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From [email protected] Wed Sep 15 16:53:58 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Patricio V. Poblete) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.peru,soc.culture.argentina,chile.grupos,chile.chile-l Subject: RFD: soc.culture.chile Followup-To: news.groups Date: 15 Sep 1993 09:17:59 -0400 Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 143 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4052 news.groups:81939 soc.culture.latin-america:18503 soc.culture.mexican:14440 soc.culture.spain:13142 soc.culture.venezuela:2017 soc.culture.peru:443 soc.culture.argentina:544 chile.grupos:223 chile.chile-l:5423  [English version; See below for the Spanish version]  This is a formal call for discussion on the creation of the unmoderated newsgroup soc.culture.chile on Usenet. In addition to several appropriate Usenet newsgroups, this is also being sent to the BITNET mailing list CHILE-L. According to the guidelines, the discussion should take place in news.groups.  Proposed Charter ----------------  The purpose of the soc.culture.chile newsgroup is to provide a place where people all over the world can meet and exchange opinions and information about Chile. Although it is expected that most of the participants will be Chileans living at home or abroad, everyone -- Chilean or not -- is welcome to participate.  All topics of discussion relevant to Chile are appropriate. A non-exhaustive list of topics is:  	- All kinds of news from Chile 	- International news and their relation to Chile 	- Chilean history 	- Chilean politics 	- Travel information 	- Literature, music, and all kinds of artistic expression from Chile 	- Food, customs, traditions, etc. 	- and much more...  Languages ---------  Primarily Spanish. English posts are also welcome, to facilitate the exchange of information with non-Spanish speakers.  Background ----------  Chile is one of the countries in South America where networking is advancing most rapidly. A number of newsgroups already exist under the hierarchy chile.*. A very active BITNET mailing list (CHILE-L) usually carries a high traffic. All these users would benefit from the existence of a Chilean newsgroup in the mainstream Usenet hierarchy. Several other countries in South America (i.e. Argentina, Brazil, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela) have already created, or are in the process of creating, similar newsgroups.  E_mail access to the newsgroup ------------------------------  The newsgroup will be gatewayed to a mailing list, to allow users without Usenet access take part in the discussions by e-mail. The details of operation of this mailing list and its possible relation with the BITNET mailing list CHILE-L will be considered during the discussion period.  Calendar --------  The discussion period will last for one month, starting from the moment this RFD appears. If there is agreement, a Call for Votes will be issued then.  Proposed by -----------  Juan Alvarez ([email protected]) Patricio Poblete ([email protected]) Eduardo Rodriguez ([email protected]) Rodolfo M. Vega ([email protected])  ========================================================================== [Version en castellano]  Este es un llamado a discusion formal sobre la creacion del grupo no moderado news.culture.chile en Usenet. Ademas de los newsgroups apropiados de Usenet, esto esta siendo enviado tambien a la mailing list CHILE-L en BITNET. De acuerdo a las normas de creacion de newsgroups, la discusion debe realizarse en news.groups.  Objetivo Propuesto ------------------  El proposito del newsgroup soc.culture.chile es proveer una lugar en el cual gente de todo el mundo se pueda reunir e intercambiar opiniones e informacion sobre Chile. Aunque se espera que la mayoria de los participantes sean chilenos residentes en Chile o en el extranjero, todo el mundo -- chilenos o no -- son bienvenidos para participar.  Todos los topicos de discusion relevantes a Chile son apropiados. Una lista no exhaustiva de topicos es:  	- Todo tipo de noticias sobre Chile 	- Noticias internacionales y su relacion con Chile 	- Historia de Chile 	- Politica de Chile 	- Informacion de viajes 	- Literatura, musica, y todo tipo de expresion artistica de Chile 	- Comida, costumbres, tradiciones, etc. 	- y mucho mas...  Idiomas -------  Primariamente castellano. La participacion en ingles tambien es bienvenida, para facilitar el intercambio de informacion con personas que no hablen castellano.  Antecedentes adicionales ------------------------  Chile es uno de los paises de Sud America en que las redes estan avanzando mas rapidamente. Un numero de newsgroups existen ya bajo la jerarquia chile.*. Una lista de BITNET bastante activa (CHILE-L) usualmente tiene un alto trafico. Todos estos usuarios se beneficiarian con la existencia de un newsgroup chileno en el tronco principal de la jerarquia de Usenet. Varios otros paises de Sud America (Argentina, Brasil, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela) ya han creado, o estan en el proceso de crear, newsgroups similares.  Acceso al newsgroup via e-mail ------------------------------  Este newsgroup va a ser comunicado con una mailing list, para permitir que los usuarios que no tienen acceso a Usenet puedan participar via e-mail. Los detalles de la operacion de esta mailing list, y de su posible relacion con la lista CHILE-L de BITNET seran considerados durante el periodo de discusion.  Calendario ----------  El periodo de discusion durara un mes, a partir del momento en que aparezca esta RFD. Si hay acuerdo, en ese momento se publicara un Llamado a Votacion.  Proponentes -----------  Juan Alvarez ([email protected]) Patricio Poblete ([email protected]) Eduardo Rodriguez ([email protected]) Rodolfo M. Vega ([email protected])  From [email protected] Wed Oct 20 15:13:41 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.peru,soc.culture.argentina,chile.grupos,chile.chile-l Subject: CFV: soc.culture.chile Followup-To: poster Date: 20 Oct 1993 15:09:34 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 193 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 11 Nov 1993 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4185 news.groups:85263 soc.culture.latin-america:19248 soc.culture.mexican:15159 soc.culture.spain:15014 soc.culture.venezuela:3518 soc.culture.peru:665 soc.culture.argentina:884 chile.grupos:227 chile.chile-l:6192                        1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)  Unmoderated group soc.culture.chile  Newsgroups line:    soc.culture.chile	All about Chile and its people.  Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 GMT, 10 Nov 1993.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only, contact Andrew Solovay <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group, contact the group's proposer, Patricio V. Poblete <[email protected]>.  Note that the vote-taker, Andrew Solovay, does *not* speak Spanish.  The proposed newsgroup soc.culture.chile will be gatewayed to/from the BITNET mailing list CHILE-L, available through [email protected]  The charter and voting instructions are given in both English and Spanish.  CHARTER    Charter   -------    The purpose of the soc.culture.chile newsgroup is to provide a place   where people all over the world can meet and exchange opinions and   information about Chile. Although it is expected that most of the   participants will be Chileans living at home or abroad, everyone --   Chilean or not -- is welcome to participate.    All topics of discussion relevant to Chile are appropriate. A   non-exhaustive list of topics is:    - All kinds of news from Chile   - International news and their relation to Chile   - Chilean history   - Chilean politics   - Travel information   - Literature, music, and all kinds of artistic expression from Chile   - Food, customs, traditions, etc.   - and much more...    Languages   ---------    Primarily Spanish. English posts are also welcome, to facilitate the   exchange of information with non-Spanish speakers.    E_mail access to the newsgroup   ------------------------------    The newsgroup will be gatewayed to/from the BITNET mailing list CHILE-L,   so users without Usenet can access take part in the discussions by e-mail.   It is understood that this gateway operates by consent of the subscribers   of CHILE-L, who retain the right to withdraw this consent at any time.   RATIONALE    Chile is one of the countries in South America where networking is   advancing most rapidly. A number of newsgroups already exist under the   hierarchy chile.*. A very active BITNET mailing list (CHILE-L) usually   carries a high traffic. All these users would benefit from the   existence of a Chilean newsgroup in the mainstream Usenet hierarchy.   Several other countries in South America (i.e. Argentina, Brazil, Peru,   Uruguay, Venezuela) have already created, or are in the process of   creating, similar newsgroups.  STANDARD VOTING INFO  You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to        [email protected]   (just replying by MAIL to this posting should work, *if* your newsreader honors the "Reply-To" line in the article header; however, to be sure, check the address before sending your ballot). Votes sent to other addresses will not be counted.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements:        I vote YES on soc.culture.chile       I vote NO on soc.culture.chile       I vote ABSTAIN soc.culture.chile  You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. If you later change your mind you may send in another vote, which will automatically supercede all previous votes. "ABSTAIN" votes serve to cancel previous votes.  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  For the group to be created, 100 more YES votes than NO votes must be cast, and 2/3 of all valid votes must be YES votes. "ABSTAIN" votes are not counted in either calculation; their only role is to cancel previous votes. A single user may send no more than one vote, no matter how many accounts he or she might have. Furthermore, a single account may cast only one vote, no matter how many users may share that account.  Every vote will be acknowledged by EMail. The CFV will be repeated once; the 2d CFV will contain a "bounce-ack", i.e. a list of people whose ACK messages bounced when I sent them.  [Version en castellano]    Objetivo   --------    El proposito del newsgroup soc.culture.chile es proveer una lugar   en el cual gente de todo el mundo se pueda reunir e intercambiar   opiniones e informacion sobre Chile. Aunque se espera que la mayoria   de los participantes sean chilenos residentes en Chile o en el extranjero,   todo el mundo -- chilenos o no -- son bienvenidos para participar.    Todos los topicos de discusion relevantes a Chile son apropiados. Una   lista no exhaustiva de topicos es:    - Todo tipo de noticias sobre Chile   - Noticias internacionales y su relacion con Chile   - Historia de Chile   - Politica de Chile   - Informacion de viajes   - Literatura, musica, y todo tipo de expresion artistica de Chile   - Comida, costumbres, tradiciones, etc.   - y mucho mas...    Idiomas   -------    Primariamente castellano. La participacion en ingles tambien es   bienvenida, para facilitar el intercambio de informacion con   personas que no hablen castellano.    Acceso al newsgroup via e-mail   ------------------------------    Este newsgroup va a ser comunicado hacia y desde la lista CHILE-L de BITNET,   de modo que los usuarios que no tienen acceso a Usenet puedan participar via   e-mail. Se deja constancia de que esta comunicacion se realiza gracias a la   autorizacion de los suscriptores de CHILE-L, quienes se reservan el derecho   de revocar esta autorizacion en cualquier momento.     Chile es uno de los paises de Sud America en que las redes estan   avanzando mas rapidamente. Un numero de newsgroups existen ya bajo   la jerarquia chile.*. Una lista de BITNET bastante activa (CHILE-L)   usualmente tiene un alto trafico. Todos estos usuarios se beneficiarian   con la existencia de un newsgroup chileno en el tronco principal de la   jerarquia de Usenet. Varios otros paises de Sud America (Argentina,   Brasil, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela) ya han creado, o estan en el proceso   de crear, newsgroups similares.    Para votar, usted debe enviar MAIL (los "posts" en un grupo no son validos) a  	[email protected]  (para esto basta con hacer "reply" via MAIL a este mensaje, *siempre* que su newsreader (o mailer) obedezca la linea "Reply-To" en el encabezamiento; sin embargo, para asegurarse, chequee la direccion antes de enviar el voto). Los votos enviados a otras direcciones no seran contados. Su mensaje de mail debe contener una y solo una de las siguientes lineas (textualmente, en ingles):         I vote YES on soc.culture.chile        I vote NO on soc.culture.chile        I vote ABSTAIN soc.culture.chile  Usted puede agregar un comentario, pero cualquier cosa que no sea una afirmacion bien definida mencionando el nombre del grupo y las palabras "yes", "no", "for" o "against" (en ingles!) corre el riesgo de ser rechazado por el programa de recuento automatico de votos. Si despues de haber votado usted cambia de opinion, puede enviar un nuevo voto, el cual reemplazara automaticamente a todos los votos anteriores. Los votos "ABSTAIN" sirven para cancelar los votos previos.  Se aplican las normas estandar ("Standard Guidelines") para la votacion. Para que el grupo sea creado debe haber al menos 100 mas votos YES que NO, y 2/3 de todos los votos validos deben ser YES. Los votos "ABSTAIN" no se cuentan en ninguno de estos calculos; su unico proposito es cancelar votos previos.  Ningun usuario puede emitir mas de un voto, no importa cuantas cuentas pueda tener. Ademas, cada cuenta puede emitir solo un voto, no importa cuantos usuarios compartan esa cuenta.  Para cada voto recibido se enviara una confirmacion ("acknowledgement") via EMail. Este CFV sera repetido una vez; el segundo CFV incluira un "bounce-ack", esto es, una lista de la gente cuyos mensajes ACK rebotaron al ser enviados.  From [email protected] Tue Nov  2 15:34:25 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.peru,soc.culture.argentina,chile.grupos,chile.chile-l Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.chile Followup-To: poster Date: 1 Nov 1993 15:19:00 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 244 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 11 Nov 1993 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4224 news.groups:86414 soc.culture.latin-america:19467 soc.culture.mexican:15532 soc.culture.spain:15557 soc.culture.venezuela:4097 soc.culture.peru:706 soc.culture.argentina:1048 chile.grupos:247 chile.chile-l:6737                        2d CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)  Unmoderated group soc.culture.chile  Newsgroups line:    soc.culture.chile	All about Chile and its people.  Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 GMT, 10 Nov 1993.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only, contact Andrew Solovay <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group, contact the group's proposer, Patricio V. Poblete <[email protected]>.  Note that the vote-taker, Andrew Solovay, does *not* speak Spanish.  The proposed newsgroup soc.culture.chile will be gatewayed to/from the BITNET mailing list CHILE-L, available through [email protected]  The charter and voting instructions are given in both English and Spanish.  CHARTER    Charter   -------    The purpose of the soc.culture.chile newsgroup is to provide a place   where people all over the world can meet and exchange opinions and   information about Chile. Although it is expected that most of the   participants will be Chileans living at home or abroad, everyone --   Chilean or not -- is welcome to participate.    All topics of discussion relevant to Chile are appropriate. A   non-exhaustive list of topics is:    - All kinds of news from Chile   - International news and their relation to Chile   - Chilean history   - Chilean politics   - Travel information   - Literature, music, and all kinds of artistic expression from Chile   - Food, customs, traditions, etc.   - and much more...    Languages   ---------    Primarily Spanish. English posts are also welcome, to facilitate the   exchange of information with non-Spanish speakers.    E_mail access to the newsgroup   ------------------------------    The newsgroup will be gatewayed to/from the BITNET mailing list CHILE-L,   so users without Usenet can access take part in the discussions by e-mail.   It is understood that this gateway operates by consent of the subscribers   of CHILE-L, who retain the right to withdraw this consent at any time.   RATIONALE    Chile is one of the countries in South America where networking is   advancing most rapidly. A number of newsgroups already exist under the   hierarchy chile.*. A very active BITNET mailing list (CHILE-L) usually   carries a high traffic. All these users would benefit from the   existence of a Chilean newsgroup in the mainstream Usenet hierarchy.   Several other countries in South America (i.e. Argentina, Brazil, Peru,   Uruguay, Venezuela) have already created, or are in the process of   creating, similar newsgroups.  STANDARD VOTING INFO  You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to        [email protected]   (just replying by MAIL to this posting should work, *if* your newsreader honors the "Reply-To" line in the article header; however, to be sure, check the address before sending your ballot). Votes sent to other addresses will not be counted.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements:        I vote YES on soc.culture.chile       I vote NO on soc.culture.chile       I vote ABSTAIN soc.culture.chile  You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. If you later change your mind you may send in another vote, which will automatically supercede all previous votes. "ABSTAIN" votes serve to cancel previous votes.  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  For the group to be created, 100 more YES votes than NO votes must be cast, and 2/3 of all valid votes must be YES votes. "ABSTAIN" votes are not counted in either calculation; their only role is to cancel previous votes. A single user may send no more than one vote, no matter how many accounts he or she might have. Furthermore, a single account may cast only one vote, no matter how many users may share that account.  Every vote will be acknowledged by EMail. The CFV will be repeated once; the 2d CFV will contain a "bounce-ack", i.e. a list of people whose ACK messages bounced when I sent them.  [Version en castellano]    Objetivo   --------    El proposito del newsgroup soc.culture.chile es proveer una lugar   en el cual gente de todo el mundo se pueda reunir e intercambiar   opiniones e informacion sobre Chile. Aunque se espera que la mayoria   de los participantes sean chilenos residentes en Chile o en el extranjero,   todo el mundo -- chilenos o no -- son bienvenidos para participar.    Todos los topicos de discusion relevantes a Chile son apropiados. Una   lista no exhaustiva de topicos es:    - Todo tipo de noticias sobre Chile   - Noticias internacionales y su relacion con Chile   - Historia de Chile   - Politica de Chile   - Informacion de viajes   - Literatura, musica, y todo tipo de expresion artistica de Chile   - Comida, costumbres, tradiciones, etc.   - y mucho mas...    Idiomas   -------    Primariamente castellano. La participacion en ingles tambien es   bienvenida, para facilitar el intercambio de informacion con   personas que no hablen castellano.    Acceso al newsgroup via e-mail   ------------------------------    Este newsgroup va a ser comunicado hacia y desde la lista CHILE-L de BITNET,   de modo que los usuarios que no tienen acceso a Usenet puedan participar via   e-mail. Se deja constancia de que esta comunicacion se realiza gracias a la   autorizacion de los suscriptores de CHILE-L, quienes se reservan el derecho   de revocar esta autorizacion en cualquier momento.     Chile es uno de los paises de Sud America en que las redes estan   avanzando mas rapidamente. Un numero de newsgroups existen ya bajo   la jerarquia chile.*. Una lista de BITNET bastante activa (CHILE-L)   usualmente tiene un alto trafico. Todos estos usuarios se beneficiarian   con la existencia de un newsgroup chileno en el tronco principal de la   jerarquia de Usenet. Varios otros paises de Sud America (Argentina,   Brasil, Peru, Uruguay, Venezuela) ya han creado, o estan en el proceso   de crear, newsgroups similares.    Para votar, usted debe enviar MAIL (los "posts" en un grupo no son validos) a  	[email protected]  (para esto basta con hacer "reply" via MAIL a este mensaje, *siempre* que su newsreader (o mailer) obedezca la linea "Reply-To" en el encabezamiento; sin embargo, para asegurarse, chequee la direccion antes de enviar el voto). Los votos enviados a otras direcciones no seran contados. Su mensaje de mail debe contener una y solo una de las siguientes lineas (textualmente, en ingles):         I vote YES on soc.culture.chile        I vote NO on soc.culture.chile        I vote ABSTAIN soc.culture.chile  Usted puede agregar un comentario, pero cualquier cosa que no sea una afirmacion bien definida mencionando el nombre del grupo y las palabras "yes", "no", "for" o "against" (en ingles!) corre el riesgo de ser rechazado por el programa de recuento automatico de votos. Si despues de haber votado usted cambia de opinion, puede enviar un nuevo voto, el cual reemplazara automaticamente a todos los votos anteriores. Los votos "ABSTAIN" sirven para cancelar los votos previos.  Se aplican las normas estandar ("Standard Guidelines") para la votacion. Para que el grupo sea creado debe haber al menos 100 mas votos YES que NO, y 2/3 de todos los votos validos deben ser YES. Los votos "ABSTAIN" no se cuentan en ninguno de estos calculos; su unico proposito es cancelar votos previos.  Ningun usuario puede emitir mas de un voto, no importa cuantas cuentas pueda tener. Ademas, cada cuenta puede emitir solo un voto, no importa cuantos usuarios compartan esa cuenta.  Para cada voto recibido se enviara una confirmacion ("acknowledgement") via EMail. Este CFV sera repetido una vez; el segundo CFV incluira un "bounce-ack", esto es, una lista de la gente cuyos mensajes ACK rebotaron al ser enviados.  ==========  BOUNCE-ACK (as of 11/1/93)  The following people have submitted valid votes, but my E-Mailed acknowledgement bounced between my mailer and theirs. These people need not respond; their votes have been counted.  If you received an EMailed acknowledgement, you will most likely *not* be listed here; this lists only the people whose acknowledgements generated warnings.  If you have voted before 11/1/93, you have not received an acknowledgement, and you are not listed here, it is possible that your vote never reached me; please check with me at <[email protected]>, or resend your vote to <[email protected]>.  soc.culture.chile group vote Bounce Ack List ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BAGWAN::MESIAS"@osuvax.oce.orst.edu [email protected] HPDIAZ%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]    INVALID VOTES (as of 11/1/93)  The following people have submitted invalid votes, and have not superseded them with valid votes. Please read the voting instructions carefully, and resend your votes to <[email protected]> if you want your vote to be counted.  Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                             Fernando Saturno    ! Conflicting votes [email protected]                                      Gina Mae Perez    ! No votes [email protected]                    [Hans H. Schroeder E. .... SWISSONE]    ! No votes [email protected]                               Alfonso Adriasola    ! No votes [email protected]                                         Pcus 02006 X    ! Conflicting votes [email protected]                                       Silva, Herman P    ! Conflicting votes [email protected]                    28-OCT-1993 13:26:14.76    ! No votes  From [email protected] Fri Nov 12 15:54:21 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.peru,soc.culture.argentina,chile.grupos,chile.chile-l Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.chile passes 415:34 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 12 Nov 1993 15:44:04 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 585 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4269 news.groups:87518 soc.culture.latin-america:19669 soc.culture.mexican:15820 soc.culture.spain:16490 soc.culture.venezuela:4746 soc.culture.peru:811 soc.culture.argentina:1257 chile.grupos:265 chile.chile-l:7157  Unmoderated group soc.culture.chile  soc.culture.chile group vote results - 453 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------  415   34 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.culture.chile     4 abstaining votes and 7 invalid votes   This margin is adequate for newgroup creation. There will be a five day discussion period after this is posted to news.announce.newsgroups; during this time, people may raise objections to the vote. Barring serious controversy about the vote, the moderator of news.announce.newsgroups will create the group shortly after the five day period ends.  Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 10 Nov 1993.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.    Vote-taker's address:		<[email protected]> Group proponent's address:	<[email protected]>   Newsgroups line:    soc.culture.chile	All about Chile and its people.  CHARTER (as printed in the Call for Votes)    The purpose of the soc.culture.chile newsgroup is to provide a place   where people all over the world can meet and exchange opinions and   information about Chile. Although it is expected that most of the   participants will be Chileans living at home or abroad, everyone --   Chilean or not -- is welcome to participate.    All topics of discussion relevant to Chile are appropriate. A   non-exhaustive list of topics is:    - All kinds of news from Chile   - International news and their relation to Chile   - Chilean history   - Chilean politics   - Travel information   - Literature, music, and all kinds of artistic expression from Chile   - Food, customs, traditions, etc.   - and much more...    Languages   ---------    Primarily Spanish. English posts are also welcome, to facilitate the   exchange of information with non-Spanish speakers.    E_mail access to the newsgroup   ------------------------------    The newsgroup will be gatewayed to/from the BITNET mailing list CHILE-L,   so users without Usenet can access take part in the discussions by e-mail.   It is understood that this gateway operates by consent of the subscribers   of CHILE-L, who retain the right to withdraw this consent at any time.  [Version en castellano]    Objetivo   --------    El proposito del newsgroup soc.culture.chile es proveer una lugar   en el cual gente de todo el mundo se pueda reunir e intercambiar   opiniones e informacion sobre Chile. Aunque se espera que la mayoria   de los participantes sean chilenos residentes en Chile o en el extranjero,   todo el mundo -- chilenos o no -- son bienvenidos para participar.    Todos los topicos de discusion relevantes a Chile son apropiados. Una   lista no exhaustiva de topicos es:    - Todo tipo de noticias sobre Chile   - Noticias internacionales y su relacion con Chile   - Historia de Chile   - Politica de Chile   - Informacion de viajes   - Literatura, musica, y todo tipo de expresion artistica de Chile   - Comida, costumbres, tradiciones, etc.   - y mucho mas...    Idiomas   -------    Primariamente castellano. La participacion en ingles tambien es   bienvenida, para facilitar el intercambio de informacion con   personas que no hablen castellano.    Acceso al newsgroup via e-mail   ------------------------------    Este newsgroup va a ser comunicado hacia y desde la lista CHILE-L de BITNET,   de modo que los usuarios que no tienen acceso a Usenet puedan participar via   e-mail. Se deja constancia de que esta comunicacion se realiza gracias a la   autorizacion de los suscriptores de CHILE-L, quienes se reservan el derecho   de revocar esta autorizacion en cualquier momento.   soc.culture.chile group vote Final Vote Ack   Yes Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                       M. T. Walter [email protected]                                         jorge jara [email protected]                                            Leonard [email protected]                                 William F. 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