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From [email protected] Thu Jan 18 18:21:11 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Shimpei Yamashita) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan,fj.life.in-japan Subject: RFD: soc.culture.japan.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 18 Jan 1996 23:21:02 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 178 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.japan.moderated Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8142 news.groups:183941 soc.culture.japan:128376 sci.lang.japan:31641 fj.life.in-japan:7577                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)              moderated group soc.culture.japan.moderated  This is a formal Request For Discussion for the creation of a moderated group soc.culture.japan.moderated. This is not a Call For Votes. Do not vote now. Procedural details are at the end of this document.  Newsgroups Line: soc.culture.japan.moderated	Moderated discussion of Japanese culture. (Moderated)  RATIONALE: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan (scj) presently receives over 200 posts per day. Many of these posts are off-topic, and many more are crossposted flame wars that bring no fruitful discussions and distract the readership as a whole from the threads that do invite good discussion. Newsreaders with good killfile mechanisms can reduce the noise to some extent; however, the speed at which new irrelevant threads are created in recent days can exhaust even the most prolific killfile writers.  To help solve this problem, we propose the creation of a new newsgroup soc.culture.japan.moderated (scjm). Note that this is not an attempt to moderate scj; scj will remain active and unmoderated after the creation of scjm.  Because of the high traffic expected in the group, a computer program will moderate most of the traffic in scjm. The program will reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan and subject all new posters to human approval; we expect that these measures alone will reduce noise significantly. The program may reject forward to the moderators those articles that fall under certain criteria they determine (see MODERATION POLICY). Those wishing to carry on a cross-discussion with other newsgroups are still welcome to do so in soc.culture.japan.   CHARTER: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan.moderated is for discussion of Japanese culture.  Appropriate topics include, but are not limited to:  Living and traveling in Japan; Japanese politics, history, religion, or current events; and Japanese entertainment (such as anime, manga, or pop music).  Note: A frequent source of noise in soc.culture.japan is Japan's involvement in World War II and its consequences. This topic is within the scope of scjm, and posts on this topic are welcome; however, posters are encouraged to keep their posts rational and informative. In addition, moderators will reserve the right to ask the posters to post summaries of their opinions on a certain thread, and then cut off the thread for some length of time (on order of two weeks or so).  Inappropriate topics include:  Topics not involving Japan.  Topics involving ethnic Japanese people that have no direct connection to Japan or Japanese culture. (For example, Lance Ito being Japanese American does not make the OJ Simpson trial an appropriate topic.)  Commercial, wanted, forsale, or personal ads. Presently ads contribute significantly to the noise in soc.culture.japan. Most of these ads have other, more relevant newsgroups such as misc.marketplace.* and alt.personals, and therefore should not be tolerated even in scj, much less in scjm. We do recognize, however, the utility of posting ads for jobs pertaining to Japan, and will make an exception for a weekly digest of job ads submitted by the readership and compiled by volunteers.  All crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. This exception is made to prevent the scjm readership from becoming isolated from the scj readers who elect to stay in the unmoderated forum. Note that such crossposts are subject to the same moderation standards as all other posts to scjm, but anyone whose posts are rejected can repost them in scj alone and continue discussion.  Flamebaits, or posts designed specifically to elicit angry responses. We recognize that the distinction between flamebaits and harsh posts is a subjective one. The moderators will use their best judgment to decide whether a flamebait will generate enough noise to warrant being rejected.  Moderation Policy:  Most of the moderation will be done by a computer software. The functions of the software will be to: 1) reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. (It will have to    make an exception for the FAQ, which will be crossposted to    soc.culture.japan, news.answers and soc.answers.) 2) apply filters defined by the moderators to the posts to see if they    fall under certain categories (defined below). If so, the posts are    forwarded to the moderators for review. 3) check the poster name against a list of people who have already posted    to groups (and approved by the moderators). If the name is on the list    and it did not match the filters, the submission is posted automatically.    Submissions by new posters are reviewed by human moderators for    approval; this is done to reduce the number of trollers and also to    give a chance for everyone interested in scjm to become familiar with the    moderation process. (For the latter purpose, a copy of the scj.* FAQ    and a scjm FAQ outlining the moderation policy will be mailed to all    new posters.)  If a post is marked for human approval, it is forwarded to the moderation team for review. We plan to reduce turnaround time by having the moderators log in to a server and approve articles deposited on that server as their schedules allow. The server will also keep a log of each moderators' activities, and post a summary periodically to allow the readership to ensure that the moderators are acting in a fair manner.  If the moderators agree that a certain topic has degenerated to the point where further discussion on scjm may be detrimental to the mission of the group, then a filter will be installed on the computer program to allow human moderation of the thread; in extreme cases, the moderators may even elect to reject the thread automatically. Similarly, if a poster repeatedly commits abuse or acts contrary to the charter, his name may be blacklisted so that all of his posts are subject to review. In extreme cases, the moderators may ban the poster altogether for a limited time not exceeding two months. All such actions by the moderators must appear in the periodical report mentioned in the previous paragraph. In particular, the list of blacklisted and banned individuals must be available.  There should be at least five moderators at any given time; it should go below that number only if the moderation team feels that no qualified individual has contacted them to volunteer. The team is responsible for picking replacements for any moderators who decide to leave the team.  Mike Fester <[email protected]> has tentatively agreed to write the moderation program. Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]> has tentatively agreed to provide a server for the program.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.japan.moderated  Moderator: Mike Fester <[email protected]> Moderator: Akira Ijuin <[email protected]> Moderator: Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]>  At least two more to be named.  END MODERATOR INFO.  PROCEDURE:  This RFD follows the recommendations in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion", both of which are posted regularly to news.announce.newusers and are available at http://www.uvv.org/uvv/.  The discussion period began when this RFD appeared in news.groups and will continue for at least 21 days (starting from when this proposal is first posted to news.announce.newgroups).  Discussion should take place in the news.groups newsgroup.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been cross-posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan, fj.life.in-japan  - Proponent: Mike Fester <[email protected]> Proponent: Akira Ijuin <[email protected]> Proponent: Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]>  --   Shimpei Yamashita       WWW Curator, Stanford Symphony Orchestra    From [email protected] Tue Mar 26 16:03:15 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Shimpei Yamashita) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan,fj.life.in-japan Subject: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.japan.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 26 Mar 1996 21:03:09 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 180 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.japan.moderated Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8455 news.groups:196844 soc.culture.japan:139321 sci.lang.japan:33897 fj.life.in-japan:8485                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)              moderated group soc.culture.japan.moderated  This is a the second formal Request For Discussion for the creation of a moderated group soc.culture.japan.moderated. This is not a Call For Votes. Do not vote now. Procedural details are at the end of this document.  Changes from the previous RFD: No changes (aside from a few change in wordings). No CFV was submitted for the previous RFD because we could not find a computer on which to run the moderator bot before the RFD expired. A volunteer has since gracefully stepped forward and offered us use of his machine.  Newsgroups Line: soc.culture.japan.moderated	Moderated discussion of Japanese culture. (Moderated)  RATIONALE: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan (scj) presently receives over 200 posts per day. Many of these posts are off-topic, and many more are crossposted flame wars that bring no fruitful discussions and distract the readership as a whole from the threads that do invite good discussion. Newsreaders with good killfile mechanisms can reduce the noise to some extent; however, the speed at which new irrelevant threads are created in recent days can exhaust even the most prolific killfile writers.  To help solve this problem, we propose the creation of a new newsgroup soc.culture.japan.moderated (scjm). Note that this is not an attempt to moderate scj; scj will remain active and unmoderated after the creation of scjm.  Because of the high traffic expected in the group, a computer program will moderate most of the traffic in scjm. The program will reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan and subject all new posters to human approval; we expect that these measures alone will reduce noise significantly. The program may reject forward to the moderators those articles that fall under certain criteria they determine (see MODERATION POLICY). Those wishing to carry on a cross-discussion with other newsgroups are still welcome to do so in soc.culture.japan.   CHARTER: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan.moderated is for discussion of Japanese culture.  Appropriate topics include, but are not limited to:  Living and traveling in Japan; Japanese politics, history, religion, or current events; and Japanese entertainment (such as anime, manga, or pop music).  Note: A frequent source of noise in soc.culture.japan is Japan's involvement in World War II and its consequences. This topic is within the scope of scjm, and posts on this topic are welcome; however, posters are encouraged to keep their posts rational and informative. In addition, moderators will reserve the right to ask the posters to post summaries of their opinions on a certain thread, and then cut off the thread for some length of time (on order of two weeks or so).  Inappropriate topics include:  Topics not involving Japan.  Topics involving ethnic Japanese people that have no direct connection to Japan or Japanese culture. (For example, Lance Ito being Japanese American does not make the OJ Simpson trial an appropriate topic.)  Commercial, wanted, forsale, or personal ads. Presently ads contribute significantly to the noise in soc.culture.japan. Most of these ads have other, more relevant newsgroups such as misc.marketplace.* and alt.personals, and therefore should not be tolerated even in scj, much less in scjm. We do recognize, however, the utility of posting ads for jobs pertaining to Japan, and will make an exception for a weekly digest of job ads submitted by the readership and compiled by volunteers.  All crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. This exception is made to prevent the scjm readership from becoming isolated from the scj readers who elect to stay in the unmoderated forum. Note that such crossposts are subject to the same moderation standards as all other posts to scjm, but anyone whose posts are rejected can repost them in scj alone and continue discussion.  Flamebaits, or posts designed specifically to elicit angry responses. We recognize that the distinction between flamebaits and harsh posts is a subjective one. The moderators will use their best judgment to decide whether a flamebait will generate enough noise to warrant being rejected.  Moderation Policy:  Most of the moderation will be done by a computer software. The functions of the software will be to: 1) reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. (It will have to    make an exception for the FAQ, which will be crossposted to    soc.culture.japan, news.answers and soc.answers.) 2) apply filters defined by the moderators to the posts to see if they    fall under certain categories (defined below). If so, the posts are    forwarded to the moderators for review. 3) check the poster name against a list of people who have already posted    to groups (and approved by the moderators). If the name is on the list    and it did not match the filters, the submission is posted automatically.    Submissions by new posters are reviewed by human moderators for    approval; this is done to reduce the number of trollers and also to    give a chance for everyone interested in scjm to become familiar with the    moderation process. (For the latter purpose, a copy of the scj.* FAQ    and a scjm FAQ outlining the moderation policy will be mailed to all    new posters.)  If a post is marked for human approval, it is forwarded to the moderation team for review. We plan to reduce turnaround time by having the moderators log in to a server and approve articles deposited on that server as their schedules allow. The server will also keep a log of each moderators' activities, and post a summary periodically to allow the readership to ensure that the moderators are acting in a fair manner.  If the moderators agree that a certain topic has degenerated to the point where further discussion on scjm may be detrimental to the mission of the group, then a filter will be installed on the computer program to allow human moderation of the thread; in extreme cases, the moderators may even elect to reject the thread automatically. Similarly, if a poster repeatedly commits abuse or acts contrary to the charter, his name may be placed in a filter so that all of his posts are subject to human review. In extreme cases, the moderators may ban the poster altogether for a limited time not exceeding two months. All such actions by the moderators must appear in the periodical report mentioned in the previous paragraph. In particular, the list of monitored and banned individuals must be available.  There should be at least five moderators at any given time; it should go below that number only if the moderation team feels that no qualified individual has contacted them to volunteer. The team is responsible for picking replacements for any moderators who decide to leave the team.  Mike Fester <[email protected]> has tentatively agreed to write the moderation program. Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]> has tentatively agreed to provide a server for the program.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.japan.moderated  Moderator: Mike Fester <[email protected]> Moderator: Akira Ijuin <[email protected]> Moderator: Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]>  At least two more to be named  END MODERATOR INFO.  PROCEDURE:  This RFD follows the recommendations in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion", both of which are posted regularly to news.announce.newusers and are available at http://www.uvv.org/uvv/.  The discussion period began when this RFD appeared in news.groups and will continue for at least 21 days (starting from when this proposal is first posted to news.announce.newgroups).  Discussion should take place in the news.groups newsgroup.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been cross-posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.japan,sci.lang.japan, fj.life.in-japan  - Proponent: Mike Fester <[email protected]> Proponent: Akira Ijuin <[email protected]> Proponent: Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Wed May 15 18:46:37 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,fj.life.in-japan,sci.lang.japan,soc.culture.japan Subject: CFV: soc.culture.japan.moderated moderated Followup-To: poster Date: 15 May 1996 22:46:39 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 200 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jun 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.japan.moderated Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8682 news.groups:206558 fj.life.in-japan:9059 sci.lang.japan:35156 soc.culture.japan:147616                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)              moderated group soc.culture.japan.moderated  Newsgroups line: soc.culture.japan.moderated	Anything Japanese. (Moderated)  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]> Proponent: Mike Fester <[email protected]> Proponent: Akira Ijuin <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan (scj) presently receives over 200 posts per day. Many of these posts are off-topic, and many more are crossposted flame wars that bring no fruitful discussions and distract the readership as a whole from the threads that do invite good discussion. Newsreaders with good killfile mechanisms can reduce the noise to some extent; however, the speed at which new irrelevant threads are created in recent days can exhaust even the most prolific killfile writers.  To help solve this problem, we propose the creation of a new newsgroup soc.culture.japan.moderated (scjm). Note that this is not an attempt to moderate scj; scj will remain active and unmoderated after the creation of scjm.  Because of the high traffic expected in the group, a computer program will moderate most of the traffic in scjm. The program will reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan and subject all new posters to human approval; we expect that these measures alone will reduce noise significantly. The program may reject forward to the moderators those articles that fall under certain criteria they determine (see MODERATION POLICY). Those wishing to carry on a cross-discussion with other newsgroups are still welcome to do so in soc.culture.japan.  CHARTER: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan.moderated is for discussion of Japanese culture.  Appropriate topics include, but are not limited to:  Living and traveling in Japan; Japanese politics, history, religion, or current events; and Japanese entertainment (such as anime, manga, or pop music).  Note: A frequent source of noise in soc.culture.japan is Japan's involvement in World War II and its consequences. This topic is within the scope of scjm, and posts on this topic are welcome; however, posters are encouraged to keep their posts rational and informative. In addition, moderators will reserve the right to ask the posters to post summaries of their opinions on a certain thread, and then cut off the thread for some length of time (on order of two weeks or so).  Inappropriate topics include:  Topics not involving Japan.  Topics involving ethnic Japanese people that have no direct connection to Japan or Japanese culture. (For example, Lance Ito being Japanese American does not make the OJ Simpson trial an appropriate topic.)  Commercial, wanted, forsale, or personal ads. Presently ads contribute significantly to the noise in soc.culture.japan. Most of these ads have other, more relevant newsgroups such as misc.marketplace.* and alt.personals, and therefore should not be tolerated even in scj, much less in scjm. We do recognize, however, the utility of posting ads for jobs pertaining to Japan, and will make an exception for a weekly digest of job ads submitted by the readership and compiled by volunteers.  All crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. This exception is made to prevent the scjm readership from becoming isolated from the scj readers who elect to stay in the unmoderated forum. Note that such crossposts are subject to the same moderation standards as all other posts to scjm, but anyone whose posts are rejected can repost them in scj alone and continue discussion.  Flamebaits, or posts designed specifically to elicit angry responses. We recognize that the distinction between flamebaits and harsh posts is a subjective one. The moderators will use their best judgment to decide whether a flamebait will generate enough noise to warrant being rejected.  Moderation Policy:  Most of the moderation will be done by a computer software. The functions of the software will be to: 1) reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. (It will have to    make an exception for the FAQ, which will be crossposted to    soc.culture.japan, news.answers and soc.answers.) 2) apply filters defined by the moderators to the posts to see if they    fall under certain categories (defined below). If so, the posts are    forwarded to the moderators for review. 3) check the poster name against a list of people who have already posted    to groups (and approved by the moderators). If the name is on the list    and it did not match the filters, the submission is posted automatically.    Submissions by new posters are reviewed by human moderators for    approval; this is done to reduce the number of trollers and also to    give a chance for everyone interested in scjm to become familiar with the    moderation process. (For the latter purpose, a copy of the scj.* FAQ    and a scjm FAQ outlining the moderation policy will be mailed to all    new posters.)  If a post is marked for human approval, it is forwarded to the moderation team for review. We plan to reduce turnaround time by having the moderators log in to a server and approve articles deposited on that server as their schedules allow. The server will also keep a log of each moderators' activities, and post a summary periodically to allow the readership to ensure that the moderators are acting in a fair manner.  If the moderators agree that a certain topic has degenerated to the point where further discussion on scjm may be detrimental to the mission of the group, then a filter will be installed on the computer program to allow human moderation of the thread; in extreme cases, the moderators may even elect to reject the thread automatically. Similarly, if a poster repeatedly commits abuse or acts contrary to the charter, his name may be placed in a filter so that all of his posts are subject to human review. In extreme cases, the moderators may ban the poster altogether for a limited time not exceeding two months. All such actions by the moderators must appear in the periodical report mentioned in the previous paragraph. In particular, the list of monitored and banned individuals must be available.  There should be at least five moderators at any given time; it should go below that number only if the moderation team feels that no qualified individual has contacted them to volunteer. The team is responsible for picking replacements for any moderators who decide to leave the team.  Russ Allbery <[email protected]> has graciously volunteered to provide a server from which to perform the moderation duties.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.japan.moderated  Moderator: "Shimpei Yamashita" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Mike Fester" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Akira Ijuin" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Chuck Douglas" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Jeff Friedl" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Scott Reynolds" <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  HOW TO VOTE:  You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:       [email protected]  Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:       I vote YES on soc.culture.japan.moderated      I vote NO on soc.culture.japan.moderated  You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count.  NAMES ARE REQUIRED.  If your mail software does not indicate your name, include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).       Voter Name:  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, please ask the votetaker. --  Jan Isley <[email protected]>           |  Running UseVote 3. votes to: <[email protected]>  |  Powered by FreeBSD  From [email protected] Mon May 27 23:03:59 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,fj.life.in-japan,sci.lang.japan,soc.culture.japan Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.japan.moderated moderated Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 28 May 1996 03:03:51 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 200 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jun 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.japan.moderated Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8739 news.groups:208260 fj.life.in-japan:9196 sci.lang.japan:35479 soc.culture.japan:149448                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)              moderated group soc.culture.japan.moderated  Newsgroups line: soc.culture.japan.moderated	Anything Japanese. (Moderated)  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]> Proponent: Mike Fester <[email protected]> Proponent: Akira Ijuin <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan (scj) presently receives over 200 posts per day. Many of these posts are off-topic, and many more are crossposted flame wars that bring no fruitful discussions and distract the readership as a whole from the threads that do invite good discussion. Newsreaders with good killfile mechanisms can reduce the noise to some extent; however, the speed at which new irrelevant threads are created in recent days can exhaust even the most prolific killfile writers.  To help solve this problem, we propose the creation of a new newsgroup soc.culture.japan.moderated (scjm). Note that this is not an attempt to moderate scj; scj will remain active and unmoderated after the creation of scjm.  Because of the high traffic expected in the group, a computer program will moderate most of the traffic in scjm. The program will reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan and subject all new posters to human approval; we expect that these measures alone will reduce noise significantly. The program may reject forward to the moderators those articles that fall under certain criteria they determine (see MODERATION POLICY). Those wishing to carry on a cross-discussion with other newsgroups are still welcome to do so in soc.culture.japan.  CHARTER: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan.moderated is for discussion of Japanese culture.  Appropriate topics include, but are not limited to:  Living and traveling in Japan; Japanese politics, history, religion, or current events; and Japanese entertainment (such as anime, manga, or pop music).  Note: A frequent source of noise in soc.culture.japan is Japan's involvement in World War II and its consequences. This topic is within the scope of scjm, and posts on this topic are welcome; however, posters are encouraged to keep their posts rational and informative. In addition, moderators will reserve the right to ask the posters to post summaries of their opinions on a certain thread, and then cut off the thread for some length of time (on order of two weeks or so).  Inappropriate topics include:  Topics not involving Japan.  Topics involving ethnic Japanese people that have no direct connection to Japan or Japanese culture. (For example, Lance Ito being Japanese American does not make the OJ Simpson trial an appropriate topic.)  Commercial, wanted, forsale, or personal ads. Presently ads contribute significantly to the noise in soc.culture.japan. Most of these ads have other, more relevant newsgroups such as misc.marketplace.* and alt.personals, and therefore should not be tolerated even in scj, much less in scjm. We do recognize, however, the utility of posting ads for jobs pertaining to Japan, and will make an exception for a weekly digest of job ads submitted by the readership and compiled by volunteers.  All crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. This exception is made to prevent the scjm readership from becoming isolated from the scj readers who elect to stay in the unmoderated forum. Note that such crossposts are subject to the same moderation standards as all other posts to scjm, but anyone whose posts are rejected can repost them in scj alone and continue discussion.  Flamebaits, or posts designed specifically to elicit angry responses. We recognize that the distinction between flamebaits and harsh posts is a subjective one. The moderators will use their best judgment to decide whether a flamebait will generate enough noise to warrant being rejected.  Moderation Policy:  Most of the moderation will be done by a computer software. The functions of the software will be to: 1) reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. (It will have to    make an exception for the FAQ, which will be crossposted to    soc.culture.japan, news.answers and soc.answers.) 2) apply filters defined by the moderators to the posts to see if they    fall under certain categories (defined below). If so, the posts are    forwarded to the moderators for review. 3) check the poster name against a list of people who have already posted    to groups (and approved by the moderators). If the name is on the list    and it did not match the filters, the submission is posted automatically.    Submissions by new posters are reviewed by human moderators for    approval; this is done to reduce the number of trollers and also to    give a chance for everyone interested in scjm to become familiar with the    moderation process. (For the latter purpose, a copy of the scj.* FAQ    and a scjm FAQ outlining the moderation policy will be mailed to all    new posters.)  If a post is marked for human approval, it is forwarded to the moderation team for review. We plan to reduce turnaround time by having the moderators log in to a server and approve articles deposited on that server as their schedules allow. The server will also keep a log of each moderators' activities, and post a summary periodically to allow the readership to ensure that the moderators are acting in a fair manner.  If the moderators agree that a certain topic has degenerated to the point where further discussion on scjm may be detrimental to the mission of the group, then a filter will be installed on the computer program to allow human moderation of the thread; in extreme cases, the moderators may even elect to reject the thread automatically. Similarly, if a poster repeatedly commits abuse or acts contrary to the charter, his name may be placed in a filter so that all of his posts are subject to human review. In extreme cases, the moderators may ban the poster altogether for a limited time not exceeding two months. All such actions by the moderators must appear in the periodical report mentioned in the previous paragraph. In particular, the list of monitored and banned individuals must be available.  There should be at least five moderators at any given time; it should go below that number only if the moderation team feels that no qualified individual has contacted them to volunteer. The team is responsible for picking replacements for any moderators who decide to leave the team.  Russ Allbery <[email protected]> has graciously volunteered to provide a server from which to perform the moderation duties.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.japan.moderated  Moderator: "Shimpei Yamashita" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Mike Fester" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Akira Ijuin" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Chuck Douglas" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Jeff Friedl" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Scott Reynolds" <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  HOW TO VOTE:  You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:       [email protected]  Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:       I vote YES on soc.culture.japan.moderated      I vote NO on soc.culture.japan.moderated  You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count.  NAMES ARE REQUIRED.  If your mail software does not indicate your name, include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).       Voter Name:  IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, please ask the votetaker. --  Jan Isley <[email protected]>           |  Running UseVote 3. votes to: <[email protected]>  |  Powered by FreeBSD  From [email protected] Thu Jun 13 20:31:36 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jan Isley <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,fj.life.in-japan,sci.lang.japan,soc.culture.japan Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.japan.moderated moderated passes 200:26 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 13 Jun 1996 20:32:08 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 427 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.japan.moderated Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8827 news.groups:211532 fj.life.in-japan:9397 sci.lang.japan:35800 soc.culture.japan:152487                                  RESULT       moderated group soc.culture.japan.moderated passes 200:26  UseVote 3.0 Vote Count - (c) 1993,94 Ron Dippold  soc.culture.japan.moderated results - 226 valid votes   Yes  No  | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group ---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------  200   26 | Yes  Yes |  Yes | soc.culture.japan.moderated  10 invalid votes  A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.  Newsgroups line: soc.culture.japan.moderated	Anything Japanese. (Moderated)  Votes closed on:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Shimpei Yamashita <[email protected]> Proponent: Mike Fester <[email protected]> Proponent: Akira Ijuin <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jan Isley <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan (scj) presently receives over 200 posts per day. Many of these posts are off-topic, and many more are crossposted flame wars that bring no fruitful discussions and distract the readership as a whole from the threads that do invite good discussion. Newsreaders with good killfile mechanisms can reduce the noise to some extent; however, the speed at which new irrelevant threads are created in recent days can exhaust even the most prolific killfile writers.  To help solve this problem, we propose the creation of a new newsgroup soc.culture.japan.moderated (scjm). Note that this is not an attempt to moderate scj; scj will remain active and unmoderated after the creation of scjm.  Because of the high traffic expected in the group, a computer program will moderate most of the traffic in scjm. The program will reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan and subject all new posters to human approval; we expect that these measures alone will reduce noise significantly. The program may reject forward to the moderators those articles that fall under certain criteria they determine (see MODERATION POLICY). Those wishing to carry on a cross-discussion with other newsgroups are still welcome to do so in soc.culture.japan.  CHARTER: soc.culture.japan.moderated  soc.culture.japan.moderated is for discussion of Japanese culture.  Appropriate topics include, but are not limited to:  Living and traveling in Japan; Japanese politics, history, religion, or current events; and Japanese entertainment (such as anime, manga, or pop music).  Note: A frequent source of noise in soc.culture.japan is Japan's involvement in World War II and its consequences. This topic is within the scope of scjm, and posts on this topic are welcome; however, posters are encouraged to keep their posts rational and informative. In addition, moderators will reserve the right to ask the posters to post summaries of their opinions on a certain thread, and then cut off the thread for some length of time (on order of two weeks or so).  Inappropriate topics include:  Topics not involving Japan.  Topics involving ethnic Japanese people that have no direct connection to Japan or Japanese culture. (For example, Lance Ito being Japanese American does not make the OJ Simpson trial an appropriate topic.)  Commercial, wanted, forsale, or personal ads. Presently ads contribute significantly to the noise in soc.culture.japan. Most of these ads have other, more relevant newsgroups such as misc.marketplace.* and alt.personals, and therefore should not be tolerated even in scj, much less in scjm. We do recognize, however, the utility of posting ads for jobs pertaining to Japan, and will make an exception for a weekly digest of job ads submitted by the readership and compiled by volunteers.  All crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. This exception is made to prevent the scjm readership from becoming isolated from the scj readers who elect to stay in the unmoderated forum. Note that such crossposts are subject to the same moderation standards as all other posts to scjm, but anyone whose posts are rejected can repost them in scj alone and continue discussion.  Flamebaits, or posts designed specifically to elicit angry responses. We recognize that the distinction between flamebaits and harsh posts is a subjective one. The moderators will use their best judgment to decide whether a flamebait will generate enough noise to warrant being rejected.  Moderation Policy:  Most of the moderation will be done by a computer software. The functions of the software will be to: 1) reject all crossposts except to soc.culture.japan. (It will have to    make an exception for the FAQ, which will be crossposted to    soc.culture.japan, news.answers and soc.answers.) 2) apply filters defined by the moderators to the posts to see if they    fall under certain categories (defined below). If so, the posts are    forwarded to the moderators for review. 3) check the poster name against a list of people who have already posted    to groups (and approved by the moderators). If the name is on the list    and it did not match the filters, the submission is posted automatically.    Submissions by new posters are reviewed by human moderators for    approval; this is done to reduce the number of trollers and also to    give a chance for everyone interested in scjm to become familiar with the    moderation process. (For the latter purpose, a copy of the scj.* FAQ    and a scjm FAQ outlining the moderation policy will be mailed to all    new posters.)  If a post is marked for human approval, it is forwarded to the moderation team for review. We plan to reduce turnaround time by having the moderators log in to a server and approve articles deposited on that server as their schedules allow. The server will also keep a log of each moderators' activities, and post a summary periodically to allow the readership to ensure that the moderators are acting in a fair manner.  If the moderators agree that a certain topic has degenerated to the point where further discussion on scjm may be detrimental to the mission of the group, then a filter will be installed on the computer program to allow human moderation of the thread; in extreme cases, the moderators may even elect to reject the thread automatically. Similarly, if a poster repeatedly commits abuse or acts contrary to the charter, his name may be placed in a filter so that all of his posts are subject to human review. In extreme cases, the moderators may ban the poster altogether for a limited time not exceeding two months. All such actions by the moderators must appear in the periodical report mentioned in the previous paragraph. In particular, the list of monitored and banned individuals must be available.  There should be at least five moderators at any given time; it should go below that number only if the moderation team feels that no qualified individual has contacted them to volunteer. The team is responsible for picking replacements for any moderators who decide to leave the team.  Russ Allbery <[email protected]> has graciously volunteered to provide a server from which to perform the moderation duties.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.japan.moderated  Moderator: "Shimpei Yamashita" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Mike Fester" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Akira Ijuin" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Chuck Douglas" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Jeff Friedl" <[email protected]> Moderator: "Scott Reynolds" <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  soc.culture.japan.moderated Final Voter list  Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                       Patrick Farry [email protected]                                          Margaret Hender [email protected]                                            Peter Kenne [email protected]                                                 Jim Breen [email protected]                                         Pete Kaub [email protected]                                         Sergio M. 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Oguocha [email protected]                                          Ken Warkentyne [email protected]                                             Tak Fukuman [email protected]                                           DeVictor King Mason [email protected]                                                      Lee Callet [email protected]                                              Jean W. Williams [email protected]                                                       Ed Hall [email protected]                                                  Philip Brown [email protected]                                                           Dave [email protected]                                                 R.L. Creal [email protected]                                         Uwe Hirayama [email protected]                                                      Don Kirkman [email protected]                                                     Bill Franke [email protected]                                        Shailendra Musale [email protected]                                                  Carol White [email protected]                                                  Kevin Sullivan [email protected]                                                     Eric Boccas [email protected]                                                  Seth Friedman [email protected]                                                        Gururaj Rao [email protected]                                                Jim (Bud) Weisser [email protected]                                                         Joel Roth [email protected]                                                         K. 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Wise [email protected]                                                Karen Shimamoto [email protected]                                                    Ken Miyamoto [email protected]                                  EMMANUEL ROUSSIN [email protected]                                               M. Brendan Van Horn [email protected]                                                 Charles Eicher [email protected]                                                    Nancy Conner [email protected]                                                   Ken Andrade [email protected]                                             JOLANE VAN GORP [email protected]                                                    Shag [email protected]                                     Abby Franquemont-Guillory [email protected]                                                Bill Stanford [email protected]                                          H.L. van Kooten [email protected]                                                 Helge Nareid [email protected]                                                    April Glenday [email protected]                                                     R. S. Camm [email protected]                                           Chuck Douglas [email protected]                                                 Kelvin Tan [email protected]                                                Jaime C. 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Jones [email protected]                                               Alex Fox [email protected]                                                  andy [email protected]                                           Jason Ullett  Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                                   Dwight Brown [email protected]                                                Stanton Smith [email protected]                                              Martin H. 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LoPresti [email protected]                                                Jeff Goslin [email protected]                                         Kenton Green [email protected]                                                 Andrew Fabbro [email protected]                                                  Stacy Ferguson [email protected]                                          Risto Widenius [email protected]                                Kenji Okamoto [email protected]                                       Mustafa Soysal [email protected]                                                       Shrisha Rao [email protected]                                                Michiel Wijers [email protected]                                                      Ales Casar  Invalid ballots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]     ! No name given [email protected]     ! 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