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From [email protected] Tue Apr 14 01:15:10 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: "B. Alex Pettit Jr." <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: RFD: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:09:48 GMT Lines: 75 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9956 news.groups:278337 sci.astro:172822 sci.astro.amateur:102449 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group sci.astro.ccd-imaging This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup sci.astro.ccd-imaging. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup line: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital image capture and processing. RATIONALE: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital imaging and processing is gaining interest among amateur astronomers. This is due to its ability to effectively see through night sky light pollution and the increasing availability of less expensive hardware. The creation of a group for the centralization of digital imaging information would encourage and assist others in gaining understanding of this new technology. While there are groups appropriate for the discussion of digital astronomy imaging, there is currently no distinct location for this information. The astronomy related newsgroups sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur have posting volumes exceeding 125 and 240 posts, respectively, per day. The creation of this group would allow for the focus of related postings (currently 5 to 15 per day) to be maintained within this forum and apart from the diverse base of information in the existing newsgroups. CHARTER: sci.astro.ccd-imaging The newsgroup sci.astro.ccd-imaging would be used by those in the astronomy field and hobby to discuss related topics in hardware and software. This would include the techniques and processes related to the acquisition of the digital data, and the processing of that data into digital images or quantitative astrometric information. Explicitly, it would not be the intended purpose of this newsgroup to be a forum for the posting of image files, but references to their web page links could be included. However, the posting of these image links would be for educative and illustrative purposes only , with information regarding the techniques used to derive and process them a requirement. Commercial posts while not prohibited should be short and pertinent. Binary postings would be prohibited. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur Proponent: B. Alex Pettit Jr. <[email protected]> From [email protected] Wed May 13 14:00:05 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: CFV: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 4 Jun 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:48:10 GMT Lines: 142 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10081 news.groups:282949 sci.astro:175496 sci.astro.amateur:109038 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group sci.astro.ccd-imaging This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups line: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital image capture and processing. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Jun 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: B. Alex Pettit Jr. <[email protected]> Votetaker: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> RATIONALE: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital imaging and processing is gaining interest among amateur astronomers. This is due to its ability to effectively see through night sky light pollution, its ability to provide high quality images in less time than film photography, and the increasing availability of less expensive hardware. The creation of a group for the centralization of digital imaging information would encourage and assist others in gaining understanding of this new technology. While there are groups appropriate for the discussion of digital astronomy imaging, there is currently no distinct location for this information. The astronomy related newsgroups sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur have posting volumes exceeding 125 and 240 posts, respectively, per day. The creation of this group would allow for the focus of related postings (currently 5 to 15 per day) to be maintained within this forum and apart from the diverse base of information in the existing newsgroups. CHARTER: sci.astro.ccd-imaging The newsgroup sci.astro.ccd-imaging would be used by those in the astronomy field and hobby to discuss related topics in hardware and software in digital imaging. This would include the techniques and processes related to the acquisition of the digital data, and the processing of that data into digital images or quantitative information. CCD (Charge Coupled Device) is the current digital imaging technology, but it is not intended that this be an imposed discussion topic limitation. Explicitly, it would not be the intended purpose of this newsgroup to be a forum for the posting of image files, but references to their web page links could be included. However, the posting of these image links would be for educative and illustrative purposes only , with information regarding the techniques used to derive and process them included. Commercial posts while not prohibited should be short and pertinent. Binary postings would be prohibited. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me! Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide your REAL NAME and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] > Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote: [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot. If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: sci.astro.ccd-imaging | Official Usenet Voting Ballot(Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line: Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] sci.astro.ccd-imaging ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== DISTRIBUTION: Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be mailed to these mailing lists: [email protected] [email protected] This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997). PQ datestamp: 980322 -- Voting address: [email protected] From [email protected] Mon May 25 12:30:15 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 4 Jun 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:18:31 GMT Lines: 153 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10111 news.groups:284462 sci.astro:176402 sci.astro.amateur:111641 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group sci.astro.ccd-imaging This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups line: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital image capture and processing. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Jun 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: B. Alex Pettit Jr. <[email protected]> Votetaker: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> RATIONALE: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital imaging and processing is gaining interest among amateur astronomers. This is due to its ability to effectively see through night sky light pollution, its ability to provide high quality images in less time than film photography, and the increasing availability of less expensive hardware. The creation of a group for the centralization of digital imaging information would encourage and assist others in gaining understanding of this new technology. While there are groups appropriate for the discussion of digital astronomy imaging, there is currently no distinct location for this information. The astronomy related newsgroups sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur have posting volumes exceeding 125 and 240 posts, respectively, per day. The creation of this group would allow for the focus of related postings (currently 5 to 15 per day) to be maintained within this forum and apart from the diverse base of information in the existing newsgroups. CHARTER: sci.astro.ccd-imaging The newsgroup sci.astro.ccd-imaging would be used by those in the astronomy field and hobby to discuss related topics in hardware and software in digital imaging. This would include the techniques and processes related to the acquisition of the digital data, and the processing of that data into digital images or quantitative information. CCD (Charge Coupled Device) is the current digital imaging technology, but it is not intended that this be an imposed discussion topic limitation. Explicitly, it would not be the intended purpose of this newsgroup to be a forum for the posting of image files, but references to their web page links could be included. However, the posting of these image links would be for educative and illustrative purposes only , with information regarding the techniques used to derive and process them included. Commercial posts while not prohibited should be short and pertinent. Binary postings would be prohibited. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me! Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide your REAL NAME and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] > Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote: [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot. If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: sci.astro.ccd-imaging | Official Usenet Voting Ballot (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line: Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] sci.astro.ccd-imaging ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== DISTRIBUTION: Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be mailed to these mailing lists: [email protected] [email protected] sci.astro.ccd-imaging Bounce List - Please contact me about your vote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected] CJ Carrell [email protected] Harvey Hollister [email protected] John Blackwell [email protected] Jan Lustrup [email protected] Richard Kowalski [email protected] Roderick Darroch Elliott [email protected] Kevin Jung [email protected] Elaine Walker This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997). PQ datestamp: 980322 -- Voting address: [email protected] From [email protected] Wed Jun 3 17:45:12 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: RESULT: sci.astro.ccd-imaging passes 133:14 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:35:21 GMT Lines: 250 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10132 news.groups:286479 sci.astro:177485 sci.astro.amateur:114505 RESULT unmoderated group sci.astro.ccd-imaging passes 133:14 There were 133 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 147 valid votes. There were 7 abstentions and 4 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital image capture and processing. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Jun 1998. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: B. Alex Pettit Jr. <[email protected]> Votetaker: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> RATIONALE: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital imaging and processing is gaining interest among amateur astronomers. This is due to its ability to effectively see through night sky light pollution, its ability to provide high quality images in less time than film photography, and the increasing availability of less expensive hardware. The creation of a group for the centralization of digital imaging information would encourage and assist others in gaining understanding of this new technology. While there are groups appropriate for the discussion of digital astronomy imaging, there is currently no distinct location for this information. The astronomy related newsgroups sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur have posting volumes exceeding 125 and 240 posts, respectively, per day. The creation of this group would allow for the focus of related postings (currently 5 to 15 per day) to be maintained within this forum and apart from the diverse base of information in the existing newsgroups. CHARTER: sci.astro.ccd-imaging The newsgroup sci.astro.ccd-imaging would be used by those in the astronomy field and hobby to discuss related topics in hardware and software in digital imaging. This would include the techniques and processes related to the acquisition of the digital data, and the processing of that data into digital images or quantitative information. CCD (Charge Coupled Device) is the current digital imaging technology, but it is not intended that this be an imposed discussion topic limitation. Explicitly, it would not be the intended purpose of this newsgroup to be a forum for the posting of image files, but references to their web page links could be included. However, the posting of these image links would be for educative and illustrative purposes only , with information regarding the techniques used to derive and process them included. Commercial posts while not prohibited should be short and pertinent. Binary postings would be prohibited. END CHARTER. sci.astro.ccd-imaging Final Voter list Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ reiki [at] corplink.com.au Gary McKenzie nrm [at] tusc.com.au Nigel McFarlane jasmine [at] fl.net.au Jasmine Taylor terryr [at] cs.mu.oz.au Terry Robison doctor [at] doctor.nl2k.ab.ca Dave Yadallee fbarret [at] ccs.carleton.ca E.S.Fred Barrett chriseb [at] nortel.ca Chris Ebenezer jimjr [at] fareway.on.ca Jim Fare PaulGitto [at] aol.com Paul Gitto kimdv [at] best.com Kim DeVaughn talon1 [at] bigfoot.com Michael Quayle BMH [at] bigpond.com Bevan Harris bitnik [at] bitnik.com Richard Kowalski jce [at] boone.com Joe Ennis adam [at] channel1.com Adam Albino shay [at] controlmanagement.com Shay Walters gherbert [at] crl.com George William Herbert dgeorge [at] cyanogen.com Douglas B. George booda [at] datasync.com Martin H. Booda willp [at] dreamscape.com Will Pierce adriano [at] edmar-co.com Adriano DeFreitas bjv [at] herbison.com B.J. Herbison rubis [at] home.com Randall Rubis lcoe [at] phoenix.rsn.hp.com Loren A. Coe upton [at] austin.ibm.com John Upton jameswat [at] idirect.com James Watt kwenker [at] interaccess.com Kevin Wenker buehlerd [at] itsnet.com David Buehler kstrauss [at] legendcomm.com Ken Strauss william.carbone [at] lmco.com Bill Carbone rhrodieck [at] loop.com Roy Rodieck cipher [at] mindspring.com Cipher peking [at] mindspring.com Pat King johnb [at] regulus.mv.com John Blackwell ksjung [at] ix10.ix.netcom.com Kevin Jung rkuberek [at] ix.netcom.com RCK stevemot [at] ix.netcom.com Steve Mottin tom37 [at] ix.netcom.com Tom Katzman wa2ise [at] netcom.com Robert Casey dcasey [at] primenet.com David Casey jjd [at] primenet.com Jim Davis pcourno1 [at] nycap.rr.com Paul Cournoyer wmcclain [at] salamander.com William McClain clarkegraham [at] saltspring.com Tom Graham Lou.Laderman [at] SERX.COM Louis N. Laderman chris [at] skymap.com Chris Marriott stamper [at] stamper.com Chris Stamper Dave_Durant [at] vos.stratus.com Dave Durant pan [at] syix.com Pan arielle [at] taronga.com Stephanie da Silva dreitman [at] teleport.com Daniel R. Reitman gossj [at] std.teradyne.com Jay Goss bert [at] rsvl.unisys.com Bert Hyman cgrimes [at] walldata.com Chad Grimes xanthian [at] well.com Kent Paul Dolan Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de Ekkehard Uthke aknoefel [at] Disi.Ddorf.Rhein-Ruhr.De Andre Knoefel Stefan.Breuer2 [at] post.rwth-aachen.de Stefan Breuer wilfried.wiehler [at] mch.sni.de Wilfried Wiehler Gary.Suffield [at] t-online.de Gary Suffield bouvin [at] daimi.aau.dk Niels Olof Bouvin ht.ohlsen [at] ddf.dk Hans-Henrik T. Ohlsen mphelps [at] cfa.harvard.edu Matt Phelps lent [at] callisto.ee.nd.edu Craig S. Lent mark [at] zermatt-ra.swmed.edu Mark Wessels kmmontandon [at] ucdavis.edu Kurt Montandon frank [at] ucla.edu Frank Henriquez oliver [at] astro.ufl.edu John P. Oliver eric [at] marge.extlib.usu.edu Eric Hawley rufinus [at] mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus jshin [at] pantheon.yale.edu Jungshik Shin neastrom [at] arrakis.es Eduardo Perez Ramon.barber [at] vlc.servicom.es Ramon Barber koski [at] clinet.fi Jorma Koski franckey [at] imaginet.fr Franckey Rougane droege [at] fnal.gov Tom Droege mroz [at] lanl.gov Gene Mroz HPBraeuning [at] lbl.gov Harald Braeuning David.I.Nakamoto [at] jpl.nasa.gov David I. Nakamoto jpc [at] drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark gpaleo [at] ath.forthnet.gr G. N. Paleologopoulos bozidar.benc [at] sb.tel.hr Bozidar Benc ariciputi [at] mbox.queen.it Riciputi Andrea mmarzano [at] rmnet.it Marcello Marzano wlawson [at] aa.net William Lawson sidlee [at] agt.net Sid Lee bhill [at] arn.net Robert L Hill asterism [at] worldnet.att.net Michael Toomey hermperez [at] worldnet.att.net Herm Perez JUSTFORJESUS [at] postoffice.worldnet.att.net Charles Gremillion fred [at] eatel.net Frederick J. Barnett Jr. markwain [at] flash.net Mark Wainright jims [at] frontiernet.net Jim Seidewand ellis [at] ftel.net Rick Ellis Daniel.Preineder [at] gmx.net Daniel Preineder smith77 [at] ibm.net John C. Smith iclark [at] infi.net Ivan Clark ebarnes [at] shore.intercom.net Eric Barnes apettit [at] magicnet.net b. alex pettit jr tscar [at] magicnet.net Todd Scarborough tc [at] Mcs.Net Thomas Cuny csand [at] micron.net Cal Sandfort burt [at] netonecom.net Burt Adsit bfrost [at] nyx.net Bonnell Frost lenw [at] oz.net Leonard Westbo, Jr. wakelyn [at] pinn.net N. T. Wakelyn grinch [at] rahul.net Mark Gingrich vpn [at] ricochet.net V Pascal Nelson tomhob [at] ris.net Tom Hobby dmeade [at] slip.net David Meade mhattey [at] fdeltd.win-uk.net Michael Andrew Hattey tplatt [at] starlight.win-uk.net Terence Christopher Platt lustrup [at] online.no Jan Lustrup david [at] home.net.nz David Farrar herr [at] acm.org Joe Herr nospam [at] haar.ddns.org Jan Haar robert_stephens [at] eee.org Robert D. Stephens robotech [at] eyrie.org Christopher E. Meadows hfung [at] lerami.lerctr.org Henry Fung danco [at] pebble.org Dan Cook ekaanhn [at] kkeka.ericsson.se Anders Hansson niklas.netz [at] swipnet.se Niklas Netz weileong [at] singnet.com.sg Tan Wei Leong sft [at] aegis1.demon.co.uk Stephen Tonkin martin [at] chalford.demon.co.uk Martin Coburn prh [at] essence.demon.co.uk Peter Humphrey Martin [at] nezumi.demon.co.uk Martin Tom Brown graham [at] oakside.demon.co.uk Graham Warrellow ian [at] soliton.demon.co.uk Ian Cargill Voting [at] valdena.demon.co.uk AST Chrish [at] easynet.co.uk Chris Heapy nir [at] easynet.co.uk Nir Leuchter rljones [at] netcomuk.co.uk Richard Jones Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ calabres [at] chass.utoronto.ca T.Calabrese Blandp1 [at] aol.com Philip J. Blanda III jrm [at] best.com John R. MacWilliamson stainles [at] bga.com Dwight Brown bob [at] flaminio.com Bob Flaminio olav [at] viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar steiners [at] primenet.com Jason Steiner naddy [at] mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber dirk.gomez [at] sap-ag.de Dirk Gomez clp [at] alumni.caltech.edu Chris L Peterson y-pisan [at] nwu.edu Yusuf Pisan rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller pbern7 [at] earthlink.net Paul Bernhardt marquez [at] pacbell.net Aaron Marquez Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ desiegel [at] aol.com D. E. Siegel cdt [at] audiophile.com Chris Trumbore guymacon [at] deltanet.com [email protected] (Guy Macon) curtis_whalen+usenet [at] geocities.com Curtis [Jewell] Whalen chris [at] kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman mlewis [at] cerberus.swmed.edu Matthew A Lewis jlazio [at] patriot.net Joseph Lazio Invalid votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Harvey [at] connecti.com Harvey Hollister ! Undeliverable address catfish [at] wilhelp.com CJ Carrell ! Undeliverable address walker [at] fizzy.murdoch.edu Elaine Walker ! Undeliverable address PSrRPdOOAeFM [at] ican.net Roderick Darroch Elliott ! Undeliverable address -- Neil Crellin, UVV <[email protected]> From [email protected] Fri Jun 5 10:33:43 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: RESULT: sci.astro.ccd-imaging passes 133:14 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:35:21 GMT Lines: 250 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10144 news.groups:286794 sci.astro:177683 sci.astro.amateur:115026 RESULT unmoderated group sci.astro.ccd-imaging passes 133:14 There were 133 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 147 valid votes. There were 7 abstentions and 4 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital image capture and processing. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Jun 1998. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: B. Alex Pettit Jr. <[email protected]> Votetaker: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> RATIONALE: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital imaging and processing is gaining interest among amateur astronomers. This is due to its ability to effectively see through night sky light pollution, its ability to provide high quality images in less time than film photography, and the increasing availability of less expensive hardware. The creation of a group for the centralization of digital imaging information would encourage and assist others in gaining understanding of this new technology. While there are groups appropriate for the discussion of digital astronomy imaging, there is currently no distinct location for this information. The astronomy related newsgroups sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur have posting volumes exceeding 125 and 240 posts, respectively, per day. The creation of this group would allow for the focus of related postings (currently 5 to 15 per day) to be maintained within this forum and apart from the diverse base of information in the existing newsgroups. CHARTER: sci.astro.ccd-imaging The newsgroup sci.astro.ccd-imaging would be used by those in the astronomy field and hobby to discuss related topics in hardware and software in digital imaging. This would include the techniques and processes related to the acquisition of the digital data, and the processing of that data into digital images or quantitative information. CCD (Charge Coupled Device) is the current digital imaging technology, but it is not intended that this be an imposed discussion topic limitation. Explicitly, it would not be the intended purpose of this newsgroup to be a forum for the posting of image files, but references to their web page links could be included. However, the posting of these image links would be for educative and illustrative purposes only , with information regarding the techniques used to derive and process them included. Commercial posts while not prohibited should be short and pertinent. Binary postings would be prohibited. END CHARTER. sci.astro.ccd-imaging Final Voter list Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ reiki [at] corplink.com.au Gary McKenzie nrm [at] tusc.com.au Nigel McFarlane jasmine [at] fl.net.au Jasmine Taylor terryr [at] cs.mu.oz.au Terry Robison doctor [at] doctor.nl2k.ab.ca Dave Yadallee fbarret [at] ccs.carleton.ca E.S.Fred Barrett chriseb [at] nortel.ca Chris Ebenezer jimjr [at] fareway.on.ca Jim Fare PaulGitto [at] aol.com Paul Gitto kimdv [at] best.com Kim DeVaughn talon1 [at] bigfoot.com Michael Quayle BMH [at] bigpond.com Bevan Harris bitnik [at] bitnik.com Richard Kowalski jce [at] boone.com Joe Ennis adam [at] channel1.com Adam Albino shay [at] controlmanagement.com Shay Walters gherbert [at] crl.com George William Herbert dgeorge [at] cyanogen.com Douglas B. George booda [at] datasync.com Martin H. Booda willp [at] dreamscape.com Will Pierce adriano [at] edmar-co.com Adriano DeFreitas bjv [at] herbison.com B.J. Herbison rubis [at] home.com Randall Rubis lcoe [at] phoenix.rsn.hp.com Loren A. Coe upton [at] austin.ibm.com John Upton jameswat [at] idirect.com James Watt kwenker [at] interaccess.com Kevin Wenker buehlerd [at] itsnet.com David Buehler kstrauss [at] legendcomm.com Ken Strauss william.carbone [at] lmco.com Bill Carbone rhrodieck [at] loop.com Roy Rodieck cipher [at] mindspring.com Cipher peking [at] mindspring.com Pat King johnb [at] regulus.mv.com John Blackwell ksjung [at] ix10.ix.netcom.com Kevin Jung rkuberek [at] ix.netcom.com RCK stevemot [at] ix.netcom.com Steve Mottin tom37 [at] ix.netcom.com Tom Katzman wa2ise [at] netcom.com Robert Casey dcasey [at] primenet.com David Casey jjd [at] primenet.com Jim Davis pcourno1 [at] nycap.rr.com Paul Cournoyer wmcclain [at] salamander.com William McClain clarkegraham [at] saltspring.com Tom Graham Lou.Laderman [at] SERX.COM Louis N. Laderman chris [at] skymap.com Chris Marriott stamper [at] stamper.com Chris Stamper Dave_Durant [at] vos.stratus.com Dave Durant pan [at] syix.com Pan arielle [at] taronga.com Stephanie da Silva dreitman [at] teleport.com Daniel R. Reitman gossj [at] std.teradyne.com Jay Goss bert [at] rsvl.unisys.com Bert Hyman cgrimes [at] walldata.com Chad Grimes xanthian [at] well.com Kent Paul Dolan Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de Ekkehard Uthke aknoefel [at] Disi.Ddorf.Rhein-Ruhr.De Andre Knoefel Stefan.Breuer2 [at] post.rwth-aachen.de Stefan Breuer wilfried.wiehler [at] mch.sni.de Wilfried Wiehler Gary.Suffield [at] t-online.de Gary Suffield bouvin [at] daimi.aau.dk Niels Olof Bouvin ht.ohlsen [at] ddf.dk Hans-Henrik T. Ohlsen mphelps [at] cfa.harvard.edu Matt Phelps lent [at] callisto.ee.nd.edu Craig S. Lent mark [at] zermatt-ra.swmed.edu Mark Wessels kmmontandon [at] ucdavis.edu Kurt Montandon frank [at] ucla.edu Frank Henriquez oliver [at] astro.ufl.edu John P. Oliver eric [at] marge.extlib.usu.edu Eric Hawley rufinus [at] mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus jshin [at] pantheon.yale.edu Jungshik Shin neastrom [at] arrakis.es Eduardo Perez Ramon.barber [at] vlc.servicom.es Ramon Barber koski [at] clinet.fi Jorma Koski franckey [at] imaginet.fr Franckey Rougane droege [at] fnal.gov Tom Droege mroz [at] lanl.gov Gene Mroz HPBraeuning [at] lbl.gov Harald Braeuning David.I.Nakamoto [at] jpl.nasa.gov David I. Nakamoto jpc [at] drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark gpaleo [at] ath.forthnet.gr G. N. Paleologopoulos bozidar.benc [at] sb.tel.hr Bozidar Benc ariciputi [at] mbox.queen.it Riciputi Andrea mmarzano [at] rmnet.it Marcello Marzano wlawson [at] aa.net William Lawson sidlee [at] agt.net Sid Lee bhill [at] arn.net Robert L Hill asterism [at] worldnet.att.net Michael Toomey hermperez [at] worldnet.att.net Herm Perez JUSTFORJESUS [at] postoffice.worldnet.att.net Charles Gremillion fred [at] eatel.net Frederick J. Barnett Jr. markwain [at] flash.net Mark Wainright jims [at] frontiernet.net Jim Seidewand ellis [at] ftel.net Rick Ellis Daniel.Preineder [at] gmx.net Daniel Preineder smith77 [at] ibm.net John C. Smith iclark [at] infi.net Ivan Clark ebarnes [at] shore.intercom.net Eric Barnes apettit [at] magicnet.net b. alex pettit jr tscar [at] magicnet.net Todd Scarborough tc [at] Mcs.Net Thomas Cuny csand [at] micron.net Cal Sandfort burt [at] netonecom.net Burt Adsit bfrost [at] nyx.net Bonnell Frost lenw [at] oz.net Leonard Westbo, Jr. wakelyn [at] pinn.net N. T. Wakelyn grinch [at] rahul.net Mark Gingrich vpn [at] ricochet.net V Pascal Nelson tomhob [at] ris.net Tom Hobby dmeade [at] slip.net David Meade mhattey [at] fdeltd.win-uk.net Michael Andrew Hattey tplatt [at] starlight.win-uk.net Terence Christopher Platt lustrup [at] online.no Jan Lustrup david [at] home.net.nz David Farrar herr [at] acm.org Joe Herr nospam [at] haar.ddns.org Jan Haar robert_stephens [at] eee.org Robert D. Stephens robotech [at] eyrie.org Christopher E. Meadows hfung [at] lerami.lerctr.org Henry Fung danco [at] pebble.org Dan Cook ekaanhn [at] kkeka.ericsson.se Anders Hansson niklas.netz [at] swipnet.se Niklas Netz weileong [at] singnet.com.sg Tan Wei Leong sft [at] aegis1.demon.co.uk Stephen Tonkin martin [at] chalford.demon.co.uk Martin Coburn prh [at] essence.demon.co.uk Peter Humphrey Martin [at] nezumi.demon.co.uk Martin Tom Brown graham [at] oakside.demon.co.uk Graham Warrellow ian [at] soliton.demon.co.uk Ian Cargill Voting [at] valdena.demon.co.uk AST Chrish [at] easynet.co.uk Chris Heapy nir [at] easynet.co.uk Nir Leuchter rljones [at] netcomuk.co.uk Richard Jones Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ calabres [at] chass.utoronto.ca T.Calabrese Blandp1 [at] aol.com Philip J. Blanda III jrm [at] best.com John R. MacWilliamson stainles [at] bga.com Dwight Brown bob [at] flaminio.com Bob Flaminio olav [at] viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar steiners [at] primenet.com Jason Steiner naddy [at] mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber dirk.gomez [at] sap-ag.de Dirk Gomez clp [at] alumni.caltech.edu Chris L Peterson y-pisan [at] nwu.edu Yusuf Pisan rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller pbern7 [at] earthlink.net Paul Bernhardt marquez [at] pacbell.net Aaron Marquez Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ desiegel [at] aol.com D. E. Siegel cdt [at] audiophile.com Chris Trumbore guymacon [at] deltanet.com [email protected] (Guy Macon) curtis_whalen+usenet [at] geocities.com Curtis [Jewell] Whalen chris [at] kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman mlewis [at] cerberus.swmed.edu Matthew A Lewis jlazio [at] patriot.net Joseph Lazio Invalid votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Harvey [at] connecti.com Harvey Hollister ! Undeliverable address catfish [at] wilhelp.com CJ Carrell ! Undeliverable address walker [at] fizzy.murdoch.edu Elaine Walker ! Undeliverable address PSrRPdOOAeFM [at] ican.net Roderick Darroch Elliott ! Undeliverable address -- Neil Crellin, UVV <[email protected]> From [email protected] Fri Jun 5 10:53:55 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur Subject: RESULT: sci.astro.ccd-imaging passes 133:14 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 00:35:21 GMT Lines: 250 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10154 news.groups:286808 sci.astro:177689 sci.astro.amateur:115036 RESULT unmoderated group sci.astro.ccd-imaging passes 133:14 There were 133 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 147 valid votes. There were 7 abstentions and 4 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital image capture and processing. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Jun 1998. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: B. Alex Pettit Jr. <[email protected]> Votetaker: Neil Crellin <[email protected]> RATIONALE: sci.astro.ccd-imaging Astronomical digital imaging and processing is gaining interest among amateur astronomers. This is due to its ability to effectively see through night sky light pollution, its ability to provide high quality images in less time than film photography, and the increasing availability of less expensive hardware. The creation of a group for the centralization of digital imaging information would encourage and assist others in gaining understanding of this new technology. While there are groups appropriate for the discussion of digital astronomy imaging, there is currently no distinct location for this information. The astronomy related newsgroups sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur have posting volumes exceeding 125 and 240 posts, respectively, per day. The creation of this group would allow for the focus of related postings (currently 5 to 15 per day) to be maintained within this forum and apart from the diverse base of information in the existing newsgroups. CHARTER: sci.astro.ccd-imaging The newsgroup sci.astro.ccd-imaging would be used by those in the astronomy field and hobby to discuss related topics in hardware and software in digital imaging. This would include the techniques and processes related to the acquisition of the digital data, and the processing of that data into digital images or quantitative information. CCD (Charge Coupled Device) is the current digital imaging technology, but it is not intended that this be an imposed discussion topic limitation. Explicitly, it would not be the intended purpose of this newsgroup to be a forum for the posting of image files, but references to their web page links could be included. However, the posting of these image links would be for educative and illustrative purposes only , with information regarding the techniques used to derive and process them included. Commercial posts while not prohibited should be short and pertinent. Binary postings would be prohibited. END CHARTER. sci.astro.ccd-imaging Final Voter list Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ reiki [at] corplink.com.au Gary McKenzie nrm [at] tusc.com.au Nigel McFarlane jasmine [at] fl.net.au Jasmine Taylor terryr [at] cs.mu.oz.au Terry Robison doctor [at] doctor.nl2k.ab.ca Dave Yadallee fbarret [at] ccs.carleton.ca E.S.Fred Barrett chriseb [at] nortel.ca Chris Ebenezer jimjr [at] fareway.on.ca Jim Fare PaulGitto [at] aol.com Paul Gitto kimdv [at] best.com Kim DeVaughn talon1 [at] bigfoot.com Michael Quayle BMH [at] bigpond.com Bevan Harris bitnik [at] bitnik.com Richard Kowalski jce [at] boone.com Joe Ennis adam [at] channel1.com Adam Albino shay [at] controlmanagement.com Shay Walters gherbert [at] crl.com George William Herbert dgeorge [at] cyanogen.com Douglas B. George booda [at] datasync.com Martin H. Booda willp [at] dreamscape.com Will Pierce adriano [at] edmar-co.com Adriano DeFreitas bjv [at] herbison.com B.J. Herbison rubis [at] home.com Randall Rubis lcoe [at] phoenix.rsn.hp.com Loren A. Coe upton [at] austin.ibm.com John Upton jameswat [at] idirect.com James Watt kwenker [at] interaccess.com Kevin Wenker buehlerd [at] itsnet.com David Buehler kstrauss [at] legendcomm.com Ken Strauss william.carbone [at] lmco.com Bill Carbone rhrodieck [at] loop.com Roy Rodieck cipher [at] mindspring.com Cipher peking [at] mindspring.com Pat King johnb [at] regulus.mv.com John Blackwell ksjung [at] ix10.ix.netcom.com Kevin Jung rkuberek [at] ix.netcom.com RCK stevemot [at] ix.netcom.com Steve Mottin tom37 [at] ix.netcom.com Tom Katzman wa2ise [at] netcom.com Robert Casey dcasey [at] primenet.com David Casey jjd [at] primenet.com Jim Davis pcourno1 [at] nycap.rr.com Paul Cournoyer wmcclain [at] salamander.com William McClain clarkegraham [at] saltspring.com Tom Graham Lou.Laderman [at] SERX.COM Louis N. Laderman chris [at] skymap.com Chris Marriott stamper [at] stamper.com Chris Stamper Dave_Durant [at] vos.stratus.com Dave Durant pan [at] syix.com Pan arielle [at] taronga.com Stephanie da Silva dreitman [at] teleport.com Daniel R. Reitman gossj [at] std.teradyne.com Jay Goss bert [at] rsvl.unisys.com Bert Hyman cgrimes [at] walldata.com Chad Grimes xanthian [at] well.com Kent Paul Dolan Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de Ekkehard Uthke aknoefel [at] Disi.Ddorf.Rhein-Ruhr.De Andre Knoefel Stefan.Breuer2 [at] post.rwth-aachen.de Stefan Breuer wilfried.wiehler [at] mch.sni.de Wilfried Wiehler Gary.Suffield [at] t-online.de Gary Suffield bouvin [at] daimi.aau.dk Niels Olof Bouvin ht.ohlsen [at] ddf.dk Hans-Henrik T. Ohlsen mphelps [at] cfa.harvard.edu Matt Phelps lent [at] callisto.ee.nd.edu Craig S. Lent mark [at] zermatt-ra.swmed.edu Mark Wessels kmmontandon [at] ucdavis.edu Kurt Montandon frank [at] ucla.edu Frank Henriquez oliver [at] astro.ufl.edu John P. Oliver eric [at] marge.extlib.usu.edu Eric Hawley rufinus [at] mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus jshin [at] pantheon.yale.edu Jungshik Shin neastrom [at] arrakis.es Eduardo Perez Ramon.barber [at] vlc.servicom.es Ramon Barber koski [at] clinet.fi Jorma Koski franckey [at] imaginet.fr Franckey Rougane droege [at] fnal.gov Tom Droege mroz [at] lanl.gov Gene Mroz HPBraeuning [at] lbl.gov Harald Braeuning David.I.Nakamoto [at] jpl.nasa.gov David I. Nakamoto jpc [at] drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark gpaleo [at] ath.forthnet.gr G. N. Paleologopoulos bozidar.benc [at] sb.tel.hr Bozidar Benc ariciputi [at] mbox.queen.it Riciputi Andrea mmarzano [at] rmnet.it Marcello Marzano wlawson [at] aa.net William Lawson sidlee [at] agt.net Sid Lee bhill [at] arn.net Robert L Hill asterism [at] worldnet.att.net Michael Toomey hermperez [at] worldnet.att.net Herm Perez JUSTFORJESUS [at] postoffice.worldnet.att.net Charles Gremillion fred [at] eatel.net Frederick J. Barnett Jr. markwain [at] flash.net Mark Wainright jims [at] frontiernet.net Jim Seidewand ellis [at] ftel.net Rick Ellis Daniel.Preineder [at] gmx.net Daniel Preineder smith77 [at] ibm.net John C. Smith iclark [at] infi.net Ivan Clark ebarnes [at] shore.intercom.net Eric Barnes apettit [at] magicnet.net b. alex pettit jr tscar [at] magicnet.net Todd Scarborough tc [at] Mcs.Net Thomas Cuny csand [at] micron.net Cal Sandfort burt [at] netonecom.net Burt Adsit bfrost [at] nyx.net Bonnell Frost lenw [at] oz.net Leonard Westbo, Jr. wakelyn [at] pinn.net N. T. Wakelyn grinch [at] rahul.net Mark Gingrich vpn [at] ricochet.net V Pascal Nelson tomhob [at] ris.net Tom Hobby dmeade [at] slip.net David Meade mhattey [at] fdeltd.win-uk.net Michael Andrew Hattey tplatt [at] starlight.win-uk.net Terence Christopher Platt lustrup [at] online.no Jan Lustrup david [at] home.net.nz David Farrar herr [at] acm.org Joe Herr nospam [at] haar.ddns.org Jan Haar robert_stephens [at] eee.org Robert D. Stephens robotech [at] eyrie.org Christopher E. Meadows hfung [at] lerami.lerctr.org Henry Fung danco [at] pebble.org Dan Cook ekaanhn [at] kkeka.ericsson.se Anders Hansson niklas.netz [at] swipnet.se Niklas Netz weileong [at] singnet.com.sg Tan Wei Leong sft [at] aegis1.demon.co.uk Stephen Tonkin martin [at] chalford.demon.co.uk Martin Coburn prh [at] essence.demon.co.uk Peter Humphrey Martin [at] nezumi.demon.co.uk Martin Tom Brown graham [at] oakside.demon.co.uk Graham Warrellow ian [at] soliton.demon.co.uk Ian Cargill Voting [at] valdena.demon.co.uk AST Chrish [at] easynet.co.uk Chris Heapy nir [at] easynet.co.uk Nir Leuchter rljones [at] netcomuk.co.uk Richard Jones Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ calabres [at] chass.utoronto.ca T.Calabrese Blandp1 [at] aol.com Philip J. Blanda III jrm [at] best.com John R. MacWilliamson stainles [at] bga.com Dwight Brown bob [at] flaminio.com Bob Flaminio olav [at] viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar steiners [at] primenet.com Jason Steiner naddy [at] mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber dirk.gomez [at] sap-ag.de Dirk Gomez clp [at] alumni.caltech.edu Chris L Peterson y-pisan [at] nwu.edu Yusuf Pisan rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller pbern7 [at] earthlink.net Paul Bernhardt marquez [at] pacbell.net Aaron Marquez Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ desiegel [at] aol.com D. E. Siegel cdt [at] audiophile.com Chris Trumbore guymacon [at] deltanet.com [email protected] (Guy Macon) curtis_whalen+usenet [at] geocities.com Curtis [Jewell] Whalen chris [at] kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman mlewis [at] cerberus.swmed.edu Matthew A Lewis jlazio [at] patriot.net Joseph Lazio Invalid votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Harvey [at] connecti.com Harvey Hollister ! Undeliverable address catfish [at] wilhelp.com CJ Carrell ! Undeliverable address walker [at] fizzy.murdoch.edu Elaine Walker ! Undeliverable address PSrRPdOOAeFM [at] ican.net Roderick Darroch Elliott ! Undeliverable address -- Neil Crellin, UVV <[email protected]>
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