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From [email protected] Tue Jan 27 18:00:09 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jim Varney <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro.planetarium,sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy
Subject: RFD: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe
Followup-To: news.groups
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
        unmoderated group sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

Newsgroup line:
sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe	Visually observing artificial satellites.

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup
sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe.  This is not a Call for
Votes(CFV); you cannot vote at this time.  Procedural details are
below.

RATIONALE: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

The proposed newsgroup is intended to provide a forum for exchange of
information and dicussion about all topics related to the visual
observation of artificial satellites.  There is currently no newsgroup
to discuss satellite observing.  Interest in this topic is high, as
evidenced by the large number of postings (on various less-suitable
newsgroups such as sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle) about
sightings of the Iridium satellites, Space Station Mir, the Space
Shuttle, and requests for the identification of unknown satellites.
The Visual Satellite Observer's Home Page web site
(http://www.satellite.eu.org/sat/vsohp/satintro.html) is averaging
15,000 hits a month.

Currently the main forum for discussions on this topic is the
unmoderated SeeSat-L mailing list
<[email protected]>.  This list is growing
continuously and now has over 450 members, with a volume of up to
25 messages per day.  Although unmoderated, SeeSat-L is monitored by
the list owner.  Messages with a high information content, such as
observations and orbital elements, are encouraged.  Protracted
discussions are discouraged.

Many of the SeeSat-L messages do not fit in any of the existing Usenet
newsgroups.   The sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe newsgroup would
allow a larger group of satellite observers to exchange information
and have broader discussions about visual satellite observing.
Creation of this newsgroup would reduce the number of inappropriate
postings about satellite observations to newsgroups such as
sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle.

The intent of this newsgroup is not to replace the SeeSat-L mailing
list.  SeeSat-L will remain unchanged to provide a medium for timely
news and messages with high information content.

CHARTER: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe is an unmoderated forum for
discussion and exchange of information about visual observing of
artificial satellites.  Possible topics include (list is not exhaustive):

- reports of observations of artificial satellites (manned and
  unmanned) and space probes using naked eye, binoculars, telescopes,
  video, or photography
- orbital elements of satellites of current interest (new satellites,
  satellites about to reenter the atmosphere, maneuvering satellites,
  etc)
- announcements of planned and recent launches
- visibility predictions for artificial satellites
- predictions of the decay (atmospheric reentry) of artificial
  satellites
- discussions about software related to predictions/analysis of visual
  observations of artificial satellites
- instruments and techniques for visual observations of artificial
  satellites
- results/reports of observational programs, such as the positional
  measurements program of the UK Optical Tracking Working Group; the
  flash period measurements program of the Belgian Working Group
  Satellites; the informal spy satellite tracking program
- results of scientific studies using visual observations of
  artificial satellites

The following types of articles are not part of the charter:

- non-visual artificial satellite observing (i.e. radio)
- articles which contain personal attacks of any sort, ad hominem
  arguments, etc.
- blank messages, test messages, MAKE.MONEY.FAST, binaries, uuencoded
  messages
- advertisements not related to artificial satellite observing.

Discussions about technical aspects of payloads or rockets are
acceptable, but only if they are branched off of an observation or are
limited in scope, detail and length.  Articles containing discussions
of radio observations are not welcome, unless they are tied in with
visual observations.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to
these documents(available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.groups,
news.announce.newgroups, sci.astro, sci.astro.amateur,
sci.astro.planetarium, sci.space.shuttle, sci.space.policy.

This message will also be sent to the following mailing list after the
RFD has appeared in news.announce.newgroups:

SeeSat-L  [email protected]

Follow-ups have been directed to news.groups. Please honor that and
keep the discussion to news.groups.

PROPONENTS:

Proponent: Jim Varney <[email protected]>
Proponent: Jay Respler <[email protected]>
Proponent: Bart De Pontieu <[email protected]> (SeeSat-L list owner)
Proponent: Jeff Hunt <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Wed Feb 18 12:46:12 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: David Bostwick <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro.planetarium,sci.space.policy,sci.space.shuttle
Subject: CFV: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 12 Mar 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:36:18 GMT
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Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9791 news.groups:271916 sci.astro:166943 sci.astro.amateur:90638 sci.astro.planetarium:5025 sci.space.policy:70441 sci.space.shuttle:56191

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
        unmoderated group sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

Instructions for voting are just before the ballot itself.  Please read
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Newsgroups line:
sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe	Visually observing artificial satellite.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Mar 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Jim Varney <[email protected]>
Proponent: Jay Respler <[email protected]>
Proponent: Bart De Pontieu <[email protected]>
Proponent: Jeff Hunt <[email protected]>
Mentor: Ilana Stern <[email protected]>

Votetaker: David Bostwick <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

The proposed newsgroup is intended to provide a forum for exchange of
information and dicussion about all topics related to the visual
observation of artificial satellites.  There is currently no newsgroup
to discuss satellite observing.  Interest in this topic is high, as
evidenced by the large number of postings (on various less-suitable
newsgroups such as sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle) about
sightings of the Iridium satellites, Space Station Mir, the Space
Shuttle, and requests for the identification of unknown satellites.
The Visual Satellite Observer's Home Page web site
(http://www.satellite.eu.org/sat/vsohp/satintro.html) is averaging
15,000 hits a month.  Currently the main forum for discussions on
this topic is the unmoderated SeeSat-L mailing list
<[email protected]>.

Many of the SeeSat-L messages do not fit in any of the existing Usenet
newsgroups.   The sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe newsgroup would
allow a larger group of satellite observers to exchange information
and have broader discussions about visual satellite observing.
Creation of this newsgroup would reduce the number of inappropriate
postings about satellite observations to newsgroups such as
sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle.

CHARTER: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

Sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe is an unmoderated forum for
discussion and exchange of information about visual observing of
artificial satellites.  Possible topics include (list is not exhaustive):

- reports of observations of artificial satellites (manned and
  unmanned) and space probes using naked eye, binoculars, telescopes,
  video, or photography
- orbital elements of satellites of current interest (new satellites,
  satellites about to reenter the atmosphere, maneuvering satellites,
  etc)
- announcements of planned and recent launches
- visibility predictions for artificial satellites
- predictions of the decay (atmospheric reentry) of artificial
  satellites
- discussions about software related to predictions/analysis of visual
  observations of artificial satellites
- instruments and techniques for visual observations of artificial
  satellites
- results/reports of observational programs, such as the positional
  measurements program of the UK Optical Tracking Working Group; the
  flash period measurements program of the Belgian Working Group
  Satellites; the informal spy satellite tracking program
- results of scientific studies using visual observations of
  artificial satellites

The following types of articles are not part of the charter:

- non-visual artificial satellite observing (i.e. radio)
- articles which contain personal attacks of any sort, ad hominem
  arguments, etc.
- blank messages, test messages, MAKE.MONEY.FAST, binaries, uuencoded
  messages
- advertisements not related to artificial satellite observing.

Discussions about technical aspects of payloads or rockets are
acceptable, but only if they are branched off of an observation or are
limited in scope, detail and length.  Articles containing discussions
of radio observations are not welcome, unless they are tied in with
visual observations.

END CHARTER.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

Only one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate votes
will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be listed in the final voting results post.

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forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI
forms are considered to be anonymous votes.

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receiving an acknowledgement of your vote.  If the address cannot be
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uninterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
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From [email protected] Mon Mar  2 07:15:04 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: David Bostwick <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro.planetarium,sci.space.policy,sci.space.shuttle
Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 12 Mar 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 15:00:22 GMT
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
        unmoderated group sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

Instructions for voting are just before the ballot itself.  Please read
them before voting.  If you have questions about the voting process,
ask the votetaker.

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or CFVs provided by anyone except the votetaker will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe	Visually observing artificial satellite.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Mar 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Jim Varney <[email protected]>
Proponent: Jay Respler <[email protected]>
Proponent: Bart De Pontieu <[email protected]>
Proponent: Jeff Hunt <[email protected]>
Mentor: Ilana Stern <[email protected]>

Votetaker: David Bostwick <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

The proposed newsgroup is intended to provide a forum for exchange of
information and dicussion about all topics related to the visual
observation of artificial satellites.  There is currently no newsgroup
to discuss satellite observing.  Interest in this topic is high, as
evidenced by the large number of postings (on various less-suitable
newsgroups such as sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle) about
sightings of the Iridium satellites, Space Station Mir, the Space
Shuttle, and requests for the identification of unknown satellites.
The Visual Satellite Observer's Home Page web site
(http://www.satellite.eu.org/sat/vsohp/satintro.html) is averaging
15,000 hits a month.  Currently the main forum for discussions on
this topic is the unmoderated SeeSat-L mailing list
<[email protected]>.

Many of the SeeSat-L messages do not fit in any of the existing Usenet
newsgroups.   The sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe newsgroup would
allow a larger group of satellite observers to exchange information
and have broader discussions about visual satellite observing.
Creation of this newsgroup would reduce the number of inappropriate
postings about satellite observations to newsgroups such as
sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle.

CHARTER: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

Sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe is an unmoderated forum for
discussion and exchange of information about visual observing of
artificial satellites.  Possible topics include (list is not exhaustive):

- reports of observations of artificial satellites (manned and
  unmanned) and space probes using naked eye, binoculars, telescopes,
  video, or photography
- orbital elements of satellites of current interest (new satellites,
  satellites about to reenter the atmosphere, maneuvering satellites,
  etc)
- announcements of planned and recent launches
- visibility predictions for artificial satellites
- predictions of the decay (atmospheric reentry) of artificial
  satellites
- discussions about software related to predictions/analysis of visual
  observations of artificial satellites
- instruments and techniques for visual observations of artificial
  satellites
- results/reports of observational programs, such as the positional
  measurements program of the UK Optical Tracking Working Group; the
  flash period measurements program of the Belgian Working Group
  Satellites; the informal spy satellite tracking program
- results of scientific studies using visual observations of
  artificial satellites

The following types of articles are not part of the charter:

- non-visual artificial satellite observing (i.e. radio)
- articles which contain personal attacks of any sort, ad hominem
  arguments, etc.
- blank messages, test messages, MAKE.MONEY.FAST, binaries, uuencoded
  messages
- advertisements not related to artificial satellite observing.

Discussions about technical aspects of payloads or rockets are
acceptable, but only if they are branched off of an observation or are
limited in scope, detail and length.  Articles containing discussions
of radio observations are not welcome, unless they are tied in with
visual observations.

END CHARTER.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

Only one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate votes
will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be listed in the final voting results post.

Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI
forms are considered to be anonymous votes.

The use of spam blockers or other munged addresses will prevent you from
receiving an acknowledgement of your vote.  If the address cannot be
verified, the ballot will be disallowed.

Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It is your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
uninterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  Instead, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the
"BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry
about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please do not send the entire CFV back to me.

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide a valid name and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: <[email protected]>.
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From [email protected] Thu Mar 12 14:45:11 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: David Bostwick <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.astro,sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro.planetarium,sci.space.policy,sci.space.shuttle
Subject: RESULT: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe passes 250:20
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Archive-Name: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:31:24 GMT
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                                RESULT
 unmoderated group sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe passes 250:20

There were 250 YES votes and 20 NO votes, for a total of 270 valid votes.
There were 2 abstains and 7 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe	Visually observing artificial satellite.

The voting period ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Mar 1998.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Jim Varney <[email protected]>
Proponent: Jay Respler <[email protected]>
Proponent: Bart De Pontieu <[email protected]>
Proponent: Jeff Hunt <[email protected]>
Mentor: Ilana Stern <[email protected]>

Votetaker: David Bostwick <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

The proposed newsgroup is intended to provide a forum for exchange of
information and dicussion about all topics related to the visual
observation of artificial satellites.  There is currently no newsgroup
to discuss satellite observing.  Interest in this topic is high, as
evidenced by the large number of postings (on various less-suitable
newsgroups such as sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle) about
sightings of the Iridium satellites, Space Station Mir, the Space
Shuttle, and requests for the identification of unknown satellites.
The Visual Satellite Observer's Home Page web site
(http://www.satellite.eu.org/sat/vsohp/satintro.html) is averaging
15,000 hits a month.  Currently the main forum for discussions on
this topic is the unmoderated SeeSat-L mailing list
<[email protected]>.

Many of the SeeSat-L messages do not fit in any of the existing Usenet
newsgroups.   The sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe newsgroup would
allow a larger group of satellite observers to exchange information
and have broader discussions about visual satellite observing.
Creation of this newsgroup would reduce the number of inappropriate
postings about satellite observations to newsgroups such as
sci.astro.amateur and sci.space.shuttle.

CHARTER: sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe

Sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe is an unmoderated forum for
discussion and exchange of information about visual observing of
artificial satellites.  Possible topics include (list is not exhaustive):

- reports of observations of artificial satellites (manned and
  unmanned) and space probes using naked eye, binoculars, telescopes,
  video, or photography
- orbital elements of satellites of current interest (new satellites,
  satellites about to reenter the atmosphere, maneuvering satellites,
  etc)
- announcements of planned and recent launches
- visibility predictions for artificial satellites
- predictions of the decay (atmospheric reentry) of artificial
  satellites
- discussions about software related to predictions/analysis of visual
  observations of artificial satellites
- instruments and techniques for visual observations of artificial
  satellites
- results/reports of observational programs, such as the positional
  measurements program of the UK Optical Tracking Working Group; the
  flash period measurements program of the Belgian Working Group
  Satellites; the informal spy satellite tracking program
- results of scientific studies using visual observations of
  artificial satellites

The following types of articles are not part of the charter:

- non-visual artificial satellite observing (i.e. radio)
- articles which contain personal attacks of any sort, ad hominem
  arguments, etc.
- blank messages, test messages, MAKE.MONEY.FAST, binaries, uuencoded
  messages
- advertisements not related to artificial satellite observing.

Discussions about technical aspects of payloads or rockets are
acceptable, but only if they are branched off of an observation or are
limited in scope, detail and length.  Articles containing discussions
of radio observations are not welcome, unless they are tied in with
visual observations.

END CHARTER.

sci.astro.satellites.visual-observe Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                        Dennis Bishop
[email protected]                                 Alexander Seidel
[email protected]                                                    Art Allen
[email protected]                                                Andres Espejo J.
[email protected]                                                Akkana Peck
[email protected]                                     Andre Knoefel
[email protected]                                              Alan
[email protected]                                            Alan Pickup
[email protected]                                      Alan J. Livingston
[email protected]                                         Andre Beckus
[email protected]                                        David M. Anderson
[email protected]                                        Andrew Burdette
[email protected]                                      Andy Peterson
[email protected]                                    April L. Labrecque
[email protected]                                         Stephanie da Silva
[email protected]                                Ashley Martin
[email protected]                                           Blaine McCullough
[email protected]                                                Ron Rennie
[email protected]                                            Adam Sunshine
[email protected]                                                 Dave Atherton
[email protected]                                                   Alexander Welz
[email protected]                                              Magnus Backstrom
[email protected]                                                  Daryl L. Bahls
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[email protected]                                     Douglas S. Dawson III
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[email protected]                                  Christopher Gladman
[email protected]                                     Christopher Robin Zimmerman
[email protected]                                               Chris Ebenezer
[email protected]                                       Clay Bonham Jr.
[email protected]                               Neil Clifford
[email protected]                                      Christopher Conley
[email protected]                                               Mark Chandler
[email protected]                                                    Ross Eddie
[email protected]                                       David A. Kilham
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[email protected]                                                 Darren Tay
[email protected]                                                 David Farrar
[email protected]                                                 Bill Davidsen
[email protected]                                             David Eck
[email protected]                                          Douglas Biggerstaff
[email protected]                                                       Dave Beal
[email protected]                                              Dante D'Elia
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[email protected]                                           Colin Drescher
[email protected]                                       Russell D. Eberst
[email protected]                                              Ed Cannon
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[email protected]                                                  Belinda
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[email protected]                                                 Frank Reed
[email protected]                                          Francis Breame
[email protected]                              Robert G Fenske, Jr
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[email protected]                                        Frank Pliquett
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[email protected]                                         Jens Lerch
[email protected]                                                  Gary Pike
[email protected]                                      George Chandler
[email protected]                                             George Lewis
[email protected]                                                    Gary Gathen
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[email protected]                                     Glenn Kurtzrock
[email protected]                                    Richard Glueck
[email protected]                                               Gary H. Price
[email protected]                                         George A. Silvis
[email protected]                                              Gustav Melin
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[email protected]                                          Peter Harding
[email protected]                                      Heikki Lampinen
[email protected]                                                Ruben Velasco
[email protected]                                              Hank Fung
[email protected]                                              Stuart Jackson
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[email protected]                                                  Igor A. Lissov
[email protected]                                                Tom Billings
[email protected]                                               Ian Thirlwell
[email protected]                                           James E. Byrd
[email protected]                                    Mary-Frances Jagod
[email protected]                                              Jeffrey Baker
[email protected]                                                  Jim Varney
[email protected]                           Vansteelandt Jan
[email protected]                                  Jason P Hatton
[email protected]                                                John D. Smith
[email protected]                                           Bill Cherepy
[email protected]                              Jim ("Shoes") Davis
[email protected]                                                John Giardina
[email protected]                                               Jeff Richeson
[email protected]                                               Jeff  Blanchard
[email protected]                                            Jon Gruber
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[email protected]                                               Jeffrey C. Hoppe
[email protected]                                                      Jeff Hunt
[email protected]                                               Justin Wigg
[email protected]                                      Johannes Mueller
[email protected]                                       John P. Jordan
[email protected]                                                    John Burch
[email protected]                                     Joshua A. Powers
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[email protected]                                              Jay Respler
[email protected]                                            Judy Respler
[email protected]                                           Jospeh S. D. Yao
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[email protected]                                                   Earl Needham
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[email protected]                                                Richard Koolish
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[email protected]                                     David Lautenschlager
[email protected]                                           Bunny Laden
[email protected]                                 Lawrence Harris
[email protected]                                                Leo Barhorst
[email protected]                                      Edward S. Light
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[email protected]                                           Lloyd Dietert
[email protected]                                           Matthew Love
[email protected]                                               Marco Hahn
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[email protected]                                          Michael G. Wegner
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[email protected]                                     Robert A. Preston
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[email protected]                                    Stuart L. Huston
[email protected]                                                Paul L. Sventek
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[email protected]                                              Tristan Cools
[email protected]                                           Theo Vermeesch
[email protected]                                              Allen B. Thomson
[email protected]                                             Tim Marples
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[email protected]                                                 Tobias Erle
[email protected]                                             Lynn Tobias
[email protected]                                                     Tom Rankin
[email protected]om                                              Terry Sandbek
[email protected]                                   Terence Sean Sullivan
[email protected]                                               George F. Tucker
[email protected]                                                Tim Wallace
[email protected]                                          Thomas Wideman
[email protected]                                                         Kovelan
[email protected]                                                   Ullrich Heinemann
[email protected]                                          Frank Valentine
[email protected]                                                     Vic Dura
[email protected]                                           Vince Pearman
[email protected]                               William Boughton
[email protected]                                            Wayne T Hally
[email protected]                                                 Wayne Gibbons
[email protected]                                         William Blair
[email protected]                                                      Wm Phelps
[email protected]                                           Werner Kuper
[email protected]                                           Bill McClain
[email protected]                                         Sue J. Worden
[email protected]                                                   Willie Koorts
[email protected]                                                 Chris Barrus
[email protected]                                           Patricia A. Swan
[email protected]                                                  Mark Atwood

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[email protected]                                           Luigi MANIERO
[email protected]                                                  Bob Flaminio
[email protected]                                         T.Calabrese
[email protected]                                                                  d
[email protected]                                             Greg Bacon
[email protected]                                          Joshua Kramer
[email protected]                                        Jeff Uphoff
[email protected]                                            Mark Hanning-Lee
[email protected]                                              Aaron Marquez
[email protected]                                                Rebecca G. McQuitty
[email protected]                                                    John C. Mozena
[email protected]                                Christian Weisgerber
[email protected]                                             Olav Nieuwejaar
[email protected]                                       Patrick J. LoPresti
[email protected]                                                     Don Sillaway
[email protected]                       Irlandes Fernandes Gonzaga Junior
[email protected]                                                Richard Miller
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                            Jason Steiner
[email protected]                                  William Hamblen

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[email protected]                                                        Ulli Hanke
[email protected]                                               Marcin Podgorski

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[email protected]                                           Beau Mont
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[email protected]                                    Mario Brandon
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[email protected]                                     Michael R Stewart
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[email protected]                                   Gregory K Deeter
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[email protected]                                     Ray Jennings
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[email protected]                                     James Lawrence
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[email protected]                                 Tong Do
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