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From [email protected] Fri Sep 23 15:27:08 1994
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From: [email protected] (James Reginald Hester)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.lang
Subject: RFD: sci.lang.translation
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Group Name:   sci.lang.translation
Status:       Unmoderated
Distribution: Worldwide
Summary:      Forum for those interested in the problems, issues and
concerns of translators/interpreters.
Proposed by:  James Hester

                    Rationale:
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There has been some discussion recently in 'sci.lang' on the 
creation of a translation newsgroup.  A mailing list, LANTRA-L, 
already exists for professional translators.  However, recent high 
traffic on this mailing list has prompted calls for a newsgroup to be
created to facilitate processing of the large number of messages.  

Charter 
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The proposed group would provide a forum for those interested in the
problems, issues and concerns of translators/interpreters.  Examples 
of topics appropriate to this group are:

* Automated translation software
* Translation methods 
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language
pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters

This RFD is being posted to: sci.lang
                             news.announce.newgroups
                             news.groups
                             mailing list LANTRA-L

Please post it to any other groups who might be interested.

Discussion of this proposal will last for at least 3 weeks.  If a
charter is agreed upon, a call for votes (CFV) lasting a further 3
weeks will be conducted by a neutral third party.  Details will be
posted when and if this is about to occur.  
-- 
James Hester
[email protected]

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Nov 21 12:49:37 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: CFV: sci.lang.translation
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                    unmoderated group sci.lang.translation

Newsgroups line:
sci.lang.translation	Problems and concerns of translators/interpreters

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list    LANTRA-L on [email protected]

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact James Hester <[email protected]>


CHARTER


Examples of topics appropriate to this group are:

* Automated translation software
* Translation methods 
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.lang.translation
      I vote NO on sci.lang.translation

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Dec  1 15:37:40 1994
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Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.lang.translation
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                    unmoderated group sci.lang.translation

Newsgroups line:
sci.lang.translation    Problems and concerns of translators/interpreters

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list    LANTRA-L on [email protected]

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact James Hester <[email protected]>


CHARTER


Examples of topics appropriate to this group are:

* Automated translation software
* Translation methods 
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.lang.translation
      I vote NO on sci.lang.translation

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



sci.lang.translation Bounce List - No need to revote
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[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Dec 14 15:17:28 1994
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Subject: RESULT: sci.lang.translation passes 146:12
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				RESULT
	 unmoderated group sci.lang.translation passes 146:12

There were 146 YES votes and 12 NO votes, for a total of 158 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain and 2 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
sci.lang.translation    Problems and concerns of translators/interpreters

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact James Hester <[email protected]>


CHARTER


Examples of topics appropriate to this group are:

* Automated translation software
* Translation methods 
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters


sci.lang.translation Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                   Ahmet Turkistanli
[email protected]                                        Per N Dohler
[email protected]                                          Jose Casas
[email protected]                                    Marcus Williamson
[email protected]                                      Ian Tresman, UK
[email protected]                                     Nicholas Hartmann
[email protected]                                            Dan Lufkin
[email protected]                                        Vera Schoeters
[email protected]                                        Phil Cavanagh
[email protected]                                        Chiara Faglia
[email protected]                                      Gabe Bokor / NY
[email protected]                                              Jose L. Acosta
[email protected]                                                   Adrian Shaw
[email protected]                                       Colin R. Leech
[email protected]                          Ajay Gallewale - Contractor
[email protected]                                             Ananda M. Kar
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                      Kai-hsu Tai
[email protected]                                                  J. Kintscher
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                      Blair Zajac
[email protected]                                          Brian N. Larson
[email protected]                                                 Boudewijn
[email protected]                                                     ___root___
[email protected]                                               Beat Raemy
[email protected]                                               Bruce Baugh
[email protected]                        Carol Bloomquist Traxler
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                       Christopher Bradford Stone
[email protected]                                     Mrs. Julie Knoeller
[email protected]                                     Carole Heiman-Kezios
[email protected]                              Christopher Kronen
[email protected]                                          Faith J. Cormier
[email protected]                                                 Colin Bell
[email protected]                                              carl e snook
[email protected]                                        Donald J Marion
[email protected]                                             Daniel Graham
[email protected]                                         Daniel Brown [MSAI]
[email protected]                                            Daniel D. Dean
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                                Daniel Hartung
[email protected]                                        Dieter Kohl
[email protected]                               Don Richardson  ext. 2063 rm-4437B
[email protected]                           David Neal Miller
[email protected]                                                Daniel Radzinski
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[email protected]                                             David M Weeks
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[email protected]                                    Ellen K. Seebacher
[email protected]                                    M{k{r{inen Kimberli
[email protected]                                    Ann T. Mosconi
[email protected]                                             Eugene N. Miya
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
[email protected]                                       Margaret Marks
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[email protected]                                               John Fry
[email protected]                                                  Susan Geddes
[email protected]                                       EuGene epetai-Tramaglino
[email protected]                                        George m Fichter
[email protected]                                                  M. L. Grant
[email protected]                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
[email protected]                                               tif
[email protected]                                          Heidi Martens
[email protected]                                         Helmut Plant
[email protected]                                    Hartmut W. Malzahn
[email protected]                                         Heiko Zschernitz
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[email protected]                                 Joerg Czeranski
[email protected]                                    Irina Rempt-Drijfhout
[email protected]                                                  John Call
[email protected]                             James Alexander Chokey
[email protected]                                                 Jerry Ennis
[email protected]                                                 Jim Jewett
[email protected]                                        Jason K. Green
[email protected]                                                    John Beaven
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[email protected]                                                  Joe Clark
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[email protected]                                                  Josemina
[email protected]                                               Juan Parra
[email protected]                                  Kenji Rikitake
[email protected]                                               K.-Benoit Evans
[email protected]                                          Kristina Harris
[email protected]                                         Edward Korthof
[email protected]                                     Hugh LaMaster
[email protected]                                              Lantz Rowland
[email protected]                             Who Has the Reality Glenn
[email protected]                                         Richard Stanton
[email protected]                                               Wendi Dunlap
[email protected]                                Lyonette Louis-Jacques
[email protected]                                       Luc Masuy [TechWord]
[email protected]                                             Luc Deknock
[email protected]                                     Lutz Donnerhacke
[email protected]                                    Frutiger_M
[email protected]                               Marcel Grangier
[email protected]                                                martin fogel
[email protected]                                                Mark A Lilly
[email protected]                                                  jwm
[email protected]                                      Masja Kempen
[email protected]                                           Michelle de Raaij
[email protected]                                                   Michael Grubb
[email protected]                                  Mike Dannenberg
[email protected]                                 Margaret Mikulska
[email protected]                                          Martin Schroeder
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[email protected]                                            Meg Worley
[email protected]                                             Nathan Mehl
[email protected]                                        Matthias Neeracher
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[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
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[email protected]                                Robert E. Zabloudil
[email protected]                                           Olivier CREMEL
[email protected]                                              Mauro Olivieri
[email protected]                                       Bryan N. Orthner
[email protected]                                                  M. Otto
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[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                -Richard Loubejac - Language Assistant
[email protected]                                               Andrew Ostrovsky
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[email protected]                                               Bruce Tindall
[email protected]                                                  David Hall
[email protected]                                 The Great Pumpkin
[email protected]                                   Sergey Levin
[email protected]                                     Noel S. McFerran
[email protected]                                           Andrey Stesin
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[email protected]                                              Thomas Sherlock
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                           Tilman Mueller-Gerbes
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[email protected]                                                  Tony Roder
[email protected]                                      Torgeir Eye F{ravaag
[email protected]                                                Helj{ M{ntyranta
[email protected]                                                    Jyrki Lassila
[email protected]                                                  Mikko Kauppinen
[email protected]                                        Tim Pierce
[email protected]                                            Vjera Lopina
[email protected]                                         Vladimir Menkov
[email protected]                                                     Wiljo Heinen
[email protected]                                                 David Howard
[email protected]                                                          Xen
[email protected]                                             Yuval Kfir

Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Vincent Archer
[email protected]                                         Cory L. Scott
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                    Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                         Jeff C. Glover
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                                 Riley Brown
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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   ! Conflicting votes
[email protected]                                                       
   ! Conflicting votes

 
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