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From [email protected] Thu Oct 20 13:40:07 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Bob Myers) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.geo.geology,sci.bio,sci.bio.evolution,talk.origins Subject: RFD: sci.bio.paleontology Followup-To: news.groups Date: 19 Oct 1994 16:57:14 -0400 Organization: Unocal Information Systems Support Lines: 73 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5790 news.groups:121076 sci.geo.geology:14945 sci.bio:22400 sci.bio.evolution:2173 talk.origins:102691 Request for Discussion (RFD) Newsgroup : sci.bio.paleontology Status : unmoderated Distribution : Worldwide Summary : For discussion of paleontology Proponent : Bob Myers <[email protected]> This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of a unmoderated newsgroup, sci.bio.paleontology This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation. Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs. The RFD is being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups sci.geo.geology sci.bio sci.bio.evolution talk.origins It is also being sent to the following mailing lists: Dinosaur Palaeobotany Micropaleontology discussion Pollination and Palynology List CHARTER This newsgroup will be open to discussion on scientific topics concerning paleontology. All paleontological topics are welcome, such as discussions of extinct animals and plants, their physiology and phylogeny, fossils, paleoecology, extinction events, and recent discoveries. RATIONALE There is a large and active mailing list for discussion of dinosaurs and other extinct mega-fauna, and there are also several other mailing lists for other paleontological topics. We believe this is sufficient to demonstrate interest in a paleontological newsgroup. UNRESOLVED ISSUES Issues that should be resolved during this RFD: * Name hierarchy - should it go under sci.geo instead? It would fit about as easily. There's also some support for sci.paleontology in light of the geo/bio confusion, but this should probably be avoided. * What about the dinosaur mailing list? Do we want to have a gateway between the mailing list and the newsgroup? This will probably be hashed out in the dinosaur mailing list. FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are not overwhelming objections to any of the proposed groups, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV) posted to the same groups as this RFD. The voting period will be at least 21 days. Each group that passes, by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO votes *and* twice as many YES votes as NO votes, will be created. -- Bob Myers Unocal Information Systems Support Internet: [email protected] P. O. Box 68076 Phone: [714] 693-6951 Anaheim, California 92817-8076 From [email protected] Tue Dec 6 13:26:18 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.geo.geology,sci.bio,sci.bio.evolution,talk.origins Subject: CFV: sci.bio.paleontology Followup-To: poster Date: 6 Dec 1994 13:09:54 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 66 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Expires: 6 Jan 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:6046 news.groups:125940 sci.geo.geology:16105 sci.bio:23716 sci.bio.evolution:2569 talk.origins:108932 1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) Unmoderated group sci.bio.paleontology Newsgroups line: sci.bio.paleontology Paleontology and related topics Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 January 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Contact the votetaker, Ed Bailey <[email protected]>, with any questions about voting procedures. Questions about the proposed group should be sent to the proponent, Bob Myers <[email protected]>. This CFV will be posted to the following mailing lists. Dinosaur <[email protected]> Palaeobotany <[email protected]> Pollination and Palynology List <[email protected]> Taxonomic & Systematic Collections <[email protected]> CHARTER The newsgroup sci.bio.paleontology is open to discussion on scientific topics concerning paleontology. All paleontological topics are welcome, such as discussions of extinct animals and plants, their physiology and phylogeny, fossils, paleoecology, extinction events, and recent discoveries, but all discussion of creation vs. evolution should take place in talk.origins, not sci.bio.paleontology. STANDARD VOTING INFO You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on sci.bio.paleontology. I vote NO on sci.bio.paleontology. I vote ABSTAIN on sci.bio.paleontology. I vote CANCEL on sci.bio.paleontology. You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. An "abstain" vote has no effect on the result, but your vote will be registered. If you later change your mind you may send in another vote. Only the last valid vote received will count. You may also vote "cancel", which is similiar to "abstain", but your vote will not be listed in the final vote tally. You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within one to three days. Additional CFVs will NOT include mass ACKs, only ACKs for undeliverable mail. Standard Guidelines for voting apply: One vote per person (regardless of how many accounts you have) and one vote per account (regardless of how many people use that account). Votes from system accounts, e.g. root, postmaster, et al., and votes from anonymous accounts will be rejected. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. -- Ed Bailey | Voice: (512) 471-4198 Fax: (512) 471-6715 Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: [email protected]{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu, Univ. of Texas at Austin | [email protected], or [email protected] Austin TX 78712 | "No pithy quotes. Just email addresses." From [email protected] Wed Dec 14 15:16:53 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.geo.geology,sci.bio,sci.bio.evolution,talk.origins Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.bio.paleontology Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 14 Dec 1994 14:16:09 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 94 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:6086 news.groups:126963 sci.geo.geology:16273 sci.bio:23960 sci.bio.evolution:2594 talk.origins:110046 2nd and FINAL CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) Unmoderated group sci.bio.paleontology Newsgroups line: sci.bio.paleontology Paleontology and related topics Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 January 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Contact the votetaker, Ed Bailey <[email protected]>, with any questions about voting procedures. Questions about the proposed group should be sent to the proponent, Bob Myers <[email protected]>. This CFV will be posted to the following mailing lists. Dinosaur <[email protected]> Palaeobotany <[email protected]> Pollination and Palynology List <[email protected]> Taxonomic & Systematic Collections <[email protected]> CHARTER The newsgroup sci.bio.paleontology is open to discussion on scientific topics concerning paleontology. All paleontological topics are welcome, such as discussions of extinct animals and plants, their physiology and phylogeny, fossils, paleoecology, extinction events, and recent discoveries, but all discussion of creation vs. evolution should take place in talk.origins, not sci.bio.paleontology. STANDARD VOTING INFO You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on sci.bio.paleontology. I vote NO on sci.bio.paleontology. I vote ABSTAIN on sci.bio.paleontology. I vote CANCEL on sci.bio.paleontology. You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. An "abstain" vote has no effect on the result, but your vote will be registered. If you later change your mind you may send in another vote. Only the last valid vote received will count. You may also vote "cancel", which is similiar to "abstain", but your vote will not be listed in the final vote tally. You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within one to three days. Additional CFVs will NOT include mass ACKs, only ACKs for undeliverable mail. Standard Guidelines for voting apply: One vote per person (regardless of how many accounts you have) and one vote per account (regardless of how many people use that account). Votes from system accounts, e.g. root, postmaster, et al., and votes from anonymous accounts will be rejected. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. BOUNCED VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS All votes received by December 13th, 23:59 GMT have been counted and ACKed. Vote acknowledgements sent to the following addresses have bounced. These votes *have* been counted, but I have been unable to reply to their mail. If you voted, but you have NOT received an ACK *and* your name is NOT listed below, then your vote was probably lost somewhere in the ether. Please send another vote to [email protected] [email protected] AMN Morris Plummer [email protected] Seokchan Yun [email protected] David Wright The following people have sent malformed ballots which have not been superceded by a Yes, No, or Abstain vote. These people should revote. [email protected] Robert Johnson ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Phillip Bigelow ! No vote statement in message [email protected] ! Invalid address [email protected] Stuart Pressage ! No vote statement in message [email protected] ! No vote statement in message -- Ed Bailey | Voice: (512) 471-4198 Fax: (512) 471-6715 Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: [email protected]{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu, Univ. of Texas at Austin | [email protected], or [email protected] Austin TX 78712 | "No pithy quotes. Just email addresses." From [email protected] Thu Jan 12 14:07:26 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.geo.geology,sci.bio,sci.bio.evolution,talk.origins Subject: RESULT: sci.bio.paleontology passes 309:19 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 12 Jan 1995 13:18:05 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 413 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:6184 news.groups:129471 sci.geo.geology:17033 sci.bio:24452 sci.bio.evolution:2808 talk.origins:114175 RESULT unmoderated group sci.bio.paleontology passes 309:19 Voting for sci.bio.paleontology closed at 23:59 UTC, 5 January 1995. There were 309 YES votes and 19 NO votes, for a total of 328 valid votes. There were 5 abstains and 12 invalid ballots. 23 ballots were canceled, superceded, or discarded as duplicates. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: sci.bio.paleontology Paleontology and related topics This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Ed Bailey <[email protected]>. For questions about the proposed group contact Bob Myers <[email protected]>. This CFV will be posted to the following mailing lists. Dinosaur <[email protected]> Palaeobotany <[email protected]> Pollination and Palynology List <[email protected]> Taxonomic & Systematic Collections <[email protected]> CHARTER The newsgroup sci.bio.paleontology is open to discussion on scientific topics concerning paleontology. All paleontological topics are welcome, such as discussions of extinct animals and plants, their physiology and phylogeny, fossils, paleoecology, extinction events, and recent discoveries, but all discussion of creation vs. evolution should take place in talk.origins, not sci.bio.paleontology. sci.bio.paleontology Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Joe Average [email protected] Villemagne Claude [email protected] Anna Domino [email protected] David Wright [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Jeremy Creighton Ahouse [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Samuel Crider [email protected] Annie Alpert [email protected] Art Berggreen [email protected] [email protected] Schmeltzer, Amy [email protected] Jim Ault [email protected] M Anderson [email protected] Bonnie Dalzell MA [email protected] Benton Kealii Pang [email protected] Bertrand Jean-Francois [email protected] Fred Bervoets [email protected] Curtis_H Best [email protected] Beth Ellis [email protected] William G M Adlam [email protected] Joseph G. 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Yancey [email protected] Trisha Grieff [email protected] TIM HEATON [email protected] Tom Holtz [email protected] Tim Ikeda [email protected] Tim Palmer [email protected] trygve lode [email protected] Todd L Marsh [email protected] tom [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Tony Arnold [email protected] Anthony J Carter [email protected] Rickard S. Toomey, III [email protected] Peter Fromm [email protected] [email protected] Troy Stoneking [email protected] Dayle Turner [email protected] Peter Uetz [email protected] Una Smith [email protected] [email protected] John VanZandt [email protected] [email protected] vicki gustafson [email protected] JENNIFER L BRODEUR [email protected] Robert Casey [email protected] Bill Christens-Barry [email protected] Walt Moffett [email protected] Warren L. Kovach [email protected] [email protected] Doug Boyce [email protected] DAVID WELLS 703-305-6450 [email protected] Wesley R. Elsberry [email protected] Will Fischer [email protected] Bruce Wielinga [email protected] Niklas Wikstrom [email protected] William C. Wilson [email protected] Will Morse [email protected] Tom Williams [email protected] William Iams [email protected] Bill Morgan [email protected] Dave Shariff Yadallee Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Vincent Archer [email protected] Bonnie Blackwell, Dept of Geology, (718) 997-3332 [email protected] Giles Miller [email protected] Kenneth P Crouch [email protected] David L. Clark [email protected] Dave Thacker [email protected] Pete 'Happy' Thomas [email protected] John Fierstien [email protected] Brent Sutherland [email protected] Jeff Murphy [email protected] Hasnain Khan [email protected] Pierre Uszynski [email protected] Peter Whybrow [email protected] Ryan Waldron [email protected] Timothy Rowe [email protected] Ron Ricketts [email protected] Dwight Brown [email protected] Steve Mitchell [email protected] Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Guilbault Jean-Pierre [email protected] M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected] [email protected] M. Otto [email protected] Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Adrian Dorn ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Mr Gtw Rogers [psy]53954 ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Jere H. Lipps ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Robert Johnson ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Jim Clark ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Larry W Knox ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Charlotte Mooers ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Phillip Bigelow ! No vote statement in message [email protected] ! Invalid address [email protected] Stuart Pressage ! No vote statement in message [email protected] ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Donald F Voorhees ! No vote statement in message -- Ed Bailey | Voice: (512) 471-4198 Fax: (512) 471-6715 Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: [email protected]{hagar,zonker}.ph.utexas.edu, Univ. of Texas at Austin | [email protected], or [email protected] Austin TX 78712 | "No pithy quotes. Just email addresses."
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