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From [email protected] Thu Aug 17 03:02:13 2000 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Malcolm McMahon <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.sci.nanotech,sci.life-extension,sci.cryonics,alt.society.futures,comp.society.futures,rec.arts.sf.science Subject: RFD: soc.nanotech Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: soc.nanotech Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:23:52 GMT Lines: 79 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11570 news.groups:362782 sci.life-extension:33444 sci.cryonics:11203 comp.society.futures:13859 rec.arts.sf.science:101535                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)                     unmoderated group soc.nanotech  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup soc.nanotech.  This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.  Procedural details are below.  Newgroup Line: soc.nanotech    Social and political consequences of nanotechnology  RATIONALE: soc.nanotech  The existing sci.nanotech was set up as a forum for the discussion of technical approaches to the development of molecular nanotechnology, which is the development of machines capable of mechanically manipulating individual molecules or atoms.  The predicted development of this technology has enormous economic, social and even philosophical implications. At present most of the traffic on sci.nanotech consists of discussion and speculation on these matters, which is actually off-topic for a science group.  Further sci.nanotech is moderated. It makes sense for a technical discussion group to be moderated by an expert in the field but it's not the ideal situation for free-flowing debate on highly speculative matters.  The proposal, first put forward on sci.nanotech, is to create a nanotechnology group in the soc hierarchy as an arena for such discussion and leave sci.nanotech to far more rigourous technical matters.  CHARTER: soc.nanotech  soc.nanotech is a group for speculation and discussion on the possible effects on the future of mankind and the environment resulting from the predicted development of molecular nanotechnology.  Advertisements are not permitted, with the exception of notice of specifically related events or calls for papers.  Binaries are not permitted except for small digital signatures and digital calling cards.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  news.announce.newgroups news.groups sci.nanotech alt.sci.nanotech alt.extropians sci.life-extension sci.cryonics alt.society.futures comp.society.futures rec.arts.sf.science  Proponent: Malcolm McMahon <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Sun Sep 24 20:59:37 2000 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Malcolm McMahon <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.sci.nanotech,sci.life-extension,sci.cryonics,alt.society.futures,comp.society.futures,rec.arts.sf.science Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.futureology.nanotech (was: soc.nanotech) Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: sci.futureology.nanotech Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 03:55:07 GMT Lines: 98 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11590 news.groups:365738 sci.life-extension:34197 sci.cryonics:11323 comp.society.futures:13889 rec.arts.sf.science:103746                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)               unmoderated group sci.futureology.nanotech  Newgroup Line: sci.futureology.nanotech        Social and political consequences of nanotech.  CHANGES from previous RFD:  Name changed to sci.futureology.nanotech from soc.nanotech.  RATIONALE: sci.futureology.nanotech  The existing sci.nanotech was set up as a forum for the discussion of technical approaches to the development of molecular nanotechnology, which is the development of machines capable of mechanically manipulating individual molecules or atoms.  The predicted development of this technology has enormous economic, social and even philosophical implications. At present most of the traffic on sci.nanotech consists of discussion and speculation on these matters, which is actually off-topic for a science group.  Further sci.nanotech is moderated. It makes sense for a technical discussion group to be moderated by an expert in the field but it's not the ideal situation for free-flowing debate on highly speculative matters.  The proposal, first put forward on sci.nanotech, is to create a nanotechnology group in the soc hierarchy as an arena for such discussion and leave sci.nanotech to far more rigourous technical matters.  Reaction to the first RFD showed a lot of resistance to the placement of the new group in soc.* so, the proposed name has been changed to sci.futureology.nanotech. This categorises the kind of discussion quite well and also provides a hook for any further groups for the discussion of future consequences of other technologies as sci.futureology.*  Straw poll.  A straw pole advertised solely on sci.nanotech and with the originally proposed group name for one week produced the following results.  16 votes for the creation of soc.nanotech. 5  votes against the creation of soc.nanotech. 1  abstain (gee, that wasn't an option!) 1  comment (couldn't tell if it was for or against).  Hopefully the combination of a more widely advertised CFV and the greater number of people who vote in CFVs anyway will give us enough votes.  CHARTER: sci.futureology.nanotech  sci.futureology.nanotech is a group for speculation and discussion on the possible effects on the future of mankind and the environment resulting from the predicted development of molecular nanotechnology.  Advertisements are not permitted, with the exception of notice of specifically related events or calls for papers.  Binaries are not permitted except for small digital signatures and digital calling cards.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  news.announce.newgroups news.groups sci.nanotech alt.sci.nanotech sci.life-extension sci.cryonics alt.society.futures comp.society.futures rec.arts.sf.science  Proponent: Malcolm McMahon <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Sun Oct  8 18:59:07 2000 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Malcolm McMahon <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.sci.nanotech,sci.life-extension,sci.cryonics,alt.society.futures,comp.society.futures,rec.arts.sf.science Subject: 3rd RFD: sci.futurology.nanotech (was: soc.nanotech then sci.futureology.nanotech) Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: sci.futurology.nanotech Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 01:56:48 GMT Lines: 100 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11595 news.groups:366881 sci.life-extension:34497 sci.cryonics:11364 comp.society.futures:13900 rec.arts.sf.science:104581                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)               unmoderated group sci.futurology.nanotech  CHANGES from previous RFD:  This 3rd RFD, embarassingly, is just to correct a spelling mistake in the proposed name.  Newgroup Line: sci.futurology.nanotech Social and political consequences of nanotechnology.  RATIONALE: sci.futurology.nanotech  The existing sci.nanotech was set up as a forum for the discussion of technical approaches to the development of molecular nanotechnology, which is the development of machines capable of mechanically manipulating individual molecules or atoms.  The predicted development of this technology has enormous economic, social and even philosophical implications. At present most of the traffic on sci.nanotech consists of discussion and speculation on these matters, which is actually off-topic for a science group.  Further sci.nanotech is moderated. It makes sense for a technical discussion group to be moderated by an expert in the field but it's not the ideal situation for free-flowing debate on highly speculative matters.  The proposal, first put forward on sci.nanotech, is to create a nanotechnology group in the soc hierarchy as an arena for such discussion and leave sci.nanotech to far more rigourous technical matters.  Reaction to the first RFD showed a lot of resistance to the placement of the new group in soc.* so, the proposed name has been changed to sci.futurology.nanotech. This categorises the kind of discussion quite well and also provides a hook for any further groups for the discussion of future consequences of other technologies as sci.futurology.*   Straw poll.  A straw pole advertised solely on sci.nanotech and with the originally proposed group name for one week produced the following results.  16 votes for the creation of soc.nanotech. 5  votes against the creation of soc.nanotech. 1  abstain (gee, that wasn't an option!) 1  comment (couldn't tell if it was for or against).  Hopefully the combination of a more widely advertised CFV and the greater number of people who vote in CFVs anyway will give us enough votes.  CHARTER: sci.futurology.nanotech  sci.futurology.nanotech is a group for speculation and discussion on the possible effects on the future of mankind and the environment resulting >From the predicted development of molecular nanotechnology.  Advertisements are not permitted, with the exception of notice of specifically related events or calls for papers.  Binaries are not permitted except for small digital signatures and digital calling cards.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  news.announce.newgroups news.groups sci.nanotech alt.sci.nanotech sci.life-extension sci.cryonics alt.society.futures comp.society.futures rec.arts.sf.science  Proponent: Malcolm McMahon <[email protected]>