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From [email protected] Fri May 15 17:58:33 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2348 news.groups:51018 soc.culture.indian:85842 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (K. Sankara Rao) Subject: RFD:  soc.culture.telugu Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: North Dakota State University Date: Fri, 15 May 1992 16:13:41 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 24        The purpose of this newsgroup is for exchange of information etc which pertains to telugu speaking persons. Most of the material will not be of interest to general readership of other s.c.* groups. It is expected that a good number of contributions will be in telugu language (written in Roman script because of the keyboard etc - possibly in Tex format for eventual printing in Telugu script). A lot of us do not send any contribution to sci in Telugu for obvious reasons.       Telugu language is one of the oldest surviving languages of the world; it is the third oldest language of India currently being spoken; only Tamil and Kannada have literature predating Telugu literature.                     It is proposed that soc.culture.telugu be formed.       Which will be a more appropriate name for the group: soc.culture.telugu or soc.culture.andhra ?       The discussion period will end on June 11,1992 and voting will begin on June 12,1992 --  K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail [email protected] Department of Electrical Engineering               Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o) North Dakota State University                              (701)235-9912  (h) Fargo, ND 58105  USA  From [email protected]!power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu Mon Jun 29 16:55:13 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2475 news.groups:53476 soc.culture.indian:90898 rec.music.indian.classical:1303 alt.culture.tamil:812 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.classical,alt.culture.tamil Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected]!power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu (K. Sankara Rao) Subject: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.indian.telugu Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1992 19:58:18 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 125  R.F.D: soc.culture.indian.telugu --------------------------------- Status: Unmoderated ------     It is proposed that a USENET newsgroup soc.culture.indian.telugu be formed.  This RFD is a modification of an earlier RFD for soc.culture.telugu (a name change). As such the period of discussion will be limited for a week and a CFV will appear on or around July 6, 1992.  Charter: ------- 	 	Telugu is the twelfth most widely spoken language in the world [1], the second most widely spoken language in India. It is a Dravidian language spoken by about 69 million people.  Earliest written records in Telugu date back to the third century A.D., while polished written literature dates back to about 1000 A.D.  Andhra is the Sanskrit name for Telugu, and most of its speakers are in Andhra Pradesh, a state in the southern part of India. Telugu is one of the four major languages of the Dravidian family, with its own script common to all of its several dialects. Telugu culture dates back to the begining of Christian Era and it has evolved with the inputs from both Sanskritic and Dravidic culture groups.  	The proposed newsgroup is expected to be a forum for discussions on topics that are specific to Telugu culture, with no apparent relevance to persons not interested in Telugu culture and language. Postings relating to Telugu or Andhra Pradesh but are of relevance to others are expected to be crossposted to appropriate newsgroups (eg soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.classical). Likewise, if a topic is not Telugu-specific, it is expected that it will be posted elsewhere in an appropriate forum. Many postings on the proposed newsgroup are likely to be in transliterated Telugu, with an English translation not necessarily accompanying them.   	The following is a partial list of such possible topics.  Arts: ----- Performing Arts: Kuchipudi dance, its style and framework compared to Bharatanatyam and other dance forms from other parts of the country, dance dramas, evolution of Telugu theater, Telugu lyrics in Karnatic classical music, devotional philosophies of its exponents.  Other Arts: Ballads, `harikatha', `burrakatha', their current popularity.  Communication Media:  -------------------  Electronic Media: Quality of Telugu TV programs, State autonomy versus privatization of the TV, relevance of various programs on the TV, its role in social life, in politics, in government, in adult education, its influence on common man, its role as a news media. Same for Radio, with discussion on regional radio stations.  Print Media: News analysis, commentary, editorials, investigative  and yellow journalism in Telugu newspapers, their quality in comparison with national newspapers in English.        	 Literary quality and popular literature in periodicals, soft pornography in weekly magazines, science fiction, educational magazines, children's magazines, comics.  Visual Media: Films: Various genres, modern trends, comparison with other Indian or foreign language films, technical quality, dialects in films, literary quality of songs, obscenity in sight and sound, social issues in films, film personalities such as directors, actors.  Painting, sculpture, handicrafts, puppet shows and street plays.  Developmental Projects: ---------------------- Literacy improvement, adult education, primary health care, eradication of social evils like `Jogin' system and bonded labor, NRI interest in such projects, profiles of social service organizations, social workers, governmental long-term projects.  History: ------- Various theories on the history of the Telugu language and people, life of a common man in various dynasties, current status of native tribes, British influence on the region, migration patterns.  Literature:  ----------  Discussions on classical as well as modern literature may include major literary movements, various literary forms and their relationship to the content, diachronic evolution of the relationship between form and content, influence of world literature and philosophers, folk literature, children's literature, literature in various dialects, translations from other languages, poets, playwrights, novelists, story tellers and such.  Scientific Literature: --------------------- Teaching science in Telugu, scientific vocabulary in Telugu, reviews of science books in Telugu, taking science to rural children.   Software: -------- Good features of a transliteration scheme, various schemes, typesetting in  LaTeX, what-you-see-is-what-you-get software based on transliteration, special spell-checking problems in Telugu, optical character recognition, merits of existing packages, ftp sites for transliterated texts.   Teaching Telugu: --------------- Challenges in teaching Telugu to the second generation (born and settled outside of Andhra Pradesh) - especially that outside of India, designing textbooks, dictionaries and other learning tools for them.   The above is only a small sample of possible topics. It is hoped that the proposed newsgroup will generate discussion on many more such topics.   ------ [1] The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1992, whose source in turn is Sidney S Culbert, University of Washington, Seattle.    K. Sankara Rao Anand Kishore Ramana Idury Sarat C. Vemuri Ramana Juvvadi  From [email protected] Tue Jul 14 00:49:40 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2518 news.groups:54115 soc.culture.indian:92374 alt.culture.tamil:995 rec.music.indian.classical:1345 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.tamil,rec.music.indian.classical Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (K. Sankara Rao) Subject: CFV: soc.culture.indian.telugu Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 02:02:49 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 164  Name:	soc.culture.indian.telugu  Status: Unmoderated.  History: The first RFD was for soc.culture.telugu, but a better          choice seems to be soc.culture.indian.telugu as it aids          in associating this newsgroup with India in the soc.culture.*          hierarchy. There was a previous call for votes on soc.culture.          indian.telugu that did not appear simultaneously on news.groups          and news.announce.newgroups. Later the CFV was recalled and          an RFD was posted with attention drawn to the name change.           This newsgroup is not meant to supplant any news groups in          soc.culture.* hierarchy (in particular soc.culture.indian), but          only supplement them.   How to Vote:           The only way to vote is to send an email to one of the          following addresses. Do not post your vote on any news groups,          it will not be counted.           Please send mail to                     [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote YES for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           Please send mail to                       [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote NO for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           The body of the mail messages will not be read, so please          do not write under what conditions you would like to vote          YES or NO. Mere sending of the mail to one of the addresses          constitutes voting appropriately. In case some one sends          mail to both addresses above, only the latest vote (determined          by "Date" field in the mail header) will count.   Voting Period:    From the time the posting appears until 23:59 GMT, 5th August 1992.  A copy of the RFD is appended in the next page.  R.F.D: soc.culture.indian.telugu --------------------------------- Status: Unmoderated ------     It is proposed that a USENET newsgroup soc.culture.indian.telugu be formed.  This RFD is a modification of an earlier RFD for soc.culture.telugu (a name change). As such the period of discussion will be limited for a week and a CFV will appear on or around July 6, 1992.  Charter: ------- 	 	Telugu is the twelfth most widely spoken language in the world [1], the second most widely spoken language in India. It is a Dravidian language spoken by about 69 million people.  Earliest written records in Telugu date back to the third century A.D., while polished written literature dates back to about 1000 A.D.  Andhra is the Sanskrit name for Telugu, and most of its speakers are in Andhra Pradesh, a state in the southern part of India. Telugu is one of the four major languages of the Dravidian family, with its own script common to all of its several dialects. Telugu culture dates back to the beginning of Christian Era and it has evolved with the inputs from both Sanskritic and Dravidic culture groups.  	The proposed newsgroup is expected to be a forum for discussions on topics that are specific to Telugu culture, with no apparent relevance to persons not interested in Telugu culture and language. Postings relating to Telugu or Andhra Pradesh but are of relevance to others are expected to be crossposted to appropriate newsgroups (eg soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.classical). Likewise, if a topic is not Telugu-specific, it is expected that it will be posted elsewhere in an appropriate forum. Many postings on the proposed newsgroup are likely to be in transliterated Telugu, with an English translation not necessarily accompanying them.   	The following is a partial list of such possible topics.  Arts: ----- Performing Arts: Kuchipudi dance, its style and framework compared to Bharatanatyam and other dance forms from other parts of the country, dance dramas, evolution of Telugu theater, Telugu lyrics in Karnatic classical music, devotional philosophies of its exponents.  Other Arts: Ballads, `harikatha', `burrakatha', their current popularity.  Communication Media:  -------------------  Electronic Media: Quality of Telugu TV programs, State autonomy versus privatization of the TV, relevance of various programs on the TV, its role in social life, in politics, in government, in adult education, its influence on common man, its role as a news media. Same for Radio, with discussion on regional radio stations.  Print Media: News analysis, commentary, editorials, investigative  and yellow journalism in Telugu newspapers, their quality in comparison with national newspapers in English.        	 Literary quality and popular literature in periodicals, soft pornography in weekly magazines, science fiction, educational magazines, children's magazines, comics.  Visual Media: Films: Various genres, modern trends, comparison with other Indian or foreign language films, technical quality, dialects in films, literary quality of songs, obscenity in sight and sound, social issues in films, film personalities such as directors, actors.  Painting, sculpture, handicrafts, puppet shows and street plays.  Developmental Projects: ---------------------- Literacy improvement, adult education, primary health care, eradication of social evils like `Jogin' system and bonded labor, NRI interest in such projects, profiles of social service organizations, social workers, governmental long-term projects.  History: ------- Various theories on the history of the Telugu language and people, life of a common man in various dynasties, current status of native tribes, British influence on the region, migration patterns.  Literature:  ----------  Discussions on classical as well as modern literature may include major literary movements, various literary forms and their relationship to the content, diachronic evolution of the relationship between form and content, influence of world literature and philosophers, folk literature, children's literature, literature in various dialects, translations from other languages, poets, playwrights, novelists, story tellers and such.  Scientific Literature: --------------------- Teaching science in Telugu, scientific vocabulary in Telugu, reviews of science books in Telugu, taking science to rural children.   Software: -------- Good features of a transliteration scheme, various schemes, typesetting in  LaTeX, what-you-see-is-what-you-get software based on transliteration, special spell-checking problems in Telugu, optical character recognition, merits of existing packages, ftp sites for transliterated texts.   Teaching Telugu: --------------- Challenges in teaching Telugu to the second generation (born and settled outside of Andhra Pradesh) - especially that outside of India, designing textbooks, dictionaries and other learning tools for them.   The above is only a small sample of possible topics. It is hoped that the proposed newsgroup will generate discussion on many more such topics.   ------ [1] The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1992, whose source in turn is Sidney S Culbert, University of Washington, Seattle.   K. Sankara Rao  From [email protected] Thu Jul 16 12:00:21 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2527 news.groups:54255 soc.culture.indian:92720 alt.culture.tamil:1011 rec.music.indian.classical:1357 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.tamil,rec.music.indian.classical Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (K. Sankara Rao) Subject: CFV: soc.culture.indian.telugu Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1992 22:15:07 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 168  [ This Call for Votes supersedes the one posted earlier to correct the   address for NO votes. --tale ]  Name:	soc.culture.indian.telugu  Status: Unmoderated.  History: The first RFD was for soc.culture.telugu, but a better          choice seems to be soc.culture.indian.telugu as it aids          in associating this newsgroup with India in the soc.culture.*          hierarchy. There was a previous call for votes on soc.culture.          indian.telugu that did not appear simultaneously on news.groups          and news.announce.newgroups. Later the CFV was recalled and          an RFD was posted with attention drawn to the name change.           This newsgroup is not meant to supplant any news groups in          soc.culture.* hierarchy (in particular soc.culture.indian), but          only supplement them.   How to Vote:           The only way to vote is to send an email to one of the          following addresses. Do not post your vote on any news groups,          it will not be counted.           Please send mail to                     [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote YES for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           Please send mail to                       [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote NO for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           The body of the mail messages will not be read, so please          do not write under what conditions you would like to vote          YES or NO. Mere sending of the mail to one of the addresses          constitutes voting appropriately. In case some one sends          mail to both addresses above, only the latest vote (determined          by "Date" field in the mail header) will count.   Voting Period:    From the time the posting appears until 23:59 GMT, 5th August 1992.  A copy of the RFD is appended in the next page.  R.F.D: soc.culture.indian.telugu --------------------------------- Status: Unmoderated ------     It is proposed that a USENET newsgroup soc.culture.indian.telugu be formed.  This RFD is a modification of an earlier RFD for soc.culture.telugu (a name change). As such the period of discussion will be limited for a week and a CFV will appear on or around July 6, 1992.  Charter: ------- 	 	Telugu is the twelfth most widely spoken language in the world [1], the second most widely spoken language in India. It is a Dravidian language spoken by about 69 million people.  Earliest written records in Telugu date back to the third century A.D., while polished written literature dates back to about 1000 A.D.  Andhra is the Sanskrit name for Telugu, and most of its speakers are in Andhra Pradesh, a state in the southern part of India. Telugu is one of the four major languages of the Dravidian family, with its own script common to all of its several dialects. Telugu culture dates back to the beginning of Christian Era and it has evolved with the inputs from both Sanskritic and Dravidic culture groups.  	The proposed newsgroup is expected to be a forum for discussions on topics that are specific to Telugu culture, with no apparent relevance to persons not interested in Telugu culture and language. Postings relating to Telugu or Andhra Pradesh but are of relevance to others are expected to be crossposted to appropriate newsgroups (eg soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.classical). Likewise, if a topic is not Telugu-specific, it is expected that it will be posted elsewhere in an appropriate forum. Many postings on the proposed newsgroup are likely to be in transliterated Telugu, with an English translation not necessarily accompanying them.   	The following is a partial list of such possible topics.  Arts: ----- Performing Arts: Kuchipudi dance, its style and framework compared to Bharatanatyam and other dance forms from other parts of the country, dance dramas, evolution of Telugu theater, Telugu lyrics in Karnatic classical music, devotional philosophies of its exponents.  Other Arts: Ballads, `harikatha', `burrakatha', their current popularity.  Communication Media:  -------------------  Electronic Media: Quality of Telugu TV programs, State autonomy versus privatization of the TV, relevance of various programs on the TV, its role in social life, in politics, in government, in adult education, its influence on common man, its role as a news media. Same for Radio, with discussion on regional radio stations.  Print Media: News analysis, commentary, editorials, investigative  and yellow journalism in Telugu newspapers, their quality in comparison with national newspapers in English.        	 Literary quality and popular literature in periodicals, soft pornography in weekly magazines, science fiction, educational magazines, children's magazines, comics.  Visual Media: Films: Various genres, modern trends, comparison with other Indian or foreign language films, technical quality, dialects in films, literary quality of songs, obscenity in sight and sound, social issues in films, film personalities such as directors, actors.  Painting, sculpture, handicrafts, puppet shows and street plays.  Developmental Projects: ---------------------- Literacy improvement, adult education, primary health care, eradication of social evils like `Jogin' system and bonded labor, NRI interest in such projects, profiles of social service organizations, social workers, governmental long-term projects.  History: ------- Various theories on the history of the Telugu language and people, life of a common man in various dynasties, current status of native tribes, British influence on the region, migration patterns.  Literature:  ----------  Discussions on classical as well as modern literature may include major literary movements, various literary forms and their relationship to the content, diachronic evolution of the relationship between form and content, influence of world literature and philosophers, folk literature, children's literature, literature in various dialects, translations from other languages, poets, playwrights, novelists, story tellers and such.  Scientific Literature: --------------------- Teaching science in Telugu, scientific vocabulary in Telugu, reviews of science books in Telugu, taking science to rural children.   Software: -------- Good features of a transliteration scheme, various schemes, typesetting in  LaTeX, what-you-see-is-what-you-get software based on transliteration, special spell-checking problems in Telugu, optical character recognition, merits of existing packages, ftp sites for transliterated texts.   Teaching Telugu: --------------- Challenges in teaching Telugu to the second generation (born and settled outside of Andhra Pradesh) - especially that outside of India, designing textbooks, dictionaries and other learning tools for them.   The above is only a small sample of possible topics. It is hoped that the proposed newsgroup will generate discussion on many more such topics.   ------ [1] The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1992, whose source in turn is Sidney S Culbert, University of Washington, Seattle.   K. Sankara Rao   From [email protected] Sun Jul 26 21:30:36 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2563 news.groups:54663 soc.culture.indian:93618 rec.music.indian.classical:1387 alt.culture.tamil:1045 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,rec.music.indian.classical,alt.culture.tamil Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ananda Kishore) Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.indian.telugu Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:53:13 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 169  Second Call for Votes on the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu  Voting is in progress on the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu. This is the second call for votes. A mass confirmation of valid votes will be posted along with the third CFV, in about a week. Thanks.   Name:	soc.culture.indian.telugu  Status: Unmoderated.  History: The first RFD was for soc.culture.telugu, but a better          choice seems to be soc.culture.indian.telugu as it aids          in associating this newsgroup with India in the soc.culture.*          hierarchy. There was a previous call for votes on soc.culture.          indian.telugu that did not appear simultaneously on news.groups          and news.announce.newgroups. Later the CFV was recalled and          an RFD was posted with attention drawn to the name change.           This newsgroup is not meant to supplant any news groups in          soc.culture.* hierarchy (in particular soc.culture.indian), but          only to supplement them.   How to Vote:           The only way to vote is to send an email to one of the          following addresses. Do not post your vote on any news groups,          it will not be counted.           Please send mail to                     [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote YES for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           Please send mail to                       [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote NO for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           The body of the mail messages will not be read, so please          do not write under what conditions you would like to vote          YES or NO. Mere sending of the mail to one of the addresses          constitutes voting appropriately. In case some one sends          mail to both addresses above, only the latest vote (determined          by "Date" field in the mail header) will count.   Voting Period:    Until 23:59 GMT, 5th August 1992.  A copy of the RFD is appended in the next page.  R.F.D: soc.culture.indian.telugu --------------------------------- Status: Unmoderated ------     It is proposed that a USENET newsgroup soc.culture.indian.telugu be formed.  This RFD is a modification of an earlier RFD for soc.culture.telugu (a name change). As such the period of discussion will be limited for a week and a CFV will appear on or around July 6, 1992.  Charter: ------- 	 	Telugu is the twelfth most widely spoken language in the world [1], the second most widely spoken language in India. It is a Dravidian language spoken by about 69 million people.  Earliest written records in Telugu date back to the third century A.D., while polished written literature dates back to about 1000 A.D.  Andhra is the Sanskrit name for Telugu, and most of its speakers are in Andhra Pradesh, a state in the southern part of India. Telugu is one of the four major languages of the Dravidian family, with its own script common to all of its several dialects. Telugu culture dates back to the beginning of Christian Era and it has evolved with the inputs from both Sanskritic and Dravidic culture groups.  	The proposed newsgroup is expected to be a forum for discussions on topics that are specific to Telugu culture, with no apparent relevance to persons not interested in Telugu culture and language. Postings relating to Telugu or Andhra Pradesh but are of relevance to others are expected to be crossposted to appropriate newsgroups (eg soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.classical). Likewise, if a topic is not Telugu-specific, it is expected that it will be posted elsewhere in an appropriate forum. Many postings on the proposed newsgroup are likely to be in transliterated Telugu, with an English translation not necessarily accompanying them.   	The following is a partial list of such possible topics.  Arts: ----- Performing Arts: Kuchipudi dance, its style and framework compared to Bharatanatyam and other dance forms from other parts of the country, dance dramas, evolution of Telugu theater, Telugu lyrics in Karnatic classical music, devotional philosophies of its exponents.  Other Arts: Ballads, `harikatha', `burrakatha', their current popularity.  Communication Media:  -------------------  Electronic Media: Quality of Telugu TV programs, State autonomy versus privatization of the TV, relevance of various programs on the TV, its role in social life, in politics, in government, in adult education, its influence on common man, its role as a news media. Same for Radio, with discussion on regional radio stations.  Print Media: News analysis, commentary, editorials, investigative  and yellow journalism in Telugu newspapers, their quality in comparison with national newspapers in English.        	 Literary quality and popular literature in periodicals, soft pornography in weekly magazines, science fiction, educational magazines, children's magazines, comics.  Visual Media: Films: Various genres, modern trends, comparison with other Indian or foreign language films, technical quality, dialects in films, literary quality of songs, obscenity in sight and sound, social issues in films, film personalities such as directors, actors.  Painting, sculpture, handicrafts, puppet shows and street plays.  Developmental Projects: ---------------------- Literacy improvement, adult education, primary health care, eradication of social evils like `Jogin' system and bonded labor, NRI interest in such projects, profiles of social service organizations, social workers, governmental long-term projects.  History: ------- Various theories on the history of the Telugu language and people, life of a common man in various dynasties, current status of native tribes, British influence on the region, migration patterns.  Literature:  ----------  Discussions on classical as well as modern literature may include major literary movements, various literary forms and their relationship to the content, diachronic evolution of the relationship between form and content, influence of world literature and philosophers, folk literature, children's literature, literature in various dialects, translations from other languages, poets, playwrights, novelists, story tellers and such.  Scientific Literature: --------------------- Teaching science in Telugu, scientific vocabulary in Telugu, reviews of science books in Telugu, taking science to rural children.   Software: -------- Good features of a transliteration scheme, various schemes, typesetting in  LaTeX, what-you-see-is-what-you-get software based on transliteration, special spell-checking problems in Telugu, optical character recognition, merits of existing packages, ftp sites for transliterated texts.   Teaching Telugu: --------------- Challenges in teaching Telugu to the second generation (born and settled outside of Andhra Pradesh) - especially that outside of India, designing textbooks, dictionaries and other learning tools for them.   The above is only a small sample of possible topics. It is hoped that the proposed newsgroup will generate discussion on many more such topics.   ------ [1] The World Almanac and Book of Facts 1992, whose source in turn is Sidney S Culbert, University of Washington, Seattle.   K. Sankara Rao  From [email protected] Thu Jul 30 16:49:51 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2585 news.groups:54852 soc.culture.indian:94327 soc.culture.tamil:55 rec.music.indian.classical:1413 alt.culture.tamil:1068 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,rec.music.indian.classical,alt.culture.tamil Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ananda Kishore) Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: soc.culture.indian.telugu Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Rice Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:24:56 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 451  Final Call for Votes on the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu  Voting is in progress on the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu. This is the third call for votes. A list of valid votes received prior  to 10:00pm, July 29, 1992 is appended at the end. Thanks for all those who participated in the voting. If you have voted and if your name does not appear in the list, please send email to [email protected]   Name:	soc.culture.indian.telugu  Status: Unmoderated.  How to Vote:           The only way to vote is to send an email to one of the          following addresses. Do not post your vote on any news groups,          it will not be counted.           Please send mail to                     [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote YES for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           Please send mail to                       [email protected] if and only if you wish                    to vote NO for the formation of soc.culture.indian.telugu.           The body of the mail messages will not be read, so please          do not write under what conditions you would like to vote          YES or NO. Mere sending of the mail to one of the addresses          constitutes voting appropriately. In case some one sends          mail to both addresses above, only the latest vote (determined          by "Date" field in the mail header) will count.   Voting Period: Until 23:59 GMT, 5th August 1992.  History and Charter: Please see the previous CFV.   List of Votes Received so far: ------------------------------  "[email protected]"  "V.S.N.K. Chilukuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vegesna Srinivas Raju" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Joel Furr" "[email protected]"  "Gutti Jogesh Babu 814-863-2837" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "[email protected]" "KM63%[email protected]"  "KM64633+" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gopi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "PcdTNR%IsdPcd%[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "M.V.S. Ravisankar" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "SDEVARA1%[email protected]"  "suryanarayana devarakonda" "[email protected]"  "PRABHAKAR" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "UABPVB01%[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "vani bolnedi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Krishna.K.Kallakuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Nageshwar Aita" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Narayana Rao V Aluru" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "P. I. Arasu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vara Prasad" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Natarajan Sureshbabu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Ajai Banarji" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Bhaskar Venkata Cholasamudram" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Bjorn Knutsson" "[email protected]"  "Girish Bonde" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Kamineni Bose" "[email protected]"  "Bala Brahmanandam Madaparthi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "K. Chandrasekhar" "[email protected]"  "Chockanath R Chandrasekar" "[email protected]"  "Sreehari Nimmala" "[email protected]"  "Dharmavani Bhagavathi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Harpal Chohan" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Djamal Bouzida" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sivaram Dommeti" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "preeti" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gandhi Rajiv Chandrakant" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gopi K. Attaluri" "[email protected]"  "Sreenadha Babu Godavarthy" "[email protected]"  "Himanshu Gohel" "[email protected]"  "Gokul V Donthi[C]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vidyasagar Golla" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gopichand Koganti"??  "[email protected]"  "Kishore K. Gopu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]@fai.fai.com (Srihari Kotcherlakota)" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Nallanthighal Venkata C" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Ramana R. Juvvadi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Neeran M. Karnik" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Karuna Reddy" "[email protected]"  "Kumar C Ashok" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "KETHEESWARAN/NANNITHAMBY/MR" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Krishna Harathi" "[email protected]"  "ipm" "[email protected]"  "Ananda Kishore" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Konuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Raghu Korrapati" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Krishna Ganugapati" "[email protected]"  "Krishna Reddy" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "murali krishna" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "kuppa subrahmanyam" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Laxman Kumar" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Anup Mathur" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "C Kumar Metlapalli" "[email protected]"  "MGIC Investment Corp." "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Bhaskara R Moole" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Madhu Raj Koka" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "MURTY Hema Sandhyarani" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Narsimha Polkampally" "[email protected]"  "Naveen Goud" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "V Nagarajan" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"?? "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Rao V Parasa" "[email protected]"  "R. Parthasarathy" "[email protected]"  "Gopal Parupudi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Kalyan Pathuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Prasad" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "PVR Narasimha Rao" "[email protected]"  "Ramakrishna Chada" "[email protected]"  "Radha Modukuri Idury" "[email protected]"  "K.V.V. S. Radhamadhav" "[email protected]"  "Raghu P. Chalasani" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Raghuram Tupuri" "[email protected]"  "M. P. Krishna Raj" "[email protected]"  "Raja" "[email protected]" "ram%[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Anand Ramachandrula" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Rammohan Modepalle" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "[email protected]" "[email protected]"??  "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Repala" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Jim Roche" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Holmes" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sanjay" "sarang%[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "DEC Nihon. Tokyo. Ph: (81)-3-5992-7581  15-Jul-1992 1031" "[email protected]"  "Sssastry Duri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Seetha Garikapati" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sheshadri R.S." "[email protected]"  "Pankaj Shah" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sreevidya Katna 913" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Somasundar Krothapalli" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"??  "[email protected]"  "Sanjai Parthasarath" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Shyam Pullela" "[email protected]"  "Srinivasa Rao" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sreenivasa R Tellakula[C]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sudhakar Tadepalli" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sekhar Surapaneni" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "G Ananthasuresh" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sven Heinicke" "[email protected]"  "Siram Rao" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Tim Szeliga" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sam Hill Cabal, DS" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Veerapaneni" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Venkateshwarlu Maroju" "[email protected]"  "Venkat Taramangalam" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gopal" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vuppala V. Babu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "S. Yagnamurthy" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Ramesh Yerraballi" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Lakshmi Y" "[email protected]"  From [email protected] Fri Aug  7 20:56:10 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2607 news.groups:55143 soc.culture.indian:95117 soc.culture.tamil:316 rec.music.indian.classical:1454 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,rec.music.indian.classical,alt.culture.tamil Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ananda Kishore) Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.indian.telugu passes 388: 103 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Rice Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1992 23:34:49 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 529               SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN.TELUGU PASSES    388 : 103                              The voting for soc.culture.indian.telugu has ended with    a tally of 388 'YES' votes to 103 'NO' votes.      The voting process was monitored by Ramana Juvvadi, since     Dr. K.Sankara Rao (who was the original vote-taker) left for a    vacation after the first CFV was issued.      We are providing below the list of votes received for     soc.culture.indian.telugu, classified into YES votes and     NO votes. We have detected a few cases of a single person     casting votes from multiple accounts. In cases where we could    ascertain such an occurance, we have deleted all duplicate votes    from the YES list, which were 8 in number. However, we have     not done a similar check on the NO list, so the number     of NO votes are just as many as were received.  Votes cast by     the same person for both YES and NO lists were resolved by    considering the latest vote.     We thank all the people who took time to vote, and apologize if any    of the votes deleted from the YES list were indeed genuine. A five-day    waiting period follows. Please inform any problems with these votes    to Ramana Juvvadi at [email protected]   - Ananda Kishore    Ramana Idury    Sarat Vemuri    Ramana V. Juvvadi  YES votes ---------  "[email protected]"  "V.S.N.K. Chilukuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Krishna.K.Kallakuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Nageshwar Aita" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Narayana Rao V Aluru" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "P. I. Arasu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vegesna Srinivas Raju" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vara Prasad" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Natarajan Sureshbabu" "[email protected]"  "Ajai Banarji" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Bhaskar Venkata Cholasamudram" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Kamineni Bose" "[email protected]"  "Bala Brahmanandam Madaparthi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "K. Chandrasekhar" "[email protected]"  "Chockanath R Chandrasekar" "[email protected]"  "Sreehari Nimmala" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Dharmavani Bhagavathi" "[email protected]"  "Sujeeth Draksharam" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Djamal Bouzida" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sivaram Dommeti" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "preeti" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gandhi Rajiv Chandrakant" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vasu Ganti" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gutti Jogesh Babu 814-863-2837" "[email protected]"  "Gopi K. Attaluri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gokul V Donthi[C]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vidyasagar Golla" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gopichand Koganti" "[email protected]"  "Kishore K. Gopu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]@fai.fai.com (Srihari Kotcherlakota)" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Nallanthighal Venkata C" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "JILLYBOO" "[email protected] "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Ramana R. Juvvadi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Kumar C Ashok" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "KETHEESWARAN/NANNITHAMBY/MR" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Krishna Harathi" "[email protected]"  "Ananda Kishore" "KM63%[email protected]"  "KM64633+" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Raghu Korrapati" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Krishna Ganugapati" "[email protected]"  "Krishna Reddy" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "murali krishna" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "kuppa subrahmanyam" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Laxman Kumar" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Anup Mathur" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Praveen K. Mereddy" "[email protected]"  "C Kumar Metlapalli" "[email protected]"  "MGIC Investment Corp." "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Bhaskara R Moole" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Madhu Raj Koka" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "MURTY Hema Sandhyarani" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Narsimha Polkampally" "[email protected]"  "Naveen Goud" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Nianfeng Chen" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Niranjan B Ravulapalli" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "P.S. Susarla" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Rao V Parasa" "[email protected]"  "R. Parthasarathy" "[email protected]"  "Gopal Parupudi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Kalyan Pathuri" "PcdTNR%IsdPcd%[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Prabhakar Satya" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Prasad" "[email protected]"  "Prasad Reddy Adem" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "PVR Narasimha Rao" "[email protected]"  "Ramakrishna Chada" "[email protected]"  "Radha Modukuri Idury" "[email protected]"  "K.V.V. S. Radhamadhav" "[email protected]"  "Raghu P. Chalasani" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Raghuram Tupuri" "[email protected]"  "M. P. Krishna Raj" "[email protected]"  "Raja" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Kambalapally N. Rajreddy" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "ram%[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Anand Ramachandrula" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Rammohan Modepalle" "[email protected]"  "Ram Ramarao" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "V.S.S.Rao" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "M.V.S. Ravisankar" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Repala" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Ramudu Manchi Baaludu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Holmes" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "DEC Nihon. Tokyo. Ph: (81)-3-5992-7581  15-Jul-1992 1031" "sastry[email protected]"  "Sssastry Duri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "SDEVARA1%[email protected]"  "suryanarayana devarakonda" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Seetha Garikapati" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sheshadri R.S." "[email protected]"  "Pankaj Shah" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Prakriya Shankar" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sreevidya Katna 913" "[email protected]"  "PRABHAKAR" "[email protected]"  "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Somasundar Krothapalli" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Shyam Pullela" "[email protected]"  "Srinivasa Rao" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Kandala" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sreenivasa R Tellakula[C]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sudhakar Tadepalli" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sekhar Surapaneni" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Siram Rao" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Tomas Chylek" "UABPVB01%[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "URAKKINENI%[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "vani bolnedi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Veerapaneni" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "Sudhakar Vemuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Venkateshwarlu Maroju" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "S. Venkatesan" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Gopal" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Vuppala V. Babu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "S. Yagnamurthy" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Ramesh Yerraballi" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Lakshmi Y" "[email protected]"  NO votes ________  "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Bjorn Knutsson" "[email protected]"  "Girish Bonde" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Harpal Chohan" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "Paulo da Costa 42147" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Joel Furr" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sreenadha Babu Godavarthy" "[email protected]"  "Himanshu Gohel" "[email protected]"  "Vipin Goyle" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]ul.rutgers.edu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "poornima kamath" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Neeran M. Karnik" "[email protected]"  "Karuna Reddy" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "ipm" "[email protected]"  "Srinivas Konuri" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Nick Sayer" "[email protected]"  "Rajiv Gandhi" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "V Nagarajan" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Po Shan Cheah" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Jim Roche" "[email protected]"  "Charlie Root" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sailesh Babu" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sanjay" "[email protected]" "sarang%[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sharad Mishra" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sanjai Parthasarath" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "G Ananthasuresh" "[email protected]"  "Sven Heinicke" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Tim Szeliga" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Sam Hill Cabal, DS" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"  "Venkat Taramangalam" "[email protected]"  "Gopakumar VENUGOPALAN" "[email protected]"  "V. Girish" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]" "[email protected]"   From [email protected] Thu Mar 28 14:13:31 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Kamala Anupindi) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian.telugu Subject: RFD: soc.culture.indian.telugu moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:13:26 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 137 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.indian.telugu Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8473 news.groups:197627 soc.culture.indian.telugu:39533                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)               moderated group soc.culture.indian.telugu  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for changing the status of the USENET newsgroup soc.culture.indian.telugu (SCIT) from an unmoderated to an automoderated newsgroup.This RFD is a modification of the RFD for existing SCIT newsgroup. The period of discussion is three weeks. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV). You cannot vote at this time. A Call For Vote (CFV) will appear in several weeks.  Procedural details are given below.  Nesgroups line: soc.culture.indian.telugu       The culture of the Telugu people of India.  RATIONALE: soc.culture.indian.telugu  The usenet group soc.culture.india.telugu was created to serve as a forum for discussion of Telugu culture and matters related to Andhra Pradesh. As you are aware, soc.culture.india (SCI) serves as a medium for discussion of matters of India-wide interest. It was intended that discussions on SCIT would cover subjects such as arts (kuchipudi etc), telugu literature, AP politics, developmental projects from AP, telugu movies etc.  Unfortunately, for quite some time now, SCIT has been deluged with crossposts from other newsgroups. The contents of these posts have absolutely no relevance whatsoever to either Telugu culture or other topics suggested in the original charter of SCIT. This crossposting phenomenon has single handedly resulted in SCIT (in its current form of an unmoderated group) losing the purpose for which it was created.  Anecdotally at least, there seem to be  a great many people interested in Telugu culture who would be delighted to read and contribute to SCIT, were it not for the inordinate noise level. At the same time, many current and prospective SCIT readers oppose the idea of a fully moderated SCIT due to the potential for censorship. Additionally, moderation entails practical pitfalls such as the difficulty of finding qualified volunteers and possible delays in the appearance of postings.  CHARTER: soc.culture.indian.telugu  Since this is a proposal to change just the STATUS of the newsgroup, the charter shall remain as proposed at the time of the formation of this group in its unmoderated form. This charter can be found at http://metro.turnpike.net/telugu/automod.html  Moderation Policy:  The moderation will be primarily for the purpose of eliminating the cross-postings. The moderation will be done by auto-moderation tools (custom-built computer programs), with human intervention kept to the minimum level required to keep said programs operating satisfactorily. The tools will be utilized to auto-moderate posts to the forum by rejecting cross-posts.  Posts will not be checked for their contents !!!  We feel that such restrictions are needed, considering the large number of irrelevant postings that are flooding SCIT in its current form. While we believe in freedom of expression, practice it to the fullest, and encourage it in others, we think the restriction placed is within reason. It may be noted that *NO* restriction is proposed on language use, on topics allowed, or content, and that we have deliberately refrained from human moderation, to eliminate all possible subjectivity in moderation. Our only aim is to create a newsgroup that allows the fullest freedom to discuss all issues as specified in the original charter of SCIT , but removes material that are of no interest (which is generally the case with crossposts).  The code used to carry out the filtering has been thoroughly tested, and is available by request from the proposed moderator.  It is expected that by eliminating the large number of crossposts by using an automoderator program, soc.culture.indian.telugu will be restored to its original form and serve the purpose for which it was created: i.e serve as a forum for people to discuss issues relating to Telugu language and culture.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.indian.telugu  Moderator: [email protected] (Ratnakar Sonthi)       (1) Moderator: [email protected] (Suresh Kolichala)      (2)   (*) -- actual moderation will be done by a program.  (1) -- hardware maintainer  (2) -- software maintainer  END MODERATOR INFO.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  soc.culture.indian.telugu, news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,  and the following mailing lists after the RFD has appeared in news.announce.newgroups.  <[email protected]> (teluSA list) <[email protected]> (telugu digest)  Proponent: Kamala Anupindi <[email protected]> Proponent: Sitaramayya Ari <[email protected]> Proponent: Chowdary Jampala <[email protected]> Proponent: Ramana Juvvadi <[email protected]> Proponent: Suresh Koichala <[email protected]> Proponent: Aravinda Pillalamarri <[email protected]> Proponent: Bapa Rao <[email protected]>  Follow-ups have been directed to news.groups. Please honor that and keep the discussion to news.groups.  --   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NPAC, 111 College Place, Syracuse University, Syracuse NY 13244 URL:  http://www.npac.syr.edu/users/kamala/homepage  From [email protected] Wed May 15 18:46:22 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian.telugu Subject: CFV: moderate soc.culture.indian.telugu Followup-To: poster Date: 15 May 1996 22:46:29 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 263 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jun 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.indian.telugu Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8681 news.groups:206557 soc.culture.indian.telugu:42897                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)  moderated group soc.culture.indian.telugu (moderates existing group)  Newsgroups line: soc.culture.indian.telugu	The culture of the Telugu people of India. (Moderated)  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Kamala Anupindi <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: soc.culture.indian.telugu  The usenet group soc.culture.india.telugu was created to serve as a forum for discussion of Telugu culture and matters related to Andhra Pradesh.  Unfortunately, for quite some time now, SCIT has been deluged with crossposts from other newsgroups. The contents of these posts have absolutely no relevance whatsoever to either Telugu culture or other topics suggested in the original charter of SCIT. This crossposting phenomenon has single handedly resulted in SCIT (in its current form of an unmoderated group) losing the purpose for which it was created.  Anecdotally at least, there seem to be  a great many people interested in Telugu culture who would be delighted to read and contribute to SCIT, were it not for the inordinate noise level. At the same time, many current and prospective SCIT readers oppose the idea of a fully moderated SCIT due to the potential for censorship. Additionally, moderation entails practical pitfalls such as the difficulty of finding qualified volunteers and possible delays in the appearance of postings.  It is hence proposed that the group's status be changed to one of an automoderated group. The moderation will be primarily for the purpose of eliminating the cross-postings. The moderation will be done by auto-moderation tools (custom-built computer programs), with human intervention kept to the minimum level required to keep said programs operating satisfactorily. The tools will be utilized to auto-moderate posts to the forum by rejecting cross-posts.  Posts will not be checked for their contents !!!  The code used to carry out the filtering has been thoroughly tested, and is available by request from the proposed moderator.  We feel that such restrictions are needed, considering the large number of irrelevant postings that are flooding SCIT in its current form.  Our only aim is to create a newsgroup that allows the fullest freedom to discuss all issues as specified in the original charter of SCIT, but removes material that are of no interest (which is generally the case with crossposts). It is expected that by eliminating the large number of crossposts by using an automoderator program, soc.culture.indian.telugu will be restored to its original form and serve the purpose for which it was created: i.e serve as a forum for people to discuss issues relating to Telugu language and culture.  CHARTER: soc.culture.indian.telugu  It is proposed that the usenet group soc.culture.indian.telugu be changed from its current status of an unmoderated group to an automoderated group.  The original charter follows:          Telugu is the twelfth most widely spoken language in the world [1], the second most widely spoken language in India. It is a Dravidian language spoken by about 69 million people.  Earliest written records in Telugu date back to the third century A.D., while polished written literature dates back to about 1000 A.D.  Andhra is the Sanskrit name for Telugu, and most of its speakers are in Andhra Pradesh, a state in the southern part of India. Telugu is one of the four major languages of the Dravidian family, with its own script common to all of its several dialects. Telugu culture dates back to the begining of Christian Era and it has evolved with the inputs from both Sanskritic and Dravidic culture groups.          The proposed newsgroup is expected to be a forum for discussions on topics that are specific to Telugu culture, with no apparent relevance to persons not interested in Telugu culture and language. Postings relating to Telugu or Andhra Pradesh but are of relevance to others are expected to be crossposted to appropriate newsgroups (eg soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.classical). Likewise, if a topic is not Telugu-specific, it is expected that it will be posted elsewhere in an appropriate forum. Many postings on the proposed newsgroup are likely to be in transliterated Telugu, with an English translation not necessarily accompanying them.          The following is a partial list of such possible topics.  Arts: ----- Performing Arts: Kuchipudi dance, its style and framework compared to Bharatanatyam and other dance forms from other parts of the country, dance dramas, evolution of Telugu theater, Telugu lyrics in Karnatic classical music, devotional philosophies of its exponents.  Other Arts: Ballads, `harikatha', `burrakatha', their current popularity.  Communication Media: ------------------- Electronic Media: Quality of Telugu TV programs, State autonomy versus privatization of the TV, relevance of various programs on the TV, its role in social life, in politics, in government, in adult education, its influence on common man, its role as a news media. Same for Radio, with discussion on regional radio stations.  Print Media: News analysis, commentary, editorials, investigative and yellow journalism in Telugu newspapers, their quality in comparison with national newspapers in English.  Literary quality and popular literature in periodicals, soft pornography in weekly magazines, science fiction, educational magazines, children's magazines, comics.  Visual Media: Films: Various genres, modern trends, comparison with other Indian or foreign language films, technical quality, dialects in films, literary quality of songs, obscenity in sight and sound, social issues in films, film personalities such as directors, actors.  Painting, sculpture, handicrafts, puppet shows and street plays.  Developmental Projects: ---------------------- Literacy improvement, adult education, primary health care, eradication of social evils like `Jogin' system and bonded labor, NRI interest in such projects, profiles of social service organizations, social workers, governmental long-term projects.  History: ------- Various theories on the history of the Telugu language and people, life of a common man in various dynasties, current status of native tribes, British influence on the region, migration patterns.  Literature: ---------- Discussions on classical as well as modern literature may include major literary movements, various literary forms and their relationship to the content, diachronic evolution of the relationship between form and content, influence of world literature and philosophers, folk literature, children's literature, literature in various dialects, translations from other languages, poets, playwrights, novelists, story tellers and such.  Scientific Literature: --------------------- Teaching science in Telugu, scientific vocabulary in Telugu, reviews of science books in Telugu, taking science to rural children.  Software: -------- Good features of a transliteration scheme, various schemes, typesetting in  LaTeX, what-you-see-is-what-you-get software based on transliteration, special spell-checking problems in Telugu, optical character recognition, merits of existing packages, ftp sites for transliterated texts.  Teaching Telugu: --------------- Challenges in teaching Telugu to the second generation (born and settled outside of Andhra Pradesh) - especially that outside of India, designing textbooks, dictionaries and other learning tools for them.  The above is only a small sample of possible topics. It is hoped that the proposed newsgroup will generate discussion on many more such topics.  Moderation Policy:  The moderation will be primarily for the purpose of eliminating the cross-postings. The moderation will be done by auto-moderation tools (custom-built computer programs), with human intervention kept to the minimum level required to keep said programs operating satisfactorily. The tools will be utilized to auto-moderate posts to the forum by rejecting cross-posts.  Posts will not be checked for their contents !!!  We feel that such restrictions are needed, considering the large number of irrelevant postings that are flooding SCIT in its current form. While we believe in freedom of expression, practice it to the fullest, and encourage it in others, we think the restriction placed is within reason. It may be noted that *NO* restriction is proposed on language use, on topics allowed, or content, and that we have deliberately refrained from human moderation, to eliminate all possible subjectivity in moderation. Our only aim is to create a newsgroup that allows the fullest freedom to discuss all issues as specified in the original charter of SCIT , but removes material that are of no interest (which is generally the case with crossposts).  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.indian.telugu  Moderator: Ratnakar Sonthi <[email protected]> Moderator: Suresh Kolichala <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: none  Ratnakar Sonthi -- hardware maintainer Suresh Kolichala -- software maintainer * the actual moderation will be done by a program.  END MODERATOR INFO.  HOW TO VOTE:  You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:       [email protected]  Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:       I vote YES to moderate soc.culture.indian.telugu      I vote NO to moderate soc.culture.indian.telugu  You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count.  NAMES ARE REQUIRED.  If your mail software does not indicate your name, include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).       Voter Name:  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  DISTRIBUTION:  In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists:  Mailing list name: TELUSA Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  Mailing list name: TELUGU (moderated) Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected] --  Jan Isley <[email protected]>           |  Running UseVote 3. votes to: <[email protected]>  |  Powered by FreeBSD  From [email protected] Mon May 27 23:03:48 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian.telugu Subject: 2nd CFV: moderate soc.culture.indian.telugu Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 28 May 1996 03:03:37 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 263 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jun 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.indian.telugu Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8735 news.groups:208256 soc.culture.indian.telugu:43611                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)  moderated group soc.culture.indian.telugu (moderates existing group)  Newsgroups line: soc.culture.indian.telugu	The culture of the Telugu people of India. (Moderated)  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Kamala Anupindi <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: soc.culture.indian.telugu  The usenet group soc.culture.india.telugu was created to serve as a forum for discussion of Telugu culture and matters related to Andhra Pradesh.  Unfortunately, for quite some time now, SCIT has been deluged with crossposts from other newsgroups. The contents of these posts have absolutely no relevance whatsoever to either Telugu culture or other topics suggested in the original charter of SCIT. This crossposting phenomenon has single handedly resulted in SCIT (in its current form of an unmoderated group) losing the purpose for which it was created.  Anecdotally at least, there seem to be  a great many people interested in Telugu culture who would be delighted to read and contribute to SCIT, were it not for the inordinate noise level. At the same time, many current and prospective SCIT readers oppose the idea of a fully moderated SCIT due to the potential for censorship. Additionally, moderation entails practical pitfalls such as the difficulty of finding qualified volunteers and possible delays in the appearance of postings.  It is hence proposed that the group's status be changed to one of an automoderated group. The moderation will be primarily for the purpose of eliminating the cross-postings. The moderation will be done by auto-moderation tools (custom-built computer programs), with human intervention kept to the minimum level required to keep said programs operating satisfactorily. The tools will be utilized to auto-moderate posts to the forum by rejecting cross-posts.  Posts will not be checked for their contents !!!  The code used to carry out the filtering has been thoroughly tested, and is available by request from the proposed moderator.  We feel that such restrictions are needed, considering the large number of irrelevant postings that are flooding SCIT in its current form.  Our only aim is to create a newsgroup that allows the fullest freedom to discuss all issues as specified in the original charter of SCIT, but removes material that are of no interest (which is generally the case with crossposts). It is expected that by eliminating the large number of crossposts by using an automoderator program, soc.culture.indian.telugu will be restored to its original form and serve the purpose for which it was created: i.e serve as a forum for people to discuss issues relating to Telugu language and culture.  CHARTER: soc.culture.indian.telugu  It is proposed that the usenet group soc.culture.indian.telugu be changed >from  its current status of an unmoderated group to an automoderated group.  The original charter follows:          Telugu is the twelfth most widely spoken language in the world [1], the second most widely spoken language in India. It is a Dravidian language spoken by about 69 million people.  Earliest written records in Telugu date back to the third century A.D., while polished written literature dates back to about 1000 A.D.  Andhra is the Sanskrit name for Telugu, and most of its speakers are in Andhra Pradesh, a state in the southern part of India. Telugu is one of the four major languages of the Dravidian family, with its own script common to all of its several dialects. Telugu culture dates back to the begining of Christian Era and it has evolved with the inputs from both Sanskritic and Dravidic culture groups.          The proposed newsgroup is expected to be a forum for discussions on topics that are specific to Telugu culture, with no apparent relevance to persons not interested in Telugu culture and language. Postings relating to Telugu or Andhra Pradesh but are of relevance to others are expected to be crossposted to appropriate newsgroups (eg soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.classical). Likewise, if a topic is not Telugu-specific, it is expected that it will be posted elsewhere in an appropriate forum. Many postings on the proposed newsgroup are likely to be in transliterated Telugu, with an English translation not necessarily accompanying them.          The following is a partial list of such possible topics.  Arts: ----- Performing Arts: Kuchipudi dance, its style and framework compared to Bharatanatyam and other dance forms from other parts of the country, dance dramas, evolution of Telugu theater, Telugu lyrics in Karnatic classical music, devotional philosophies of its exponents.  Other Arts: Ballads, `harikatha', `burrakatha', their current popularity.  Communication Media: ------------------- Electronic Media: Quality of Telugu TV programs, State autonomy versus privatization of the TV, relevance of various programs on the TV, its role in social life, in politics, in government, in adult education, its influence on common man, its role as a news media. Same for Radio, with discussion on regional radio stations.  Print Media: News analysis, commentary, editorials, investigative and yellow journalism in Telugu newspapers, their quality in comparison with national newspapers in English.  Literary quality and popular literature in periodicals, soft pornography in weekly magazines, science fiction, educational magazines, children's magazines, comics.  Visual Media: Films: Various genres, modern trends, comparison with other Indian or foreign language films, technical quality, dialects in films, literary quality of songs, obscenity in sight and sound, social issues in films, film personalities such as directors, actors.  Painting, sculpture, handicrafts, puppet shows and street plays.  Developmental Projects: ---------------------- Literacy improvement, adult education, primary health care, eradication of social evils like `Jogin' system and bonded labor, NRI interest in such projects, profiles of social service organizations, social workers, governmental long-term projects.  History: ------- Various theories on the history of the Telugu language and people, life of a common man in various dynasties, current status of native tribes, British influence on the region, migration patterns.  Literature: ---------- Discussions on classical as well as modern literature may include major literary movements, various literary forms and their relationship to the content, diachronic evolution of the relationship between form and content, influence of world literature and philosophers, folk literature, children's literature, literature in various dialects, translations from other languages, poets, playwrights, novelists, story tellers and such.  Scientific Literature: --------------------- Teaching science in Telugu, scientific vocabulary in Telugu, reviews of science books in Telugu, taking science to rural children.  Software: -------- Good features of a transliteration scheme, various schemes, typesetting in  LaTeX, what-you-see-is-what-you-get software based on transliteration, special spell-checking problems in Telugu, optical character recognition, merits of existing packages, ftp sites for transliterated texts.  Teaching Telugu: --------------- Challenges in teaching Telugu to the second generation (born and settled outside of Andhra Pradesh) - especially that outside of India, designing textbooks, dictionaries and other learning tools for them.  The above is only a small sample of possible topics. It is hoped that the proposed newsgroup will generate discussion on many more such topics.  Moderation Policy:  The moderation will be primarily for the purpose of eliminating the cross-postings. The moderation will be done by auto-moderation tools (custom-built computer programs), with human intervention kept to the minimum level required to keep said programs operating satisfactorily. The tools will be utilized to auto-moderate posts to the forum by rejecting cross-posts.  Posts will not be checked for their contents !!!  We feel that such restrictions are needed, considering the large number of irrelevant postings that are flooding SCIT in its current form. While we believe in freedom of expression, practice it to the fullest, and encourage it in others, we think the restriction placed is within reason. It may be noted that *NO* restriction is proposed on language use, on topics allowed, or content, and that we have deliberately refrained from human moderation, to eliminate all possible subjectivity in moderation. Our only aim is to create a newsgroup that allows the fullest freedom to discuss all issues as specified in the original charter of SCIT , but removes material that are of no interest (which is generally the case with crossposts).  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.indian.telugu  Moderator: Ratnakar Sonthi <[email protected]> Moderator: Suresh Kolichala <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: none  Ratnakar Sonthi -- hardware maintainer Suresh Kolichala -- software maintainer * the actual moderation will be done by a program.  END MODERATOR INFO.  HOW TO VOTE:  You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:       [email protected]  Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:       I vote YES to moderate soc.culture.indian.telugu      I vote NO to moderate soc.culture.indian.telugu  You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count.  NAMES ARE REQUIRED.  If your mail software does not indicate your name, include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).       Voter Name:  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  DISTRIBUTION:  In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists:  Mailing list name: TELUSA Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  Mailing list name: TELUGU (moderated) Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected] --  Jan Isley <[email protected]>           |  Running UseVote 3. votes to: <[email protected]>  |  Powered by FreeBSD  From [email protected] Thu Jun 13 18:07:23 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.indian.telugu Subject: RESULT: moderate soc.culture.indian.telugu passes 276:64 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 13 Jun 1996 18:07:55 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 589 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.indian.telugu Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8824 news.groups:211517 soc.culture.indian.telugu:44421                                  RESULT moderated group soc.culture.indian.telugu (moderates existing group) passes 276:64  soc.culture.indian.telugu results - 340 valid votes   Yes  No  | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group ---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------  276   64 | Yes  Yes |  Yes | soc.culture.indian.telugu    1 abstaining vote and 8 invalid votes   A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.  Newsgroups line: soc.culture.indian.telugu	The culture of the Telugu people of India. (Moderated)  Votes closed on 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Kamala Anupindi <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: soc.culture.indian.telugu  The usenet group soc.culture.india.telugu was created to serve as a forum for discussion of Telugu culture and matters related to Andhra Pradesh.  Unfortunately, for quite some time now, SCIT has been deluged with crossposts from other newsgroups. The contents of these posts have absolutely no relevance whatsoever to either Telugu culture or other topics suggested in the original charter of SCIT. This crossposting phenomenon has single handedly resulted in SCIT (in its current form of an unmoderated group) losing the purpose for which it was created.  Anecdotally at least, there seem to be  a great many people interested in Telugu culture who would be delighted to read and contribute to SCIT, were it not for the inordinate noise level. At the same time, many current and prospective SCIT readers oppose the idea of a fully moderated SCIT due to the potential for censorship. Additionally, moderation entails practical pitfalls such as the difficulty of finding qualified volunteers and possible delays in the appearance of postings.  It is hence proposed that the group's status be changed to one of an automoderated group. The moderation will be primarily for the purpose of eliminating the cross-postings. The moderation will be done by auto-moderation tools (custom-built computer programs), with human intervention kept to the minimum level required to keep said programs operating satisfactorily. The tools will be utilized to auto-moderate posts to the forum by rejecting cross-posts.  Posts will not be checked for their contents !!!  The code used to carry out the filtering has been thoroughly tested, and is available by request from the proposed moderator.  We feel that such restrictions are needed, considering the large number of irrelevant postings that are flooding SCIT in its current form.  Our only aim is to create a newsgroup that allows the fullest freedom to discuss all issues as specified in the original charter of SCIT, but removes material that are of no interest (which is generally the case with crossposts). It is expected that by eliminating the large number of crossposts by using an automoderator program, soc.culture.indian.telugu will be restored to its original form and serve the purpose for which it was created: i.e serve as a forum for people to discuss issues relating to Telugu language and culture.  CHARTER: soc.culture.indian.telugu  It is proposed that the usenet group soc.culture.indian.telugu be changed >from  its current status of an unmoderated group to an automoderated group.  The original charter follows:          Telugu is the twelfth most widely spoken language in the world [1], the second most widely spoken language in India. It is a Dravidian language spoken by about 69 million people.  Earliest written records in Telugu date back to the third century A.D., while polished written literature dates back to about 1000 A.D.  Andhra is the Sanskrit name for Telugu, and most of its speakers are in Andhra Pradesh, a state in the southern part of India. Telugu is one of the four major languages of the Dravidian family, with its own script common to all of its several dialects. Telugu culture dates back to the begining of Christian Era and it has evolved with the inputs from both Sanskritic and Dravidic culture groups.          The proposed newsgroup is expected to be a forum for discussions on topics that are specific to Telugu culture, with no apparent relevance to persons not interested in Telugu culture and language. Postings relating to Telugu or Andhra Pradesh but are of relevance to others are expected to be crossposted to appropriate newsgroups (eg soc.culture.indian, rec.music.indian.classical). Likewise, if a topic is not Telugu-specific, it is expected that it will be posted elsewhere in an appropriate forum. Many postings on the proposed newsgroup are likely to be in transliterated Telugu, with an English translation not necessarily accompanying them.          The following is a partial list of such possible topics.  Arts: ----- Performing Arts: Kuchipudi dance, its style and framework compared to Bharatanatyam and other dance forms from other parts of the country, dance dramas, evolution of Telugu theater, Telugu lyrics in Karnatic classical music, devotional philosophies of its exponents.  Other Arts: Ballads, `harikatha', `burrakatha', their current popularity.  Communication Media: ------------------- Electronic Media: Quality of Telugu TV programs, State autonomy versus privatization of the TV, relevance of various programs on the TV, its role in social life, in politics, in government, in adult education, its influence on common man, its role as a news media. Same for Radio, with discussion on regional radio stations.  Print Media: News analysis, commentary, editorials, investigative and yellow journalism in Telugu newspapers, their quality in comparison with national newspapers in English.  Literary quality and popular literature in periodicals, soft pornography in weekly magazines, science fiction, educational magazines, children's magazines, comics.  Visual Media: Films: Various genres, modern trends, comparison with other Indian or foreign language films, technical quality, dialects in films, literary quality of songs, obscenity in sight and sound, social issues in films, film personalities such as directors, actors.  Painting, sculpture, handicrafts, puppet shows and street plays.  Developmental Projects: ---------------------- Literacy improvement, adult education, primary health care, eradication of social evils like `Jogin' system and bonded labor, NRI interest in such projects, profiles of social service organizations, social workers, governmental long-term projects.  History: ------- Various theories on the history of the Telugu language and people, life of a common man in various dynasties, current status of native tribes, British influence on the region, migration patterns.  Literature: ---------- Discussions on classical as well as modern literature may include major literary movements, various literary forms and their relationship to the content, diachronic evolution of the relationship between form and content, influence of world literature and philosophers, folk literature, children's literature, literature in various dialects, translations from other languages, poets, playwrights, novelists, story tellers and such.  Scientific Literature: --------------------- Teaching science in Telugu, scientific vocabulary in Telugu, reviews of science books in Telugu, taking science to rural children.  Software: -------- Good features of a transliteration scheme, various schemes, typesetting in  LaTeX, what-you-see-is-what-you-get software based on transliteration, special spell-checking problems in Telugu, optical character recognition, merits of existing packages, ftp sites for transliterated texts.  Teaching Telugu: --------------- Challenges in teaching Telugu to the second generation (born and settled outside of Andhra Pradesh) - especially that outside of India, designing textbooks, dictionaries and other learning tools for them.  The above is only a small sample of possible topics. It is hoped that the proposed newsgroup will generate discussion on many more such topics.  Moderation Policy:  The moderation will be primarily for the purpose of eliminating the cross-postings. The moderation will be done by auto-moderation tools (custom-built computer programs), with human intervention kept to the minimum level required to keep said programs operating satisfactorily. The tools will be utilized to auto-moderate posts to the forum by rejecting cross-posts.  Posts will not be checked for their contents !!!  We feel that such restrictions are needed, considering the large number of irrelevant postings that are flooding SCIT in its current form. While we believe in freedom of expression, practice it to the fullest, and encourage it in others, we think the restriction placed is within reason. It may be noted that *NO* restriction is proposed on language use, on topics allowed, or content, and that we have deliberately refrained from human moderation, to eliminate all possible subjectivity in moderation. Our only aim is to create a newsgroup that allows the fullest freedom to discuss all issues as specified in the original charter of SCIT , but removes material that are of no interest (which is generally the case with crossposts).  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.indian.telugu  Moderator: Ratnakar Sonthi <[email protected]> Moderator: Suresh Kolichala <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  Ratnakar Sonthi -- hardware maintainer Suresh Kolichala -- software maintainer * the actual moderation will be done by a program.  END MODERATOR INFO.  soc.culture.indian.telugu Final Voter list  Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                                Ash Nallawalla [email protected]                                           Vamsi Krishna Budige [email protected]                                                 Patrick Hublou [email protected]                                           Murthy Pariti [email protected]                                     Krishna Desikachary [email protected]                                              H. 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