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From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 02:47:54 1992
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Subject: RFD:  sci.comp
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This is a Request For Discussion for an unmoderated group concerned  
with using computers in scientific research, particularly in the  
laboratory.

PROPOSED NAMES:	sci.comp
		sci.comp-aided
		sci.lab-comp
		sci.research.comp
		(etc.  Other ideas are welcome)
		
PROPOSED CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about:
	General use of computers in the laboratory.
	Scientific data acquisition.
	Using computers to plan experiments and predict outcomes.
	Controlling laboratory devices.
	Analyzing scientific data.
	Visualizing scientific data.
	Standards for scientific data formats.
	Standards for analytical instrument interfaces.
	Networked laboratory systems.
	LIMS (Laboratory Information Managemant Systems)


RATIONALE:
There are a lot of scientists using computers in the laboratory to  
aid them in doing scientific research.  Some have rigged up their own  
systems; others use commercial products; many more use some  
combination of the two.

The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various  
existing groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime  
systems, software, numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it  
all brought together.

Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market  
for laboratory computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and  
there is an appalling lack of standards for this stuff.

Some subjects from my work:
	Using a computer to control pumps, heaters, and centrifuges
	    according to a specific program.
	Generate a run program to produce a given amount of
	    separation in a minimum amount of time.
	Collecting data from experimental runs.
	Analyzing the data to deduce particle size distributions.
	Finding and analyzing peaks in the data.
	Displaying and manipulating all this information.
	
[Thanks to Dean Pentcheff for posting the article with these ideas:]
    Small-scale A/D systems added to general purpose computers.  For
        example, A/D boards for PCs and Macs.
    Lab experiment signal acquisition problems.  For example, noise
        in a neurophysiology rig, or problems with thermal mass of
	hot film flow sensors.
    Portable field data acquisition systems.  For example,
        combinations of portable PCs-with-slot and half-card A/D
	boards that could be used to gather intertidal microclimate
	data, or using both channels and multiple frequencies on a
	walkman to record multiple flow sensor readings underwater.

Comments are welcome, of course.

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From: [email protected] (Alex Dommasch)
Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.comp-aided
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This is a Request For Discussion for an unmoderated group concerned  
with using computers in science.

PROPOSED NAME:	sci.comp-aided
		
PROPOSED CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about:
	General use of computers in science:
	. Data acquisition.
	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes.
	. Controlling laboratory devices.
	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces.
	. Networked laboratory systems.
	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems)
	. Analyzing scientific data.
	. Visualizing scientific data.
	. Presenting scientific data.
	. Modelling physical processes.
	. Simulation of physical processes.
	. Numerical analysis of scientific data.
	. Algorithms for scientific computing.
	. Standards for scientific data formats.

RATIONALE:
Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their  
research.  This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple  
calculations, to using computers to control apparatus, to using a  
supercomputer to do molecular modelling, and everything in between.

Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use  
commercial products; many more use some combination of the two.

The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various  
existing groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime  
systems, software, numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it  
all brought together.

Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market  
for scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and  
there is an appalling lack of standards for this stuff.

As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in  
scientific research, the proposed name for the group is  
"sci.comp-aided"

Comments are welcome, of course. (Follow-ups to news.groups.)
-- 
Alex Dommasch, Programmer                    (801) 581-7168
Field-Flow Fractionation Research Center     FAX (801) 581-4353
Dept. of Chemistry, University of Utah
Salt Lake City, Utah 84112                   [email protected] (NeXT Mail)

From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 02:59:44 1992
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Subject: CFV:  sci.comp-aided
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This is a Call For Votes for an unmoderated group concerned with using  
computers in science.

NAME:	sci.comp-aided

STATUS:	unmoderated
		
CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about:
	General use of computers in science:
	. Data acquisition.
	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes.
	. Controlling laboratory devices.
	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces.
	. Networked laboratory systems.
	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems)
	. Analyzing scientific data.
	. Visualizing scientific data.
	. Presenting scientific data.
	. Modelling physical processes.
	. Simulation of physical processes.
	. Numerical analysis of scientific data.
	. Algorithms for scientific computing.
	. Standards for scientific data formats.

RATIONALE:
Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their research.   
This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple calculations, to  
using computers to control apparatus, to using a supercomputer to do  
molecular modelling, and everything in between.

Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use commercial  
products; many more use some combination of the two.

The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various existing  
groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime systems, software,  
numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it all brought together.

Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market for  
scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there is an  
appalling lack of standards for this stuff.

As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in  
scientific research, the proposed name for the group is "sci.comp-aided"

VOTING:

TO VOTE YES: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this  
article):
	with the words "YES" and "sci.comp-aided"
	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).

TO VOTE NO: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article):
	with the words "NO" and "sci.comp-aided"
	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).

Only votes mailed to the above address will be counted.  Ambiguous votes  
will be discarded.  In the case of multiple votes from a given person, only  
the last will be counted.

Only votes received before March 11, 11:59 PM MST, will be counted.

Alex Dommasch, Programmer				|--   
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From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:11:16 1992
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  sci.comp-aided
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This is the second Call For Votes on sci.comp-aided

Mass vote acknowledgement (as of 11:00 AM MST, February 18) is at the end of  
the article.  NOTE:  duplicate and ambiguous votes have NOT yet been removed.   
This will be done for the final vote tally.
--

This is a Call For Votes for an unmoderated group concerned with using  
computers in science.

NAME:	sci.comp-aided

STATUS:	unmoderated
		
CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about:
	General use of computers in science:
	. Data acquisition.
	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes.
	. Controlling laboratory devices.
	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces.
	. Networked laboratory systems.
	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems)
	. Analyzing scientific data.
	. Visualizing scientific data.
	. Presenting scientific data.
	. Modelling physical processes.
	. Simulation of physical processes.
	. Numerical analysis of scientific data.
	. Algorithms for scientific computing.
	. Standards for scientific data formats.

RATIONALE:
Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their research.   
This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple calculations, to using  
computers to control apparatus, to using a supercomputer to do molecular  
modelling, and everything in between.

Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use commercial  
products; many more use some combination of the two.

The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various existing  
groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime systems, software,  
numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it all brought together.

Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market for  
scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there is an  
appalling lack of standards for this stuff.

As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in  
scientific research, the proposed name for the group is "sci.comp-aided"

VOTING:

TO VOTE YES: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article):
	with the words "YES" and "sci.comp-aided"
	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).

TO VOTE NO: send mail to [email protected] (or reply to this article):
	with the words "NO" and "sci.comp-aided"
	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).

Only votes mailed to the above address will be counted.  Ambiguous votes will  
be discarded.  In the case of multiple votes from a given person, only the  
last will be counted.

Only votes received before March 11, 11:59 PM MST, will be counted.
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From alex@fff.chem.utah.edu Sat Apr  4 03:21:30 1992
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From: alex@fff.chem.utah.edu (Alex Dommasch)
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  sci.comp-aided
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This is the third Call For Votes and Vote Acknowledgement for  
sci.comp-aided.  Votes received as of Mar. 4, 12:00 PM MST, are listed at  
the end of this article.  NOTE:  duplicate and ambiguous votes have NOT yet  
been removed.  This will be done for the final vote tally.

----
This is a Call For Votes for an unmoderated group concerned with using  
computers in science.

NAME:	sci.comp-aided

STATUS:	unmoderated
		
CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about:
	General use of computers in science:
	. Data acquisition.
	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes.
	. Controlling laboratory devices.
	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces.
	. Networked laboratory systems.
	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems)
	. Analyzing scientific data.
	. Visualizing scientific data.
	. Presenting scientific data.
	. Modelling physical processes.
	. Simulation of physical processes.
	. Numerical analysis of scientific data.
	. Algorithms for scientific computing.
	. Standards for scientific data formats.

RATIONALE:
Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their research.   
This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple calculations, to using  
computers to control apparatus, to using a supercomputer to do molecular  
modelling, and everything in between.

Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use commercial  
products; many more use some combination of the two.

The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various existing  
groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime systems, software,  
numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it all brought together.

Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market for  
scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there is an  
appalling lack of standards for this stuff.

As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in  
scientific research, the proposed name for the group is "sci.comp-aided"

VOTING:

TO VOTE YES: send mail to alex@fff.chem.utah.edu (or reply to this article):
	with the words "YES" and "sci.comp-aided"
	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).

TO VOTE NO: send mail to alex@fff.chem.utah.edu (or reply to this article):
	with the words "NO" and "sci.comp-aided"
	in the subject line (preferable) or message body (acceptable).

Only votes mailed to the above address will be counted.  Ambiguous votes  
will be discarded.  In the case of multiple votes from a given person, only  
the last will be counted.

Only votes received before March 11, 11:59 PM MST, will be counted.

"Anders Holm" <anders.holm@elmat.lth.se>
"Barbara J. Kratz" <BJK111@psuvm.psu.edu>
"Bishara F. Shamee" <shamee@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Charles Geyer" <charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu>
"D.J.Laws" <D.J.Laws@newcastle.ac.uk>
"Gregory A. Landrum" <gl10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
"Jason Howat, Archimedes Fanatic" <HOWAT@waikato.ac.nz>
"Joseph I. Landman" <kil@pandora.cs.wayne.edu>
"MARY ELLEN VERONA" <verona@vax.mbhs.edu>
"Mark D. Gelinas" <nin15b43@lucy.merrimack.edu>
"R. Jayakrishnan" <jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu>
"Shaun Courtney"  <COURTNEY@physci.uct.ac.za>
"joshua louis bliss" <blis@midway.uchicago.edu>
<thawach@engin.umich.edu>
ALLENS@earlham.bitnet
ANAPL <SL2FN@cc.usu.edu>
Adam Gaither <adam@erc.msstate.edu>
Alistair Adcroft <alistair@plume.mit.edu>
BURKHOLD@ac.dal.ca
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Benny Lovstrom <bl@ttt.lth.se>
Blair Zajac <blair@seismo.gps.caltech.edu>
Brian Hayes - Sigma Xi <hayes@concert.net>
C.E.A.Cook@loughborough.ac.uk (Charles Cook)
CTHERON@nacdh3.nac.ac.za
Chengi  Lin <cl50@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
Christopher Scanlan <nuke@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Cynedd@cup.portal.com
Cyrus Jones <CYRUS@ccit.arizona.edu>
David Hansen <dhansen@cse.ogi.edu>
David Henry Fetter <shackle@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
David Maxwell <dave@rassilon.chem.yale.edu>
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Peeter Burk <peeter@tuc.tartu.ew.su>
Peter Carleson <carleson@apee.ogi.edu>
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
R Piltz <egnp21@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk>
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Subject: RESULT:  sci.comp-aided passes 245: 20
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"sci.comp-aided" passed by a large margin.  There were 245 valid YES
votes and 20 valid NO votes.  According to Usenet policies, this group
should be created after a 5 day waiting period.  Any comments should
be forwarded to news.groups

The charter is repeated here.  Lists of NO votes and YES votes are
listed below the charter.

NAME:	sci.comp-aided

STATUS:	unmoderated
		
CHARTER:  To discuss and share information about:
	General use of computers in science:
	. Data acquisition.
	. Planning experiments and predicting outcomes.
	. Controlling laboratory devices.
	. Standards for analytical instrument interfaces.
	. Networked laboratory systems.
	. LIMS (Laboratory Information Management Systems)
	. Analyzing scientific data.
	. Visualizing scientific data.
	. Presenting scientific data.
	. Modelling physical processes.
	. Simulation of physical processes.
	. Numerical analysis of scientific data.
	. Algorithms for scientific computing.
	. Standards for scientific data formats.

RATIONALE: 

Many scientists routinely use computers in the course of their
research.  This use ranges from using a spreadsheet to do simple
calculations, to using computers to control apparatus, to using a
supercomputer to do molecular modelling, and everything in between.

Some scientists have rigged up their own systems; others use
commercial products; many more use some combination of the two.

The various aspects of this subject are touched upon by various
existing groups (general computer systems, electronics, realtime
systems, software, numerical analysis, etc., etc.), but nowhere is it
all brought together.

Also, there is a wide variety of software and hardware on the market
for scientific computing, but most of it is vendor specific, and there
is an appalling lack of standards for this stuff.

As the subject of this group would concern using computers to aid in
scientific research, the proposed name for the group is
"sci.comp-aided".

NO votes (20):

"Stuart L Labovitz" <stu@valinor.mythical.com>
David Wright <D.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk>
Don Wunsch <dwunsch@atc.boeing.com>
Don.Johnston@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Jeff Longmate <longmate@stat.ufl.edu>
Kristian Ejvind  <krej@electrum.kth.se>
Norman Yarvin <yarvin-norman@cs.yale.edu>
acs97393@zach.fit.edu ( SNEERINGER)
bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
cristy@eplrx7.es.dupont.com (Cristy)
emcguire@ccad.uiowa.edu (Ed McGuire)
jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles)
koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Quincey Koziol)
martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.edu (mehta)
mike@upolu.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mike Jones)
miller@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (P.J. Boulay )
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
slagle@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
----

YES votes (245):

"Anders Holm" <anders.holm@elmat.lth.se>
"Barbara J. Kratz" <BJK111@psuvm.psu.edu>
"Bishara F. Shamee" <shamee@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Charles Geyer" <charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu>
"D.J.Laws" <D.J.Laws@newcastle.ac.uk>
"Dorn W. Peterson" <dwp2j@fulton.seas.virginia.edu>
"Gregory A. Landrum" <gl10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
"Jason Howat, Archimedes Fanatic" <HOWAT@waikato.ac.nz>
"John K. Dickinson" <jkdickin@yoho.waterloo.edu>
"Joseph I. Landman" <kil@pandora.cs.wayne.edu>
"Lothar Fritsch" <fritsch@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de>
"MARY ELLEN VERONA" <verona@vax.mbhs.edu>
"Mark D. Gelinas" <nin15b43@lucy.merrimack.edu>
"R. Jayakrishnan" <jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu>
"Shaun Courtney"  <COURTNEY@physci.uct.ac.za>
"WILLIAM E. BLASS" <BBLASS@utkvx.utk.edu>
"john  watts" <stuw@midway.uchicago.edu>
"joshua louis bliss" <blis@midway.uchicago.edu>
<thawach@engin.umich.edu>
ALLENS@earlham.bitnet
ANAPL <SL2FN@cc.usu.edu>
Adam C. Finnefrock <acf@rice.edu>
Adam Gaither <adam@erc.msstate.edu>
Alistair Adcroft <alistair@plume.mit.edu>
BAHADUR%SEI@ramoth.usc.edu
BURKHOLD@ac.dal.ca
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Benny Lovstrom <bl@ttt.lth.se>
Blair Zajac <blair@seismo.gps.caltech.edu>
Brian Hayes - Sigma Xi <hayes@concert.net>
C.E.A.Cook@loughborough.ac.uk (Charles Cook)
CARNEYE@novell.boystown.org (Edward Carney)
CTHERON@nacdh3.nac.ac.za
Chengi  Lin <cl50@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
Christopher Scanlan <nuke@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Claude Errera <errera@ese3.ese.ogi.edu>
Cynedd@cup.portal.com
Cyrus Jones <CYRUS@ccit.arizona.edu>
David Hansen <dhansen@cse.ogi.edu>
David Henry Fetter <shackle@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
David Maxwell <dave@rassilon.chem.yale.edu>
Eric Edward Moore <em21+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Esa Haapaniemi <eha@phoenix.oulu.fi>
Fred the Ranger <PGHEIT01@ulkyvx03.louisville.edu>
GEOFF LANE <SRPDGAL@pnv.dsir.govt.nz>
George Hartzell <hartzell@genome.stanford.edu>
Gerald Edgar <gwe3409@atc.boeing.com>
Greg Franklin <F67709317@ccit.arizona.edu>
Greg Radke <TNF70@isuevax.iastate.edu>
HATAY FERHAT F <hatay@spot.colorado.edu>
Ian M Thomas <Ian.Thomas@brunel.ac.uk>
JAMES C. MULLOY <mulloy@umdnj.edu>
JOEC@gnl.ucdavis.edu
James Mihaychuk <jamesm@physics.utoronto.ca>
Jaroslav.Liptak@rcvie.co.at (Jaroslav Liptak)
Jeffrey S Linder <jlinder@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Jesper Gluckstad <gluckstad@risoe.dk>
Joel B Levin <levin@bbn.com>
Joerg Mensing <jrg@specs.de>
John Hannon <jph2u@holmes.acc.virginia.edu>
Johnny Nordvik <johnn@math.uio.no>
Jonas_Marten_Fjallstam@cup.portal.com
Jyrki Kimmel <kimmel@cortex.sai.vtt.fi>
KELLER@NSSL.GCN.uoknor.edu (Lord Dave)
Kenneth I. Laws <laws@ai.sri.com>
Kevin Gardner <gardner@cadmium.med.yale.edu>
Lab Automation & Instrument Design Group <LAID%VTCC1.bitnet@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu>
M.WATERWORTH@qut.edu.au
MARY AHNGER <@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu:MEA@lal>
Magnus Olsson <magnus@thep.lu.se>
Marc J. Byrd <byrd@rice.edu>
Marcus Jager  <marcus@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Mark E. Davis <mdavis@me.rochester.edu>
Martin Aylett <maylett@srd.bt.co.uk>
Maximilian Joachim Paul Zedtwitz <mzedtwit@iiic.ethz.ch>
Michael  Kubovy <mk9y@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
Michael Giddings <giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu>
Michael J. Konopik <zzz@erg.sri.com>
Michele Rizack <mcr@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
NHURLEY@vax1.tcd.ie
Nathan Siemers <nathan@chemres.tn.cornell.edu>
Nuno Oliveira <no05+@andrew.cmu.edu>
PMH2962@zeus.tamu.edu
Patrice Parris <parris@mtl.mit.edu>
Patrick E Fleming <pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Paul J. Schinder <schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Paul Palmer <palmerp@math.orst.edu>
Peeter Burk <peeter@tuc.tartu.ew.su>
Peter Carleson <carleson@apee.ogi.edu>
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
R Piltz <egnp21@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk>
Raul.Valdes-Perez@carmen.kbs.cs.cmu.edu
Robert Burr MSEE PhD <bobburr@u.washington.edu>
Roy Underhill <roy@zooks.eng.mcmaster.ca>
Rupert Fuller <rgfuller@unix2.tcd.ie>
STEVEN HO <ELEE1XX@jetson.uh.edu>
Scott Barney <scott@cs.sfu.ca>
Scott Crosbie <crosbie@cs.unc.edu>
Stan_Gruszka@mindlink.bc.ca (Stan Gruszka)
T15710%nckuvx.dnet@cc-dec1.ncku.edu.tw
Tero.Siili@fmi.fi
Tim Nickles <tnickles@foghorn.colorado.edu>
Tim_Bates@bio.aukuni.ac.nz
Timothy Gerald Harrnacker <tgh3_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Todd M. Miller <tmiller@sci.kun.nl>
Tom Bj|rkholm <TBJORKHOLM@finabo.abo.fi>
Tom Rattray <tomr@spider.co.uk>
Tony Wallis <tony@nexus.yorku.ca>
VANBALLE@physci.uct.ac.za
Vijay S. Tripathi <vijay@hydro.saic.com>
Warren L Kovach <wlk@aberystwyth.ac.uk>
Wim-Jan Hilgenbos <wimjan@sci.kun.nl>
Yaacov Fenster  17-Feb-1992 1524 <fenster@taveng.enet.dec.com>
ZHAOHUI YANG <Y1@ecl.psu.edu>
a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin)
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aharon@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Aharon Friedman)
ahb@gene.com (Ann Benninger)
alekseev@nw.oirtorm.net.kiae.su
am299cp@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (ashok machcha)
andre@rail.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut)
asp@trail.sharpstone.com (Alexandre Sasha Polozoff)
barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James C. Barrett)
bas@phys.uva.nl (Bas de Bakker)
bathurst@phoenix.princeton.edu
bh419@cleveland.freenet.edu (Ted B Samsel)
bjr@po.cwru.edu (Brian J. Roberts)
boll@keps.kodak.com (Harold Boll)
bscott@theory.pppl.gov (Bruce Scott)
burow@cernvax.cern.ch (burkhard burow)
cfrbj@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Bob Jorstad)
chess@athena.mit.edu
cjf@inf.rl.ac.uk
combs@immunex.wa.com
crpi!joel@uunet.uu.net (Joel C. Justen)
cs00pfs@unccvax.uncc.edu (p. schell)
dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams)
ddj2@cec2.wustl.edu (David Donald Jensen)
dean2@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dean Pentcheff)
deck@inland.com
dem@violet.berkeley.edu (Romy Bauer)
disbrow@otis.dfrf.nasa.gov (Jim Disbrow)
djoyce@black.clarku.edu (David E. Joyce)
doug@wakajawaka.rsmas.miami.edu (Douglas A. Stewart)
dskinner@cie.uoregon.edu (Dale Skinner)
dursi@clavius.stmarys.ca (Jonathan Dursi)
e9118@etlcom1.etl.go.jp (Harigaya Kikuo)
edsdrd!gss@uunet.uu.net (Gary Schiltz)
erwin@cvt12.verfahrenstechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Erwin Dieterich)
esm@che.utexas.edu (Edward Scott Meadows)
first@mech.kuleuven.ac.be
fred@gene.com (Fred Miller)
frederik@lambert.acs.uci.edu
gdl@helix.nih.gov (G. David Lange)
georg@geki.toppoint.de (Georg Hoermann)
ghanem@eng.buffalo.edu (roger g ghanem)
gkb1@tower.york.ac.uk (Graham Barlow)
gmartin@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (George Martin)
gondwana@athena.mit.edu
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