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Herpetology (reptiles and amphibians) ( sci.bio.herp )
 
From [email protected] Fri Nov 12 15:41:18 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Una Smith)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.admin,bit.listserv.biosph-l,bit.listserv.ethology,sci.bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.environment,rec.pets.herp,bionet.general,bionet.molbio.evolution
Subject: RFD: sci.bio.{ethology,herps}, sci.environment.biosphere
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Date: 11 Nov 1993 13:38:16 -0500
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			Request for Discussion

Proposal to create

	sci.bio.ethology	for discussion of the scientific study of
				animal behavior and behavioral ecology.

	sci.bio.herps		for discussion of the natural history,
				biology, conservation, and scientific
				study of amphibians and reptiles.

	sci.environment.biosphere  for discussion of scientific research
				on the properties and dynamics of the
				biosphere which envelopes our planet.

Motivation

Sci.bio.herps is motivated by the "tell me too" response to a query
in sci.bio.ecology about whether such a group exists.  It would
compliment the already very popular rec.pets.herp.

The other two groups are already available in Usenet, and have well
established readerships (plus 250 e-mail subscribers), but would be
far more accessible if moved to the sci.* hierarchy.


Administrivia

Usenet vote first-timers:  an RFD invites thoughtful comments on
whether a proposed newsgroup change is useful and desirable.  It is an
opportunity to voice any serious reservations or obojections, and to 
suggest modifications to any proposed new newsgroup names, if need be.
As it is not a call for votes, there is no need to respond if you feel
the proposal is a good idea.  Assuming the response to the RFD bodes
well for the success of the proposal, a formal call for votes (CVF)
will appear at the end of the month.

Sci.bio.ethology will be gated to the LISTSERV mailing list ETHOLOGY,
which is now gated to bit.listserv.ethology.  Sci.environment.biosphere
will be gated to BIOSPH-L, which is now gated to bit.listserv.biosph-l.
The two bit.listserv.* groups will be removed once they are redundant.
These proposed new groups have been discussed in the corresponding lists 
with generally favorable results.  The mailing list owners (respectively:
[email protected] and Dave Phillips <[email protected]>)
have given their blessings to these proposals.

It is anticipated that sci.bio.herps will also have a mailing list,
to be administered by Michael Eisen <[email protected]>.

If all goes well, the call for votes (CFV) for these three groups will
go out together with the CVF for sci.bio.evolution.  An RFD for this
group was posted earlier this month by Chris Colby <[email protected]>. 
Having a joint CFV will means that each person who sees the CFV may vote
on any or all four group proposals via a single e-mail message, rather
than in separate messages.  This is sensible as the groups are related.

Also, look for a separate CFV for sci.anthropology.paleo on November 18.

Send no votes now!  The CFV will include instructions on how to submit
your vote.  Thank you.
-- 
	Una Smith

Yale University, Department of Biology, Osborn Memorial Laboratories,
PO Box 6666, New Haven, Connecticut  06511-8155     [email protected]

From [email protected] Thu Dec  2 17:01:15 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.admin,bit.listserv.biosph-l,bit.listserv.ethology,sci.bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.environment,rec.pets.herp,bionet.general,bionet.molbio.evolution
Subject: CFV: sci.bio.{ethology,herp}, sci.environment.biosphere
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                     1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)

Proposed:

Rename	bit.listserv.ethology	to sci.bio.ethology
Create	sci.bio.herp
Rename	bit.listserv.biosph-l	to sci.environment.biosphere 

Newsgroup lines:

sci.bio.ethology		Animal behavior and behavioral ecology.
sci.bio.herp			Biology of amphibians and reptiles.
sci.environment.biosphere	Study of the earth's biosphere.

Votes must be received by 2 January 1994, 23:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected]  For questions about
the proposed newsgroups, contact [email protected] (Una Smith).


CHARTERS

sci.bio.ethology:  for discussion of the scientific study of animal behavior
	and behavioral ecology.

sci.bio.herp:  for discussion of the natural history, biology, conservation,
	and scientific study of amphibians and reptiles.

sci.environment.biosphere:  for discussion of scientific research on the
	properties and dynamics of the earth's biosphere.

The newsgroups bit.listserv.biosph-l and bit.listserv.ethology are gated to
the LISTSERV mailing lists BIOSPH-L (Dave Phillips, [email protected]
is the list owner), and ETHOLOGY ([email protected] is the owner).
Each list has several hundred subscribers, who have been polled on the
question of changing the newsgroup names, and are generally in favor.  The
mailing lists would remain as they are;  only the names of the newsgroups
would change. 

It is expected that a mailing list will be gated to sci.bio.herps, as
extensive interest was expressed by biologists who do not have direct
access to Usenet at this time.  This newsgroup is proposed in addition
to rec.pets.herp because the traffic in rec.pets.herp would overwhelm
most e-mail subscribers.  The proposed mailing list owner, Michael Eisen,
[email protected], is now looking for a site to host the list.


VOTING PROCEDURE

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.

The requirements for newsgroup creation are 100 more YES votes than NO
votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes.

Before voting, please read through these instructions.  This message has
a "ballot" which you should copy into your e-mail to the votetaker, and
edit to indicate your vote on each of the newsgroup proposals in this CFV.

The names, addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the vote
results.  By Usenet convention, because there is no other way to protect
against voter fraud, all YES and NO votes must be revealed.  ABSTAIN votes
are revealed as well. 

One vote per person, no more than one vote per account. 
 

HOW AND WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE

To vote, send E-MAIL to [email protected]

Just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work.  Ballots sent to a
newsgroup or mailing list will not be counted, so be sure you send your
ballot to [email protected]

The votetaker will send an e-mail acknowledgement (ack) for your ballot. 
The ack will show how your ballot was registered, or specify any problems
with it.  If the ack does not reflect your ballot as you wished to cast
it, (you changed your mind, or your ballot was somehow processed in error) 
you should send your ballot again before the deadline.  It is your 
responsibility to ensure that your vote is registered correctly before the 
deadline.

If you do not receive an ack after several days, you should send your ballot
again and check the "bounced ack" list in the next CFV.  The bounced ack
list will help you determine that your ballot was received, but will not
reveal how it was registered.


IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE

Save your ballot.  Ballots not formatted according to the following criteria
may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  If this happens, or
you change your mind before the voting period ends, you may send a new ballot.
 

HOW TO FORMAT YOUR VOTE

Use the "ballot" provided below.  Copy everything inside the "-=-=-=-" lines
(please delete the rest of this message in your e-mail).  Your ballot will
be registered by a computer program, so it must appear in the format below.

Type in your name after the text that says "Give your real name here:". 

For each newsgroup, insert your vote between the brackets on the same line. 
Recognized votes are YES, NO and ABSTAIN.  You can also abstain (not vote)
by not sending a ballot, or by leaving the space blank, or by omiting the
line.  But, to change a previous YES or NO vote to a non-vote, you should
use the word ABSTAIN. 

If you vote YES, NO, or ABSTAIN, and later decide to abstain from all votes,
you may remove all evidence that you participated in the vote, by sending a
ballot containing CANCEL in the brackets of each line.  Your name will not
appear in the RESULTS posting, but the raw vote information is still retained.
Unless there is controversy after the vote is finished, the raw vote 
information is not viewed by anyone except the votetaker.

Don't worry about spacing, case, or any quote characters ">" that your
e-mail program inserts.  If you don't know how to copy the ballot into your
e-mail, you can re-type it by hand.  You must include:

    1.  the text "[SB-0001]"
    2.	the text "Give your real name here:" plus your name on the same line.

and, for each proposed newsgroup,

    3.	type just the special vote keyword (YES, NO) and the complete,
	correctly spelled name of the newsgroup, with EACH newsgroup vote
	on a separate line.  You MUST type these accurately, but you can
	skip any you intend to abstain on.


Again, the basic instructions:  Send e-mail to [email protected] 
In it, put the "ballot" text from between the "-=-=-=-" lines below (please
do not include the rest of this message).  Add your name after the text that
says "Give your real name here:" and, for each newsgroup, place a YES or NO
in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. 
 
And don't worry:  ask [email protected] for help if you need it.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Start of Ballot -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 
sci.bio.* Ballot    [SB-0001]
 
Give your real name here:
 
Your Vote   Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[       ]   sci.bio.ethology (from bit.listserv.ethology)
[       ]   sci.bio.herp
[       ]   sci.environment.biosphere (from bit.listserv.biosph-l)
 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- End of Ballot -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-- 
Brenda J. Roder ([email protected])

From [email protected] Thu Dec  9 17:21:00 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.admin,bit.listserv.biosph-l,bit.listserv.ethology,sci.bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.environment,rec.pets.herp,bionet.general,bionet.molbio.evolution
Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.bio.{ethology,herp}, sci.environment.biosphere
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 8 Dec 1993 14:27:22 -0500
Organization: UUNET Communications
Lines: 163
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 3 Jan 1994 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4387 news.groups:89657 bit.admin:748 bit.listserv.biosph-l:5041 bit.listserv.ethology:458 sci.bio:16343 sci.bio.ecology:2239 sci.environment:38942 rec.pets.herp:12412 bionet.general:7219 bionet.molbio.evolution:1335

                     2nd CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)

Proposed:

Rename	bit.listserv.ethology	to sci.bio.ethology
Create	sci.bio.herp
Rename	bit.listserv.biosph-l	to sci.environment.biosphere 

Newsgroup lines:

sci.bio.ethology		Animal behavior and behavioral ecology.
sci.bio.herp			Biology of amphibians and reptiles.
sci.environment.biosphere	Study of the earth's biosphere.

Votes must be received by 2 January 1994, 23:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected]  For questions about
the proposed newsgroups, contact [email protected] (Una Smith).


CHARTERS

sci.bio.ethology:  for discussion of the scientific study of animal behavior
	and behavioral ecology.

sci.bio.herp:  for discussion of the natural history, biology, conservation,
	and scientific study of amphibians and reptiles.

sci.environment.biosphere:  for discussion of scientific research on the
	properties and dynamics of the earth's biosphere.

The newsgroups bit.listserv.biosph-l and bit.listserv.ethology are gated to
the LISTSERV mailing lists BIOSPH-L (Dave Phillips, [email protected]
is the list owner), and ETHOLOGY ([email protected] is the owner).
Each list has several hundred subscribers, who have been polled on the
question of changing the newsgroup names, and are generally in favor.  The
mailing lists would remain as they are;  only the names of the newsgroups
would change. 

It is expected that a mailing list will be gated to sci.bio.herp, as
extensive interest was expressed by biologists who do not have direct
access to Usenet at this time.  This newsgroup is proposed in addition
to rec.pets.herp because the traffic in rec.pets.herp would overwhelm
most e-mail subscribers.  The proposed mailing list owner, Michael Eisen,
[email protected], is now looking for a site to host the list.


VOTING PROCEDURE

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.

The requirements for newsgroup creation are 100 more YES votes than NO
votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes.

Before voting, please read through these instructions.  This message has
a "ballot" which you should copy into your e-mail to the votetaker, and
edit to indicate your vote on each of the newsgroup proposals in this CFV.

The names, addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the vote
results.  By Usenet convention, because there is no other way to protect
against voter fraud, all YES and NO votes must be revealed.  ABSTAIN votes
are revealed as well. 

One vote per person, no more than one vote per account. 
 

HOW AND WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE

To vote, send E-MAIL to [email protected]

Just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work.  Ballots sent to a
newsgroup or mailing list will not be counted, so be sure you send your
ballot to [email protected]

The votetaker will send an e-mail acknowledgement (ack) for your ballot. 
The ack will show how your ballot was registered, or specify any problems
with it.  If the ack does not reflect your ballot as you wished to cast
it, (you changed your mind, or your ballot was somehow processed in error) 
you should send your ballot again before the deadline.  It is your 
responsibility to ensure that your vote is registered correctly before the 
deadline.

If you do not receive an ack after several days, you should send your ballot
again and check the "bounced ack" list in the next CFV.  The bounced ack
list will help you determine that your ballot was received, but will not
reveal how it was registered.


IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE

Save your ballot.  Ballots not formatted according to the following criteria
may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  If this happens, or
you change your mind before the voting period ends, you may send a new ballot.
 

HOW TO FORMAT YOUR VOTE

Use the "ballot" provided below.  Copy everything inside the "-=-=-=-" lines
(please delete the rest of this message in your e-mail).  Your ballot will
be registered by a computer program, so it must appear in the format below.

Type in your name after the text that says "Give your real name here:". 

For each newsgroup, insert your vote between the brackets on the same line. 
Recognized votes are YES, NO and ABSTAIN.  You can also abstain (not vote)
by not sending a ballot, or by leaving the space blank, or by omiting the
line.  But, to change a previous YES or NO vote to a non-vote, you should
use the word ABSTAIN. 

If you vote YES, NO, or ABSTAIN, and later decide to abstain from all votes,
you may remove all evidence that you participated in the vote, by sending a
ballot containing CANCEL in the brackets of each line.  Your name will not
appear in the RESULTS posting, but the raw vote information is still retained.
Unless there is controversy after the vote is finished, the raw vote 
information is not viewed by anyone except the votetaker.

Don't worry about spacing, case, or any quote characters ">" that your
e-mail program inserts.  If you don't know how to copy the ballot into your
e-mail, you can re-type it by hand.  You must include:

    1.  the text "[SB-0002]"
    2.	the text "Give your real name here:" plus your name on the same line.

and, for each proposed newsgroup,

    3.	type just the special vote keyword (YES, NO) and the complete,
	correctly spelled name of the newsgroup, with EACH newsgroup vote
	on a separate line.  You MUST type these accurately, but you can
	skip any you intend to abstain on.


Again, the basic instructions:  Send e-mail to [email protected] 
In it, put the "ballot" text from between the "-=-=-=-" lines below (please
do not include the rest of this message).  Add your name after the text that
says "Give your real name here:" and, for each newsgroup, place a YES or NO
in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. 
 
And don't worry:  ask [email protected] for help if you need it.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Start of Ballot -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 
sci.bio.* Ballot    [SB-0002]
 
Give your real name here:
 
Your Vote   Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[       ]   sci.bio.ethology (from bit.listserv.ethology)
[       ]   sci.bio.herp
[       ]   sci.environment.biosphere (from bit.listserv.biosph-l)
 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- End of Ballot -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

BOUNCE ACK

All votes received have been acknowledged by email.  
Email acknowledgements of the following votes have bounced:

<[email protected]>  (Mike Kearsley)
-- 
Brenda J. Roder ([email protected])

From [email protected] Thu Dec 16 15:49:18 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.admin,bit.listserv.biosph-l,bit.listserv.ethology,sci.bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.environment,rec.pets.herp,bionet.general,bionet.molbio.evolution
Subject: 3rd CFV: sci.bio.{ethology,herp}, sci.environment.biosphere
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 15 Dec 1993 14:54:45 -0500
Organization: UUNET Communications
Lines: 164
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 3 Jan 1994 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4413 news.groups:90292 bit.admin:757 bit.listserv.biosph-l:5066 bit.listserv.ethology:465 sci.bio:16426 sci.bio.ecology:2415 sci.environment:39252 rec.pets.herp:12599 bionet.general:7269 bionet.molbio.evolution:1357

                 3rd (LAST) CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)

Proposed:

Rename	bit.listserv.ethology	to sci.bio.ethology
Create	sci.bio.herp
Rename	bit.listserv.biosph-l	to sci.environment.biosphere 

Newsgroup lines:

sci.bio.ethology		Animal behavior and behavioral ecology.
sci.bio.herp			Biology of amphibians and reptiles.
sci.environment.biosphere	Study of the earth's biosphere.

Votes must be received by 2 January 1994, 23:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected]  For questions about
the proposed newsgroups, contact [email protected] (Una Smith).


CHARTERS

sci.bio.ethology:  for discussion of the scientific study of animal behavior
	and behavioral ecology.

sci.bio.herp:  for discussion of the natural history, biology, conservation,
	and scientific study of amphibians and reptiles.

sci.environment.biosphere:  for discussion of scientific research on the
	properties and dynamics of the earth's biosphere.

The newsgroups bit.listserv.biosph-l and bit.listserv.ethology are gated to
the LISTSERV mailing lists BIOSPH-L (Dave Phillips, [email protected]
is the list owner), and ETHOLOGY ([email protected] is the owner).
Each list has several hundred subscribers, who have been polled on the
question of changing the newsgroup names, and are generally in favor.  The
mailing lists would remain as they are;  only the names of the newsgroups
would change. 

It is expected that a mailing list will be gated to sci.bio.herp, as
extensive interest was expressed by biologists who do not have direct
access to Usenet at this time.  This newsgroup is proposed in addition
to rec.pets.herp because the traffic in rec.pets.herp would overwhelm
most e-mail subscribers.  The proposed mailing list owner, Michael Eisen,
[email protected], is now looking for a site to host the list.


VOTING PROCEDURE

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.

The requirements for newsgroup creation are 100 more YES votes than NO
votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes.

Before voting, please read through these instructions.  This message has
a "ballot" which you should copy into your e-mail to the votetaker, and
edit to indicate your vote on each of the newsgroup proposals in this CFV.

The names, addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the vote
results.  By Usenet convention, because there is no other way to protect
against voter fraud, all YES and NO votes must be revealed.  ABSTAIN votes
are revealed as well. 

One vote per person, no more than one vote per account. 
 

HOW AND WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE

To vote, send E-MAIL to [email protected]

Just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work.  Ballots sent to a
newsgroup or mailing list will not be counted, so be sure you send your
ballot to [email protected]

The votetaker will send an e-mail acknowledgement (ack) for your ballot. 
The ack will show how your ballot was registered, or specify any problems
with it.  If the ack does not reflect your ballot as you wished to cast
it, (you changed your mind, or your ballot was somehow processed in error) 
you should send your ballot again before the deadline.  It is your 
responsibility to ensure that your vote is registered correctly before the 
deadline.

If you do not receive an ack after several days, you should send your ballot
again and check the "bounced ack" list in the next CFV.  The bounced ack
list will help you determine that your ballot was received, but will not
reveal how it was registered.


IF YOU MAKE A MISTAKE

Save your ballot.  Ballots not formatted according to the following criteria
may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  If this happens, or
you change your mind before the voting period ends, you may send a new ballot.
 

HOW TO FORMAT YOUR VOTE

Use the "ballot" provided below.  Copy everything inside the "-=-=-=-" lines
(please delete the rest of this message in your e-mail).  Your ballot will
be registered by a computer program, so it must appear in the format below.

Type in your name after the text that says "Give your real name here:". 

For each newsgroup, insert your vote between the brackets on the same line. 
Recognized votes are YES, NO and ABSTAIN.  You can also abstain (not vote)
by not sending a ballot, or by leaving the space blank, or by omiting the
line.  But, to change a previous YES or NO vote to a non-vote, you should
use the word ABSTAIN. 

If you vote YES, NO, or ABSTAIN, and later decide to abstain from all votes,
you may remove all evidence that you participated in the vote, by sending a
ballot containing CANCEL in the brackets of each line.  Your name will not
appear in the RESULTS posting, but the raw vote information is still retained.
Unless there is controversy after the vote is finished, the raw vote 
information is not viewed by anyone except the votetaker.

Don't worry about spacing, case, or any quote characters ">" that your
e-mail program inserts.  If you don't know how to copy the ballot into your
e-mail, you can re-type it by hand.  You must include:

    1.  the text "[SB-0003]"
    2.	the text "Give your real name here:" plus your name on the same line.

and, for each proposed newsgroup,

    3.	type just the special vote keyword (YES, NO) and the complete,
	correctly spelled name of the newsgroup, with EACH newsgroup vote
	on a separate line.  You MUST type these accurately, but you can
	skip any you intend to abstain on.


Again, the basic instructions:  Send e-mail to [email protected] 
In it, put the "ballot" text from between the "-=-=-=-" lines below (please
do not include the rest of this message).  Add your name after the text that
says "Give your real name here:" and, for each newsgroup, place a YES or NO
in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. 
 
And don't worry:  ask [email protected] for help if you need it.


-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Start of Ballot -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 
sci.bio.* Ballot    [SB-0003]
 
Give your real name here:
 
Your Vote   Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[       ]   sci.bio.ethology (from bit.listserv.ethology)
[       ]   sci.bio.herp
[       ]   sci.environment.biosphere (from bit.listserv.biosph-l)
 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- End of Ballot -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

BOUNCE ACK

All votes received have been acknowledged by email.  
Email acknowledgements of the following votes have bounced:

<[email protected]>  (Mike Kearsley)
[email protected]
-- 
Brenda J. Roder ([email protected])

From [email protected] Mon Jan  3 17:50:27 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,bit.admin,bit.listserv.biosph-l,bit.listserv.ethology,sci.bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.environment,rec.pets.herp,bionet.general,bionet.molbio.evolution
Subject: RESULT: sci.bio.{ethology,herp} pass, sci.environment.biosphere fails
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 3 Jan 1994 16:58:54 -0500
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 274
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected] (Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Account)
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4437 news.groups:91320 bit.admin:770 bit.listserv.biosph-l:5085 bit.listserv.ethology:467 sci.bio:16597 sci.bio.ecology:2595 sci.environment:39581 rec.pets.herp:13016 bionet.general:7419 bionet.molbio.evolution:1379

Proposed:

Rename  bit.listserv.ethology   to sci.bio.ethology
Create  sci.bio.herp
Rename  bit.listserv.biosph-l   to sci.environment.biosphere 

sci.bio.{ethology,herp}, sci.environment.biosphere results - 171 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 119    8 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : sci.bio.ethology
 128   13 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : sci.bio.herp
  96   13 :  Yes    No :    No : sci.environment.biosphere
 
   8 invalid votes

For sci.bio.ethology and sci.bio.herp, this margin is adequate for newgroup
creation. Barring serious controversy about the vote, the group will be
created about five days after this is posted.

The margin was not adequate for sci.environment.biosphere, it will not be
created and may not be proposed again for six months.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 2 Jan 1994.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  

Vote-taker's address:		[email protected] (Brenda J. Roder)
Group proponent's address:	[email protected] (Una Smith)

Newsgroup lines:

sci.bio.ethology                Animal behavior and behavioral ecology.
sci.bio.herp                    Biology of amphibians and reptiles.
sci.environment.biosphere       Study of the earth's biosphere.



CHARTERS

sci.bio.ethology:  for discussion of the scientific study of animal behavior
        and behavioral ecology.

sci.bio.herp:  for discussion of the natural history, biology, conservation,
        and scientific study of amphibians and reptiles.

sci.environment.biosphere:  for discussion of scientific research on the
        properties and dynamics of the earth's biosphere.

The newsgroups bit.listserv.biosph-l and bit.listserv.ethology are gated to
the LISTSERV mailing lists BIOSPH-L (Dave Phillips, [email protected]
is the list owner), and ETHOLOGY ([email protected] is the owner).
Each list has several hundred subscribers, who have been polled on the
question of changing the newsgroup names, and are generally in favor.  The
mailing lists would remain as they are;  only the names of the newsgroups
would change. 

It is expected that a mailing list will be gated to sci.bio.herp, as
extensive interest was expressed by biologists who do not have direct
access to Usenet at this time.  This newsgroup is proposed in addition
to rec.pets.herp because the traffic in rec.pets.herp would overwhelm
most e-mail subscribers.  The proposed mailing list owner, Michael Eisen,
[email protected], is now looking for a site to host the list.



VOTE ACK

*****
      Please don't use this voting list to generate a mailing list (from
      either the yes or no votes) -- voters are not necessarily interested
      in the topic voted on.
*****

sci.bio.{ethology,herp}, sci.environment.biosphere Final Vote Ack


                                              sci.environment.biosphere -----+
                                                           sci.bio.herp ----+|
                                                       sci.bio.ethology ---+||
                                                                           |||
[email protected]                                      Andrew Mossberg --Y
[email protected]                     Jeremy Creighton Ahouse YYY
[email protected]                                 Annemarie Jameson YYY
[email protected]                                        Anna Haynes -Y-
[email protected]                                      Alan McGowen YYY
[email protected]                                     Alfonso E. Urdaneta -Y-
[email protected]                                        John Alroy -Y-
[email protected]                                Amberle S Ferrian NNY
[email protected]                                           Andres Kuusk --Y
[email protected]                                     Andre Da Ngo YY-
[email protected]                               Arthur Chance YYY
[email protected]                                       Abdon Schmitt Y--
[email protected]                                     Allison Taylor Y--
[email protected]                                       Ray McKenzie YY-
[email protected]                               Jonathan Baron --N
[email protected]                                       Bob Beason YYY
[email protected]                                     William BEAUDOT YYY
[email protected]                 Robert F. Benningfield Jr. YYY
[email protected]                          Bernt Guldbrandtsen YYY
[email protected]                                        Brian Hayes YYY
bruce@TFS.COM                                             Bruce R. Mehlman -Y-
bw@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                            Bruce Waldman YY-
CAHAAS@VTVM1.BITNET                                         Carola A. Haas -Y-
chan@macpost.scar.utoronto.ca                            Leslie K. W. Chan Y--
charvey@csn.org                                                Chip Harvey YYY
childers@gab.unt.edu                                        James Childers YYY
chlamy@acpub.duke.edu                                     Elizabeth Harris -Y-
CHOPLIN@UNIV-TOURS.FR                                              CHOPLIN YYY
christian.steel@bio.uio.no                                 Christian Steel YYY
colby@biology.bu.edu                                           Chris Colby YY-
colin@snaefell.tamu.edu                                        Colin Allen YYY
craig@ucssun1.sdsu.edu                                     Craig R. Sadler Y--
davidsen@tmr.com                                             Bill Davidsen -Y-
dc5m+@andrew.cmu.edu                                     Daniel R. Cormier -Y-
dean2@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu                              Dean Pentcheff YYY
dhaynes@lonestar.utsa.edu                                     David Haynes -Y-
DJAEHNE@SJSUVM1.BITNET                                       Dennis Jaehne YYY
dobson@net.usuhs.mil                                        Michael Dobson YYY
donohue@netcom.com                                        Peter P. Donohue -Y-
drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu                                 Rebecca Drayer YYY
dstein@wam.umd.edu                                          David O. Stein YYY
duncan@loris.cisab.indiana.edu                              Shan D. Duncan YY-
DWEBSTER@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU                                   Dan Webster YY-
dws@forager.unl.edu                                         David Stephens YYN
DYETB@AHECAS.Colorado.EDU                                       Brian Dyet -N-
eisen%xtal220@harvard.harvard.edu                            Michael Eisen YYY
eisman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu                                      Eugene Eisman YYY
ej@white.stanford.edu                                      EJ Chichilnisky YYY
eli@zoology.washington.edu                                      Eli Holmes YYN
emcguire@dexnet.lonestar.org                                    Ed McGuire NNN
emv@mail.msen.com                                         Edward Vielmetti YYY
erhunt@ntsg.umt.edu                                                        --Y
Eric.Mathre@Corp.Sun.COM                                       Eric Mathre -Y-
etlsnfe@etlxd20.ericsson.se               simon featherstone xd/gdd x.4462 -Y-
ETTHC@CUNYVM.BITNET                                           Ethel Tobach YYY
ewilliam@itsmail1.hamilton.edu                             Ernest Williams YYY
finelli@rocky.geol.scarolina.edu                       Christopher Finelli YY-
fishe@casbah.acns.nwu.edu                                     Carwil James YYY
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu                              Sean P. Ryan YNY
fuy1@gl.umbc.edu                                                Francis Uy --N
G321964@cicei.ulpgc.es                                    ALDO-PIER SOLARI NNN
GGPERK01@ULKYVX.LOUISVILLE.EDU                           George G. Perkins YYY
h2co@odin.cc.pdx.edu                                  Candace S. O'Connor  YYY
hank@zoo.toronto.edu                     Henry Hong (hank@zoo.toronto.edu) YYY
HAROLD@fs1.psy.emory.edu                                  Harold Gouzoules YYY
hdpjo@chevron.com                                        Daniel P. Johnson -Y-
HSPENCER@rivendell.otago.ac.nz                           Hamish G. Spencer Y--
hyoshida@rib01.rib.okayama-u.ac.jp                          Hideya YOSHIDA YYY
hywang@apple.com                                             Hao-yang Wang YY-
IEI036G@tjuvm.tju.edu                                          Mark Miller YYY
IEP134M@TJUVM.TJU.EDU                                           Tia Morris -YY
IEV157X@TJUVM.TJU.EDU                                          Becky Brown YYY
IEY552Z@TJUVM.TJU.EDU                                       Denise Shapiro -Y-
iheedua!vmb@relay.NL.net                                    Vladan Babovic YNN
INSCHO@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu                                  Fred Inscho --N
IZZYQK4@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU                                     Thomas Ludwig YYY
jamison@merle.acns.nwu.edu                                                 --Y
Janette_W_BOUGHMAN@umail.umd.edu                  Janette Wenrick Boughman Y--
jbohrman@netcom.com                                           John Bohrman YYY
jdendulk@uoguelph.ca                                          Jan den Dulk YYY
jeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU                                  jonathan eisen YYY
jejans@Vax2.Concordia.CA                                     James E. Jans YYY
jgitomer@metamosh.clubfed.sgi.com                              Jay Gitomer -Y-
jhfische@indiana.edu                                       Janette Fischer YY-
jim@american.edu                                              Jim McIntosh YYY
Jolink@Macro.FEW.EUR.NL                                      Albert Jolink Y--
josephs@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU                                   Joseph Scott -Y-
josh@pogo.cqs.washington.edu                               Joshua A. Hayes YYY
joshua_lerner@csufresno.edu                               Joshua C. Lerner YYY
juparra@gel.ulaval.ca                                           juan parra YYY
JWANG@HMCVAX.Ac.HMC.Edu                                        Jocele Wang YYY
KBELL@hamp.hampshire.edu                                        Keith Bell YYY
keck@zookeeper.zoo.uga.edu                                       Paul Keck YYY
kersterhw@CCVAX.CCS.CSUS.EDU                             Harold W. Kerster YYY
kilty@ucrengr.ucr.edu                                    Kathleen Richards YYY
kinnaman@tenet.edu                                           Dave Kinnaman ---
klingham@mentor.cc.purdue.edu                          Kirsten Klinghammer YYY
klorenz@maroon.tc.umn.edu                                      Karl Lorenz YNY
kmorgan@wheatonma.edu                                      Kathleen Morgan YYY
L15D@ZFN.uni-bremen.de                                    Martin Schr"oder YYY
lachlan@dmp.csiro.au                                     Lachlan Cranswick YYY
laguna@mail.bucknell.edu                             Jonathan Novak Laguna YY-
LANGE@fwn.rug.nl                                           Willem de Lange YYY
larsond@mail.fws.gov                                          Diane Larson -Y-
larsonee@horton.Colorado.EDU                                   Earl Larson NY-
ldaly@acs.bu.edu                                                 Liza Daly -Y-
lew@ief.spb.su                                       Vladimir F. Levchenko --Y
lmalchik@phoenix.Princeton.EDU         Laulette Aleksandra (Sasha) Malchik YYY
lombardm@GVSU.EDU                                      Michael P. Lombardo YNN
lonadar@judy.indstate.edu                            Victor E Aldridge III N-N
mansson@alok.ufz.de                                      Dr. Bengt Mansson YYY
marc@world.std.com                                          Marc Dashevsky YYY
martin@orca.tamu.edu                                       Kimberly Martin Y--
mbalsai@mail.sas.upenn.edu                                     Mike Balsai YYY
mcbjjbj@leonis.nus.sg                                         Julian Blanc YYY
mcrafts@core1.hssc.ksc.nasa.gov                                            -N-
medwards@astro.Princeton.EDU                            Michael K. Edwards YYY
mgrochow@acpub.duke.edu                                Marianne Grochowski -Y-
MHOLLEY@galaxy.gov.bc.ca                                       Mona Holley --Y
mht@nuclint.nl                                              Marc ter Horst YYY
MKEARSLEY%ibr8smtp@bormgr0.usbr.gov                          Mike Kearsley NY-
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                      Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS YNY
morset@ccmail.orst.edu                                         Terry Morse -Y-
MPTAYLOR@rex.mnsmc.edu                                                     Y-Y
mrehberg@syr.edu                                        Michael J. Rehberg YYY
mrwarden@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                              Melissa Warden YYY
mwhitcombe@gn.apc.org                                       Mark Whitcombe --Y
ndallen@io.org                                                 Nigel Allen YYY
njarman@titan.ucs.umass.edu                                 Nancy M Jarman -Y-
PA136288@UTKVM1.BITNET                                        Sam Marshall YYY
PENDEJO@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu                                    John Simmons YYY
pholland@iastate.edu                                     Paul J. Hollander YYY
PMIDFORD@macc.wisc.edu                                       Peter Midford Y--
prevettp@gov.on.ca                                            Paul Prevett YYY
PXF3@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                                              Paula Ford YYY
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                  Michael Quinn YYY
RBIMUNGE@idbsu.idbsu.edu                                      James Munger -Y-
rdbarber@syr.edu                                             Robert Barber YYY
remcat@MIT.EDU                                       Rachel Emily Molenaar YY-
revu@midway.uchicago.edu                                  Sendhil Revuluri YNY
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                            Richard Miller NNN
rjs@NebrWesleyan.edu                                     Rosemary J. Smith Y--
RLAI@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU                                        Roger Lai YYY
sashazh@glas.apc.org                                     Alexander ZHUIKOV Y--
schwarz@TC.Cornell.EDU                                        Paul Schwarz YYY
seedman@iastate.edu                 John Turnipseed (seedman@iastate.edu)  -Y-
shackles@ren.psy.jhu.edu                               Scott A. Shackleton Y--
shane@spr.com                                                Shane Hartman NNN
simonb@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU                                   Simon Blomberg -Y-
SLINE@PHS.BGSM.WFU.EDU                                       Scott W. Line YYY
SMOSS@umassd.edu                                           Sanford A. Moss YYN
smtplink%MYOUNG_at_ATLAS@seawolf.alhrg.wpafb.af.mil          Michael Young Y--
SPLUHAR@CROP.UOGUELPH.CA                                 Stephen A. Pluhar YYY
STUDLGRN@ACS.EKU.EDU                                    Martha P. Dahlgren YY-
svasi@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu                                  Nathan Tenny -Y-
svolman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                             Susan Volman Y--
swildner@channelz.gun.de                                    Sascha Wildner YYY
thackerb@gov.on.ca                                           Bruce Thacker YYY
Timo.Rinne@hut.fi                                               Timo Rinne YYY
tndcunha@fox.cce.usp.br                            Tarcisio Neves da Cunha --Y
toddia@zoo.toronto.edu                                                     YY-
TUNCAY@TRCUNIV.BITNET                                       Tuncay Ozgunen -Y-
una@doliolum.biology.yale.edu                                    Una Smith YYY
WCBANTA@american.edu                                      William C. Banta YYY
WEILMR@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU                                     Michael R. Weil YYY
wfischer@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu                            Will Fischer YY-
whitlock@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca                            Jeremy Whitlock --Y
whitlock@tei.umass.edu                                  Alison L. Whitlock -Y-
yadallee@galcon.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca                         Dave Yadallee YYY
zikan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                              Marcio Zikan Cardoso Y--
zoosch@zoo.latrobe.edu.au                                     Simon Hudson -Y-


Votes in error
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AJMGC@CUNYVM.BITNET                                           logoff UNDEFIlED
   ! No ballot
dominiq@rice.cor2.epa.gov                                   Dominique Bachelet
   ! No votes
ez019741@dale.ucdavis.edu                                                     
   ! No ballot
fgonzale@badlands.NoDak.edu         and, for each newsgroup, place a YES or NO
   ! No votes
Gunther.Schauberger@vu-wien.ac.at                         Guenther Schauberger
   ! No ballot
luk@gio.izmiran.troitsk.su                                     Lubov Lukjanova
   ! No ballot
msg5y@darwin.clas.virginia.edu                           Michael Stephen Grace
   ! No ballot
pamstadt@icaen.uiowa.edu                                   Paul Joseph Amstadt
   ! No ballot
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Brenda J. Roder (roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov)

 
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