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From [email protected] Fri Sep 13 14:37:32 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Thomas Moll) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med.nursing,bit.listserv.snurse-l Subject: RFD: sci.med.nursing reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 13 Sep 1996 18:37:15 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 113 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.med.nursing-reorg Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9142 news.groups:230545 sci.med.nursing:23477 bit.listserv.snurse-l:17113                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)              unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.emergency               unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.student    unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing)  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization of the nursing group in the sci.med.* hierarchy.  This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  Newsgroup lines: sci.med.nursing.emergency	Emergency nursing and nursing care. sci.med.nursing.misc	Science, art, and practice of nursing. sci.med.nursing.student	Student nursing and nursing care.  RATIONALE: all groups  Sci.med.nursing is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the art and science of nursing. It currently generates approximately 200 messages per day.  The group has been ripe for a split for some time now, many users have asked for a separate group for the discussion of topics related to emergency nursing and another for student nursing.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.emergency  A discussion group dedicated to emergency nursing. Possible topics include:          * Triage         * Emergency life support         * Pediatric trauma         * General ER techniques and patient care         * Hospital ER policies         * Continuing emergency education  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to emergency nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.student  A discussion group dedicated to student nursing. Possible topics include:          * Nursing education         * Problems faced in student clinical settings         * Licensing exams         * Employment questions / Specialization queries         * Nursing research         * Advanced nursing studies : undergraduate, graduate, nurse practitioner, and beyond.  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to student nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.misc  Replacing sci.med.nursing, this group would be dedicated to all other forms of nursing and nursing care. Possible topics are all but unlimited and may include:          * Nursing theory         * Practical nursing applications         * Sexual harassment / violence in the workplace         * Clinical problems / solutions         * Medication problems / solutions         * Ethical issues in nursing          Commercial ads not _directly_ related to nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: all groups  Currently, sci.med.nursing is unmoderated. We have had little problem from spammers and prefer to deal with them by private email complaints. Therefore all three proposed groups would have no moderation.  END MODERATOR INFO.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.med.nursing, bit.listserv.snurse-l  - Proponent: Thomas Moll <[email protected]>  ----- Thomas Moll aka Fnord http://www.odyssee.net/~fnord Montreal, Quebec, Canada         "Back where I come from Lion, we have men who are called heroes"  From [email protected] Thu Oct 17 14:50:31 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.listserv.snurse-l,sci.med.nursing Subject: CFV: sci.med.nursing reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:50:29 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 147 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 8 Nov 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.med.nursing-reorg Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9283 news.groups:235375 bit.listserv.snurse-l:18737 sci.med.nursing:24907                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)              unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.emergency               unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.student    unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing)  Newsgroups line: sci.med.nursing.emergency	Emergency nursing and nursing care. sci.med.nursing.misc	Science, art, and practice of nursing. sci.med.nursing.student	Student nursing and nursing care.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 Nov 1996.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Thomas Moll <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: all groups  Sci.med.nursing is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the art and science of nursing.  It currently generates approximately 200 messages per day.  The group has been ripe for a split for some time now, many users have asked for a separate group for the discussion of topics related to emergency nursing and another for student nursing.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.emergency  A discussion group dedicated to emergency nursing.  Possible topics include:          * Triage         * Emergency life support         * Pediatric trauma         * General ER techniques and patient care         * Hospital ER policies         * Continuing emergency education  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to emergency nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.student  A discussion group dedicated to student nursing. Possible topics include:          * Nursing education         * Problems faced in student clinical settings         * Licensing exams         * Employment questions / Specialization queries         * Nursing research         * Advanced nursing studies : undergraduate, graduate, nurse practitioner, and beyond.  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to student nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.misc  Replacing sci.med.nursing, this group would be dedicated to all other forms of nursing and nursing care. Possible topics are all but unlimited and may include:          * Nursing theory         * Practical nursing applications         * Sexual harassment / violence in the workplace         * Clinical problems / solutions         * Medication problems / solutions         * Ethical issues in nursing          Commercial ads not _directly_ related to nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  HOW TO VOTE:  * Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after   the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about   the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your   reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!  * Mark the ballot and then MAIL it to: < [email protected] >   Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  * In order to properly record your vote, please provide your REAL NAME and   indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.  * Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:    [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote   [ NO      ]  example.no.vote   [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention   [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation  * DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!   If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.  ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: sci.med.nursing reorganization | Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:  Voter name:  | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):   Your Vote   Newsgroup  ---------   ----------------------------------------------------------- [         ]  sci.med.nursing.emergency [         ]  sci.med.nursing.student [         ]  sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing)  ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  --  Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> Voting address: <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Sun Oct 27 07:12:47 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.listserv.snurse-l,sci.med.nursing Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.med.nursing reorganization Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 27 Oct 1996 12:12:43 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 147 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 8 Nov 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.med.nursing-reorg Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9302 news.groups:236537 bit.listserv.snurse-l:19090 sci.med.nursing:25339                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)              unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.emergency               unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.student    unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing)  Newsgroups line: sci.med.nursing.emergency	Emergency nursing and nursing care. sci.med.nursing.misc	Science, art, and practice of nursing. sci.med.nursing.student	Student nursing and nursing care.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 Nov 1996.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Thomas Moll <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: all groups  Sci.med.nursing is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the art and science of nursing.  It currently generates approximately 200 messages per day.  The group has been ripe for a split for some time now, many users have asked for a separate group for the discussion of topics related to emergency nursing and another for student nursing.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.emergency  A discussion group dedicated to emergency nursing.  Possible topics include:          * Triage         * Emergency life support         * Pediatric trauma         * General ER techniques and patient care         * Hospital ER policies         * Continuing emergency education  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to emergency nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.student  A discussion group dedicated to student nursing. Possible topics include:          * Nursing education         * Problems faced in student clinical settings         * Licensing exams         * Employment questions / Specialization queries         * Nursing research         * Advanced nursing studies : undergraduate, graduate, nurse practitioner, and beyond.  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to student nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.misc  Replacing sci.med.nursing, this group would be dedicated to all other forms of nursing and nursing care. Possible topics are all but unlimited and may include:          * Nursing theory         * Practical nursing applications         * Sexual harassment / violence in the workplace         * Clinical problems / solutions         * Medication problems / solutions         * Ethical issues in nursing          Commercial ads not _directly_ related to nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  HOW TO VOTE:  * Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after   the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about   the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your   reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!  * Mark the ballot and then MAIL it to: < [email protected] >   Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  * In order to properly record your vote, please provide your REAL NAME and   indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.  * Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:    [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote   [ NO      ]  example.no.vote   [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention   [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation  * DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!   If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.  ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: sci.med.nursing reorganization | Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:  Voter name:  | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):   Your Vote   Newsgroup  ---------   ----------------------------------------------------------- [         ]  sci.med.nursing.emergency [         ]  sci.med.nursing.student [         ]  sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing)  ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  --  Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> Voting address: <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Sat Nov  9 09:48:43 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.listserv.snurse-l,sci.med.nursing Subject: RESULT: sci.med.nursing reorganization all groups fail Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 9 Nov 1996 09:46:53 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 195 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.med.nursing-reorg Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9326 news.groups:238116 bit.listserv.snurse-l:19545 sci.med.nursing:26129                                  RESULT        unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.emergency fails 55:25         unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.student fails 52:25 unmoderated group sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing) fails 45:43  sci.med.nursing reorganization results - 89 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------   55   25 :  Yes    No :    No : sci.med.nursing.emergency   52   25 :  Yes    No :    No : sci.med.nursing.student   45   43 :   No    No :    No : sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing)    3 invalid votes  Newsgroups line: sci.med.nursing.emergency	Emergency nursing and nursing care. sci.med.nursing.misc	Science, art, and practice of nursing. sci.med.nursing.student	Student nursing and nursing care.  The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 7 Nov 1996.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Thomas Moll <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: all groups  Sci.med.nursing is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated to the art and science of nursing.  It currently generates approximately 200 messages per day.  The group has been ripe for a split for some time now, many users have asked for a separate group for the discussion of topics related to emergency nursing and another for student nursing.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.emergency  A discussion group dedicated to emergency nursing.  Possible topics include:          * Triage         * Emergency life support         * Pediatric trauma         * General ER techniques and patient care         * Hospital ER policies         * Continuing emergency education  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to emergency nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.student  A discussion group dedicated to student nursing. Possible topics include:          * Nursing education         * Problems faced in student clinical settings         * Licensing exams         * Employment questions / Specialization queries         * Nursing research         * Advanced nursing studies : undergraduate, graduate, nurse practitioner, and beyond.  Commercial ads not _directly_ related to student nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.med.nursing.misc  Replacing sci.med.nursing, this group would be dedicated to all other forms of nursing and nursing care. Possible topics are all but unlimited and may include:          * Nursing theory         * Practical nursing applications         * Sexual harassment / violence in the workplace         * Clinical problems / solutions         * Medication problems / solutions         * Ethical issues in nursing          Commercial ads not _directly_ related to nursing are not allowed.  END CHARTER.  sci.med.nursing reorganization Final Vote Ack                            sci.med.nursing.misc (renames sci.med.nursing) -----+                                                 sci.med.nursing.student ----+|                                               sci.med.nursing.emergency ---+||                                                                            ||| [email protected]                                                          C.L. 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Booda NNN [email protected]                                             B Serviss NNN [email protected]                                    Camilla Cracchiolo YYN [email protected]                                       Colin Douthwaite --N [email protected]                                        Patti Priddy NNN [email protected]                                      Chris Taylor YYY [email protected]                                         Claire YYN [email protected]                                          Carla Van Bennekom NNN [email protected]                                      Dave JW Day YYY day[email protected]                                           Peggy Day, R.N. NNN [email protected]                                Donald L. Christenson Y-Y [email protected]                                            Don Kiely YYY [email protected]                                              E.Schuller YYY [email protected]                                      Elisa H. Casey RN YYY [email protected]                                    Tim Eldredge NNN [email protected]                                      Matthew Emme NNN [email protected]                                         Dennis J. Ernst YYY [email protected]                                        Felicia Marion YYY [email protected]                                              Thomas Moll YYY [email protected]                                     Greg Marshall YYY [email protected]                                           Paula Fratus YYY [email protected]                                             Ed Gaillard NNN [email protected]                            Grant Tomlinson NNN [email protected]                                          Beth B. Hardy NYN [email protected]                                                       YYN [email protected]                                 Jim Baranovich --- [email protected]                                      Sue Francis YYY [email protected]                         J. Michael Battig & Belinda Heaton YYY [email protected]                                               J. B. Levin Y-Y [email protected]                                      Janet L. Fickeissen -YN [email protected]                                              John Klimm Y-N [email protected]                                              Jim Lowman YYY [email protected]                                         James McGarry YYY [email protected]                                         Jacqueline W. Riley YNY [email protected]                                       JoAnn Wakelyn YYN [email protected]                                  Zina M. Atkinson YYY [email protected]                                                     Tom Trimble Y-N [email protected]                                             James Johnson YYY [email protected]                              Derek Lardenoye YYY [email protected]                                              Kim DeVaughn YYN [email protected]                           Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 555 5508 YYY [email protected]                                              Kelly Jones YYY [email protected]                                              Isaac Kuo --N [email protected]                                        Linda Hoke YYY [email protected]                                            Linda McKenney YYY [email protected]                                                Lisa Berry NNN [email protected]                              Martin Schr"oder NNN [email protected]              Michael J. Roche YYN [email protected]                                           Mary Brophy YYY [email protected]                                         Mary Carroll  NNN [email protected]                                      Michael Herin YYN [email protected]                                       Adrian Walsh  YYY [email protected]                                       Michael T Pins NNN [email protected]                                                 Nigel Allen YYY [email protected]                                          Ho Leung Ng YYY [email protected]                                      Nick Ingegneri YYN [email protected]                                         Olav Nieuwejaar NNN [email protected]                                       Patrick J. LoPresti NNN [email protected]                                       Patricia A. Kelly NNN [email protected]                                      Barbara Pattist NNN [email protected]                                            Trevor Tymchuk YYY [email protected]                                                   Per Viggen NNN [email protected]                                        Ralf W. Stephan YYY [email protected]                                        Roberto Galindo YYY [email protected]                                            Richard Miller NNN [email protected]                                                 R. T. Wurth --N [email protected]                                       Scott C. Donohue NNN [email protected]                                         Stephen C. Stone YYY [email protected]                                              Dwight Brown NNN [email protected]                                                 Stein Teppen YYY [email protected]                                               Tony Basoglu YYY [email protected]                                           Tom Griffin YYY [email protected]                                 Thor Kottelin YNY [email protected]                                        Tim Brackett YYY [email protected]                                           Todd C. Lawson  NNN [email protected]                                              N.T. Wakelyn --N [email protected]                                         Diane Wink YYY [email protected]                                                          YYY   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                   Michael & Gay Salazar    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                             james edwin macey    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                            Jeffrey Crompton    ! No ballot  --  Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> Voting address: <[email protected]> 
 
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