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From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 02:47:54 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1754 news.groups:37638 sci.bio:5219 sci.chem:5816 sci.geo.fluids:620 sci.geo.geology:1384 sci.geo.meteorology:2261 sci.math.num-analysis:3548 sci.math.stat:2761 sci.misc:3275 sci.optics:703 sci.physics:21491 sci.research:1944 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.geo.fluids,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.stat,sci.misc,sci.optics,sci.physics,sci.research Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alex Dommasch) Subject: RFD:  sci.comp Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: 21 Jan 92 15:16:54 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 61  This is a Request For Discussion for an unmoderated group concerned   with using computers in scientific research, particularly in the   laboratory.  PROPOSED NAMES:	sci.comp 		sci.comp-aided 		sci.lab-comp 		sci.research.comp 		(etc.  Other ideas are welcome) 		 PROPOSED CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about: 	General use of computers in the laboratory. 	Scientific data acquisition. 	Using computers to plan experiments and predict outcomes. 	Controlling laboratory devices. 	Analyzing scientific data. 	Visualizing scientific data. 	Standards for scientific data formats. 	Standards for analytical instrument interfaces. 	Networked laboratory systems. 	LIMS (Laboratory Information Managemant Systems)   RATIONALE: There are a lot of scientists using computers in the laboratory to   aid them in doing scientific research.  Some have rigged up their own   systems; others use commercial products; many more use some   combination of the two.  The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various   existing groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime   systems, software, numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it   all brought together.  Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market   for laboratory computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and   there is an appalling lack of standards for this stuff.  Some subjects from my work: 	Using a computer to control pumps, heaters, and centrifuges 	    according to a specific program. 	Generate a run program to produce a given amount of 	    separation in a minimum amount of time. 	Collecting data from experimental runs. 	Analyzing the data to deduce particle size distributions. 	Finding and analyzing peaks in the data. 	Displaying and manipulating all this information. 	 [Thanks to Dean Pentcheff for posting the article with these ideas:]     Small-scale A/D systems added to general purpose computers.  For         example, A/D boards for PCs and Macs.     Lab experiment signal acquisition problems.  For example, noise         in a neurophysiology rig, or problems with thermal mass of 	hot film flow sensors.     Portable field data acquisition systems.  For example,         combinations of portable PCs-with-slot and half-card A/D 	boards that could be used to gather intertidal microclimate 	data, or using both channels and multiple frequencies on a 	walkman to record multiple flow sensor readings underwater.  Comments are welcome, of course.  From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 02:53:05 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1780 news.groups:38224 sci.bio:5375 sci.chem:5947 sci.geo.fluids:642 sci.geo.geology:1468 sci.geo.meteorology:2397 sci.math.num-analysis:3636 sci.math.stat:2815 sci.misc:3334 sci.optics:742 sci.physics:21936 sci.research:1998 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.geo.fluids,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.stat,sci.misc,sci.optics,sci.physics,sci.research Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alex Dommasch) Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.comp-aided Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: 1 Feb 92 06:09:15 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 50  This is a Request For Discussion for an unmoderated group concerned   with using computers in science.  PROPOSED NAME:	sci.comp-aided 		 PROPOSED CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about: 	General use of computers in science: 	. Data acquisition. 	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes. 	. Controlling laboratory devices. 	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces. 	. Networked laboratory systems. 	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems) 	. Analyzing scientific data. 	. Visualizing scientific data. 	. Presenting scientific data. 	. Modelling physical processes. 	. Simulation of physical processes. 	. Numerical analysis of scientific data. 	. Algorithms for scientific computing. 	. Standards for scientific data formats.  RATIONALE: Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their   research.  This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple   calculations, to using computers to control apparatus, to using a   supercomputer to do molecular modelling, and everything in between.  Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use   commercial products; many more use some combination of the two.  The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various   existing groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime   systems, software, numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it   all brought together.  Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market   for scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and   there is an appalling lack of standards for this stuff.  As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in   scientific research, the proposed name for the group is   "sci.comp-aided"  Comments are welcome, of course. (Follow-ups to news.groups.) --  Alex Dommasch, Programmer                    (801) 581-7168 Field-Flow Fractionation Research Center     FAX (801) 581-4353 Dept. of Chemistry, University of Utah Salt Lake City, Utah 84112                   [email protected] (NeXT Mail)  From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 02:59:44 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1809 news.groups:38920 sci.bio:5478 sci.chem:6071 sci.geo.fluids:658 sci.geo.geology:1529 sci.geo.meteorology:2573 sci.math.num-analysis:3721 sci.math.stat:2854 sci.misc:3428 sci.optics:778 sci.physics:22413 sci.research:2058 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.geo.fluids,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.stat,sci.misc,sci.optics,sci.physics,sci.research Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alex Dommasch) Subject: CFV:  sci.comp-aided Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1992 14:10:17 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 67  This is a Call For Votes for an unmoderated group concerned with using   computers in science.  NAME:	sci.comp-aided  STATUS:	unmoderated 		 CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about: 	General use of computers in science: 	. Data acquisition. 	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes. 	. Controlling laboratory devices. 	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces. 	. Networked laboratory systems. 	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems) 	. Analyzing scientific data. 	. Visualizing scientific data. 	. Presenting scientific data. 	. Modelling physical processes. 	. Simulation of physical processes. 	. Numerical analysis of scientific data. 	. Algorithms for scientific computing. 	. Standards for scientific data formats.  RATIONALE: Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their research.    This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple calculations, to   using computers to control apparatus, to using a supercomputer to do   molecular modelling, and everything in between.  Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use commercial   products; many more use some combination of the two.  The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various existing   groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime systems, software,   numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it all brought together.  Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market for   scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there is an   appalling lack of standards for this stuff.  As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in   scientific research, the proposed name for the group is "sci.comp-aided"  VOTING:  TO VOTE YES: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this   article): 	with the words "YES" and "sci.comp-aided" 	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).  TO VOTE NO: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article): 	with the words "NO" and "sci.comp-aided" 	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).  Only votes mailed to the above address will be counted.  Ambiguous votes   will be discarded.  In the case of multiple votes from a given person, only   the last will be counted.  Only votes received before March 11, 11:59 PM MST, will be counted.  Alex Dommasch, Programmer				|--    --  Field-Flow Fractionation Research Center		|-     Department of Chemistry, University of Utah		V      Salt Lake City, Utah 84112				|->|.. (801)581-7168		FAX: (801)581-4353		|- |.   From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:11:16 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1834 news.groups:39323 sci.bio:5557 sci.chem:6129 sci.geo.fluids:664 sci.geo.geology:1572 sci.geo.meteorology:2624 sci.math.num-analysis:3764 sci.math.stat:2894 sci.misc:3485 sci.optics:802 sci.physics:22664 sci.research:2085 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.geo.fluids,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.stat,sci.misc,sci.optics,sci.physics,sci.research Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alex Dommasch) Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  sci.comp-aided Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1992 06:21:01 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 209  This is the second Call For Votes on sci.comp-aided  Mass vote acknowledgement (as of 11:00 AM MST, February 18) is at the end of   the article.  NOTE:  duplicate and ambiguous votes have NOT yet been removed.    This will be done for the final vote tally. --  This is a Call For Votes for an unmoderated group concerned with using   computers in science.  NAME:	sci.comp-aided  STATUS:	unmoderated 		 CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about: 	General use of computers in science: 	. Data acquisition. 	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes. 	. Controlling laboratory devices. 	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces. 	. Networked laboratory systems. 	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems) 	. Analyzing scientific data. 	. Visualizing scientific data. 	. Presenting scientific data. 	. Modelling physical processes. 	. Simulation of physical processes. 	. Numerical analysis of scientific data. 	. Algorithms for scientific computing. 	. Standards for scientific data formats.  RATIONALE: Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their research.    This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple calculations, to using   computers to control apparatus, to using a supercomputer to do molecular   modelling, and everything in between.  Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use commercial   products; many more use some combination of the two.  The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various existing   groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime systems, software,   numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it all brought together.  Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market for   scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there is an   appalling lack of standards for this stuff.  As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in   scientific research, the proposed name for the group is "sci.comp-aided"  VOTING:  TO VOTE YES: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article): 	with the words "YES" and "sci.comp-aided" 	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).  TO VOTE NO: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article): 	with the words "NO" and "sci.comp-aided" 	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).  Only votes mailed to the above address will be counted.  Ambiguous votes will   be discarded.  In the case of multiple votes from a given person, only the   last will be counted.  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(801)581-7168		FAX: (801)581-4353              |- |.   From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:21:30 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1890 news.groups:40209 sci.bio:5704 sci.chem:6304 sci.geo.fluids:688 sci.geo.geology:1675 sci.geo.meteorology:2718 sci.math.num-analysis:3901 sci.math.stat:2987 sci.misc:3561 sci.optics:822 sci.physics:23297 sci.research:2114 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.geo.fluids,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.stat,sci.misc,sci.optics,sci.physics,sci.research Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alex Dommasch) Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  sci.comp-aided Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 05:59:28 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 294  This is the third Call For Votes and Vote Acknowledgement for   sci.comp-aided.  Votes received as of Mar. 4, 12:00 PM MST, are listed at   the end of this article.  NOTE:  duplicate and ambiguous votes have NOT yet   been removed.  This will be done for the final vote tally.  ---- This is a Call For Votes for an unmoderated group concerned with using   computers in science.  NAME:	sci.comp-aided  STATUS:	unmoderated 		 CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about: 	General use of computers in science: 	. Data acquisition. 	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes. 	. Controlling laboratory devices. 	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces. 	. Networked laboratory systems. 	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems) 	. Analyzing scientific data. 	. Visualizing scientific data. 	. Presenting scientific data. 	. Modelling physical processes. 	. Simulation of physical processes. 	. Numerical analysis of scientific data. 	. Algorithms for scientific computing. 	. Standards for scientific data formats.  RATIONALE: Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their research.    This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple calculations, to using   computers to control apparatus, to using a supercomputer to do molecular   modelling, and everything in between.  Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use commercial   products; many more use some combination of the two.  The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various existing   groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime systems, software,   numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it all brought together.  Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market for   scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there is an   appalling lack of standards for this stuff.  As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in   scientific research, the proposed name for the group is "sci.comp-aided"  VOTING:  TO VOTE YES: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article): 	with the words "YES" and "sci.comp-aided" 	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).  TO VOTE NO: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article): 	with the words "NO" and "sci.comp-aided" 	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).  Only votes mailed to the above address will be counted.  Ambiguous votes   will be discarded.  In the case of multiple votes from a given person, only   the last will be counted.  Only votes received before March 11, 11:59 PM MST, will be counted.  "Anders Holm" <[email protected]> "Barbara J. Kratz" <[email protected]> "Bishara F. Shamee" <[email protected]> "Charles Geyer" <[email protected]> "D.J.Laws" <[email protected]> "Gregory A. 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From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:24:30 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1905 news.groups:40827 sci.bio:5780 sci.chem:6420 sci.geo.fluids:692 sci.geo.geology:1733 sci.geo.meteorology:2779 sci.math.num-analysis:3986 sci.math.stat:3041 sci.misc:3608 sci.optics:838 sci.physics:23669 sci.research:2152 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.geo.fluids,sci.geo.geology,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.stat,sci.misc,sci.optics,sci.physics,sci.research Path: rpi!batcomputer!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!wupost!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alex Dommasch) Subject: RESULT:  sci.comp-aided passes 245: 20 Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Communications Services Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 19:13:53 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 328  "sci.comp-aided" passed by a large margin.  There were 245 valid YES votes and 20 valid NO votes.  According to Usenet policies, this group should be created after a 5 day waiting period.  Any comments should be forwarded to news.groups  The charter is repeated here.  Lists of NO votes and YES votes are listed below the charter.  NAME:	sci.comp-aided  STATUS:	unmoderated 		 CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about: 	General use of computers in science: 	. Data acquisition. 	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes. 	. Controlling laboratory devices. 	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces. 	. Networked laboratory systems. 	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems) 	. Analyzing scientific data. 	. Visualizing scientific data. 	. Presenting scientific data. 	. Modelling physical processes. 	. Simulation of physical processes. 	. Numerical analysis of scientific data. 	. Algorithms for scientific computing. 	. Standards for scientific data formats.  RATIONALE:   Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their research.  This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple calculations, to using computers to control apparatus, to using a supercomputer to do molecular modelling, and everything in between.  Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use commercial products; many more use some combination of the two.  The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various existing groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime systems, software, numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it all brought together.  Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market for scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there is an appalling lack of standards for this stuff.  As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in scientific research, the proposed name for the group is "sci.comp-aided".  NO votes (20):  "Stuart L Labovitz" <[email protected]> David Wright <[email protected]> Don Wunsch <[email protected]> [email protected] Jeff Longmate <[email protected]> Kristian Ejvind  <[email protected]> Norman Yarvin <[email protected]> [email protected] ( SNEERINGER) [email protected] (Beth Schwindt) [email protected] (Cristy) [email protected] (Ed McGuire) [email protected] (Jeff Beadles) [email protected] (Quincey Koziol) [email protected] (Alex Martelli) [email protected] (mehta) [email protected] (Mike Jones) [email protected] [email protected] (P.J. Boulay ) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Mark Slagle) ----  YES votes (245):  "Anders Holm" <[email protected]> "Barbara J. Kratz" <[email protected]> "Bishara F. Shamee" <[email protected]> "Charles Geyer" <[email protected]> "D.J.Laws" <[email protected]> "Dorn W. Peterson" <[email protected]> "Gregory A. Landrum" <[email protected]> "Jason Howat, Archimedes Fanatic" <[email protected]> "John K. Dickinson" <[email protected]> "Joseph I. Landman" <[email protected]> "Lothar Fritsch" <[email protected]> "MARY ELLEN VERONA" <[email protected]> "Mark D. Gelinas" <[email protected]> "R. Jayakrishnan" <[email protected]> "Shaun Courtney"  <[email protected]> "WILLIAM E. BLASS" <[email protected]> "john  watts" <[email protected]> "joshua louis bliss" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> [email protected] ANAPL <[email protected]> Adam C. 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