From [email protected] Fri Apr 14 17:46:55 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Bill Ice)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.writing,rec.arts.movies.production,rec.arts.movies
Subject: RFD: misc.writing.screenplays
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 14 Apr 1995 16:32:22 -0400
Organization: arn.net
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Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
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                     Request for Discussion (RFD)

Proposed Newsgroup: misc.writing.screenplays
Status:             unmoderated
Distribution:       worldwide
Summary:            For discussion of the various aspects of screenwriting.
Proponent:          Bill Ice 
             ...and more than 100 individuals who responded to a personal poll.

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of an unmoderated
newsgroup for discussion of issues related to screenwriting,
misc.writing.screenplays.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation. Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs. Please
cross-post this to the following relevant news groups (all unmoderated):

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, misc.writing,
  rec.arts.movies.production, rec.arts.movies

Followups to this RFD are to be posted only to news.groups, where
the actual discussion is to take place.

PROPOSED CHARTER

The misc.writing.screenplays newsgroup will be open to discussion of the
art and business aspects of writing screenplays both for feature films
and television. Specific topics may include but are not limited to:

        Finding an Agent
        Querying Production Companies
        Latest formatting trends
        Creative screenplay writing
        Screenwriting software
        Screenwriting books
        Tools available to the screenwriter
        Collaboration issues
        Tips from the pros

RATIONALE

Screenwriting is quickly becoming an extremely popular form of
writing, with distinctive differences from novel writing and playwriting.
The screenwriting mailing list has very nearly 500 subscribers and
features nearly, if not in excess of, 100 posts daily. This forum will
serve as a place for those interested in screenwriting to solve problems
and share ideas without having to sift through a hundred emails each day.
It is hoped this forum will be a place screenwriters will use to discuss their
art and business without fearing to leave their email boxes for more than a
couple of days.

MAILING LISTS

One mailing list exists:  [email protected]

FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed group, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups aslisted in this RFD. The voting period will be
at least 21 days. If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes
than NO votes and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, it
will be created.

From [email protected] Sat May 13 00:06:24 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.writing,rec.arts.movies.production,rec.arts.movies
Subject: CFV: misc.writing.screenplays
Followup-To: poster
Date: 12 May 1995 15:32:33 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 83
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 3 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: 
References: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)
                  unmoderated group misc.writing.screenplays

Newsgroups line:
misc.writing.screenplays	Aspects of writing and selling screenplays.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee .  For
questions about the proposed group contact Bill Ice .

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross posted to:
  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, misc.writing,
  rec.arts.movies.production, rec.arts.movies
and EMailed to:
        [email protected] (subscribe at [email protected]).

CHARTER

The misc.writing.screenplays newsgroup will be open to discussion of
the art and business aspects of writing screenplays both for feature
films and television. Specific topics may include but are not limited to:

        Finding an Agent
        Querying Production Companies
        Latest formatting trends
        Creative screenplay writing
        Screenwriting software
        Screenwriting books
        Tools available to the screenwriter
        Collaboration issues
        Tips from the pros

Screenwriting is quickly becoming an extremely popular form of writing,
with distinctive differences from novel writing and playwriting. The
screenwriting mailing list has very nearly 500 subscribers and features
nearly, if not in excess of, 100 posts daily. This forum will serve as a
place for those interested in screenwriting to solve problems and share
ideas without having to sift through a hundred emails each day. It is
hoped this forum will be a place screenwriters will use to discuss their
art and business without fearing to leave their email boxes for more
than a couple of days.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.
      I vote YES on misc.writing.screenplays
      I vote NO on misc.writing.screenplays
      I vote ABSTAIN on misc.writing.screenplays
      I CANCEL my vote on misc.writing.screenplays

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Thu May 25 18:47:40 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.writing,rec.arts.movies.production,rec.arts.movies
Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.writing.screenplays
Supersedes: 
Followup-To: poster
Date: 23 May 1995 16:00:39 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 83
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 3 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: 
References: <[email protected]> 
Reply-To: [email protected]
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)
                  unmoderated group misc.writing.screenplays

Newsgroups line:
misc.writing.screenplays	Aspects of writing and selling screenplays.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee .  For
questions about the proposed group contact Bill Ice .

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross posted to:
  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, misc.writing,
  rec.arts.movies.production, rec.arts.movies
and EMailed to:
        [email protected] (subscribe at [email protected]).

CHARTER

The misc.writing.screenplays newsgroup will be open to discussion of
the art and business aspects of writing screenplays both for feature
films and television. Specific topics may include but are not limited to:

        Finding an Agent
        Querying Production Companies
        Latest formatting trends
        Creative screenplay writing
        Screenwriting software
        Screenwriting books
        Tools available to the screenwriter
        Collaboration issues
        Tips from the pros

Screenwriting is quickly becoming an extremely popular form of writing,
with distinctive differences from novel writing and playwriting. The
screenwriting mailing list has very nearly 500 subscribers and features
nearly, if not in excess of, 100 posts daily. This forum will serve as a
place for those interested in screenwriting to solve problems and share
ideas without having to sift through a hundred emails each day. It is
hoped this forum will be a place screenwriters will use to discuss their
art and business without fearing to leave their email boxes for more
than a couple of days.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.
      I vote YES on misc.writing.screenplays
      I vote NO on misc.writing.screenplays
      I vote ABSTAIN on misc.writing.screenplays
      I CANCEL my vote on misc.writing.screenplays

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Tue Jun  6 02:35:59 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.writing,rec.arts.movies.production,rec.arts.movies
Subject: RESULT: misc.writing.screenplays passes 268:16
Supersedes: 
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 5 Jun 1995 20:52:17 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 367
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: 
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6983 news.groups:152432 misc.writing:58382 rec.arts.movies.production:7786 rec.arts.movies:285994

                                RESULT
           unmoderated group misc.writing.screenplays passes 268:16

There were 268 YES votes and 16 NO votes, for a total of 284 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 7 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

  misc.writing.screenplays passed on Tue May 16 17:12:11 1995

Newsgroups line:
misc.writing.screenplays	Aspects of writing and selling screenplays.

This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee . For questions
about the proposed group contact Bill Ice .

CHARTER

The misc.writing.screenplays newsgroup will be open to discussion of
the art and business aspects of writing screenplays both for feature
films and television. Specific topics may include but are not limited to:

        Finding an Agent
        Querying Production Companies
        Latest formatting trends
        Creative screenplay writing
        Screenwriting software
        Screenwriting books
        Tools available to the screenwriter
        Collaboration issues
        Tips from the pros

Screenwriting is quickly becoming an extremely popular form of writing,
with distinctive differences from novel writing and playwriting. The
screenwriting mailing list has very nearly 500 subscribers and features
nearly, if not in excess of, 100 posts daily. This forum will serve as a
place for those interested in screenwriting to solve problems and share
ideas without having to sift through a hundred emails each day. It is
hoped this forum will be a place screenwriters will use to discuss their
art and business without fearing to leave their email boxes for more
than a couple of days.


[This collection of addresses is (C)1995 by Consultix Computer Services.
Permission is strictly NOT given to use this list or any part thereof to
make a mailing list, or for mass-mailings.  Any other use is fine.]
misc.writing.screenplays Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                   Dominic Minghella
[email protected]                                         Paul Nellen
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[email protected]                                        Michael Flinn
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[email protected]                                          ALBERTO CHOLLET
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[email protected]                                                   Thomas Thomas
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[email protected]                                           John Angus
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[email protected]                                          Frank Rocca
[email protected]                                         Kim Goldberg
[email protected]                                                   Grey Death
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[email protected]                                           Brian E. Bianchi
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[email protected]                                      Shai L. Ingli
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[email protected]                                            Cynthia  Maurizio
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[email protected]               Gary K. Foote - Stopwatch Video & Film
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[email protected]                                      Kirk W. Laughlin
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[email protected]                                            Glenn Saunders
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[email protected]                                       Dave Cole
[email protected]                                               Susan M Kaye
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[email protected]                                            Steven M. Blacher
[email protected]                                            Sean K. Thompson
[email protected]                                   Stewart Hayward
[email protected]                                      Will Shetterly
[email protected]                            Steve J. Goldsworthy
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[email protected]                                     Brian Anderson
[email protected]                                                Kirk Pennak
[email protected]                                        S. OReilly
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[email protected]                                                   BJ Bush
[email protected]                                               Tamar Bihari
[email protected]                                                  Tim August
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[email protected]                                              Tony Cheek
[email protected]                                                 Tom D'Eletto
[email protected]                                            Tom Dirlis
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[email protected]                                               Shannon Smith
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[email protected]                                                  Dave Waddell
[email protected]                                   Wesley Elias Ribeiro
[email protected]                                        Rattlesnake Stu
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Voted No
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[email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                      Mike Gressman
[email protected]                                     Jeffrey David Cohen
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                            Mal Woolford
[email protected]                                     MANFRED SCHMIDT
[email protected]                                           Patrick J. LoPresti
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                               Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                          You're My.. Brown Eyed Girl...
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                 Trevor Lawrence
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]
[email protected]                                        Tim Pierce

Abstained
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                                  M. Otto


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                          S. Clements
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                  Jak King
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                        Peter Mark Krueger
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                      Julie
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                            WILLIAM DAVIS
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                        James Kim
   ! No vote statement in message

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