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From [email protected]e Fri Feb 24 19:11:04 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Johan Berteloot) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,alt.genealogy,soc.genealogy.misc Subject: RFD: soc.genealogy.benelux Followup-To: news.groups Date: 24 Feb 1995 18:49:56 -0500 Organization: Central Computing Services Lines: 128 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6335 news.groups:136563 soc.genealogy.computing:2284 alt.genealogy:16292 soc.genealogy.misc:4161                          REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)  List Name:     soc.genealogy.benelux Status:        not moderated Proponent:     Johan Berteloot ([email protected]) Distribution:  world Global:        Y Gateways:      to a mailing list, [email protected] RFD posted to: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,                alt.genealogy Cc to:         [email protected]   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOTE:     This is not a Call for Votes. Do not try to vote now.           Followups set to news.groups, please honour. See the           "Procedure" section, below, for details. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  Charter:    soc.genealogy.benelux is for genealogy and family history   discussion among people researching ancestors, family members, or   others who have a genealogical connection to any people in any   part of the Benelux countries (Belgium, The Netherlands and   Luxembourg).    The group is open to anyone with an interest in genealogy in any   of the populations in or from this area, including, but not   limited to: people who live, lived, or may have lived there;   emigrants; immigrants; colonists; residents of former colonies;   and their descendants.    The scope of the group reflects language, history, migrations,   and the realities of researching public records and genealogical   data archives, and includes questions of local customs and   history, or of regional or national history which affected the   lives of these people and which are difficult to research in the   present. Posts are expected to be mostly in English, but may be   written in any language. Dutch, French and German are spoken in   different parts of the region, and posts in those languages are   anticipated and will be welcome. Posters who wish a translation   of a post into another language may ask in the group for help.    The focus of the group is on people, researched for genealogical   purposes.  Postings on topics unrelated to genealogy are not welcome.  Rationale:    The soc.genealogy.* (s.g.*) hierarchy of newsgroups includes   groups, which are intended to provide a focus for genealogy   research that centers around a country or region of origin, a   language, or an ethnic group. The German, French and Jewish   groups which were part of the original reorganization have been   quite successful, and there has been considerable interest shown   in adding another group to cover the Benelux countries.    Many Usenet genealogists are researching family or ancestors from   some part of the Benelux countries. There is much in common between   genealogy of these countries, especially regarding public records and   research archives. Because of the commonality of research   interests it seems reasonable to conduct discussions in one   group.  Mailing List and Gateways:    The group will be gated to a mailing list for genealogists who do   not have access to Usenet. The gate will be two-way, so that all   messages posted on either side will appear on both sides.  Archive:    The content of the postings shall be archived in the future and   made researchable via FTP-mail or other such means.  Supporters of this Proposal    This proposal is being supported by the following people.   If you need to contact any of us personally, we are:    Proponent:     [email protected] (Johan Berteloot)    In Belgium:    [email protected] (Johan Berteloot)   In the Netherlands: [email protected] (Marc Gabriels)   In USA: [email protected] (Wally Janssen)   In Canada: [email protected] (Martin Timmerman)   In South Africa: [email protected] (Wilhelm AG Nel)  Distribution of RFD:    The complete official messages as RFD, CFV and vote results will   be posted to these required or affected newsgroups:        news.announce.newsgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing    and to interested newsgroups and mailing lists:        alt.genealogy,[email protected]    A short "pointer" message will be send to other groups whose   readers may be interested.        soc.genealogy.misc, soc.genealogy.jewish,        soc.genealogy.german, soc.genealogy.methods,        soc.genealogy.french, soc.history.moderated        soc.culture.netherlands, soc.culture.belgium,        soc.culture.french, soc.culture.german, nlnet.misc  Procedure - Discussion - Votings - Followup    Interested parties are encouraged to comment on this proposal in   news.groups.  Please post your comments *only* in news.groups.   After 21 days, if there appears to be a strong consensus in favor of   this proposal as it is written here, a CFV will be posted, which   will initiate the voting process; otherwise, discussion will   continue until a more refined proposal can be prepared.    Again, please do *not* vote now.  The voting process has not begun,   and your votes will be DISCARDED if you attempt to do so.    For more information on the newsgroup creation process, see the   documents entitled "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and   "Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion" by David Lawrence   <[email protected]>, posted regularly to news.groups,   news.announce.newusers, and news.answers, and available for ftp at   rtfm.mit.edu in /pub/usenet/news.groups. --  Johan Berteloot                     [email protected] UFSIA CCS Antwerp                   [email protected] PC- & Network Division              [email protected] Novell Supervisor                   +32 3 220 48 25  From [email protected] Mon May  8 18:45:40 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Michael Handler) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,alt.genealogy Subject: CFV: soc.genealogy.benelux Followup-To: poster Date: 8 May 1995 12:54:36 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 156 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 30 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Michael Handler Voting Alias) Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6791 news.groups:148335 soc.genealogy.computing:4496 alt.genealogy:22193                            FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                    unmoderated group soc.genealogy.benelux  Newsgroups line: soc.genealogy.benelux	Genealogy in Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 May 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Michael Handler <[email protected]>. For questions about the proposed group contact Johan Berteloot <[email protected]>.  This Call For Votes (CFV) has been crossposted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, soc.genealogy.computing, alt.genealogy  After this Call For Votes (CFV) appears in , it will be sent to the following mailing lists: * [email protected]   Subscribe at [email protected] * [email protected]   Subscribe at [email protected]  OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV  The only official sources of this CFV are: * The copy which was crossposted to  * Any copies which were sent to mailing lists by the votetaker (and *only*   the votetaker) * One received from the votetaker's automated mailserver  To obtain a copy of the CFV from the votetaker's mailserver: * Send email to <[email protected]> with    Subject: send genealogy cfv    This is an automated function, so it does not matter what   your message body contains, as long as the Subject: line is exactly as   described above.  IMPORTANT: If you give anyone copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified. Distributing pre-filled in ballots or modified copies of this CFV is considered voting fraud. If this occurs on a large scale or causes voting problems or irregularities, the vote may be canceled.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  CHARTER    soc.genealogy.benelux is for genealogy and family history   discussion among people researching ancestors, family members, or   others who have a genealogical connection to any people in any   part of the Benelux countries (Belgium, The Netherlands and   Luxembourg).    The group is open to anyone with an interest in genealogy in any   of the populations in or from this area, including, but not   limited to: people who live, lived, or may have lived there;   emigrants; immigrants; colonists; residents of former colonies;   and their descendants.    The scope of the group reflects language, history, migrations,   and the realities of researching public records and genealogical   data archives, and includes questions of local customs and   history, or of regional or national history which affected the   lives of these people and which are difficult to research in the   present. Posts are expected to be mostly in English, but may be   written in any language. Dutch, French and German are spoken in   different parts of the region, and posts in those languages are   anticipated and will be welcome. Posters who wish a translation   of a post into another language may ask in the group for help.    The focus of the group is on people, researched for genealogical   purposes.  Postings on topics unrelated to genealogy are not welcome.  RATIONALE    The soc.genealogy.* (s.g.*) hierarchy of newsgroups includes   groups, which are intended to provide a focus for genealogy   research that centers around a country or region of origin, a   language, or an ethnic group. The German, French and Jewish   groups which were part of the original reorganization have been   quite successful, and there has been considerable interest shown   in adding another group to cover the Benelux countries.    Many Usenet genealogists are researching family or ancestors from   some part of the Benelux countries. There is much in common between   genealogy of these countries, especially regarding public records and   research archives. Because of the commonality of research   interests it seems reasonable to conduct discussions in one   group.    The mailing list created only last February has shown substantial interest   from researchers around the world. With the broad access of researchers   to Usenet this potential can only grow and encourage researchers to   exchange information with common interest in the same area. The low   countries (Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg) have been very   prosperous and its inhabitants have descendants everywhere now.  MAILING LISTS AND GATEWAYS    The group will be gated to a mailing list for genealogists who do   not have access to Usenet. The gate will be two-way, so that all   messages posted on either side will appear on both sides.    The name of the mailing list is [email protected]  HOW TO VOTE  One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Attempts at ballot box stuffing or vote fraud will not be treated lightly.  *** IMPORTANT: _Addresses_ and _votes_ of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. UVV voting on Usenet is not done by secret ballot. ***  Send email to: <[email protected]> Just replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain ONE (and only ONE) of the following statements:        I vote YES on soc.genealogy.benelux       I vote NO on soc.genealogy.benelux       I vote ABSTAIN on soc.genealogy.benelux       I CANCEL my vote on soc.genealogy.benelux  If you vote ABSTAIN, your vote will be registered and will be shown in the final results posting, but it will not affect the outcome of the vote. It is intended as a form of symbolic protest, nothing more.  If you CANCEL your vote, all records of your vote will be purged from the active results file, and your name and address will not be listed in the final results posting.  ABSTAIN and CANCEL are nearly the same thing -- the only difference is that with ABSTAIN, your name and address are still listed in the final listing.  If you later change your mind you may vote again. Only your last valid vote will count and will be published in the final results posting.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledgement by mail -- if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  After the final results are posted to , there will then be a five-day period during which the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. --                             Michael Handler <[email protected]>                            Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV)                            Running UseVote 3.0  From [email protected] Thu May 25 18:46:49 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Michael Handler) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,alt.genealogy Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.genealogy.benelux Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 23 May 1995 16:04:13 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 161 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 30 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Michael Handler Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6894 news.groups:150958 soc.genealogy.computing:4808 alt.genealogy:23447                            LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                    unmoderated group soc.genealogy.benelux  Newsgroups line: soc.genealogy.benelux	Genealogy in Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 May 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Michael Handler <[email protected]>. For questions about the proposed group contact Johan Berteloot <[email protected]>.  This Call For Votes (CFV) has been crossposted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, soc.genealogy.computing, alt.genealogy  After this Call For Votes (CFV) appears in , it will be sent to the following mailing lists: * [email protected]   Subscribe at [email protected] * [email protected]   Subscribe at [email protected]  OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV  The only official sources of this CFV are: * The copy which was crossposted to  * Any copies which were sent to mailing lists by the votetaker (and *only*   the votetaker) * One received from the votetaker's automated mailserver  To obtain a copy of the CFV from the votetaker's mailserver: * Send email to <[email protected]> with    Subject: send genealogy cfv    This is an automated function, so it does not matter what   your message body contains, as long as the Subject: line is exactly as   described above.  IMPORTANT: If you give anyone copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified. Distributing pre-filled in ballots or modified copies of this CFV is considered voting fraud. If this occurs on a large scale or causes voting problems or irregularities, the vote may be canceled.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  CHARTER    soc.genealogy.benelux is for genealogy and family history   discussion among people researching ancestors, family members, or   others who have a genealogical connection to any people in any   part of the Benelux countries (Belgium, The Netherlands and   Luxembourg).    The group is open to anyone with an interest in genealogy in any   of the populations in or from this area, including, but not   limited to: people who live, lived, or may have lived there;   emigrants; immigrants; colonists; residents of former colonies;   and their descendants.    The scope of the group reflects language, history, migrations,   and the realities of researching public records and genealogical   data archives, and includes questions of local customs and   history, or of regional or national history which affected the   lives of these people and which are difficult to research in the   present. Posts are expected to be mostly in English, but may be   written in any language. Dutch, French and German are spoken in   different parts of the region, and posts in those languages are   anticipated and will be welcome. Posters who wish a translation   of a post into another language may ask in the group for help.    The focus of the group is on people, researched for genealogical   purposes.  Postings on topics unrelated to genealogy are not welcome.  RATIONALE    The soc.genealogy.* (s.g.*) hierarchy of newsgroups includes   groups, which are intended to provide a focus for genealogy   research that centers around a country or region of origin, a   language, or an ethnic group. The German, French and Jewish   groups which were part of the original reorganization have been   quite successful, and there has been considerable interest shown   in adding another group to cover the Benelux countries.    Many Usenet genealogists are researching family or ancestors from   some part of the Benelux countries. There is much in common between   genealogy of these countries, especially regarding public records and   research archives. Because of the commonality of research   interests it seems reasonable to conduct discussions in one   group.    The mailing list created only last February has shown substantial interest   from researchers around the world. With the broad access of researchers   to Usenet this potential can only grow and encourage researchers to   exchange information with common interest in the same area. The low   countries (Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg) have been very   prosperous and its inhabitants have descendants everywhere now.  MAILING LISTS AND GATEWAYS    The group will be gated to a mailing list for genealogists who do   not have access to Usenet. The gate will be two-way, so that all   messages posted on either side will appear on both sides.    The name of the mailing list is [email protected]  HOW TO VOTE  One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Attempts at ballot box stuffing or vote fraud will not be treated lightly.  *** IMPORTANT: _Addresses_ and _votes_ of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. UVV voting on Usenet is not done by secret ballot. ***  Send email to: <[email protected]> Just replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain ONE (and only ONE) of the following statements:        I vote YES on soc.genealogy.benelux       I vote NO on soc.genealogy.benelux       I vote ABSTAIN on soc.genealogy.benelux       I CANCEL my vote on soc.genealogy.benelux  If you vote ABSTAIN, your vote will be registered and will be shown in the final results posting, but it will not affect the outcome of the vote. It is intended as a form of symbolic protest, nothing more.  If you CANCEL your vote, all records of your vote will be purged from the active results file, and your name and address will not be listed in the final results posting.  ABSTAIN and CANCEL are nearly the same thing -- the only difference is that with ABSTAIN, your name and address are still listed in the final listing.  If you later change your mind you may vote again. Only your last valid vote will count and will be published in the final results posting.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledgement by mail -- if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  After the final results are posted to , there will then be a five-day period during which the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed.  soc.genealogy.benelux Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                                      AnnRoyal [email protected]                                         Deirdre W Wheeler --                            Michael Handler <[email protected]>                            Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV)                            Running UseVote 3.0