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Jordan, Robert ( rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan )
 
From [email protected] Fri Nov  5 22:08:48 1993
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                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

This is a formal Request for Discussion for the creation of a new
newsgroup under the rec.* hierarchy. This RFD is being cross posted
to rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.books, rec.arts.sf.announce,
rec.arts.sf.misc, and news.announce.newgroups.  Discussion of this
RFD is to take place in news.groups.

NAME:   rec.arts.books.robert-jordan

STATUS: Unmoderated

One line description for the List of Active Newsgroups:

rec.arts.books.robert-jordan - Discussion of SF writer Robert Jordan

RATIONALE:

For the last several months, a significant proportion of the traffic
in rec.arts.sf.written has been concerned with various discussions
relating to the works of Robert Jordan.  The large amount and consistency
of the Robert Jordan discussions would tend to indicate that there is
a need for a group specifically related to the author's works.

The proposed placement of the group is in the rec.art.books hierarachy,
which juxtaposes it with rec.arts.books.tolkien, the group that is
dedicated to the discussion of the works of the fantasy writer J.R.R.
Tolkien.

PROPOSED CHARTER:

rec.arts.sf.jordan is a forum for the discussion of all issues relating
to the works of the SF author Robert Jordan.  Discussions of other
authors and works should be limited to how they relate to the works
of Robert Jordan.

TOPICS OF DISCUSSION:

The placement of the group:

As mentioned, the placement of the group has precedent, as the tolkien
group is also below rec.arts.books on the hierarchy.  However, the group
could also be placed in the rec.arts.sf.* hierarchy, or even directly
below rec.arts.sf.written.  Interested parties should discuss the best
place for the group to reside (rec.arts.books.robert-jordan, 
rec.arts.sf.robert-jordan, rec.arts.sf.written.rober-jordan, or other).

The name of the group:

An alternate name for the group might be rec.arts.books.jordan; which
is preferred?

PROCESS:

The normal  group creation guidelines will be followed.  Discussion will
continue for 30 days from this posting, and after that, a Call for Votes
(CFV) will be posted if appropriate.

From [email protected] Thu Jun  9 18:05:17 1994
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From: [email protected] (Bill Garrett)
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Subject: RFD: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan
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			REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

		Group Name:  rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan
		    Status:  unmoderated
	      Distribution:  world-wide
		   Summary:  books by contemporary author Robert Jordan
	       Proposed by:  Bill Garrett ([email protected])

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of an
unmoderated newsgroup, rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan.


CHARTER

rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan will be an unmoderated newsgroup for
the general discussion of books written by contemporary author Robert
Jordan (actually a pseudonym for James Rigney).  In particular, this
newsgroup will be concerned with his ongoing "Wheel of Time" series,
but will also cover past and future works by him.


BACKGROUND

Robert Jordan's books have been discussed daily on rec.arts.sf.written
for more than two years, and the traffic due to these discussions has
been quite substantial at times.  I have measured traffic for the
period of 5/1/94 - 5/31/94 and counted a weekly average of 1027
articles on rec.arts.sf.written received at my site, of which an
average 212 per week have directly concerned Robert Jordan's series,
and 20 per week (average) concerned various discussions and flamewars
related to moving the Robert Jordan traffic elsewhere.

I can personally vouch (but without hard numbers) that traffic has at
times been much higher than this.  I estimate that it exceeded two
thirds of a 150+ message/day stream for several months last fall,
following the release of Robert Jordan's latest book.


RATIONALE

Even 200 messages per week (a low- to average level of Robert Jordan
traffic I've observed over the past ten months) is clearly substantial
enough to warrant a separate newsgroup.  The resulting decrease in
rec.arts.sf.written traffic will also be a boon to all who read the
group; many have voiced concerns that traffic is too high and that
much of the Robert Jordan discussion is fairly particular to the
books, and thus (arguably) not entirely appropriate to
rec.arts.sf.written.

Prior to launching this RFD, I conducted a straw poll in the group
rec.arts.sf.written, asking who would support the creation of the
proposed group, and who would oppose it.  Of the 141 votes I received,
125 said they'd support it and 16 said they'd oppose it.  Adequate
support exists to make this RFD and (later) CFV viable.

Indeed, the Robert Jordan fans on r.a.sf.w have practically formed
their own subgroup already.  For more than a year they have maintained
their own Robert Jordan FAQ, which includes contributions from over
100 people.  Mailing lists have been formed on Internet, AOL, and
other networks.

One concern that will inevitably be raised with this proposal is that
this group deals with a single author.  Specifically, the concerns are
short- and long-term sustainability: will there be enough traffic to
warrant the group; and will this traffic last, or is it just a fad?
I've already shown (and any r.a.sf.w reader can attest) that there is
sufficent traffic today to warrant a separate newsgroup, and there has
been for almost two years.  The series of books currently discussed
will not be finished for at least another two years (based on word
>from the author and his publisher), and discussion will certainly not
stop with the release of the final book in the series.  Robert Jordan
will continue writing after that -- and here I paraphrase his words --
"until they nail his coffin shut."


NAMING

Above, I proposed the group as rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan.
This name indicates that the Robert Jordan discussion concerns written
speculative fiction, and shows that the .r-j group is formed partly as
a relief valve for an overburdened r.a.sf.w group.

Others (myself included) have suggested rec.arts.books.robert-jordan.
This might be a better choice because Robert Jordan's writing is not
(and will not be) limited to speculative fiction.  RJ has published
westerns, international intrigue, and historical fiction, as well as
literary reviews and criticism.  A r.a.b.r-j group would avoid adding
another five-level group in rec.arts.sf and would fit in alongside
rec.arts.books.tolkien.

Many have suggested shortening the name to *.jordan instead of
*.robert-jordan.  We think the longer name is necessary to distinguish
the group from other possible meanings of "jordan", such as American
sports star Michael Jordan and the Middle-East country of Jordan.
Note that the subname robert-jordan conforms to Usenet name length
standards.


DISCUSSION

This RFD is being crossposted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
and rec.arts.sf.written.  Followups should be directed to news.groups.
The name for this group (suggestions outlined above) is one thing I'd
like to see addressed in this Discussion.


FOOTNOTE

Many people have provided suggestions incorporated into this article.
My thanks to all of you; you know who you are.  This RFD has been
written in accordance with the Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation
and has been brought to you by the letter Q.
-- 
Bill Garrett   -   [email protected]   -   UNC Chapel Hill Computer Science
	"I've never really hated a cause or an idea until I've been
		forced to endure its fanatical followers."

From [email protected] Fri Jun 24 14:29:15 1994
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From: [email protected] (Stephen Graham)
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Subject: Re: STRAW POLL RESULTS: Name of Robert Jordan Newsgroup
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert G. Hofmann) writes:
>   I missed the straw poll due to the lag between school ending and
>work beginning, but I have a suggestion that noone has made.  How about:
>
>rec.arts.fantasy.robert-jordan
>or
>rec.books.fantasy.robert-jordan
>
>While many books are not strictly fantasy or sf, I think this 
>qualifies as strictly fantasy.

No.

Longer, more polite explanation: the sf in rec.arts.sf.written stands
for Speculative Fiction. SF includes both science fiction and fantasy.
Yes, we realize that this isn't as clear as it might be. When the groups
were formed, no-one could think of a better abbreviation.

The fantasy-science fiction split is a long-standing topic in the
hierarchy. No two people are able to agree on where the split occurs.
There are a number of well-known books and series that straddle whatever
line you might pick. Consensus in r.a.sf.* is that no such split is
possible without massive problems.
-- 
Stephen Graham
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[email protected]	 uw-beaver!june!graham

From [email protected] Wed Jun 29 16:04:01 1994
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From: [email protected] (Brennan T. Price)
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Subject: CFV: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
          unmoderated group rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan

Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan	Books by author Robert Jordan.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC 20 Jul 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact the votetaker, Brennan T. Price,
at [email protected] prism.gatech.edu For questions about the
proposed groups, contact Bill Garrett <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan is for the discussion of books by
contemporary author Robert Jordan (actually a pseudonym for James
Oliver Rigney, Jr).  In particular, this newsgroup will be concerned
with his ongoing "Wheel of Time" series, but will also cover past
and future works by him.

BACKGROUND & RATIONALE 

Robert Jordan's books have been discussed daily on rec.arts.sf.written
for more than two years, and the traffic due to these discussions has
been quite substantial at times.  The author of this CFV has measured
sustained traffic of 1000 articles/month relating directly to Robert
Jordan, with gusts as high as 2000 articles/month immediately
following the release of a new book.  The resulting decrease in
rec.arts.sf.written traffic will also be a boon to all who read the
group.  Many have voiced concerns that the discussion is fairly
particular to the books and thus (arguably) not entirely appropriate
to rec.arts.sf.written, which is supposed to be for the general
discussion and comparison of any and all speculative fiction authors.


HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.

Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.

Then mail the ballot to: [email protected]    
Just Replying to this message should work.

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rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Ballot    <RASFWRJ-0001> (Don't remove this)

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[Your Vote]  Group
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Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

--Brennan T. Price, UVV
  Running UseVote 3.0

From [email protected] Tue Jul 12 15:08:19 1994
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From: [email protected] (Brennan T. Price)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
          unmoderated group rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan

Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan       Books by author Robert Jordan.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC 20 Jul 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact the votetaker, Brennan T. Price,
at [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed groups, contact Bill Garrett <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan is for the discussion of books by
contemporary author Robert Jordan (actually a pseudonym for James
Oliver Rigney, Jr).  In particular, this newsgroup will be concerned
with his ongoing "Wheel of Time" series, but will also cover past
and future works by him.

BACKGROUND & RATIONALE 

Robert Jordan's books have been discussed daily on rec.arts.sf.written
for more than two years, and the traffic due to these discussions has
been quite substantial at times.  The author of this CFV has measured
sustained traffic of 1000 articles/month relating directly to Robert
Jordan, with gusts as high as 2000 articles/month immediately
following the release of a new book.  The resulting decrease in
rec.arts.sf.written traffic will also be a boon to all who read the
group.  Many have voiced concerns that the discussion is fairly
particular to the books and thus (arguably) not entirely appropriate
to rec.arts.sf.written, which is supposed to be for the general
discussion and comparison of any and all speculative fiction authors.


HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.

Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.

Then mail the ballot to: [email protected]    
Just Replying to this message should work.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Ballot    <RASFWRJ-0002> (Don't remove this)

Give your real name here:
If you do not give your real name your vote will be rejected.

[Your Vote]  Group
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[         ]  rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan
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Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.


rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Bounce List - No need to revote
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[email protected]                                             Johan Blixt
[email protected]                                              Brian Simper
[email protected]                                       Ann M Mair
[email protected]                                              Drazen Kacar
[email protected]                                                     Henri Socha
[email protected]                                             Orit Shacham
[email protected]                                         Graham Pooler

The above list is current as of 04:00:00 UTC 10 Jul 1994.  If you voted 
before this time, you should either have received an acknowledgement by
mail or be listed above.  Otherwise, you will need to vote again.

--Brennan T. Price, UVV
  Running UseVote 3.0

From [email protected] Thu Jul 21 18:26:07 1994
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From: [email protected] (Brennan T. Price)
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Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan passes 406:71
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                                RESULT
      unmoderated group rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan passes 406:71

There were 406 YES votes and 71 NO votes, for a total of 477 valid votes. 
There were 2 abstains and 11 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.  There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 
Both these criteria have been met.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan	Books by author Robert Jordan.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC 20 Jul 1994.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact the votetaker, Brennan T. Price,
at [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed groups, contact Bill Garrett <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan is for the discussion of books by
contemporary author Robert Jordan (actually a pseudonym for James
Oliver Rigney, Jr).  In particular, this newsgroup will be concerned
with his ongoing "Wheel of Time" series, but will also cover past
and future works by him.

BACKGROUND & RATIONALE 

Robert Jordan's books have been discussed daily on rec.arts.sf.written
for more than two years, and the traffic due to these discussions has
been quite substantial at times.  The author of this CFV has measured
sustained traffic of 1000 articles/month relating directly to Robert
Jordan, with gusts as high as 2000 articles/month immediately
following the release of a new book.  The resulting decrease in
rec.arts.sf.written traffic will also be a boon to all who read the
group.  Many have voiced concerns that the discussion is fairly
particular to the books and thus (arguably) not entirely appropriate
to rec.arts.sf.written, which is supposed to be for the general
discussion and comparison of any and all speculative fiction authors.


rec.arts.sf.written.robert-jordan Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                        Helen Trillian Rose
[email protected]                                                      Henry W. Troup
[email protected]                                       Corinne Aragaki
[email protected]                                    Damon T. Silver
[email protected]                                          Kimberly Cooper
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[email protected]                                  Peter Jakobi
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[email protected]                                      Jeff Baugher
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[email protected]                                       James Chokey
[email protected]                                           Joe Morris
[email protected]                                     J.H.M.Dassen
[email protected]                                                 J.D. Falk
[email protected]                                                    Jean Goodrich
Jeff=Rupley%PC=SW%[email protected]                      Jeff Rupley
[email protected]                                               Jeffrey K. Seidel
[email protected]                                                 Jeff Tang
[email protected]                                      Jens Alfke
[email protected]                                    Jeremy Smith
[email protected]                                        Jerome A. Gansman
[email protected]                                    James J. Farrell
[email protected]                                          Joseph Fortt
[email protected]                                             John Fritz
[email protected]                                            Jeremy H. Pace
[email protected]                                                 Jim Mann
[email protected]                                            Joel McAllister
[email protected]                                               Jose M. daLuz
[email protected]                                               J.M. Wilkins
[email protected]                            Jocelyn Elana Goldfein
[email protected]                                           Joseph Shaw
[email protected]                              John R. R. Leavitt
[email protected]                                               John Hall
[email protected]                                       John Gersh
[email protected]                                      Robert Wayne Jones
[email protected]                                        Sudish Joseph
[email protected]                                     John S. Novak, III
[email protected]                                Julie A. McCalpin
[email protected]                                            James W Walden
[email protected]                                                  John Wenn
[email protected]                                                 Kirk Davies
[email protected]                                       Monika Best
[email protected]                                       David Kaufman
[email protected]                                                 Kyle Dippery
[email protected]                                                   Keith Lim
[email protected]                                                   Clint Perry
[email protected]                                              Kent Worsnop
[email protected]                                                Sam Kerr
[email protected]                                      Kevin McDonnell
[email protected]                                        Kevin Valentine
[email protected]                                                       David Knott
[email protected]                                                Garry Knox
[email protected]                                            Galen R. Koch
[email protected]                                          Pamela Korda
[email protected]                                        Kevin Lauderdale
[email protected]                                                Vicki Laidler
[email protected]                                       Laura Johnson
[email protected]                                             Lisa Deguchi
[email protected]                                               Lee Derbenwick
[email protected]                                             Linda Kelley
[email protected]                                    Linda Hasley
[email protected]                                          Larry J Lennhoff
[email protected]                                               Laurie Gerholz
[email protected]                                   Lloyd Lettis
[email protected]                                         Lloyd Wiebe
[email protected]                                              Jim Loats
[email protected]                                            LeeAnn Rucker
[email protected]                                                            Bill Lye
[email protected]                              Michael Chisnall
[email protected]                              Michael John Jennings
[email protected]                                      Johanna Walton
[email protected]                                                Michael Allen
[email protected]                                           Randy P. Mann
[email protected]                                       Marcy Thompson
[email protected]                        Martti Niilo Tapani Halminen
[email protected]                                    Mark R. Bartlett
[email protected]                                               Mark Reece
[email protected]                                       Mark Looi
[email protected]                                           Mark Gonzales
[email protected]                                        Michael Arnett
[email protected]                           Martin Eckl
[email protected]                                         Martin K. Jones
[email protected]                                          Massimo Fasciano
[email protected]                                            Michael Mattoni
[email protected]                                                   Matt Ward
[email protected]                                       Lynn Bormann
[email protected]                                         Michael Best
[email protected]                                                      Mike Brown
[email protected]                                    Mark C. Chu-Carroll
[email protected]                              John D. McCalpin
[email protected]                                            Alayne McGregor
[email protected]                                            Michael David Oltz
[email protected]                                          Rose Adams
[email protected]                            Michel Forget
[email protected]                                           Markus Freericks
[email protected]                                      Michel Henon
[email protected]                                  Michiel van Minnen
[email protected]                                             Mick Partis
[email protected]                                              Mike Scott
[email protected]                                                      Mike Giroux
[email protected]                                Michael W. Timmermann
[email protected]                                          Marshall Wang
[email protected]                                           Martin Koehling
[email protected]                                Mary K. Kuhner
[email protected]                                               Mary Lauer
[email protected]                                             Mike Loux
[email protected]                                     Michael D. Martin
[email protected]                                                    Magnus Olsson
[email protected]                                             Michael Thompson
[email protected]                                 Susan Mozzicato
[email protected]                                          Murray C Park
[email protected]                                 Michael Richard
[email protected]                                  Martin Spellman
[email protected]                                         Michael D. Steeves
[email protected]                                                Del Cotter
[email protected]                                           Mark Tracy
[email protected]                           Klaus Mueller
[email protected]                                            Leslie L. Muldoon
[email protected]                                                 Mark Zenier
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[email protected]                                             Nan Ellman
[email protected]                                       Nancy Lynn Hayes
[email protected]                                               Charles E. Bush
[email protected]                                   Peter Donald
[email protected]                                           Sergei Nickolaev
[email protected]                                 Nicholas Fitzpatrick
[email protected]                                Nathan D. Johnson
[email protected]                                     Norma Secord
[email protected]                                           Neal Smith
[email protected]                                 Michael van Acken
[email protected]                                      Oscar Cwajbaum
[email protected]                                                Chad R Orzel
[email protected]                                                   Olaf Weber
[email protected]                                           Oliver Dunbar
[email protected]                                             Orit Shacham
[email protected]                                               Orjan Ljungqvist
[email protected]                                              Jessica Litman
[email protected]                                           Mary Ellen Curtin
[email protected]                                               Daniel Packman
[email protected]                                           John J. Palmer
[email protected]                           Gregg Parmentier
[email protected]                                             Pat McMurray
[email protected]                                           Paul Olav Tvete
[email protected]                                        Paul Jennings
[email protected]                                         Paul McGuire
[email protected]                                          Paul Andrew King
[email protected]                                           Phil Blower
[email protected]                                 Robert B. Schmunk
[email protected]                                           Peter Westlake
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[email protected]                                        Phil Isherwood
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[email protected]                                           Joel Polowin
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[email protected]                                           Pratik Dave
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[email protected]                                   Rameshwar Achaibar
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[email protected]                                          Dipanjan Ray
[email protected]                                     Rebecca Crowley
[email protected]                                              Ron Dippold
[email protected]                                   Jim Gallagher
[email protected]                                          Bill Reiss
[email protected]                                          Rob Elliott
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[email protected]                            Robert G. Hofmann III
[email protected]                                                Richard Miller
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[email protected]                                             Gregory L. Ries
[email protected]                                       Riku Saikkonen
[email protected]                                 Robert Philip Montgomery
[email protected]                                             Ollivier Robert
[email protected]                                         Rodney Schuler
[email protected]                                               Rod Shelton
[email protected]                                            Rodney Price
[email protected]                                    Roger Williams
[email protected]                                       Ruben Krasnopolsky
[email protected]                                           Jeffrey Rufinus
[email protected]                             Russell Schulz
[email protected]                                               Russell Gold
[email protected]                                    J"urgen Weinelt
[email protected]                                             Sven Venema
[email protected]                                          Arun Sannuti
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[email protected]                                        Scott Seibel
[email protected]                                         Scott Carpenter
[email protected]                                                Sean Eric Fagan
[email protected]                                            Vernon R. Siler II
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[email protected]                                    Simon H Le G Bisson
[email protected]                                             Stephen Drew
[email protected]                                        Stephen Joseph Smith
[email protected]                                 Samir Kayande
[email protected]                                                 Scott McGuire
[email protected]                                            Sean M McCarron
[email protected]                                   Steve Smoot
[email protected]                                                Scott Norton
[email protected]                                                 Scott McMillan
[email protected]                                      Alex Ransom Fuller
[email protected]                               Christopher Spring
[email protected]                                       Sandi Rollins
[email protected]                                 Stacie A. Traill
[email protected]                                     Clint Hepner
[email protected]                                        Steinn Sigurdsson
[email protected]                                         Stephanie Mason
[email protected]                              Stephen Worthington
[email protected]                                         Stephen Hardy
[email protected]                                           Ned T. Stetson
[email protected]                                              Shaun Travers
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[email protected]                                    Giles Sutcliffe
[email protected]                          Sylvain Chamberland
[email protected]                                            Toni Taia
[email protected]                                                  Talion Nelson
[email protected]                                                Timothy Clarke
[email protected]                                                Ted Ko
[email protected]                                    Tim Isakson
[email protected]                                       Thomas Reid Scudder
[email protected]                                               Tony Zbaraschuk
[email protected]                                    Leopold Travis
[email protected]                                        Richard Treitel
[email protected]                                                 Bret Jolly
[email protected]                                              Troyce Wilson
[email protected]                                       Thor Shenkel
[email protected]                                          Thomas Wilbur
[email protected]                                              Ulrich Grepel
[email protected]                                    John B. Unipan
[email protected]                                                 Ari D Jordon
[email protected]                                Jaimie Vandenbergh
[email protected]                                          Vincent Kargatis
[email protected]                                       Viren R. Shah
[email protected]                                N. Vivienne Shen
[email protected]                                             David Wagner
[email protected]                                  Matthew P Wiener
[email protected]                                                   Amy Weiner
[email protected]                                           James C. Ellis
[email protected]                                                    Will Baird
[email protected]                                              Mikko Hdnninen
[email protected]                                    Ornoth Liscomb
[email protected]                                             Jeff Strain
[email protected]                                               Yair Friedman
[email protected]                                         Jan Yarnot
[email protected]                                       Abigail Ann Young
[email protected]                                    Yvonne Y. Yang
[email protected]                                                Chris Hammock
[email protected]                                     Bob Dalgleish
[email protected]                                        Zia-ur Rahman

Voted No
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[email protected]                                         Abhay Ghaisas
[email protected]                                                  Adam Bryant
[email protected]                                          Anita Kilgour
[email protected]                                          Iain Bowen 
[email protected]                                            Andrew Plotkin
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                               Brad Spachman
[email protected]                                             Tim J.Benham
[email protected]                                           Arthur Blair
[email protected]                                             Johan Blixt
[email protected]                                                  Bob Weissman
[email protected]                                         Patrick G. Bridges
[email protected]                                                    Bill Weber
[email protected]                                          Christian Claiborn
[email protected]                                         Chris Marble
[email protected]                             Kenneth P. Crouch
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                 David Conner
[email protected]                                       Kregg Brooks
[email protected]                                        Eric Dittman
[email protected]                                                      Ed Taychert
[email protected]                                        Scot Hughes
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                              Gabe Helou
[email protected]                                             Geoff Bronner
[email protected]                                                 Gregory G. Woodbury
[email protected]                                               Margaret Gibbs
[email protected]                                           Gary Huckabay
[email protected]                             Stephen A. Graham
[email protected]                                         David Iain Greig
[email protected]                                        Geoffrey Newman
[email protected]                                                   Scott hagie
[email protected]                                                Steve Hollasch
[email protected]                                           Jerry Cullingford
[email protected]                                                 John Hawkinson
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                              Kari E. Hurtta
[email protected]                                                        Ken Kofman
[email protected]                                               Kevin M. Adams
[email protected]                                              Kenneth Herron
[email protected]                                 Justine Kingsbury
[email protected]                                       Kjetil Torgrim Homme
[email protected]                                               Taki Kogoma
[email protected]                                                 Larry Reeves
[email protected]                                                    Joel B. Levin
[email protected]                                    Deb Martinson
[email protected]                                    Michael DeLong
[email protected]                                      Matthew Austern
[email protected]                                                     James Driscoll
[email protected]                         Ethan A Merritt
[email protected]                                              Mike Lemons
[email protected]                                            Windsor Morgan
[email protected]                                              Greg Morrow
[email protected]                                        Mike Eisler
[email protected]                                               Neil Bowers
[email protected]                                       Nicholas Breen
[email protected]                                     Nils Nieuwejaar
[email protected]                                            Peter Berger
[email protected]                                                 Phil Burg
[email protected]                                        Philip Lafornara
[email protected]                                       Stanislaw Jenkowski
[email protected]                                  Ron Meleshko
[email protected]                                      Russell Wallace
[email protected]                                              Steve Sheldon
[email protected]                                                   Larry Shields
[email protected]                                              Sean Irvine
[email protected]                                       Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                          Jack Webb
[email protected]                                           Tom Jaskiewicz
[email protected]                                           Tim Pierce

Abstained
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[email protected]                                                 Maxime Taksar
[email protected]                                              Andrew Solovay


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[email protected]                               Sharon L. Breeggemann
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[email protected]                                                     Rob Furr
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[email protected]                          Robert W. Tremaine
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                    Dorothy J Heydt
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[email protected]                                    David Etherton
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[email protected]                                           Joe Stroop
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                       Joseph Of Aramethia
   ! No real name given
[email protected]                                                Kristin Ruhle
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                 Scott Matthew Talafuse
   ! No ballot

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