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From [email protected] Tue Sep 19 13:17:02 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: "bill bren" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.polymers,sci.engr.lighting,sci.research,sci.engr.chem Subject: RFD: sci.chem.coatings Followup-To: news.groups Date: 19 Sep 1995 17:16:55 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 80 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.chem.coatings Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7525 news.groups:167702 sci.chem:50760 sci.polymers:4569 sci.engr.lighting:2945 sci.research:10627 sci.engr.chem:10363                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)                  unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings  Proponents: Bill Bren <[email protected]>             Mike Lazar <[email protected]>  Newsgroups line: sci.chem.coatings	Paints and coatings technology.  RATIONALE: sci.chem.coatings  Currently there is no one place to handle traffic specifically for the discussion of Paints and Coatings.  Postings to the sci.chem group get easily lost among the 50 to 100 daily postings.  Postings to the more manageable sci.polymers (about 10/day) are inappropriate when the discussion involves coatings issues not related to polymers.  CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings  A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of paints and coatings technology.  Anyone interested will be welcome to join in the discussion about, but not limited to:  -       Polymeric coating resins -       Pigments -       Coatings additives -       Coatings solvents -       Powder coatings -       Professional societies and conferences -       Application techniques for paints and coatings -       Regulatory issues affecting coatings -       Sales and Marketing issues -       Manufacturing of paints -       Packaging and transportation of coatings materials -       Employment opportunities within the coatings industry -       Educational and research resources -       Surface Color  The discussion will be held in English.  FAQ's should be developed for specific areas of interest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for users may or may not receive a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the news group is to assist coatings practitioners in their craft with a free flowing discussion of current coatings technology.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This RFD has been posted in accordance with "Guidelines for Usenet Newsgroup Creation" by Greg Woods, David C. Lawrence and Gene Spafford.  After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if no serious objections are raised, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued to the same groups in which this notice appears.  The vote will be tabulated by a neutral third party, who will be selected by the established process.  The voting period will be no less than 21 days.  A successful vote requires that at least 100 more votes are cast for the creation than against, with an overall majority of 2/3 for creation. If both these conditions are met the new group will be announced as soon as practical thereafter.  FINAL WORDS:  Discussion should take place *ONLY* in news.groups.  If you do not normally follow news.groups you should do so for the duration of this RFD.  This is not a Call for Votes.  Please do not cast a vote now.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD will be cross posted to the following groups:  news.announce.newgroups news.groups sci.chem sci.polymers sci.engr.lighting sci.research sci.engr.chem  From [email protected] Fri Nov  3 15:14:06 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Kenneth Herron <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.lighting,sci.polymers,sci.research Subject: CFV: sci.chem.coatings Followup-To: poster Date: 3 Nov 1995 20:14:02 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 114 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 25 Nov 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.chem.coatings Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7816 news.groups:172542 sci.chem:54530 sci.engr.chem:11340 sci.engr.lighting:3273 sci.polymers:5176 sci.research:10979                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                  unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings  Newsgroups line: sci.chem.coatings	Paints and Coatings practitioners.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 24 Nov 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about this proposal should be directed to the proponents.  Proponent: Bill Bren <[email protected]> Proponent: Mike Lazar <[email protected]> Votetaker: Kenneth Herron <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: sci.chem.coatings  Currently there is no one place to handle traffic specifically for the discussion of Paints and Coatings.  Postings to the sci.chem group get easily lost among the 50 t0 100 daily postings.  Postings to the more manageable sci.polymers (about 10/day) are inappropriate when the discussion involves coatings issues not related to polymers.  CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings  A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of paints and coatings technology.  Anyone intrested will be welcome to join in the discussion about, but not limited to:  	-	Polymeric coating resins 	-	Pigments 	-	Coatings additives 	-	Coatings solvents 	-	Powder coatings 	-	Professional societies and conferences 	-	Application techniques for paints and coatings 	-	Regulatory issues effecting coatings 	-	Sales and Marketing issues 	-	Manufacturing of paints 	-	Packaging and transportation of coatings materials. 	-	Employment opportunities within the coatings industry 	-	Educational and research resources 	-	Surface Color  The discussion will be held in english.  FAQ's should be developed for specific areas of intrest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for paint users may or may not get a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the news group is to assist coatings practitioners in there craft with a free flowing discussion of current coatings technology.  END CHARTER.  HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names.  Give your name on the line that asks for it.  For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then send via e-mail to:  [email protected]  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines -=-=-=-=-=- sci.chem.coatings Ballot  (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here->    Your Vote   Group -----------------------------------------------------------------  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention   [         ]  CREATE sci.chem.coatings -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines -=-=-=-=-=-  VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.   DISTRIBUTION:  This Call for votes is being posted to the following newsgroups:  	news.announce.newgroups  news.groups 	sci.chem                 sci.engr.chem 	sci.engr.lighting        sci.polymers 	sci.research  From [email protected] Mon Nov 13 13:31:43 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Kenneth Herron <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.lighting,sci.polymers,sci.research Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.chem.coatings Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 13 Nov 1995 18:31:37 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 124 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 25 Nov 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.chem.coatings Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7850 news.groups:173788 sci.chem:55144 sci.engr.chem:11530 sci.engr.lighting:3336 sci.polymers:5298 sci.research:11056                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                  unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings  Newsgroups line: sci.chem.coatings	Paints and Coatings practitioners.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 24 Nov 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about this proposal should be directed to the proponents.  Proponent: Bill Bren <[email protected]> Proponent: Mike Lazar <[email protected]> Votetaker: Kenneth Herron <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: sci.chem.coatings  Currently there is no one place to handle traffic specifically for the discussion of Paints and Coatings.  Postings to the sci.chem group get easily lost among the 50 t0 100 daily postings.  Postings to the more manageable sci.polymers (about 10/day) are inappropriate when the discussion involves coatings issues not related to polymers.  CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings  A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of paints and coatings technology.  Anyone intrested will be welcome to join in the discussion about, but not limited to:  	-	Polymeric coating resins 	-	Pigments 	-	Coatings additives 	-	Coatings solvents 	-	Powder coatings 	-	Professional societies and conferences 	-	Application techniques for paints and coatings 	-	Regulatory issues effecting coatings 	-	Sales and Marketing issues 	-	Manufacturing of paints 	-	Packaging and transportation of coatings materials. 	-	Employment opportunities within the coatings industry 	-	Educational and research resources 	-	Surface Color  The discussion will be held in english.  FAQ's should be developed for specific areas of intrest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for paint users may or may not get a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the news group is to assist coatings practitioners in there craft with a free flowing discussion of current coatings technology.  END CHARTER.  HOW TO VOTE  Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names.  Give your name on the line that asks for it.  For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then send via e-mail to:  [email protected]  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines -=-=-=-=-=- sci.chem.coatings Ballot  (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here->    Your Vote   Group -----------------------------------------------------------------  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention   [         ]  CREATE sci.chem.coatings -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines -=-=-=-=-=-  VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.   sci.chem.coatings Acknowledgement Bounce List No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No bounced acknowledgments at this time  Invalid ballots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No invalid ballots at this time.   DISTRIBUTION:  This Call for votes is being posted to the following newsgroups:  	news.announce.newgroups  news.groups 	sci.chem                 sci.engr.chem 	sci.engr.lighting        sci.polymers 	sci.research  From [email protected] Mon Nov 27 09:00:33 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Kenneth Herron <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.engr.chem,sci.engr.lighting,sci.polymers,sci.research Subject: RESULT: sci.chem.coatings passes 142:16 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 27 Nov 1995 09:00:25 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 236 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.chem.coatings Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7937 news.groups:176277 sci.chem:56034 sci.engr.chem:11763 sci.engr.lighting:3429 sci.polymers:5517 sci.research:11156                                  RESULT           unmoderated group sci.chem.coatings passes 142:16  sci.chem.coatings results - 158 valid votes   Yes  No  | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group ---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------  142   16 | Yes  Yes |  Yes | sci.chem.coatings    2 abstaining votes and 3 invalid ballots  A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.  Newsgroups line: sci.chem.coatings	Paints and Coatings practitioners.  Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 24 Nov 1995.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about this proposal should be directed to the proponents.  Proponent: Bill Bren <[email protected]> Proponent: Mike Lazar <[email protected]> Votetaker: Kenneth Herron <[email protected]>  CHARTER: sci.chem.coatings  A newsgroup to promote the exchange of ideas and discussion of issues of paints and coatings technology.  Anyone intrested will be welcome to join in the discussion about, but not limited to:  	-	Polymeric coating resins 	-	Pigments 	-	Coatings additives 	-	Coatings solvents 	-	Powder coatings 	-	Professional societies and conferences 	-	Application techniques for paints and coatings 	-	Regulatory issues effecting coatings 	-	Sales and Marketing issues 	-	Manufacturing of paints 	-	Packaging and transportation of coatings materials. 	-	Employment opportunities within the coatings industry 	-	Educational and research resources 	-	Surface Color  The discussion will be held in english.  FAQ's should be developed for specific areas of intrest and will be updated periodically.  Commercial announcements are not permitted as this news group is not intended to be a marketplace.  Although coatings questions for paint users may or may not get a response, they are permitted.  The ultimate objective of the news group is to assist coatings practitioners in there craft with a free flowing discussion of current coatings technology.  END CHARTER.  sci.chem.coatings Final Voter list  Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                            Grant Nicmanis [email protected]                                          Lachlan Cranswick [email protected]                                             Wouter HAGENS [email protected]                                             michal (m.s.) tencer [email protected]                                                     T. Copeland [email protected]                                   Nickolay V. Golego [email protected]                                                scott holman [email protected]                       [email protected] [email protected]                                    Jianrong Feng [email protected]                                             Gary S. Kovener [email protected]                                                  Paul Koning [email protected]                                                William H. Frye [email protected]                                              John W. Schultz [email protected]                                                 David Sherman [email protected]                                          Danny Lee Barrickman [email protected]                                            Donald R. Roberts [email protected]                                Glen Morehead  <[email protected]> [email protected]                                             Robert F. Sergen [email protected]                                               Samuel P. Morell [email protected]                                       Sherri L. Bassner [email protected]                                              Richard Bott [email protected]                                         Jose A. Briones [email protected]                                Frank J Kenny [email protected]                                             David Rigby [email protected]                                         B. E. Eichinger [email protected]                                                  Dana Honeycutt [email protected]                                               Stephen J. Mumby [email protected]                                         Marshall Dudley [email protected]                                                     Ron McGuire [email protected]                                                      Dave Cell [email protected]                                                 Bill Dawes [email protected]                     Patrick J. Coyle [email protected]                                        James D. Cloyd [email protected]                                                    Adam Glass [email protected]                                      J. Crowther [email protected]                                    Robert F. Drury [email protected]                                     Brian Devlin [email protected]                                          Dr. Barry L. Ornitz [email protected]                                      Delano R Eslinger [email protected]                                                   Mark Lewis [email protected]                                            Craig F. Taylor [email protected]                                                 Jack Schmidt [email protected]                                             Gordon Krofchick [email protected]                                David A. Burgett [email protected]                     Jeff Watson, Custom Chemicals of Texas [email protected]                                                    Carl Wright [email protected]                                         Thomas Jellinek [email protected]                                                 Trudy Ricker [email protected]                                             Alan G. Welsh [email protected]                                              Elliot Burke [email protected]                                                    Bai Xu [email protected]                        todd warth <[email protected]> [email protected]                                           William F. Morgan [email protected]                                               Bill Bayard [email protected]                                               Kim DeVaughn [email protected]                                                   Scott Benton [email protected]                                                Rick Griffin [email protected]                                                 Martha Bren [email protected]                                               Bill Bren [email protected]                                             David Schneider [email protected]                                 Marla deLombard-Watts [email protected]                                           Paul Martin [email protected]                                     Richard T. Brewer [email protected]                                Carl P. Hemenway [email protected]                         Dr. Carleton J. Barbour [email protected]                               Edward J. Schaller [email protected]                                  Greg J. Falcione [email protected]                                      John R Reffner [email protected]                                  John W. Hook, III [email protected]                                  Keith A Alderfer [email protected]                                           Michael P. James [email protected]                                              David G. Kelly [email protected]                           William H. Elfring [email protected]                                                  Don Purinton [email protected]                                                   Nina Sandlin [email protected]                         Dr. Peter Reynders [email protected]                           Dr. Bernhard Wessling [email protected]                                                        Ben Elkin [email protected]                                    Peter Fackelmann [email protected]                                   Martin Schr"oder [email protected]                                  Christoph Irle [email protected]                                 Dr. Klaus Littmann [email protected]                              Todd C. Lawson [email protected]                                                Chris Stamper [email protected]                                       Charles E. Carroll [email protected]                                         Keith M. Petschke [email protected]                                             Timothy Wheeler [email protected]                                                    John Bullough [email protected]                                     William J. Bayard [email protected]                                       Jeffrey J. Weimer [email protected]                                            Michael W. Daniels [email protected]                                     M. E. Nichols [email protected]                                      Garth D. Brown [email protected]                                              Nantana Jiratumnukul [email protected]                                               James O. Stoffer [email protected]                                              Kiarash Shooshtari [email protected]                                                    Nicole R Mason [email protected]                                             William L. Dechent [email protected]                                Bhaskar Gopalanarayanan [email protected]                                           Tom Branham [email protected]                                             J. Rufinus [email protected]                                     TURGIS Jean-Dominique [email protected]                                        Chris Zuiker [email protected]                                              Ivan Clark [email protected]                                      Vladimir Hinich [email protected]                                           Enrico Vignudelli [email protected] [email protected]                                               Eng-Soon, Teoh [email protected]                                            Kerry Jane Dunavant [email protected]                                                 Don Burger [email protected]                                    Brian D. Webb, [email protected] [email protected]                                                    Luc DeBecker [email protected]                                                    Dave Kapp [email protected]                                                  N. T. Wakelyn [email protected]                                                    Harm Jellema [email protected]                                    Miles Blount [email protected]                                            Tom Upshaw [email protected]                                                Brian Bresnahan [email protected]                                                      Don Green [email protected]                          Maarten van Helden [email protected]                                            Michael Staines [email protected]                                             Jim Oliver [email protected]                                                  Gaetan Campeau [email protected]                                                    Trevor Tymchuk [email protected]                                                Hans Malmberg [email protected]                                          Thierry Glauser [email protected]                                            Maria Torvad [email protected]                                         Edgar  Mommers [email protected]                                            Gunnar Str [email protected]                                    Chaveng Pakawatchai [email protected]                                             Simon J.A. Williams [email protected]                                         Steven Abbott [email protected]                                             Ken Irving [email protected]                                     RICHARD CAYLESS [email protected]                                           Peter Smith [email protected]                                         Robert Totman [email protected]                                               Daniel Bode [email protected]                                          Daniel Dukeson [email protected]                                           dave carter [email protected]                                Jacquin Wilford-Brown [email protected]                                               S. Elliott  Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                       Jan Coekelberghs [email protected]                                               Kevin Mitchell [email protected]                                                   Dwight Brown [email protected]                                      John R. MacWilliamson [email protected]                                        G. Patrick Ryan [email protected]                                            Patrick J. LoPresti [email protected]                                                 Richard Miller [email protected]                                               Ho-Leung Ng [email protected]                                                 Lance Chun [email protected]                                                    Una Smith [email protected]                                          Risto Widenius [email protected]                                                    Dan Birchall [email protected]                                              Don Kiely [email protected]                                                Michiel Wijers [email protected]                                              Cato Brede [email protected]                                           Jim Maddison  Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                      K. Crouch [email protected]                                                  M Mike Taksar  Invalid ballots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                                jhron     ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                                     Wilson Lau     ! No vote statement in message [email protected]     ! No vote statement in message 
 
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