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From [email protected] Thu Jul 30 16:49:32 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2583 news.groups:54850 sci.virtual-worlds:4785 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.virtual-worlds Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Robert Jacobson <[email protected]> Subject: RFD: sci.virtual-worlds.apps Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:24:37 GMT Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Lines: 55  SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS -----------------------  This is a Request for Discussion concerning a proposed newsgroup,                      sci.virtual-worlds.apps  for the discussion of pending and actual applications of virtual worlds technology in industrial, commercial, educational, and entertainment settings.  Calling for the creation of this newsgroup are the founders and current moderators of sci.virtual-worlds, Bob Jacobson and Mark De Loura.  For over 18 months we have presided over the increasingly complex and useful dialogues that have taken place on sci.v-w.  It's our opinion that the conversations there are now varied enough to merit the spinning off of a second newsgroup dedicated to actual applications of the technology.  According to surveys, nearly 2% of USENET's millions of readers tune in at least occasionally.  This diverse population of interest can support more than one newsgroup.  In the past, mailing lists have formed to handle such specific topics as software requirements for headsets and gloves, but we foresee a larger need: the chance to publicly announce and discuss applications of virtual worlds technology.  This will provide a kickstart to our industry and help us to keep directed toward serving the public and the market, rather than becoming inward-turned, all research and self- preoccupation.  sci.virtual-worlds will continue to be sponsored by the HIT Lab.  It's our belief that s.v-w should continue as a general forum for our community, perhaps one more focused on cutting edge research and philosophical issues.  These are still very important.  However, this will be the prerogative of the new moderators and the participants.  sci.virtual-worlds.apps will be a place to take these discussions one step farther, into the domain of serious applications.  We will have a two-week open period of debate and comment on this proposal, in sci.virtual-worlds, on the WELL, and in the traditional forum of news.announce.newgroups.  Then we will call for a formal vote.  If there is a net positive vote of 100 participants, we will create sci.virtual-worlds.apps and announce its formation to you.  Thank you for considering this proposal.  We believe it is necessary for a newsgroup to exist in which to advance the state of our art through the discussion of applications and their economic, commercial, and social implication.  We welcome your comments and support. --  Bob Jacobson			Mark De Loura Moderator			Co-Moderator [email protected]	[email protected] [email protected]		[email protected]  From [email protected] Thu Aug 20 10:09:08 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2640 news.groups:55613 sci.virtual-worlds:5018 comp.human-factors:2547 comp.graphics.visualization:2252 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.virtual-worlds,comp.human-factors,comp.graphics.visualization,alt.cyberspace. Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Robert Jacobson) Subject: CFV: sci.virtual-worlds.apps Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:44:03 GMT Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Lines: 53  ------------------------------------------- 1st CALL FOR VOTE:  SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS -------------------------------------------  Several weeks ago, sci.virtual-worlds moderator, Bob Jacobson, and co-moderator, Mark De Loura, posted a CFD to discuss a new newsgroup, sci.virtual-worlds.apps .  This new newsgroup would focus on current and forthcoming uses of virtual-worlds technology ("virtual reality"). It would be moderated by Jacobson and De Loura, who would hand over moderatorship of sci.virtual-worlds to new moderators selected by that newsgroup's sponsor, the HIT Lab at the Washington Technology Center.  The comments we received were unanimously supportive of this new newsgroup.  There were no suggestions for modifications (although additional segmentations of sci.virtual-worlds were recommended).  Accordingly, we are now calling for a vote.  The vote will continue for 30 days; votes should be sent before 23:59 GMT, 19 September 1992.  To vote on the creation of sci.virtual-worlds: ----------------------------------------------  1.  Send all votes to:   		[email protected]   2.  You can do this by replying to this message or sending email     directly to the account.  3.  If you are replying to this message, the header will      automatically indicate the topic.  If you are sending email     directly to the cyberoid account, put SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS      in the "Subject:" field.  4.  For a positive vote, in the message field type:  YES.  5.  For a negative vote, in the message field type:  NO.  6.  Send nothing else in the message field, with the exception of     your full name and/or site if it does not already appear in      your usual email header.  This message is being posted to news.groups, sci.virtual-worlds, comp.human-factors, comp.simulation, comp.graphics.visualization, and alt.cyberspace.  It will also appear on The WELL and may be forwarded to CompuServe and GEnie.  Thank you for your vote. --  Bob Jacobson			Mark De Loura Moderator			Co-Moderator sci.virtual-worlds		sci.virtual-worlds [email protected]	[email protected]  From [email protected] Mon Sep 21 10:53:40 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2752 news.groups:56827 sci.virtual-worlds:5302 comp.human-factors:3004 comp.graphics.visualization:2392 alt.cyberspace:830 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.virtual-worlds,comp.human-factors,comp.graphics.visualization,alt.cyberspace Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Robert Jacobson) Subject: RESULT: sci.virtual-worlds.apps passes 133:8 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1992 14:29:59 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 269  The vote on sci.virtual-worlds.apps has closed.  The vote was 133 in favor, 8 opposed, 9 invalid yes votes, and 1 invalid no vote (due to incomplete voter identification).  The actual polls follow below.  Two days ago, prior to the close of the vote, Bob Jacobson, one of the proposers, inadvertently sent a notice, intended for the moderator of this newsgroup, to news.groups (an unmoderated newsgroup).  This notice indicated that the newsgroup was passing by a substantial margin (Bob estimated 140-7, based on mail volume) and asked the moderator how Bob should handle the closing of the vote since Bob was leaving town.  Several persons caught this anomaly and called it to Bob's atten- tion.  Technically, posting a vote tally prior to the closing of a vote is a violation of the USENET guidelines, because it can be used to hype a favorable vote if the tally is insufficient for creating a new newsgroup.  However, in this case, there was no motive for my intentionally violating the guidelines -- the newsgroup was winning its vote handily.  In fact, all of the remaining votes that came in after Bob's mistaken posting were opposed to forming the newsgroup. (I immediately cancelled the posting as soon as it was brought to my attention.)  Commonsense says that an error made accidentally that has no material effect on the outcome of a vote should not invalidate the vote.  In fact, all of the persons but one who noted my error were quite forgiving of the situation.  Now we are appealing to the net community to approve the formation of sci.v-w.  apps.  We have a host computer dedicated to its operation, five co-moderators around the world ready to provide its participants with up-to-date information about a fast-growing industry of some importance -- and above all, the votes of more than 133 concerned USENET users FOR the creation of the newsgroup, against the 8 (or 9) who oppose it.  If we have to do this over, we will, but at considerable expense in bandwidth and LOTS of personal time and effort on the part of the proposers, the voters, and the net itself.  Thanks for your thoughts. We hope we can get on with satisfying the obvious demand for this newsgroup.  Sincerely,  Bob Jacobson			Mark De Loura Moderator			Co-Moderator sci.virtual-worlds		sci.virtual-worlds  and  Proposer			Co-Proposer sci.virtual-worlds.apps		sci.virtual-worlds.apps   [[ I am of the opinion that the result should stand.  Bob's error did    not notably influence the outcome of the poll, which is why that    particular clause was put in the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation.    Comments about this should be sent to [email protected] within the    next five days.     It should be noted that in his desire to conform to the Guidelines,    Bob has decided to not counted several votes which were absent full    names, despite the fact that traditionally they have been accepted.    If they were to be counted, then the group passes by an even wider    margin.                                         -- tale ]]  133 Yes Votes ------------- Mark Pesce <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Roland Piquepaille) Mark Henry <[email protected]> [email protected]  "Timothy J. Anderson" <[email protected]> Dave Stampe-Psy+Eng <[email protected]> [email protected] (Peter Santangeli) [email protected] (Tom Meyer) Tom Hargadon <[email protected]> Stephen Foy <[email protected]> [email protected] avi bar-zeev <[email protected]> Michael Almquist <[email protected]> Neil A Haldar <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Lau-Kee) [email protected] (Stephen Flinter) [email protected] (Ron Currier - Sun BOS) [email protected] (Harrison Cooper) John Eagan <76130.2225%[email protected]> Mark Takas <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Hendrix) [email protected] (Eric Van Hensbergen) [email protected] (Peter Vamplew) Kenny Meyer <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tony Johnston) German W Bauer <[email protected]> "Diglio A. Simoni" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Chris Hanson) [email protected] (Chet Dagit) Robert Marsanyi <[email protected]> [email protected] (Yin-kheong Chee) Hanno Wirth <[email protected]> [email protected] (Gurminder Singh) Michael Snoswell <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Omar Loggiodice) Per Soderlind <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (David L Wood) [email protected] (Bob Pendelton) [email protected] (David Barberi) [email protected] (MR SD BANGAY) [email protected] (Mike Mailander) Lauri Valsta <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jan Robert Johnsen)  [email protected] (Martin Forssen) Paolo Bernardelli <[email protected]> [email protected] (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer) [email protected] (Frank Crowell) [email protected] (Artur Vale Serrano) "Robbin R. Hough" <[email protected]> Michael Robb <[email protected]> Jack Taylor <[email protected]> [email protected] (Diego Montefusco) [email protected] (Dave Machin) [email protected] (Ross J. Toedte) [email protected] (Andreas Tabbert) Matt J. Lavoie <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Mark Shanks) Stephen Palm [email protected]> Caius Tenche <[email protected]> Amitabh Varshney <[email protected]> [email protected] (Dawn Friedman) Lew Hitchner <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jeremiah Blatz) [email protected] (D.W. Filiatrault) [email protected] (McEWAN Shane) "Michael L. Kaufman" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Stephen [Steve] Smoot) [email protected] (Eugene N. Miya) Michael A Cecere <[email protected]> matwood%[email protected] (Mark Atwood) Daniel R. Duncan <[email protected]> Carl Loeffler <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (M. Wolf) [email protected] (Michael Rygol) [email protected] (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay) [email protected] (Joel Plutchak) Robert Jacobson <[email protected]> Dave Tonnesen <[email protected]> [email protected] (Joseph C. Potts) [email protected] (Nick England - Sun NC Development Center) Robert L. Miller <[email protected]> [email protected] (Joe Steger) [email protected] (Alan Wexelblat) [email protected] (Tom F Portante) Jeff James <[email protected]> La Monte Yarroll <[email protected]> [email protected] (Kim DeVaughn) Anthony Edward Winfield <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mitch Silverman) "Sam Hill Cabal, DS" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Oren J. Tversky) [email protected] (Geoff Thomas) Po Shan Cheah <[email protected]> [email protected] (Julius Etzl) [email protected] (Fergal O'Sullivan) [email protected] (Fred Sistler) [email protected] (Frank C. Christofferson) [email protected] (Magnus Holmberg) [email protected] (Carwil James) Chris Shaw <[email protected]> [email protected] (John F. Whitehead) [email protected] (Doug Girling) [email protected] (C. Lee) Miron Cuperman <[email protected]> [email protected] (Glenn Farley) [email protected] (Sascha Wildner) [email protected] (David Hamann) [email protected] (Jorgen Gustafsson) [email protected] (Andy Rose) [email protected] (Pete Akerson - akerson%[email protected]) [email protected] (Steve Smythe PSE) [email protected] (Charlie Lindahl) impmh!dsg (Dave Gordon) Rick Shrum <[email protected]> B.J. Herbison <[email protected]> Jason Asbahr <[email protected]> [email protected] (Dan Olson) Wolfgang Roehrig <[email protected]> [email protected] (John E. Mendenhall) "Vivien Hannon, UCIS" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Scott Hoge) [email protected] (Marcus Brown) "Sean Fuller c60201 5312" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Susan Mandel) Robert Campanell <[email protected]> [email protected] (Hidekazu Kakei) Bill Farmer <[email protected]> Maria Rudolph <[email protected]>   8 Valid No Votes ---------------- [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (david pratt) [email protected] (Peter da Silva) [email protected] (Murray Nesbitt) Marc Moorcroft <[email protected]> [email protected] (J.D. Baldwin) [email protected] (Duckie Shiau) John Stanley <[email protected]>    9 Invalid Yes Votes (Lack of Full Name) ----------------------------------- "[email protected]"  [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]* [email protected] [email protected] (Tools) [email protected] (Myself)  <[email protected]>   * This is magick's actual last name, but in case anyone was    concerned, I have noted it as an invalid vote.   1 Invalid No Vote (Lack of Full Name) -------------------------------------  [email protected] (A Citizen of The World)                                       From [email protected] Mon Sep 28 11:13:05 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2778 news.groups:57054 sci.virtual-worlds:5362 comp.human-factors:3062 comp.graphics.visualization:2420 alt.cyberspace:831 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.virtual-worlds,comp.human-factors,comp.graphics.visualization,alt.cyberspace Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Robert Jacobson) Subject: CFV: sci.virtual-worlds.apps Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:55:41 GMT Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Lines: 80  ------------------------------------------- 1st CALL FOR REVOTE:  SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS -------------------------------------------  Many weeks ago, we (sci.virtual-worlds moderator, Bob Jacobson, and co-moderator, Mark De Loura) posted a CFD to discuss a new newsgroup, sci.virtual-worlds.apps, to focus on actual current and forthcoming uses of virtual-worlds technology ("virtual reality").  We would moderate the new newsgroup and hand over moderatorship of sci.virtual-worlds to new moderators selected by s.v-w's sponsor, the HIT Lab at the Washington Technology Center/UW.  The comments we received were unanimously supportive of this new newsgroup.  There were no suggestions for modifications (although additional segmentations of sci.virtual-worlds were recommended).  Accordingly, we called for a vote.    Unfortunately, although there was the necessary support to create the newsgroup, I (Bob) on the last day of voting inadvertently revealed the tally of the vote in progress.  According to USENET guidelines, this invalidates the vote.  I'm sorry for this.  We could have proceeded to serve you more quickly, but a few vocal USENET users objected that this would defeat the guidelines.  Rather than permitting more bandwidth and time to be consumed in flames, we're asking for a revote.  Here's how to vote....  		      *************************  In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail message to the address  	[email protected]  If your site does not understand that address, you might try:  	[email protected]@athena.mit.edu 	mit-athena!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server 	uunet!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server  If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can help you address the mail properly.  Posted votes will not be counted. Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted.  Your mail should contain one of the following three lines, either in the Subject or body of the mail message:  	vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps yes 	vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps no 	vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps abstain  The first two lines register a vote either for or against the creation of the newsgroup.  The third line cancels any previous vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup.  Multiple voting messages from the same person must be sent from the same address.  If multiple votes are received from the same person, the last vote received is the only one counted.  You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its receipt, within two days.  If you do not, or if you have some other problem with voting, you can get help by sending mail to  	[email protected]  All votes must be received by Tue, Oct 19 18:00 GMT.  		      *************************  This message is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, sci.virtual-worlds, comp.human-factors, comp.simulation, comp.graphics.visualization, and alt.cyberspace.  It will also appear on The WELL and will be forwarded to CompuServe and GEnie.  Thank you for your vote. --  Bob Jacobson			Mark De Loura Moderator			Co-Moderator sci.virtual-worlds		sci.virtual-worlds [email protected]	[email protected]  From [email protected] Mon Oct 12 13:08:03 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2819 news.groups:57697 sci.virtual-worlds:5503 comp.human-factors:3156 comp.graphics.visualization:2515 alt.cyberspace:873 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.virtual-worlds,comp.human-factors,comp.graphics.visualization,alt.cyberspace Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Robert Jacobson) Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.virtual-worlds.apps Followup-To: poster Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:07:13 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 80  ------------------------------------------- 2nd CALL FOR REVOTE:  SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS -------------------------------------------  Many weeks ago, we (sci.virtual-worlds moderator, Bob Jacobson, and co-moderator, Mark De Loura) posted a CFD to discuss a new newsgroup, sci.virtual-worlds.apps, to focus on actual current and forthcoming uses of virtual-worlds technology ("virtual reality").  We would moderate the new newsgroup and hand over moderatorship of sci.virtual-worlds to new moderators selected by s.v-w's sponsor, the HIT Lab at the Washington Technology Center/UW.  The comments we received were unanimously supportive of this new newsgroup.  There were no suggestions for modifications (although additional segmentations of sci.virtual-worlds were recommended).  Accordingly, we called for a vote.    Unfortunately, although there was the necessary support to create the newsgroup, I (Bob) on the last day of voting inadvertently revealed the tally of the vote in progress.  According to USENET guidelines, this invalidates the vote.  I'm sorry for this.  We could have proceeded to serve you more quickly, but a few vocal USENET users objected that this would defeat the guidelines.  Rather than permitting more bandwidth and time to be consumed in flames, we're asking for a revote.  Here's how to vote....  		      *************************  In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail message to the address  	[email protected]  If your site does not understand that address, you might try:  	[email protected]@athena.mit.edu 	mit-athena!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server 	uunet!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server  If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can help you address the mail properly.  Posted votes will not be counted. Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted.  Your mail should contain one of the following three lines, either in the Subject or body of the mail message:  	vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps yes 	vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps no 	vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps abstain  The first two lines register a vote either for or against the creation of the newsgroup.  The third line cancels any previous vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup.  Multiple voting messages from the same person must be sent from the same address.  If multiple votes are received from the same person, the last vote received is the only one counted.  You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its receipt, within two days.  If you do not, or if you have some other problem with voting, you can get help by sending mail to  	[email protected]  All votes must be received by Tue, Oct 19 18:00 GMT.  		      *************************  This message is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, sci.virtual-worlds, comp.human-factors, comp.simulation, comp.graphics.visualization, and alt.cyberspace.  It will also appear on The WELL and will be forwarded to CompuServe and GEnie.  Thank you for your vote. --  Bob Jacobson			Mark De Loura Moderator			Co-Moderator sci.virtual-worlds		sci.virtual-worlds [email protected]	[email protected]  From [email protected] Mon Nov  2 15:42:35 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2888 news.groups:58619 sci.virtual-worlds:5684 comp.human-factors:3275 comp.graphics.visualization:2683 alt.cyberspace:912 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.virtual-worlds,comp.human-factors,comp.graphics.visualization,alt.cyberspace Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Robert Jacobson <[email protected]> Subject: RESULT: sci.virtual-worlds.apps passes 295:13 Followup-To: news.groups Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 23:56:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 313  "yes" votes (295):  Roger Jacobs <[email protected]> John Eagan <[email protected]> "Adam Feuer" <[email protected]> [email protected] (/usr/spool/mail/agri) Christopher Ahlberg <[email protected]> Alex Butler (JRG ra) <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Allan Schaffer) Peter Rothman <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Bradley B. Banister) [email protected] (David Barchas) [email protected] (Brooks Cutter) [email protected] (Brice Dowaliby) Bengt Larsson <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Bill Myers) Bill Cockayne <[email protected]> Stupendous Man <[email protected]> [email protected] (Brian Blau) Bob Jacobson <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob Pendleton) [email protected] "Lawrence S. Brakmo" <[email protected]> [email protected] (francois BREANT) [email protected] [email protected] (Brian TroxeLL) [email protected] (Christophe Bruniau) [email protected] (Don Brutzman) [email protected] (Bobby Johnson) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Caius Tenche <[email protected]> "Sanjay Castelino" <[email protected]> Chris Byrne <[email protected]> Craig Colvin <[email protected]> [email protected] (Christopher D. Ramey) Chris Shaw <[email protected]> [email protected] (Chris Hiner) [email protected] "Chris Holt" <[email protected]> Chris Esposito <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Frank "Crash" Edwards) [email protected] (Rick Wirthlin) [email protected] (Brian Curtiss) d1b [email protected]> [email protected] <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David Hendrix) [email protected] Mark A. DeLoura <[email protected]> [email protected] (Scott Denham X7117) [email protected] (Dana Allison) [email protected] (David  Harrod) [email protected] (Patrick K. Kroupa) David Murphy <[email protected]> [email protected] (David  Fenger) [email protected] (Douglas LeClair) Danger Mouse <[email protected]> [email protected] (Daniel  Pifko) [email protected] (David Seal) [email protected] (Deyang Song) [email protected] (Duane Day) [email protected] [email protected] (Bernd Ebach (Softwarepraktikum SS92)) Erik Bailey <[email protected]> Dave Ratcliffe <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ed Sinamark) steven lawrence ellis <[email protected]> [email protected] (Erik Horstkotte) Bill Farmer <[email protected]> [email protected] (Frank C. Christofferson) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Michael S Forbes) [email protected] (Eric Francis) [email protected] (Frank Crowell) [email protected] (Carol Anne Ogdin) [email protected] (MR SD BANGAY) [email protected] German W Bauer <[email protected]> "Gregory B. Newby" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Geoff Thomas) Glenn Golden <[email protected]> "digital dave, 927-1052" <[email protected]> Grant Upton (Sooty)  <[email protected]> [email protected] (Joerg 'SPROCKETS' Grau) [email protected] (Bernd Grether (sorescu)) Georges Grinstein <[email protected]> [email protected] (Gurminder Singh) [email protected] (George Stecker) [email protected] (Dave - the - Mage) [email protected] James Harrison <[email protected]> [email protected] (Edward Haslam) [email protected] heizer%[email protected] (Ms. Lisa Heizer) Mark Henry <[email protected]> Lew Hitchner <[email protected]> Human Int. Technology Lab <[email protected]> "Robbin R. Hough" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Postmaster) Hugues Lafarge <[email protected]> hulberm%[email protected] (MARK HULBER) [email protected] [email protected] (Andrew  Infante) [email protected] (Mark Irwin) [email protected] J Lee Jaap <[email protected]> [email protected] Rob Borsari <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (James Powell) [email protected] (Jan Isley) [email protected] (Joe Steger) [email protected] (Jason Dymond) [email protected] (Joseph E. Baker) [email protected] (John E. Mendenhall) [email protected] (Jesse W. Asher) [email protected] (Randell Jesup) [email protected] (John F. Whitehead) [email protected] (Jorgen Gustafsson) [email protected] (Jonathan Monsarrat) John Morrison <[email protected]> Jay Maynard <[email protected]> [email protected] (jon mcswain) David Jones <[email protected]> "Josh N. 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