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From: Ornoth Liscomb <[email protected]>
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                         RFD FOR REC.MAG.DARGON
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This is a formal request for the removal of the existing moderated
newgroup rec.mag.fsfnet, to be replaced by an unmoderated newsgroup
called rec.mag.dargon.

              Group Name:  rec.mag.dargon
                  Status:  unmoderated
            Distribution:  worldwide
                 Summary:  DargonZine e-magazine issues and discussion
             Proposed by:  Ornoth D.A. Liscomb
                           <[email protected]>


Charter
-------
Rec.mag.dargon will be used both for the distribution of DargonZine, an
electronic magazine, and also for open public discussion of the
magazine's content.

DargonZine prints fiction produced by aspiring amateur writers who are
members of the Dargon Project, which has been active since 1985. Dargon
Project stories are all set in a shared medieval fantasy setting (a la
"Thieves' World"). "Dargon" refers to the town and surrounding lands
where most stories take place, as well as the surname of the area's
ruling family. DargonZine has worldwide distribution.


Discussion
----------
Discussion of this proposed group will take place on news.groups starting
at the time of this posting and will continue for a minimum of three
weeks from that date.


Vote
----
Assuming the discussion merits a vote, a Call For Votes will be
conducted by neutral third parties after the discussion period has
ended. No votes will be accepted prior to the start of the CFV. A
neutral third party will administer the vote.


Crossposting
------------
This RFD is crossposted to the following groups:

  news.announce.newgroups
  news.groups
  rec.mag
  rec.mag.fsfnet
  rec.arts.sf.written
  misc.writing
  [email protected]

The CFV will be crossposted to the same groups, plus the DargonZine
distribution list.


Rationale
---------
Starting with the existing newsgroup rec.mag.fsfnet, the proposal should
be thought of in two parts: removal of the existing moderation, and
renaming the newsgroup. Although there are two distinct changes taking
place, they will be voted on as a single proposal.

Rec.mag.fsfnet was originally created with the intent to serve solely as
a moderated distribution vehicle for issues. At present, the only
articles posted to the newsgroup are issues of DargonZine as they are
published. However, the Dargon Project writers would like to remove the
moderation from the newsgroup so that it can be opened up for reader
feedback and exchange of opinions and ideas between the readership and
the writers.

However, we would also like to take this opportunity to change the name
of the newsgroup. The Dargon Project first began publishing stories in
FSFnet, an electronic magazine that ran from 1984 through 1988, during
which time the newsgroup rec.msg.fsfnet was created. When FSFnet's
editor graduated and left the network, the new editor began putting out
issues under the name DargonZine. Because FSFnet has been defunct for
over five years and could be confused with the Free Software Foundation,
it is appropriate that we change the newsgroup name to something more
recognizable. Our readers would immediately associate rec.mag.dargon
with the Dargon Project and DargonZine.

However, should we ever choose to change the name of our publication
again, we propose that the new newsgroup be called rec.mag.dargon rather
than rec.mag.dargonzine. This will allow us to avoid ever having to
rename the newsgroup again, no matter what we name the publication.

Please direct all discussion to news.groups.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Oct 11 13:06:19 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: CFV: rec.mag.dargon
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                       unmoderated group rec.mag.dargon

Newsgroups line:
rec.mag.dargon          DargonZine fantasy fiction emag issues and discussion.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 1 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list <[email protected]> Dargon Project writers' group and
the DargonZine readership as a whole.  The posting will be clearly
labelled as a "repost" of a CFV in news.announce.newgroups.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Ornoth D.A. Liscomb <[email protected]>


CHARTER

Rec.mag.dargon will be used both for the distribution of DargonZine, an
electronic magazine, and also for open public discussion of the
magazine's content.

DargonZine prints fiction produced by aspiring amateur writers who are
members of the Dargon Project, which has been active since 1985. Dargon
Project stories are all set in a shared medieval fantasy setting (a la
"Thieves' World"). "Dargon" refers to the town and surrounding lands
where most stories take place, as well as the surname of the area's
ruling family. DargonZine has worldwide distribution. Email
subscriptions can be obtained from <[email protected]>.

Starting with the existing newsgroup rec.mag.fsfnet, the proposal should
be thought of in two parts: removal of the existing moderation, and
renaming the newsgroup. Although there are two distinct changes taking
place, they will be voted on as a single proposal.

Rec.mag.fsfnet was originally created with the intent to serve solely as
a moderated distribution vehicle for issues. At present, the only
articles posted to the newsgroup are issues of DargonZine as they are
published. However, the Dargon Project writers would like to remove the
moderation from the newsgroup so that it can be opened up for reader
feedback and exchange of opinions and ideas between the readership and
the writers.

However, we would also like to take this opportunity to change the name
of the newsgroup. The Dargon Project first began publishing stories in
FSFnet, an electronic magazine that ran from 1984 through 1988, during
which time the newsgroup rec.msg.fsfnet was created. When FSFnet's
editor graduated and left the network, the new editor began putting out
issues under the name DargonZine. Because FSFnet has been defunct for
over five years it is appropriate that we change the newsgroup name to
something more recognizable. Our readers would immediately associate
rec.mag.dargon with the Dargon Project and DargonZine.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on rec.mag.dargon
      I vote NO on rec.mag.dargon

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Oct 26 12:59:09 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.mag.dargon
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                       unmoderated group rec.mag.dargon

Newsgroups line:
rec.mag.dargon          DargonZine fantasy fiction emag issues and discussion.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 1 November 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list <[email protected]> Dargon Project writers' group and
the DargonZine readership as a whole.  The posting will be clearly
labelled as a "repost" of a CFV in news.announce.newgroups.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Ornoth D.A. Liscomb <[email protected]>


CHARTER

Rec.mag.dargon will be used both for the distribution of DargonZine, an
electronic magazine, and also for open public discussion of the
magazine's content.

DargonZine prints fiction produced by aspiring amateur writers who are
members of the Dargon Project, which has been active since 1985. Dargon
Project stories are all set in a shared medieval fantasy setting (a la
"Thieves' World"). "Dargon" refers to the town and surrounding lands
where most stories take place, as well as the surname of the area's
ruling family. DargonZine has worldwide distribution. Email
subscriptions can be obtained from <[email protected]>.

Starting with the existing newsgroup rec.mag.fsfnet, the proposal should
be thought of in two parts: removal of the existing moderation, and
renaming the newsgroup. Although there are two distinct changes taking
place, they will be voted on as a single proposal.

Rec.mag.fsfnet was originally created with the intent to serve solely as
a moderated distribution vehicle for issues. At present, the only
articles posted to the newsgroup are issues of DargonZine as they are
published. However, the Dargon Project writers would like to remove the
moderation from the newsgroup so that it can be opened up for reader
feedback and exchange of opinions and ideas between the readership and
the writers.

However, we would also like to take this opportunity to change the name
of the newsgroup. The Dargon Project first began publishing stories in
FSFnet, an electronic magazine that ran from 1984 through 1988, during
which time the newsgroup rec.msg.fsfnet was created. When FSFnet's
editor graduated and left the network, the new editor began putting out
issues under the name DargonZine. Because FSFnet has been defunct for
over five years it is appropriate that we change the newsgroup name to
something more recognizable. Our readers would immediately associate
rec.mag.dargon with the Dargon Project and DargonZine.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on rec.mag.dargon
      I vote NO on rec.mag.dargon

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



rec.mag.dargon Bounce List - No need to revote
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From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Nov  3 17:31:31 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.zines,rec.mag,rec.mag.fsfnet,rec.arts.sf.written,misc.writing
Subject: RESULT: rec.mag.dargon passes 156:37
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                                    RESULT
	    unmoderated group rec.mag.dargon passes 156:37

There were 156 YES votes and 37 NO votes, for a total of 193 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
rec.mag.dargon          DargonZine fantasy fiction emag issues and discussion.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Ornoth D.A. Liscomb <[email protected]>


CHARTER

Rec.mag.dargon will be used both for the distribution of DargonZine, an
electronic magazine, and also for open public discussion of the
magazine's content.

DargonZine prints fiction produced by aspiring amateur writers who are
members of the Dargon Project, which has been active since 1985. Dargon
Project stories are all set in a shared medieval fantasy setting (a la
"Thieves' World"). "Dargon" refers to the town and surrounding lands
where most stories take place, as well as the surname of the area's
ruling family. DargonZine has worldwide distribution. Email
subscriptions can be obtained from <[email protected]>.

Starting with the existing newsgroup rec.mag.fsfnet, the proposal should
be thought of in two parts: removal of the existing moderation, and
renaming the newsgroup. Although there are two distinct changes taking
place, they will be voted on as a single proposal.

Rec.mag.fsfnet was originally created with the intent to serve solely as
a moderated distribution vehicle for issues. At present, the only
articles posted to the newsgroup are issues of DargonZine as they are
published. However, the Dargon Project writers would like to remove the
moderation from the newsgroup so that it can be opened up for reader
feedback and exchange of opinions and ideas between the readership and
the writers.

However, we would also like to take this opportunity to change the name
of the newsgroup. The Dargon Project first began publishing stories in
FSFnet, an electronic magazine that ran from 1984 through 1988, during
which time the newsgroup rec.msg.fsfnet was created. When FSFnet's
editor graduated and left the network, the new editor began putting out
issues under the name DargonZine. Because FSFnet has been defunct for
over five years it is appropriate that we change the newsgroup name to
something more recognizable. Our readers would immediately associate
rec.mag.dargon with the Dargon Project and DargonZine.


rec.mag.dargon Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                       Kristy Grinder
A01DLH1%[email protected]                                          Don Hayes
[email protected]                            Arthur Bernard Byrne
ACDA156%[email protected]                                        
[email protected]                                                Amy Chused
[email protected]                                    Ex-ACSS lackey
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[email protected]                                          Anne Louise Gockel
[email protected]                                                 Alison Barrows
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[email protected]                                         Arthur King
[email protected]                                           Aviel Roy-Shapira
[email protected]                                                Arne Wichmann
[email protected]                                                    Ayse Sercan
[email protected]                                              Rebecca E. Tants
[email protected]                                           Dan Birchall
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                           Joshua D. Brinen
[email protected]                              Kimberly Bryant-Smith
[email protected]                                         Christy Phillips
[email protected]                         dionisopoulos panagiotis
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                      Charles R. Emmons
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                                  
[email protected]                                        Haklien Chua
[email protected]                                              Claudia Marie
[email protected]                                             Evolvulator
[email protected]                                                     Lew Cote
[email protected]                                              carl e snook
[email protected]                                                       
[email protected]                                                   
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[email protected]                                               David G. Kahane
[email protected]                                            The Doctor {Who?}
[email protected]                                       CMDR KREZNAK
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                          [email protected]
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                          Eddy Black
[email protected]                                                Brian Edmonds
[email protected]                                     Eric Grabowski
[email protected]                                           Peter Turner
[email protected]                                                        Jon Evans
[email protected]                                       Scott W Fischer
[email protected]                                          Shmulik Fishman
[email protected]                                              Geoff Duncan
[email protected]                                          Gordon Lloyd Goldberg
[email protected]                                                  Greg
[email protected]                                               Gerald Robillard
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                             Bill Harvey
[email protected]                                    R. Lawrence Martinez
[email protected]                                                                
[email protected]                                     Bo Holst-Christensen
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                                  Lonnie Houck
[email protected]                                            Xiphias Gladius
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                                  Ive Velez
[email protected]                                                                
[email protected]                                  Bryan J. Maloney
[email protected]                                                   
[email protected]                                                       
[email protected]                                         Jade Belaire
[email protected]                                          Ken Doucette
[email protected]                                                  Jason Dyer
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                                    
[email protected]                                               Jesse L. Morgan
[email protected]                                                               
[email protected]                                              John Olsen
[email protected]                                                   Tobin J R
[email protected]                                            Jason Snell
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                          Aspen
[email protected]                                            Kathy Liscomb
[email protected]                                         Costas Krallis
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                             Chris Mitchell
[email protected]                               Jens-Arthur Leirbakk
[email protected]                                         Lennart Sandberg
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                      Doug Lhotka
[email protected]                                  Miriam R Linver
[email protected]                                                  Lory
[email protected]                                      Michael Majere
[email protected]                                 Mark Jacoby
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                                   Max's Login
[email protected]                                              Michael Bell
[email protected]                                       Michael Johnson
[email protected]                                                  PARTIS
[email protected]                                            M. Smith
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[email protected]                                                    Matt Ronn
[email protected]                                             William Moxley
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[email protected]                             Michael Sattler, San Francisco
[email protected]                                              M.A. Murphy
[email protected]                                       Michael Sawyer
[email protected]                                           Robert Nagy
[email protected]                                         Helge Nareid
[email protected]                                   Nyani-Iisha Martin
[email protected]                                                 Nick Waterman
[email protected]                                             Nick Pine
[email protected]                                             Odd Einar Aurbakken
[email protected]                                            Ornoth Liscomb
[email protected]                                         Peter K. Campbell
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[email protected]                                 Pedro Malan D'Angrogne
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[email protected]                                         Richard Vowles
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                               Randy Money
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[email protected]                                                  Steve Fagg
[email protected]                                              The Butterfly
[email protected]                                       LOKE WOAN JINN
[email protected]                                                    Sean Colbath
[email protected]                                      Alexander Siegelin
[email protected]                                           Polymer
[email protected]                                        Stephen Joseph Smith
[email protected]                                        Thomas Bueschgens
[email protected]                                           slt128'steve-o'
[email protected]                                          Sten Drescher
[email protected]                                           Clare Grant
[email protected]                                                               
[email protected]                                            Scott Rogers
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                          Stu Labovitz
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[email protected]                                Tim Isakson
[email protected]                                               Troy Engel
[email protected]                                                 Trygve Soerdal
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[email protected]                                        Wally Garchow
[email protected]                                         Jeff Wayman
[email protected]                                          WILLIAM HELLER
WHITE%[email protected]            Avid Reader - Fledgling Writer
[email protected]                                                FeralPurr
[email protected]                                                        Will Kelly
[email protected]                                              Kevin Wilson
[email protected]                                   Kendra Lockhart
[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee

Voted No
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[email protected]                                  Vincent ARCHER
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                           Ed Bailey
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[email protected]                                                   Burt N Holzman
[email protected]                                            C. Douglas Baker
[email protected]                                     Chris Koenigsberg
[email protected]                                            Clark Quinn
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                   Peter Campbell
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                     Edward Bertsch
[email protected]                                    Ellen K. Seebacher
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                              Geoffrey H Spear
[email protected]                                      Brennan T. Price
[email protected]                             James Alexander Chokey
[email protected]                                                Jim Goddard
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[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                          Julian Macassey
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                                  Linda Hill
[email protected]                                                    Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                          Sigurd Meldal
[email protected]                                              Sean Irvine
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                            Steersy
swcxt[email protected]co.gov                                                 Shane Castle
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                          Timothy VanFosson
[email protected]                                           Tom Jaskiewicz
[email protected]                                                 David Veal
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Abstained
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[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS

 
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