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From: "bill bren" 
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Subject: RFD: sci.chem.coatings
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                 unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings

Proponents: Bill Bren 
            Mike Lazar 

Newsgroups line:
sci.chem.coatings	Paints and coatings technology.

RATIONALE: sci.chem.coatings

Currently there is no one place to handle traffic
specifically for the discussion of Paints and Coatings.  Postings
to the sci.chem group get easily lost among the 50 to 100 daily
postings.  Postings to the more manageable sci.polymers (about 10/day)
are inappropriate when the discussion involves coatings issues not
related to polymers.

CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings

A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of
paints and coatings technology.  Anyone interested will be welcome to
join in the discussion about, but not limited to:

-       Polymeric coating resins
-       Pigments
-       Coatings additives
-       Coatings solvents
-       Powder coatings
-       Professional societies and conferences
-       Application techniques for paints and coatings
-       Regulatory issues affecting coatings
-       Sales and Marketing issues
-       Manufacturing of paints
-       Packaging and transportation of coatings materials
-       Employment opportunities within the coatings industry
-       Educational and research resources
-       Surface Color

The discussion will be held in English.  FAQ's should be developed for
specific areas of interest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial
announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be
a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for users may or may not receive
a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the news group
is to assist coatings practitioners in their craft with a free flowing
discussion of current coatings technology.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This RFD has been posted in accordance with "Guidelines for Usenet Newsgroup
Creation" by Greg Woods, David C. Lawrence and Gene Spafford.

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if no serious objections are raised,
a Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued to the same groups in which this notice
appears.  The vote will be tabulated by a neutral third party, who will be
selected by the established process.  The voting period will be no less than
21 days.  A successful vote requires that at least 100 more votes are cast
for the creation than against, with an overall majority of 2/3 for creation.
If both these conditions are met the new group will be announced as soon as
practical thereafter.

FINAL WORDS:

Discussion should take place *ONLY* in news.groups.  If you do not normally
follow news.groups you should do so for the duration of this RFD.  This is
not a Call for Votes.  Please do not cast a vote now.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD will be cross posted to the following groups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
sci.chem
sci.polymers
sci.engr.lighting
sci.research
sci.engr.chem

From [email protected] Fri Nov  3 15:14:06 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Kenneth Herron 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.lighting,sci.polymers,sci.research
Subject: CFV: sci.chem.coatings
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings

Newsgroups line:
sci.chem.coatings	Paints and Coatings practitioners.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 24 Nov 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponents.

Proponent: Bill Bren 
Proponent: Mike Lazar 
Votetaker: Kenneth Herron 

RATIONALE: sci.chem.coatings

Currently there is no one place to handle traffic specifically for the
discussion of Paints and Coatings.  Postings to the sci.chem group get
easily lost among the 50 t0 100 daily postings.  Postings to the more
manageable sci.polymers (about 10/day) are inappropriate when the
discussion involves coatings issues not related to polymers.

CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings

A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of
paints and coatings technology.  Anyone intrested will be welcome to
join in the discussion about, but not limited to:

	-	Polymeric coating resins
	-	Pigments
	-	Coatings additives
	-	Coatings solvents
	-	Powder coatings
	-	Professional societies and conferences
	-	Application techniques for paints and coatings
	-	Regulatory issues effecting coatings
	-	Sales and Marketing issues
	-	Manufacturing of paints
	-	Packaging and transportation of coatings materials.
	-	Employment opportunities within the coatings industry
	-	Educational and research resources
	-	Surface Color

The discussion will be held in english.  FAQ's should be developed for
specific areas of intrest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial
announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be
a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for paint users may or may
not get a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the
news group is to assist coatings practitioners in there craft with a
free flowing discussion of current coatings technology.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE

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the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines
and do not change the group names.

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VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.


DISTRIBUTION:

This Call for votes is being posted to the following newsgroups:

	news.announce.newgroups  news.groups
	sci.chem                 sci.engr.chem
	sci.engr.lighting        sci.polymers
	sci.research

From [email protected] Mon Nov 13 13:31:43 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Kenneth Herron 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.lighting,sci.polymers,sci.research
Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.chem.coatings
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings

Newsgroups line:
sci.chem.coatings	Paints and Coatings practitioners.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 24 Nov 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponents.

Proponent: Bill Bren 
Proponent: Mike Lazar 
Votetaker: Kenneth Herron 

RATIONALE: sci.chem.coatings

Currently there is no one place to handle traffic specifically for the
discussion of Paints and Coatings.  Postings to the sci.chem group get
easily lost among the 50 t0 100 daily postings.  Postings to the more
manageable sci.polymers (about 10/day) are inappropriate when the
discussion involves coatings issues not related to polymers.

CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings

A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of
paints and coatings technology.  Anyone intrested will be welcome to
join in the discussion about, but not limited to:

	-	Polymeric coating resins
	-	Pigments
	-	Coatings additives
	-	Coatings solvents
	-	Powder coatings
	-	Professional societies and conferences
	-	Application techniques for paints and coatings
	-	Regulatory issues effecting coatings
	-	Sales and Marketing issues
	-	Manufacturing of paints
	-	Packaging and transportation of coatings materials.
	-	Employment opportunities within the coatings industry
	-	Educational and research resources
	-	Surface Color

The discussion will be held in english.  FAQ's should be developed for
specific areas of intrest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial
announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be
a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for paint users may or may
not get a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the
news group is to assist coatings practitioners in there craft with a
free flowing discussion of current coatings technology.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below
the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines
and do not change the group names.

Give your name on the line that asks for it.  For each group, place a
YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you
don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.
Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">")
that your reply inserts.

Then send via e-mail to:  [email protected]

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines -=-=-=-=-=-
sci.chem.coatings Ballot  (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here->

  Your Vote   Group
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 [         ]  CREATE sci.chem.coatings
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VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.


sci.chem.coatings Acknowledgement Bounce List
No need to revote
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No bounced acknowledgments at this time

Invalid ballots
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No invalid ballots at this time.


DISTRIBUTION:

This Call for votes is being posted to the following newsgroups:

	news.announce.newgroups  news.groups
	sci.chem                 sci.engr.chem
	sci.engr.lighting        sci.polymers
	sci.research

From [email protected] Mon Nov 27 09:00:33 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Kenneth Herron 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.lighting,sci.polymers,sci.research
Subject: RESULT: sci.chem.coatings passes 142:16
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                                RESULT
          unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings passes 142:16

sci.chem.coatings results - 158 valid votes

 Yes  No  | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group
---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
 142   16 | Yes  Yes |  Yes | sci.chem.coatings
   2 abstaining votes and 3 invalid ballots

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
sci.chem.coatings	Paints and Coatings practitioners.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 24 Nov 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponents.

Proponent: Bill Bren 
Proponent: Mike Lazar 
Votetaker: Kenneth Herron 

CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings

A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of
paints and coatings technology.  Anyone intrested will be welcome to
join in the discussion about, but not limited to:

	-	Polymeric coating resins
	-	Pigments
	-	Coatings additives
	-	Coatings solvents
	-	Powder coatings
	-	Professional societies and conferences
	-	Application techniques for paints and coatings
	-	Regulatory issues effecting coatings
	-	Sales and Marketing issues
	-	Manufacturing of paints
	-	Packaging and transportation of coatings materials.
	-	Employment opportunities within the coatings industry
	-	Educational and research resources
	-	Surface Color

The discussion will be held in english.  FAQ's should be developed for
specific areas of intrest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial
announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be
a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for paint users may or may
not get a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the
news group is to assist coatings practitioners in there craft with a
free flowing discussion of current coatings technology.

END CHARTER.

sci.chem.coatings Final Voter list

Voted YES
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[email protected]                                            Grant Nicmanis
[email protected]                                          Lachlan Cranswick
[email protected]                                             Wouter HAGENS
[email protected]                                             michal (m.s.) tencer
[email protected]                                                     T. Copeland
[email protected]                                   Nickolay V. Golego
[email protected]                                                scott holman
[email protected]                       [email protected]
[email protected]                                    Jianrong Feng
[email protected]                                             Gary S. Kovener
[email protected]                                                  Paul Koning
[email protected]                                                William H. Frye
[email protected]                                              John W. Schultz
[email protected]                                                 David Sherman
[email protected]                                          Danny Lee Barrickman
[email protected]                                            Donald R. Roberts
[email protected]                                Glen Morehead  
[email protected]                                             Robert F. Sergen
[email protected]                                               Samuel P. Morell
[email protected]                                       Sherri L. Bassner
[email protected]                                              Richard Bott
[email protected]                                         Jose A. Briones
[email protected]                                Frank J Kenny
[email protected]                                             David Rigby
[email protected]                                         B. E. Eichinger
[email protected]                                                  Dana Honeycutt
[email protected]                                               Stephen J. Mumby
[email protected]                                         Marshall Dudley
[email protected]                                                     Ron McGuire
[email protected]                                                      Dave Cell
[email protected]                                                 Bill Dawes
[email protected]                     Patrick J. Coyle
[email protected]                                        James D. Cloyd
[email protected]                                                    Adam Glass
[email protected]                                      J. Crowther
[email protected]                                    Robert F. Drury
[email protected]                                     Brian Devlin
[email protected]                                          Dr. Barry L. Ornitz
[email protected]                                      Delano R Eslinger
[email protected]                                                   Mark Lewis
[email protected]                                            Craig F. Taylor
[email protected]                                                 Jack Schmidt
[email protected]                                             Gordon Krofchick
[email protected]                                David A. Burgett
[email protected]                     Jeff Watson, Custom Chemicals of Texas
[email protected]                                                    Carl Wright
[email protected]                                         Thomas Jellinek
[email protected]                                                 Trudy Ricker
[email protected]                                             Alan G. Welsh
[email protected]                                              Elliot Burke
[email protected]                                                    Bai Xu
[email protected]                        todd warth 
[email protected]                                           William F. Morgan
[email protected]                                               Bill Bayard
[email protected]                                               Kim DeVaughn
[email protected]                                                   Scott Benton
[email protected]                                                Rick Griffin
[email protected]                                                 Martha Bren
[email protected]                                               Bill Bren
[email protected]                                             David Schneider
[email protected]                                 Marla deLombard-Watts
[email protected]                                           Paul Martin
[email protected]                                     Richard T. Brewer
[email protected]                                Carl P. Hemenway
[email protected]                         Dr. Carleton J. Barbour
[email protected]                               Edward J. Schaller
[email protected]                                  Greg J. Falcione
[email protected]                                      John R Reffner
[email protected]                                  John W. Hook, III
[email protected]                                  Keith A Alderfer
[email protected]                                           Michael P. James
[email protected]                                              David G. Kelly
[email protected]                           William H. Elfring
[email protected]                                                  Don Purinton
[email protected]                                                   Nina Sandlin
[email protected]                         Dr. Peter Reynders
[email protected]                           Dr. Bernhard Wessling
[email protected]                                                        Ben Elkin
[email protected]                                    Peter Fackelmann
[email protected]                                   Martin Schr"oder
[email protected]                                  Christoph Irle
[email protected]                                 Dr. Klaus Littmann
[email protected]                              Todd C. Lawson
[email protected]                                                Chris Stamper
[email protected]                                       Charles E. Carroll
[email protected]                                         Keith M. Petschke
[email protected]                                             Timothy Wheeler
[email protected]                                                    John Bullough
[email protected]                                     William J. Bayard
[email protected]                                       Jeffrey J. Weimer
[email protected]                                            Michael W. Daniels
[email protected]                                     M. E. Nichols
[email protected]                                      Garth D. Brown
[email protected]                                              Nantana Jiratumnukul
[email protected]                                               James O. Stoffer
[email protected]                                              Kiarash Shooshtari
[email protected]                                                    Nicole R Mason
[email protected]                                             William L. Dechent
[email protected]                                Bhaskar Gopalanarayanan
[email protected]                                           Tom Branham
[email protected]                                             J. Rufinus
[email protected]                                     TURGIS Jean-Dominique
[email protected]                                        Chris Zuiker
[email protected]                                              Ivan Clark
[email protected]                                      Vladimir Hinich
[email protected]                                           Enrico Vignudelli
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Eng-Soon, Teoh
[email protected]                                            Kerry Jane Dunavant
[email protected]                                                 Don Burger
[email protected]                                    Brian D. Webb, [email protected]
[email protected]                                                    Luc DeBecker
[email protected]                                                    Dave Kapp
[email protected]                                                  N. T. Wakelyn
[email protected]                                                    Harm Jellema
[email protected]                                    Miles Blount
[email protected]                                            Tom Upshaw
[email protected]                                                Brian Bresnahan
[email protected]                                                      Don Green
[email protected]                          Maarten van Helden
[email protected]                                            Michael Staines
[email protected]                                             Jim Oliver
[email protected]                                                  Gaetan Campeau
[email protected]                                                    Trevor Tymchuk
[email protected]                                                Hans Malmberg
[email protected]                                          Thierry Glauser
[email protected]                                            Maria Torvad
[email protected]                                         Edgar  Mommers
[email protected]                                            Gunnar Str
[email protected]                                    Chaveng Pakawatchai
[email protected]                                             Simon J.A. Williams
[email protected]                                         Steven Abbott
[email protected]                                             Ken Irving
[email protected]                                     RICHARD CAYLESS
[email protected]                                           Peter Smith
[email protected]                                         Robert Totman
[email protected]                                               Daniel Bode
[email protected]                                          Daniel Dukeson
[email protected]                                           dave carter
[email protected]                                Jacquin Wilford-Brown
[email protected]                                               S. Elliott

Voted NO
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[email protected]                                       Jan Coekelberghs
[email protected]                                               Kevin Mitchell
[email protected]                                                   Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                      John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                        G. Patrick Ryan
[email protected]                                            Patrick J. LoPresti
[email protected]                                                 Richard Miller
[email protected]                                               Ho-Leung Ng
[email protected]                                                 Lance Chun
[email protected]                                                    Una Smith
[email protected]                                          Risto Widenius
[email protected]                                                    Dan Birchall
[email protected]                                              Don Kiely
[email protected]                                                Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                              Cato Brede
[email protected]                                           Jim Maddison

Abstained
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[email protected]                                      K. Crouch
[email protected]                                                  M Mike Taksar

Invalid ballots
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[email protected]                                                jhron
    ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                     Wilson Lau
    ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]
    ! No vote statement in message