From [email protected] Mon Jan 15 16:19:16 1996
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From: Scott Draves 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
Subject: RFD: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
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Date: 15 Jan 1996 21:19:08 -0000
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh

This is a formal request for discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet Newsgroup comp.lang.scheme.scsh

RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic
and readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no
interest to general comp.lang.scheme readers.

CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all aspects
of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to create the
unmoderated Usenet group comp.lang.scheme.scsh. This message initiates
a discussion period to consider the creation of the newsgroup. The
discussion will take place on news.groups. All follow-up posts should
be made to news.groups Please subscribe to news.groups if you wish to
participate in the discussion.

A Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted within 21 to 30 days of this
posting, per the rules outlined in the Newsgroup Creation Companion.
This vote will be administered by a neutral third party, not
participating in the debate.

** Please limit all discussion regarding this RFD to news.groups only.
All comments should be posted there.**

**This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now ****

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation,
and has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups:

comp.lang.scheme
comp.lang.scheme.c
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups

and forwarded to the [email protected] mailing list

PROPONENTS:

Scott Draves 
Olin Shivers 
Brian D. Carlstrom 

From [email protected] Mon Feb 12 13:42:46 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
Subject: CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh	SCSH - the Scheme Shell.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent:  Scott Draves 
Proponent: Olin Shivers 
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom 
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee 


RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.

there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.


CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:   [email protected]

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

      I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
      I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

        comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c

From [email protected] Sun Feb 25 07:35:39 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
Supersedes: 
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh	SCSH - the Scheme Shell.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent:  Scott Draves 
Proponent: Olin Shivers 
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom 
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee 


RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.

there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.


CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:   [email protected]

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

      I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
      I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

        comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c

From [email protected] Tue Mar  5 06:11:08 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24
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                                RESULT
        unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24

There were 134 YES votes and 24 NO votes, for a total of 158 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh	SCSH - the Scheme Shell.

This was being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent:  Scott Draves 
Proponent: Olin Shivers 
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom 
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee 

RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.

there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.


CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

        comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c

comp.lang.scheme.scsh Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                        Michael Shook
[email protected]                                          Harvey J. Stein
[email protected]                                        Stephen Adams
[email protected]                                                   Alan Bawden
[email protected]                                             Benny Amorsen
[email protected]                                             Andy Arkhipov
[email protected]                                          James Aspnes
[email protected]                                                Andrew V. Klein
[email protected]                                          Aleksandar Bakic
[email protected]                                     Brian A. LaMacchia
[email protected]                               Basile STARYNKEVITCH
[email protected]                                                 Bruce Duba
[email protected]                                           Bernard URBAN
[email protected]                                       Clifford Beshers
[email protected]                                                Brian Harvey
[email protected]                                            B. Robert Helm
[email protected]                                                   Shag
[email protected]                                              Brent Benson
[email protected]                                   Robert E. Brown
[email protected]                                                 Kees de Bruin
[email protected]                                           Bruno Verlyck
[email protected]                                       D. L. Mosher
[email protected]                                         Carl Alexander
[email protected]                                  Christopher Jeris
[email protected]                                                Carl L. Gay
[email protected]                                               Charles Kung
[email protected]
[email protected]                                             Christian Moen
[email protected]                                         Juergen Christoffel
[email protected]                                                      Chuck Fry
[email protected]                                      Cameron Laird
[email protected]                                             Mike Coleman
[email protected]                                             Cormac Flanagan
[email protected]                                      Soren Dayton
[email protected]                                                      Dave Love
[email protected]                                                Daniel Neri
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Minister of Truth
[email protected]                                            Allyn Dimock
[email protected]                                              Dongil Shin
[email protected]                                                Dorai Sitaram
[email protected]                                        David Roth
[email protected]                                            Daniel S Chen
[email protected]                                              David M. Siegel
[email protected]                                      Stevens Didier
[email protected]                                                            Robert
[email protected]                                            Kjetil Valstadsve
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Elliot Schwartz
[email protected]                                           Sergei Egorov
[email protected]                                              David Fox
[email protected]                                              Noah Friedman
[email protected]                                                   Gary Capell
[email protected]                                        George J. Carrette
[email protected]                                       Robert Goldman
[email protected]                                                  Mike Gunter
[email protected]                                      Joshua D. Guttman
[email protected]                                Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)
[email protected]                            Hannes Haug
[email protected]                                         Henry Cejtin
[email protected]    Holger Duerer - Esperanto pa
[email protected]                                                Bob Hutchison
[email protected]                                        Van Deun Dirk
[email protected]                                                Andy Fingerhut
[email protected]                                             Kevin Jameson
[email protected]                                            Juliusz Chroboczek
[email protected]                                  John E. Howland
[email protected]                                          John Jannotti
[email protected]                                           Julien Linder
[email protected]                                     Josh MacDonald
[email protected]                                              J_Gerard Malecki
[email protected]                                           John Oleynick
[email protected]                                                      Jin S. Choi
[email protected]                                Jean-Sebastien Theriault
[email protected]                               Keith Waclena
[email protected]                                              Kim DeVaughn
[email protected]
[email protected]                                      Luis H. Rodriguez
[email protected]                                                Larry W. Virden
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Michael Becker
[email protected]                                            Mark Chu-Carroll
[email protected]                               Timo Metzemakers
[email protected]                                               Matthew Flatt
[email protected]                                        Michael Gass
[email protected]                                           Smrf
[email protected]                                            Richard Mlynarik
[email protected]                                           Michael Spalinski
[email protected]                                           Michael W. Daniels
[email protected]                                             Neil Dunbar
[email protected]                                     Christophe Nicolas
[email protected]                                     Ollivier Robert
[email protected]                                                         Orc
[email protected]                                          Hiroyasu OSADA
[email protected]                                                       Paxil
[email protected]                      [email protected], "P.E.
[email protected]                                     Pierre De Pascale
[email protected]                                        Jean-Yves Perrier
[email protected]                                     Paul-Jean Cagnard
[email protected]                                                Robert Pluim
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                                    F Puech
[email protected]                                           Russell Steicke
[email protected]                                         Erik E. Rantapaa
[email protected]                                                 R H Lopes
[email protected]                                                  Rehmi Post
[email protected]                                             Russ McManus
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Roland McKenney
[email protected]                                            J. Rufinus
[email protected]                                         Marc Schaefer
[email protected]                                             Michel Schinz
[email protected]                                            Mark A. Sheldon
[email protected]                                         Olin Shivers
[email protected]                                      Shriram Krishnamurthi
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]         Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
[email protected]                                              Stephen Ma
[email protected]                                          Stu Labovitz
[email protected]                                                        Tom Lyons
[email protected]                                                 Tim Bradshaw
[email protected]                                           Tom I Helbekkmo
[email protected]                             Tim Geisler
[email protected]                                          Tony Garnock-Jones
[email protected]                                             Jeff Trestrail
[email protected]                             Nicholas Vargish
[email protected]                      Wolfgang von Hansen
[email protected]                                                   Vincent Manis
[email protected]                                             David Wald
[email protected]                                          Kent Paul Dolan
[email protected]                                      Brian F. Dennis
[email protected]                                         Yuval Peduel
[email protected]                                     Michael R. Blair

Voted No
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[email protected]                                                    Art Stone
[email protected]                                               Brian Bresnahan
[email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                            Douglas Stewart
[email protected]                                         Jay Nietling
[email protected]                                       Jeff M Chambers
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                              Kevin K. Lewis
[email protected]                                           Gerry Swetsky
[email protected]                                             Olav Nieuwejaar
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                      Richard L. Carreiro
[email protected]                                  David Moore
[email protected]                                     Glen Patrick Ryan
[email protected]                                                Sassan Simai
[email protected]                                    Lars Eilebrecht
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Tom Griffin
[email protected]                             Todd C. Lawson
[email protected]                                        Tim Pierce
[email protected]
[email protected]                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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[email protected]                             Nathanael Makarevitch
   ! Conflicting votes
[email protected]
   ! Invalid address
[email protected]                                              Rynasiewicz
   ! Conflicting votes