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From [email protected] Sun Nov 14 15:58:00 1999
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Scott Nelson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.electronics.misc,sci.engr,sci.stat.math
Subject: RFD: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: sci.crypt.random-numbers
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:49:55 GMT
Lines: 57
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11204 news.groups:333997 sci.crypt:107222 sci.math:296707 sci.physics:379965 sci.electronics.misc:55041 sci.engr:41612 sci.stat.math:24115

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              unmoderated group sci.crypt.random-numbers

Newsgroup line:
sci.crypt.random-numbers	Discussion of random numbers and their creation.

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup sci.crypt.random-numbers.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

RATIONALE: sci.crypt.random-numbers

There is no appropriate newsgroup for the discussion of random numbers
and their generation.  Such discussions currently takes place in
several different groups, and generally annoys the majority of those
groups readerships.  sci.crypt receives more post on this subject than
any other newsgroup, and for legacy reasons I suggest placing the
group under the sci.crypt hierarchy., despite the many other
hierarchies which might claim title to the topic.

CHARTER: sci.crypt.random-numbers

sci.crypt.random-numbers is for the discussion of random number
generators,both "true" (hardware) and "pseudo" (software), and
anything else related to the science of randomness.  Fit topics
include but are not limited to; New designs and questions about
hardware and software random number generators.  Questions about the
nature of randomness and the definition of randomness.  This is NOT a
place to post lists of random numbers.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,sci.math,sci.physics,
sci.electronics.misc,sci.engr,sci.stat.math

Proponent: Scott Nelson <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Mon Nov 22 13:29:07 1999
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Scott Nelson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,sci.math,sci.physics,sci.electronics.misc,sci.engr,sci.stat.math
Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.misc.random-numbers
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: sci.misc.random-numbers
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:19:46 GMT
Lines: 73
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:11223 news.groups:335426 sci.crypt:108013 sci.math:298346 sci.physics:381878 sci.electronics.misc:55444 sci.engr:41687 sci.stat.math:24211

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
              unmoderated group sci.misc.random-numbers

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup sci.misc.random-numbers.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

CHANGES from previous RFD:

The name (location) was changed from sci.crypt.random-numbers to
sci.misc.random-numbers.  "and" was replaced with "or" in the charter.

Newsgroup line:
sci.misc.random-numbers	Random numbers and their creation.

RATIONALE: sci.misc.random-numbers

There is no appropriate newsgroup for the discussion of random numbers
and their generation.  Such discussions currently takes place in
several different groups, and generally annoys the majority of those
groups readerships.  Because of the broad nature of the topic, this
group doesn't fit well into any of the existing hierarchies hence it's
placement under sci.misc.

sci.math.random-numbers seems inappropriate because the discussion of
how to build hardware to collect random-numbers isn't a "math" topic.

sci.crypt is where most of the discussion of this topic had taken
place, but random-numbers aren't limited to cryptography.  In
particular, new psuedo random numbers are rarely cryptographically
secure, but of interest.

sci.random-numbers seems inappropriate since the expected volume of
traffic doesn't warrent a top-level hierarchy.

CHARTER: sci.misc.random-numbers

sci.misc.random-numbers is for the discussion of random number
generators, both "true" (hardware) and "pseudo" (software), or
anything else related to the science of randomness.  Fit topics
include but are not limited to; New designs and questions about
hardware or software random number generators.  Questions about the
nature of randomness or the definition of randomness.  This is NOT a
place to post lists of random-numbers.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from 14 Nov 1999 23:49:55 GMT, when
the first RFD for this proposal was posted to
news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be
posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please
do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,sci.math,sci.physics,
sci.electronics.misc,sci.engr,sci.stat.math

Proponent: Scott Nelson <[email protected]>
 
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