From [email protected] Mon Jan 15 16:19:16 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Scott DravesNewsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c Subject: RFD: comp.lang.scheme.scsh Followup-To: news.groups Date: 15 Jan 1996 21:19:08 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 55 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.scheme.scsh Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8126 news.groups:183445 comp.lang.scheme:14989 comp.lang.scheme.c:727 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh This is a formal request for discussion (RFD) on the subject of creating an unmoderated Usenet Newsgroup comp.lang.scheme.scsh RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to general comp.lang.scheme readers. CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to create the unmoderated Usenet group comp.lang.scheme.scsh. This message initiates a discussion period to consider the creation of the newsgroup. The discussion will take place on news.groups. All follow-up posts should be made to news.groups Please subscribe to news.groups if you wish to participate in the discussion. A Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted within 21 to 30 days of this posting, per the rules outlined in the Newsgroup Creation Companion. This vote will be administered by a neutral third party, not participating in the debate. ** Please limit all discussion regarding this RFD to news.groups only. All comments should be posted there.** **This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now **** DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation, and has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme comp.lang.scheme.c news.announce.newgroups news.groups and forwarded to the [email protected] mailing list PROPONENTS: Scott Draves Olin Shivers Brian D. Carlstrom From [email protected] Mon Feb 12 13:42:46 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c Subject: CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh Followup-To: poster Date: 12 Feb 1996 18:42:40 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 84 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 5 Mar 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.scheme.scsh Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8253 news.groups:188786 comp.lang.scheme:15233 comp.lang.scheme.c:747 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh Newsgroups line: comp.lang.scheme.scsh SCSH - the Scheme Shell. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about this proposal should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Scott Draves Proponent: Olin Shivers Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom Votetaker: Warren Lavallee RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to general comp.lang.scheme readers. there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and gateway problems. CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE Send E-MAIL to: [email protected] Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and don't affect the vote count. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid vote will count. VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been cross-posted to: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c From [email protected] Sun Feb 25 07:35:39 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 25 Feb 1996 12:35:43 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 84 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 5 Mar 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.scheme.scsh Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8296 news.groups:191270 comp.lang.scheme:15326 comp.lang.scheme.c:750 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh Newsgroups line: comp.lang.scheme.scsh SCSH - the Scheme Shell. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about this proposal should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Scott Draves Proponent: Olin Shivers Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom Votetaker: Warren Lavallee RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to general comp.lang.scheme readers. there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and gateway problems. CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE Send E-MAIL to: [email protected] Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and don't affect the vote count. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid vote will count. VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been cross-posted to: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c From [email protected] Tue Mar 5 06:11:08 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24 Supersedes: Followup-To: news.groups Date: 5 Mar 1996 06:11:19 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 226 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.lang.scheme.scsh Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8347 news.groups:192518 comp.lang.scheme:15411 comp.lang.scheme.c:751 RESULT unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24 There were 134 YES votes and 24 NO votes, for a total of 158 valid votes. There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: comp.lang.scheme.scsh SCSH - the Scheme Shell. This was being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about this proposal should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Scott Draves Proponent: Olin Shivers Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom Votetaker: Warren Lavallee RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to general comp.lang.scheme readers. there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and gateway problems. CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell. END CHARTER. DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been cross-posted to: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c comp.lang.scheme.scsh Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Michael Shook [email protected] Harvey J. Stein [email protected] Stephen Adams [email protected] Alan Bawden [email protected] Benny Amorsen [email protected] Andy Arkhipov [email protected] James Aspnes [email protected] Andrew V. Klein [email protected] Aleksandar Bakic [email protected] Brian A. LaMacchia [email protected] Basile STARYNKEVITCH [email protected] Bruce Duba [email protected] Bernard URBAN [email protected] Clifford Beshers [email protected] Brian Harvey [email protected] B. Robert Helm [email protected] Shag [email protected] Brent Benson [email protected] Robert E. Brown [email protected] Kees de Bruin [email protected] Bruno Verlyck [email protected] D. L. Mosher [email protected] Carl Alexander [email protected] Christopher Jeris [email protected] Carl L. Gay [email protected] Charles Kung [email protected] [email protected] Christian Moen [email protected] Juergen Christoffel [email protected] Chuck Fry [email protected] Cameron Laird [email protected] Mike Coleman [email protected] Cormac Flanagan [email protected] Soren Dayton [email protected] Dave Love [email protected] Daniel Neri [email protected] [email protected] Minister of Truth [email protected] Allyn Dimock [email protected] Dongil Shin [email protected] Dorai Sitaram [email protected] David Roth [email protected] Daniel S Chen [email protected] David M. Siegel [email protected] Stevens Didier [email protected] Robert [email protected] Kjetil Valstadsve [email protected] [email protected] Elliot Schwartz [email protected] Sergei Egorov [email protected] David Fox [email protected] Noah Friedman [email protected] Gary Capell [email protected] George J. Carrette [email protected] Robert Goldman [email protected] Mike Gunter [email protected] Joshua D. Guttman [email protected] Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy) [email protected] Hannes Haug [email protected] Henry Cejtin [email protected] Holger Duerer - Esperanto pa [email protected] Bob Hutchison [email protected] Van Deun Dirk [email protected] Andy Fingerhut [email protected] Kevin Jameson [email protected] Juliusz Chroboczek [email protected] John E. Howland [email protected] John Jannotti [email protected] Julien Linder [email protected] Josh MacDonald [email protected] J_Gerard Malecki [email protected] John Oleynick [email protected] Jin S. Choi [email protected] Jean-Sebastien Theriault [email protected] Keith Waclena [email protected] Kim DeVaughn [email protected] [email protected] Luis H. Rodriguez [email protected] Larry W. Virden [email protected] [email protected] Michael Becker [email protected] Mark Chu-Carroll [email protected] Timo Metzemakers [email protected] Matthew Flatt [email protected] Michael Gass [email protected] Smrf [email protected] Richard Mlynarik [email protected] Michael Spalinski [email protected] Michael W. Daniels [email protected] Neil Dunbar [email protected] Christophe Nicolas [email protected] Ollivier Robert [email protected] Orc [email protected] Hiroyasu OSADA [email protected] Paxil [email protected] [email protected], "P.E. [email protected] Pierre De Pascale [email protected] Jean-Yves Perrier [email protected] Paul-Jean Cagnard [email protected] Robert Pluim [email protected] Pete Bastien [email protected] F Puech [email protected] Russell Steicke [email protected] Erik E. Rantapaa [email protected] R H Lopes [email protected] Rehmi Post [email protected] Russ McManus [email protected] [email protected] Roland McKenney [email protected] J. Rufinus [email protected] Marc Schaefer [email protected] Michel Schinz [email protected] Mark A. Sheldon [email protected] Olin Shivers [email protected] Shriram Krishnamurthi [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor] [email protected] Stephen Ma [email protected] Stu Labovitz [email protected] Tom Lyons [email protected] Tim Bradshaw [email protected] Tom I Helbekkmo [email protected] Tim Geisler [email protected] Tony Garnock-Jones [email protected] Jeff Trestrail [email protected] Nicholas Vargish [email protected] Wolfgang von Hansen [email protected] Vincent Manis [email protected] David Wald [email protected] Kent Paul Dolan [email protected] Brian F. Dennis [email protected] Yuval Peduel [email protected] Michael R. Blair Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Art Stone [email protected] Brian Bresnahan [email protected] Michiel Wijers [email protected] Douglas Stewart [email protected] Jay Nietling [email protected] Jeff M Chambers [email protected] John R. MacWilliamson [email protected] Kevin K. Lewis [email protected] Gerry Swetsky [email protected] Olav Nieuwejaar [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] Richard L. Carreiro [email protected] David Moore [email protected] Glen Patrick Ryan [email protected] Sassan Simai [email protected] Lars Eilebrecht [email protected] Smarasderagd [email protected] Dwight Brown [email protected] [email protected] Tom Griffin [email protected] Todd C. Lawson [email protected] Tim Pierce [email protected] [email protected] Risto Widenius Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Nathanael Makarevitch ! Conflicting votes [email protected] ! Invalid address [email protected] Rynasiewicz ! Conflicting votes