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Vegetarians ( rec.food.veg )
 
From [email protected] Wed Feb 17 10:46:01 1999
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jody Hartwig <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.food.cooking,rec.food.veg
Subject: RFD: rec.food.cooking.vegetables moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: rec.food.cooking.vegetables
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:42:27 GMT
Lines: 141
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10882 news.groups:305701 rec.food.cooking:477274 rec.food.veg:109123

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
             moderated group rec.food.cooking.vegetables

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
moderated Usenet newsgroup rec.food.cooking.vegetables.  This is not a
Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.  Procedural
details are below.

Proposed newsgroup: rec.food.cooking.vegetables, a moderated
information forum for discussing topics related to the preparation and
eating of vegetables such as:

        - cooking techniques
        - recipes
        - history
        - folklore
        - source recommendations
        - effects on health

Newsgroups line:
rec.food.cooking.vegetables	Preparation and eating of vegetables. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

The amount of vegetables prepared and eaten daily is staggering. For
instance, approximately $2 billion dollars worth of frozen vegetables
are consumed in the United States annually (Source: Information
Resources Inc., 1998).

The large volume of postings in rec.food.cooking -- often times
exceeding 200 messages per day -- suggests a split might be
appropriate. A search of recent postings to rec.food.cooking using
DejaNews on February 13, 1999 using the word "vegetable" and several
other common vegetable names (carrot, corn, bean, potato, etc.),
showed that approximately 20% of the postings were vegetable
related. It can therefore be concluded that there is a large enough
audience in rec.food.cooking alone to justify the creation of
rec.food.cooking.vegetables (not including those posts to rec.food.veg
and rec.food.veg.cooking).

Also, a significant amount of discussion goes on in the vegetarian
newsgroups rec.food.veg and rec.food.veg.cooking. The proposed
moderated newsgroup would serve as a central location for both
vegetarians and non-vegetarians to discuss vegetables and their
preparation, creating a more informative, well-rounded list of
postings of benefit to all vegetable lovers.

CHARTER: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Articles suitable for posting to rec.food.cooking.vegetables are those
pertaining to any topic related to the preparation and eating of
vegetables.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):
  * Cooking techniques
  * Recipes
  * History
  * Folklore
  * Source recommendations
  * Effects on health

Inappropriate posts would include:
  * Advertising. This newsgroup allows those knowledgable about the
    cooking of vegetables to help those who share questions, comments,
    or concerns with the group. This is NOT a forum for blatant
    advertising and commercial interests and such posts will NOT be
    welcome. If you have a product or service to sell, please post
    your message in other, more appropriate locations, such as
    rec.food.marketplace.
  * Inappropriate behavior. Inappropriate posts, spamming,
    advertisement, foul language, or innuendos that are disrespectful
    of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

The moderators will abide by the following policies:
  * The moderators will be unbiased in their approval and rejection of
    postings.
  * The moderators will work to ensure that the quality of discussions
    are kept high and free of unsolicited advertising
  * The moderators will reject articles that do not conform to this
charter.

Gateway:

This newsgroup will have a gateway to a dedicated mailing list so that
people who do not have access to Usenet newsgroups will be able to
read and post messages to the newsgroup via e-mail.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Moderator: Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>
Moderator: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>

  * Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>, an avid cook and mother
    of two. Jody has coordinated the creation and marketing of two
    holiday cookbooks for retail sale.
  * Laura Gordon <[email protected]>, is an Associate Marketing
    Manager at Agrilink Foods Vegetable Company.

In order to provide the newsgroup subscribers with a variety of
viewpoints and to spread out the workload, we would like to solicit
help with moderating. If you would be willing to help moderate on a
semi-regular basis, please email me at [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
  rec.food.cooking, rec.food.veg, rec.food.veg.cooking

and the following mailing list:

  veggie-list (pertains primarily to vegetable gardening)
  Subcribe via: [email protected]

Proponent: Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>
Proponent: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Wed Feb 17 10:52:50 1999
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jody Hartwig <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.food.cooking,rec.food.veg
Subject: RFD: rec.food.cooking.vegetables moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: rec.food.cooking.vegetables
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:42:27 GMT
Lines: 141
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10882 news.groups:305701 rec.food.cooking:477274 rec.food.veg:109123

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
             moderated group rec.food.cooking.vegetables

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
moderated Usenet newsgroup rec.food.cooking.vegetables.  This is not a
Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.  Procedural
details are below.

Proposed newsgroup: rec.food.cooking.vegetables, a moderated
information forum for discussing topics related to the preparation and
eating of vegetables such as:

        - cooking techniques
        - recipes
        - history
        - folklore
        - source recommendations
        - effects on health

Newsgroups line:
rec.food.cooking.vegetables	Preparation and eating of vegetables. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

The amount of vegetables prepared and eaten daily is staggering. For
instance, approximately $2 billion dollars worth of frozen vegetables
are consumed in the United States annually (Source: Information
Resources Inc., 1998).

The large volume of postings in rec.food.cooking -- often times
exceeding 200 messages per day -- suggests a split might be
appropriate. A search of recent postings to rec.food.cooking using
DejaNews on February 13, 1999 using the word "vegetable" and several
other common vegetable names (carrot, corn, bean, potato, etc.),
showed that approximately 20% of the postings were vegetable
related. It can therefore be concluded that there is a large enough
audience in rec.food.cooking alone to justify the creation of
rec.food.cooking.vegetables (not including those posts to rec.food.veg
and rec.food.veg.cooking).

Also, a significant amount of discussion goes on in the vegetarian
newsgroups rec.food.veg and rec.food.veg.cooking. The proposed
moderated newsgroup would serve as a central location for both
vegetarians and non-vegetarians to discuss vegetables and their
preparation, creating a more informative, well-rounded list of
postings of benefit to all vegetable lovers.

CHARTER: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Articles suitable for posting to rec.food.cooking.vegetables are those
pertaining to any topic related to the preparation and eating of
vegetables.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):
  * Cooking techniques
  * Recipes
  * History
  * Folklore
  * Source recommendations
  * Effects on health

Inappropriate posts would include:
  * Advertising. This newsgroup allows those knowledgable about the
    cooking of vegetables to help those who share questions, comments,
    or concerns with the group. This is NOT a forum for blatant
    advertising and commercial interests and such posts will NOT be
    welcome. If you have a product or service to sell, please post
    your message in other, more appropriate locations, such as
    rec.food.marketplace.
  * Inappropriate behavior. Inappropriate posts, spamming,
    advertisement, foul language, or innuendos that are disrespectful
    of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

The moderators will abide by the following policies:
  * The moderators will be unbiased in their approval and rejection of
    postings.
  * The moderators will work to ensure that the quality of discussions
    are kept high and free of unsolicited advertising
  * The moderators will reject articles that do not conform to this
charter.

Gateway:

This newsgroup will have a gateway to a dedicated mailing list so that
people who do not have access to Usenet newsgroups will be able to
read and post messages to the newsgroup via e-mail.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Moderator: Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>
Moderator: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>

  * Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>, an avid cook and mother
    of two. Jody has coordinated the creation and marketing of two
    holiday cookbooks for retail sale.
  * Laura Gordon <[email protected]>, is an Associate Marketing
    Manager at Agrilink Foods Vegetable Company.

In order to provide the newsgroup subscribers with a variety of
viewpoints and to spread out the workload, we would like to solicit
help with moderating. If you would be willing to help moderate on a
semi-regular basis, please email me at [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
  rec.food.cooking, rec.food.veg, rec.food.veg.cooking

and the following mailing list:

  veggie-list (pertains primarily to vegetable gardening)
  Subcribe via: [email protected]

Proponent: Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>
Proponent: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Wed Mar 31 21:30:32 1999
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jim Davis <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.food.cooking,rec.food.veg
Subject: CFV: rec.food.cooking.vegetables moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (counting votes so you don't have to)
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 23 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.food.cooking.vegetables
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 05:20:42 GMT
Lines: 146
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10969 news.groups:310924 rec.food.cooking:493024 rec.food.veg:110370

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
             moderated group rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Newsgroups line:
rec.food.cooking.vegetables	Preparation and eating of vegetables. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Apr 1999.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponents.

Proponent: Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>
Proponent: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

The amount of vegetables prepared and eaten daily is staggering. For
instance, approximately $2 billion dollars worth of frozen vegetables
are consumed in the United States annually (Source: Information
Resources Inc., 1998).

The large volume of postings in rec.food.cooking -- often times exceeding
200 messages per day -- suggests a split might be appropriate. A search
of recent postings to rec.food.cooking using DejaNews on February 13, 1999
using the word "vegetable" and several other common vegetable names
(carrot, corn, bean, potato, etc.), showed that approximately 20% of the
postings were vegetable related. It can therefore be concluded that there is
a large enough audience in rec.food.cooking alone to justify the creation
of rec.food.cooking.vegetables (not including those posts to rec.food.veg
and rec.food.veg.cooking).

Also, a significant amount of discussion goes on in the vegetarian
newsgroups rec.food.veg and rec.food.veg.cooking. The proposed moderated
newsgroup would serve as a central location for both vegetarians and
non-vegetarians to discuss vegetables and their preparation, creating a
more informative, well-rounded list of postings of benefit to all
vegetable lovers.

CHARTER: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Articles suitable for posting to rec.food.cooking.vegetables are those
pertaining to any topic related to the preparation and eating of vegetables.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):
  * Cooking techniques
  * Recipes
  * History
  * Folklore
  * Source recommendations
  * Effects on health

Inappropriate posts would include:
  * Advertising. This newsgroup allows those knowledgable about the
    cooking of vegetables to help those who share questions, comments,
    or concerns with the group. This is NOT a forum for blatant advertising
    and commercial interests and such posts will NOT be welcome. If you
    have a product or service to sell, please post your message in other,
    more appropriate locations, such as rec.food.marketplace.
  * Inappropriate behavior. Inappropriate posts, spamming,
    advertisement, foul language, or innuendos that are disrespectful
    of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

The moderators will abide by the following policies:
  * The moderators will be unbiased in their approval and rejection of
    postings.
  * The moderators will work to ensure that the quality of discussions
    are kept high and free of unsolicited advertising
  * The moderators will reject articles that do not conform to this charter.

Gateway:

This newsgroup will have a gateway to a dedicated mailing list
so that people who do not have access to Usenet newsgroups will be
able to read and post messages to the newsgroup via e-mail.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Moderator: "Jody K. Hartwig" <[email protected]>
Moderator: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and
after the "-=-=-=-" lines.  Don't worry about the spacing of the
columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  And
please don't send the entire CFV back!

Mark the ballot and then mail it to: [email protected]

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

[ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
[ NO      ]  example.no.vote
[ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
[ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
rec.food.cooking.vegetables Ballot    <VxK-01> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

  Your Vote  Newsgroup
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[         ]  rec.food.cooking.vegetables
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IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One vote per person, one account
per voter.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Jun 10 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980322

-- 
Jim Davis        | "Plaaay NICE!!"
[email protected] |   -- Bubbles

From [email protected] Sun Apr 11 11:29:41 1999
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jim Davis <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.food.cooking,rec.food.veg
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.food.cooking.vegetables moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (counting votes so you don't have to)
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 23 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.food.cooking.vegetables
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:26:12 GMT
Lines: 153
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10987 news.groups:311873 rec.food.cooking:497195 rec.food.veg:110745

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
             moderated group rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Newsgroups line:
rec.food.cooking.vegetables	Preparation and eating of vegetables. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Apr 1999.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponents.

Proponent: Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>
Proponent: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

The amount of vegetables prepared and eaten daily is staggering. For
instance, approximately $2 billion dollars worth of frozen vegetables
are consumed in the United States annually (Source: Information
Resources Inc., 1998).

The large volume of postings in rec.food.cooking -- often times exceeding
200 messages per day -- suggests a split might be appropriate. A search
of recent postings to rec.food.cooking using DejaNews on February 13, 1999
using the word "vegetable" and several other common vegetable names
(carrot, corn, bean, potato, etc.), showed that approximately 20% of the
postings were vegetable related. It can therefore be concluded that there is
a large enough audience in rec.food.cooking alone to justify the creation
of rec.food.cooking.vegetables (not including those posts to rec.food.veg
and rec.food.veg.cooking).

Also, a significant amount of discussion goes on in the vegetarian
newsgroups rec.food.veg and rec.food.veg.cooking. The proposed moderated
newsgroup would serve as a central location for both vegetarians and
non-vegetarians to discuss vegetables and their preparation, creating a
more informative, well-rounded list of postings of benefit to all
vegetable lovers.

CHARTER: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Articles suitable for posting to rec.food.cooking.vegetables are those
pertaining to any topic related to the preparation and eating of vegetables.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):
  * Cooking techniques
  * Recipes
  * History
  * Folklore
  * Source recommendations
  * Effects on health

Inappropriate posts would include:
  * Advertising. This newsgroup allows those knowledgable about the
    cooking of vegetables to help those who share questions, comments,
    or concerns with the group. This is NOT a forum for blatant advertising
    and commercial interests and such posts will NOT be welcome. If you
    have a product or service to sell, please post your message in other,
    more appropriate locations, such as rec.food.marketplace.
  * Inappropriate behavior. Inappropriate posts, spamming,
    advertisement, foul language, or innuendos that are disrespectful
    of the other users or groups of people.

Moderation policies:

The moderators will abide by the following policies:
  * The moderators will be unbiased in their approval and rejection of
    postings.
  * The moderators will work to ensure that the quality of discussions
    are kept high and free of unsolicited advertising
  * The moderators will reject articles that do not conform to this charter.

Gateway:

This newsgroup will have a gateway to a dedicated mailing list
so that people who do not have access to Usenet newsgroups will be
able to read and post messages to the newsgroup via e-mail.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Moderator: "Jody K. Hartwig" <[email protected]>
Moderator: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and
after the "-=-=-=-" lines.  Don't worry about the spacing of the
columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  And
please don't send the entire CFV back!

Mark the ballot and then mail it to: [email protected]

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

[ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
[ NO      ]  example.no.vote
[ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
[ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
rec.food.cooking.vegetables Ballot    <VxK-02> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

  Your Vote  Newsgroup
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  rec.food.cooking.vegetables
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One vote per person, one account
per voter.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Jun 10 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980322

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Jim Davis        | "Plaaay NICE!!"
[email protected] |   -- Bubbles

From [email protected] Thu Apr 22 17:44:41 1999
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jim Davis <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.food.cooking,rec.food.veg
Subject: RESULT: rec.food.cooking.vegetables moderated fails 42:265
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (counting votes so you don't have to)
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: rec.food.cooking.vegetables
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:33:11 GMT
Lines: 431
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11006 news.groups:312522 rec.food.cooking:501450 rec.food.veg:111128

                                RESULT
       moderated group rec.food.cooking.vegetables fails 42:265

There were 42 YES votes and 265 NO votes, for a total of 307 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 1 invalid ballot.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may
not be voted on again for six months.

Newsgroups line:
rec.food.cooking.vegetables	Preparation and eating of vegetables. (Moderated)

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponents.

Proponent: Jody K. Hartwig <[email protected]>
Proponent: Laura Gordon <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

The amount of vegetables prepared and eaten daily is staggering. For
instance, approximately $2 billion dollars worth of frozen vegetables
are consumed in the United States annually (Source: Information
Resources Inc., 1998).

The large volume of postings in rec.food.cooking -- often times exceeding
200 messages per day -- suggests a split might be appropriate. A search
of recent postings to rec.food.cooking using DejaNews on February 13, 1999
using the word "vegetable" and several other common vegetable names
(carrot, corn, bean, potato, etc.), showed that approximately 20% of the
postings were vegetable related. It can therefore be concluded that there is
a large enough audience in rec.food.cooking alone to justify the creation
of rec.food.cooking.vegetables (not including those posts to rec.food.veg
and rec.food.veg.cooking).

Also, a significant amount of discussion goes on in the vegetarian
newsgroups rec.food.veg and rec.food.veg.cooking. The proposed moderated
newsgroup would serve as a central location for both vegetarians and
non-vegetarians to discuss vegetables and their preparation, creating a
more informative, well-rounded list of postings of benefit to all
vegetable lovers.

CHARTER: rec.food.cooking.vegetables

Articles suitable for posting to rec.food.cooking.vegetables are those
pertaining to any topic related to the preparation and eating of vegetables.

Expected topics of discussion include (but are not limited to):
  * Cooking techniques
  * Recipes
  * History
  * Folklore
  * Source recommendations
  * Effects on health

Inappropriate posts would include:
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Voted No
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zofran /)} zaphod.deepthot.aurora.co.us                        Cheryl L Martin

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chriseb ) nortelnetworks.com                                    Chris Ebenezer
laurie /) soucis.globalnet.co.uk                                        Laurie
merlin (=$* A470.demon.co.uk                                   Darren Wyn Rees


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