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From [email protected] Mon May  5 01:13:59 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,soc.genealogy.misc,soc.genealogy.uk+ireland,soc.genealogy.german,alt.genealogy Subject: RFD: soc.genealogy.surnames reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: soc.genealogy.surnames-reorg Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 08:14:43 GMT Lines: 446 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:381                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)               moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.usa             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.canada             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.german             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.britain             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland              moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.misc moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.global (renames soc.genealogy.surnames)  Newsgroups line: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain	Surnames queries - Great Britain. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.canada	Surnames queries - Canada. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.german	Surnames queries - German speaking countries. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.global	Surnames queries central database. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland	Surnames queries - Ireland and Northern Ireland. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.misc	Surnames - regions not covered elsewhere. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.usa	Surnames queries - USA. (Moderated)  RATIONALE: all groups  Soc.genealogy.surnames is a moderated newsgroup which provides a place for genealogists to ask for information about ancestors worldwide. The moderation only applies to the subject lines, and since late 1996 has been handled by an automoderation routine which is working well.  (Soc.genealogy will be shortened to s.g. in some of this RFD)  Soc.genealogy.surnames is heavily used, as are some of the regional soc.genealogy groups.  We need to plan now for a reorganization of the groups where newsgroup evolution has reached the stage of having a lot of messages which complain about how other people are using the group.  As surnames queries contribute to the growth of every regional group, and as many of the complaints ask people to use s.g.surnames for those messages, this plan for a reorganization of s.g.surnames should benefit the two largest groups now and can be extended to other regional groups as they continue to grow.  We expect searching and reading to be improved noticeably for non-USA readers by having subgroups for posts relevant to several regions with the heaviest traffic.  S.g.uk+ireland and s.g.german have reached an overload state of 150 or more posts per day and their readers are now asking for splits of their groups in order to make reading more manageable.  In both groups, people are suggesting a surnames group for that region only.  The number of posts in both groups which could properly be moved from the regional groups to s.g.surnames is significant, but finding a way to persuade people to move the posts is difficult, in great part because the current s.g.surnames is dominated by posts from Americans and about American locations.  If the posters could be persuaded to move surnames queries to s.g.surnames, s.g.surnames will then be so big as to need immediate subdividing.  Two options for creating regional surnames groups are: s.g.REGION.surnames and s.g.surnames.REGION.  A split of a regional group "X" into s.g.X.misc, s.g.X.surnames, etc.  runs into a conflict with the s.g.surnames name and group and will likely cause confusion. Separate moderation schemes and moderators for each regional surnames group is an added burden to be avoided.   Since the automoderation of s.g.surnames can be modified to make it simple to have posts sent to an appropriate s.g.surnames.X group, using the same moderator address and the same moderation rules, it seems more logical to subdivide s.g.surnames at this time.  This proposal allows for adding future groups in an orderly manner as need arises.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  A great majority of current posts to s.g.surnames now include USA locations.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include Canadian locations.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some German location and a large number of posts in s.g.german are messages about surnames which should better be placed here.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some British or Irish location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about surnames which should be placed in a separate surnames group.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  An RFD for a split of s.g.uk+ireland is now being prepared with this division and these names.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some British or Irish location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about surnames which should be placed in a separate surnames group.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  An RFD for a split of s.g.uk+ireland is now being prepared with this division and these names.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  This group will receive messages for any area of the world which does not have its own group.  As the number of messages for any region grows large in either s.g.surnames.misc or in one of the other regional s.g.* groups, requests for additional subdivisons can be expected.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.global (renames soc.genealogy.surnames)  This group will receive all the surnames posts, and will be the only place where "SURNAME; anywhere; anytime" posts are posted.  For the purposes of searching an archive and for those who wish to download the entire set of surnames posts, this will be the group of choice. The automoderator at this group will scan the Subject lines of all incoming posts and, if the subject line is in the proper format, will cross-post the message to s.g.surnames.global and to each of the other s.g.surnames groups mentioned in the subject line, and to no other soc.genealogy group, regardless of the Newsgroups: line.  Subject lines in s.g.surnames have a set format of three fields separated by semi-colons:  NAME; Place(s); Date(s).  The places are taken from a list used by s.g.surnames and by other online databases. Sometimes the Place(s) field includes a migration route such as NFK,ENG > MA,USA.  Although cross-posting is not a good idea for many groups, in this case the cross-posting will be relevant to the groups affected, and we expect several benefits.  At the moment many messages with migration routes (such as SURNAME; DEU > DEV,ENG > VA,USA; 1800) are cross-posted by the poster to s.g.surnames and to regional groups (s.g.german and s.g.uk+ireland in the example).  With one automoderation address, the posting will be done all at once with consistency, and posters will know that their messages will go to all the right groups, and will show up only once in each group and it will assure that the message does not go any non-relevant groups. Cross-posting to other relevant groups outside the soc.genealogy.* family of newsgroups is allowed.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.usa will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the United States of America or its territories or possessions.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.canada will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Canada.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.german      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.german will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the German speaking countries whose non-surnames messages are relevant to soc.genealogy.german.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.german but to post those to soc.genealogy.surnames.german instead.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.britain will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Great Britain, which includes England, Scotland, Wales, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands and other associated Islands. Messages about Ireland (both Northern and Southern) will be posted to a different newsgroup.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.britain but to post the British queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.britain instead.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the Republic of Ireland or within Northern Ireland.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.ireland, but to post the Irish queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland instead.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.misc will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within any country which is not included in one of the regional soc.genealogy. surnames groups.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.global      Moderated, archived, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.global will receive one copy of genealogical queries which appear in any of the regional surnames groups or in soc.genealogy.surnames.misc, and will also receive messages which have been formatted as "NAME; anywhere; anytime".  This group will be archived and searchable at one or more web locations.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: all groups  Surnames queries are used to make contacts among researchers who are studying the same families.  Posting of surname queries in magazines and newsletters has been a popular method of genealogical inquiry for decades, and on-line queries are posted to most genealogy newsgroups, although soc.genealogy.surnames is the group which was designed for such messages.  Many queries are for people who are known to have migrated from one country to another.  Those messages are useful for readers from any area through which the person migrated, and can be effectively posted to more than one regional surnames newsgroup.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  The moderation email address is  [email protected]  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]>  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END MODERATOR INFO.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:    news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,   soc.genealogy.surnames,soc.genealogy.computing,   soc.genealogy.uk+ireland,soc.genealogy.german,   soc.genealogy.misc,alt.genealogy  A pointer message has been sent to the following newsgroups:    soc.genealogy.methods,soc.genealogy.medieval   soc.genealogy.african,soc.genealogy.australia+nz,   soc.genealogy.benelux,soc.genealogy.french,   soc.genealogy.hispanic,soc.genealogy.jewish,   soc.genealogy.nordic,soc.genealogy.slavic,   soc.genealogy.west-indies,soc.genealogy.italian (depending on     the successful passage of its CFV)  and the following mailing list:    [email protected]           Subscribe via: [email protected] - Proponent: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Proponent: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Proponent: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Mentor:    John Pimentel <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Mon Jun  9 16:30:12 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jeremy Billones <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.genealogy,soc.genealogy.computing,soc.genealogy.german,soc.genealogy.misc,soc.genealogy.uk+ireland,soc.genealogy.surnames Subject: CFV: soc.genealogy.surnames reorganization Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 1 Jul 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: soc.genealogy.surnames-reorg Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 23:16:43 GMT Lines: 897 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:490                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.britain             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.canada             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.german moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.global (renames soc.genealogy.surnames)             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland              moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.misc               moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Newsgroups lines: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain	Surnames queries - Great Britain. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.canada	Surnames queries - Canada. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.german	Surnames queries - German speaking countries. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.global	Surnames queries central database. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland	Surnames queries - Ireland & Northern Ireland. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.misc	Surnames - regions not covered elsewhere. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.usa	Surnames queries - USA. (Moderated)  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Jun 1997.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Proponent: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Proponent: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Mentor: John Pimentel <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jeremy Billones <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: all groups  Soc.genealogy.surnames is a moderated newsgroup which provides a place for genealogists to ask for information about ancestors worldwide. The moderation only applies to the subject lines, and since late 1996 has been handled by an automoderation routine which is working well.  (Soc.genealogy will be shortened to s.g. in some of this Rationale)  Soc.genealogy.surnames is heavily used, as are some of the regional soc.genealogy groups.  We need to plan now for a reorganization of the groups where newsgroup evolution has reached the stage of having a lot of messages which complain about how other people are using the group.  As surnames queries contribute to the growth of every regional group, and as many of the complaints ask people to use s.g.surnames for those messages, this plan for a reorganization of s.g.surnames should benefit the two largest groups now and can be extended to other regional groups as they continue to grow.  We expect searching and reading to be improved noticeably for non-USA readers by having subgroups for posts relevant to several regions with the heaviest traffic.  S.g.uk+ireland and s.g.german have reached an overload state of 150 or more posts per day and their readers are now asking for splits of their groups in order to make reading more manageable.  In both groups, people are suggesting a surnames group for that region only.  The number of posts in both groups which could properly be moved from the regional groups to s.g.surnames is significant, but finding a way to persuade people to move the posts is difficult, in great part because the current s.g.surnames is dominated by posts from Americans and about American locations.  If the posters could be persuaded to move surnames queries to s.g.surnames, s.g.surnames will then be so big as to need immediate subdividing.  Two options for creating regional surnames groups are: s.g.REGION.surnames and s.g.surnames.REGION.  A split of a regional group "X" into s.g.X.misc, s.g.X.surnames, etc.  runs into a conflict with the s.g.surnames name and group and will likely cause confusion. Separate moderation schemes and moderators for each regional surnames group is an added burden to be avoided.   Since the automoderation of s.g.surnames can be modified to make it simple to have posts sent to an appropriate s.g.surnames.X group, using the same moderator address and the same moderation rules, it seems more logical to subdivide s.g.surnames at this time.  This proposal allows for adding future groups in an orderly manner as need arises.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some British location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about British surnames.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about both Britain and Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include Canadian locations.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some German location and a large number of posts in s.g.german are messages about surnames which should better be placed here.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  (renames soc.genealogy.surnames)  This group will receive all the surnames posts, and will be the only place where "SURNAME; anywhere; anytime" posts are posted.  For the purposes of searching an archive and for those who wish to download the entire set of surnames posts, this will be the group of choice. The automoderator at this group will scan the Subject lines of all incoming posts and, if the subject line is in the proper format, will cross-post the message to s.g.surnames.global and to each of the other s.g.surnames groups mentioned in the subject line, and to no other soc.genealogy group, regardless of the Newsgroups: line.  Subject lines in s.g.surnames have a set format of three fields separated by semi-colons:  NAME; Place(s); Date(s).  The places are taken from a list used by s.g.surnames and by other online databases. Sometimes the Place(s) field includes a migration route such as NFK,ENG > MA,USA.  Although cross-posting is not a good idea for many groups, in this case the cross-posting will be relevant to the groups affected, and we expect several benefits.  At the moment many messages with migration routes (such as SURNAME; DEU > DEV,ENG > VA,USA; 1800) are cross-posted by the poster to s.g.surnames and to regional groups (s.g.german and s.g.uk+ireland in the example).  With one automoderation address, the posting will be done all at once with consistency, and posters will know that their messages will go to all the right groups, and will show up only once in each group and it will assure that the message does not go any non-relevant groups. Cross-posting to other relevant groups outside the soc.genealogy.* family of newsgroups is allowed.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some Irish location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about Irish surnames.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about both Britain and Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  This group will receive messages for any area of the world which does not have its own group.  As the number of messages for any region grows large in either s.g.surnames.misc or in one of the other regional s.g.* groups, requests for additional subdivisons can be expected.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  A great majority of current posts to s.g.surnames now include USA locations.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.britain will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Great Britain, which includes England, Scotland, Wales, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands and other associated Islands. Messages about Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland will be posted to a different newsgroup.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.britain but to post the British queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.britain instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.canada will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Canada.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.german      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.german will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the German speaking countries whose non-surnames messages are relevant to soc.genealogy.german.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.german but to post those to soc.genealogy.surnames.german instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.global      Moderated, archived, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.global will receive one copy of genealogical queries which appear in any of the regional surnames groups or in soc.genealogy.surnames.misc, and will also receive messages which have been formatted as "NAME; anywhere; anytime".  This group will be archived and searchable at one or more web locations.  Surnames queries are used to make contacts among researchers who are studying the same families.  Posting of surname queries in magazines and newsletters has been a popular method of genealogical inquiry for decades, and on-line queries are posted to most genealogy newsgroups, although soc.genealogy.surnames is the group which was designed for such messages.  Many queries are for people who are known to have migrated from one country to another.  Those messages are useful for readers from any area through which the person migrated, and can be effectively posted to more than one regional surnames newsgroup, but will be most effectively archived for searching in this global group.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the Republic of Ireland or within Northern Ireland.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.ireland, but to post the Irish queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.misc will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within any country which is not included in one of the regional soc.genealogy. surnames groups.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.usa will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the United States of America or its territories or possessions.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  HOW TO VOTE:  Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  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Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.  Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  DISTRIBUTION:  Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:  soc.genealogy.african, soc.genealogy.australia+nz, soc.genealogy.benelux, soc.genealogy.french, soc.genealogy.hispanic, soc.genealogy.italian, soc.genealogy.jewish, soc.genealogy.methods, soc.genealogy.medieval soc.genealogy.nordic, soc.genealogy.slavic, soc.genealogy.west-indies  This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Jun  4 1997). PQ datestamp: 970324  From [email protected] Sat Jun 21 05:15:09 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jeremy Billones <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.genealogy,soc.genealogy.computing,soc.genealogy.german,soc.genealogy.misc,soc.genealogy.surnames,soc.genealogy.uk+ireland Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.genealogy.surnames reorganization Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 1 Jul 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: soc.genealogy.surnames-reorg Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:07:54 GMT Lines: 897 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:533                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.britain             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.canada             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.german moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.global (renames soc.genealogy.surnames)             moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland              moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.misc               moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Newsgroups lines: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain	Surnames queries - Great Britain. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.canada	Surnames queries - Canada. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.german	Surnames queries - German speaking countries. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.global	Surnames queries central database. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland	Surnames queries - Ireland & Northern Ireland. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.misc	Surnames - regions not covered elsewhere. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.usa	Surnames queries - USA. (Moderated)  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Jun 1997.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Proponent: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Proponent: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Mentor: John Pimentel <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jeremy Billones <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: all groups  Soc.genealogy.surnames is a moderated newsgroup which provides a place for genealogists to ask for information about ancestors worldwide. The moderation only applies to the subject lines, and since late 1996 has been handled by an automoderation routine which is working well.  (Soc.genealogy will be shortened to s.g. in some of this Rationale)  Soc.genealogy.surnames is heavily used, as are some of the regional soc.genealogy groups.  We need to plan now for a reorganization of the groups where newsgroup evolution has reached the stage of having a lot of messages which complain about how other people are using the group.  As surnames queries contribute to the growth of every regional group, and as many of the complaints ask people to use s.g.surnames for those messages, this plan for a reorganization of s.g.surnames should benefit the two largest groups now and can be extended to other regional groups as they continue to grow.  We expect searching and reading to be improved noticeably for non-USA readers by having subgroups for posts relevant to several regions with the heaviest traffic.  S.g.uk+ireland and s.g.german have reached an overload state of 150 or more posts per day and their readers are now asking for splits of their groups in order to make reading more manageable.  In both groups, people are suggesting a surnames group for that region only.  The number of posts in both groups which could properly be moved from the regional groups to s.g.surnames is significant, but finding a way to persuade people to move the posts is difficult, in great part because the current s.g.surnames is dominated by posts from Americans and about American locations.  If the posters could be persuaded to move surnames queries to s.g.surnames, s.g.surnames will then be so big as to need immediate subdividing.  Two options for creating regional surnames groups are: s.g.REGION.surnames and s.g.surnames.REGION.  A split of a regional group "X" into s.g.X.misc, s.g.X.surnames, etc.  runs into a conflict with the s.g.surnames name and group and will likely cause confusion. Separate moderation schemes and moderators for each regional surnames group is an added burden to be avoided.   Since the automoderation of s.g.surnames can be modified to make it simple to have posts sent to an appropriate s.g.surnames.X group, using the same moderator address and the same moderation rules, it seems more logical to subdivide s.g.surnames at this time.  This proposal allows for adding future groups in an orderly manner as need arises.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some British location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about British surnames.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about both Britain and Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include Canadian locations.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some German location and a large number of posts in s.g.german are messages about surnames which should better be placed here.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  (renames soc.genealogy.surnames)  This group will receive all the surnames posts, and will be the only place where "SURNAME; anywhere; anytime" posts are posted.  For the purposes of searching an archive and for those who wish to download the entire set of surnames posts, this will be the group of choice. The automoderator at this group will scan the Subject lines of all incoming posts and, if the subject line is in the proper format, will cross-post the message to s.g.surnames.global and to each of the other s.g.surnames groups mentioned in the subject line, and to no other soc.genealogy group, regardless of the Newsgroups: line.  Subject lines in s.g.surnames have a set format of three fields separated by semi-colons:  NAME; Place(s); Date(s).  The places are taken from a list used by s.g.surnames and by other online databases. Sometimes the Place(s) field includes a migration route such as NFK,ENG > MA,USA.  Although cross-posting is not a good idea for many groups, in this case the cross-posting will be relevant to the groups affected, and we expect several benefits.  At the moment many messages with migration routes (such as SURNAME; DEU > DEV,ENG > VA,USA; 1800) are cross-posted by the poster to s.g.surnames and to regional groups (s.g.german and s.g.uk+ireland in the example).  With one automoderation address, the posting will be done all at once with consistency, and posters will know that their messages will go to all the right groups, and will show up only once in each group and it will assure that the message does not go any non-relevant groups. Cross-posting to other relevant groups outside the soc.genealogy.* family of newsgroups is allowed.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some Irish location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about Irish surnames.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about both Britain and Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  This group will receive messages for any area of the world which does not have its own group.  As the number of messages for any region grows large in either s.g.surnames.misc or in one of the other regional s.g.* groups, requests for additional subdivisons can be expected.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  A great majority of current posts to s.g.surnames now include USA locations.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.britain will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Great Britain, which includes England, Scotland, Wales, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands and other associated Islands. Messages about Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland will be posted to a different newsgroup.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.britain but to post the British queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.britain instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.canada will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Canada.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.german      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.german will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the German speaking countries whose non-surnames messages are relevant to soc.genealogy.german.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.german but to post those to soc.genealogy.surnames.german instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.global      Moderated, archived, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.global will receive one copy of genealogical queries which appear in any of the regional surnames groups or in soc.genealogy.surnames.misc, and will also receive messages which have been formatted as "NAME; anywhere; anytime".  This group will be archived and searchable at one or more web locations.  Surnames queries are used to make contacts among researchers who are studying the same families.  Posting of surname queries in magazines and newsletters has been a popular method of genealogical inquiry for decades, and on-line queries are posted to most genealogy newsgroups, although soc.genealogy.surnames is the group which was designed for such messages.  Many queries are for people who are known to have migrated from one country to another.  Those messages are useful for readers from any area through which the person migrated, and can be effectively posted to more than one regional surnames newsgroup, but will be most effectively archived for searching in this global group.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the Republic of Ireland or within Northern Ireland.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.ireland, but to post the Irish queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.misc will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within any country which is not included in one of the regional soc.genealogy. surnames groups.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.usa will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the United States of America or its territories or possessions.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  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PQ datestamp: 970324  From [email protected] Wed Jul  9 10:00:43 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jeremy Billones <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.genealogy,soc.genealogy.computing,soc.genealogy.german,soc.genealogy.misc,soc.genealogy.surnames,soc.genealogy.uk+ireland Subject: RESULT: soc.genealogy.surnames reorganization all groups pass Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: soc.genealogy.surnames-reorg Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:53:13 GMT Lines: 1315 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:581                                  RESULT      moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.britain passes 362:41      moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.canada passes 339:40      moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.german passes 342:36 moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.global (renames soc.genealogy.surnames) passes 354:47      moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland passes 352:44       moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.misc passes 354:47        moderated group soc.genealogy.surnames.usa passes 357:37  soc.genealogy.surnames reorg results - 430 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------  362   41 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  339   40 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  342   36 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.genealogy.surnames.german  354   47 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.genealogy.surnames.global (renames soc.gene alogy.surnames)  352   44 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  354   47 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  357   37 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.genealogy.surnames.usa   17 invalid votes  Newsgroups lines: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain	Surnames queries - Great Britain. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.canada	Surnames queries - Canada. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.german	Surnames queries - German speaking countries. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.global	Surnames queries central database. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland	Surnames queries - Ireland & Northern Ireland. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.misc	Surnames - regions not covered elsewhere. (Moderated) soc.genealogy.surnames.usa	Surnames queries - USA. (Moderated)  The voting period ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Jun 1997.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Proponent: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Proponent: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Mentor: John Pimentel <[email protected]> Votetaker: Jeremy Billones <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: all groups  Soc.genealogy.surnames is a moderated newsgroup which provides a place for genealogists to ask for information about ancestors worldwide. The moderation only applies to the subject lines, and since late 1996 has been handled by an automoderation routine which is working well.  (Soc.genealogy will be shortened to s.g. in some of this Rationale)  Soc.genealogy.surnames is heavily used, as are some of the regional soc.genealogy groups.  We need to plan now for a reorganization of the groups where newsgroup evolution has reached the stage of having a lot of messages which complain about how other people are using the group.  As surnames queries contribute to the growth of every regional group, and as many of the complaints ask people to use s.g.surnames for those messages, this plan for a reorganization of s.g.surnames should benefit the two largest groups now and can be extended to other regional groups as they continue to grow.  We expect searching and reading to be improved noticeably for non-USA readers by having subgroups for posts relevant to several regions with the heaviest traffic.  S.g.uk+ireland and s.g.german have reached an overload state of 150 or more posts per day and their readers are now asking for splits of their groups in order to make reading more manageable.  In both groups, people are suggesting a surnames group for that region only.  The number of posts in both groups which could properly be moved from the regional groups to s.g.surnames is significant, but finding a way to persuade people to move the posts is difficult, in great part because the current s.g.surnames is dominated by posts from Americans and about American locations.  If the posters could be persuaded to move surnames queries to s.g.surnames, s.g.surnames will then be so big as to need immediate subdividing.  Two options for creating regional surnames groups are: s.g.REGION.surnames and s.g.surnames.REGION.  A split of a regional group "X" into s.g.X.misc, s.g.X.surnames, etc.  runs into a conflict with the s.g.surnames name and group and will likely cause confusion. Separate moderation schemes and moderators for each regional surnames group is an added burden to be avoided.   Since the automoderation of s.g.surnames can be modified to make it simple to have posts sent to an appropriate s.g.surnames.X group, using the same moderator address and the same moderation rules, it seems more logical to subdivide s.g.surnames at this time.  This proposal allows for adding future groups in an orderly manner as need arises.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some British location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about British surnames.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about both Britain and Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include Canadian locations.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some German location and a large number of posts in s.g.german are messages about surnames which should better be placed here.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  (renames soc.genealogy.surnames)  This group will receive all the surnames posts, and will be the only place where "SURNAME; anywhere; anytime" posts are posted.  For the purposes of searching an archive and for those who wish to download the entire set of surnames posts, this will be the group of choice. The automoderator at this group will scan the Subject lines of all incoming posts and, if the subject line is in the proper format, will cross-post the message to s.g.surnames.global and to each of the other s.g.surnames groups mentioned in the subject line, and to no other soc.genealogy group, regardless of the Newsgroups: line.  Subject lines in s.g.surnames have a set format of three fields separated by semi-colons:  NAME; Place(s); Date(s).  The places are taken from a list used by s.g.surnames and by other online databases. Sometimes the Place(s) field includes a migration route such as NFK,ENG > MA,USA.  Although cross-posting is not a good idea for many groups, in this case the cross-posting will be relevant to the groups affected, and we expect several benefits.  At the moment many messages with migration routes (such as SURNAME; DEU > DEV,ENG > VA,USA; 1800) are cross-posted by the poster to s.g.surnames and to regional groups (s.g.german and s.g.uk+ireland in the example).  With one automoderation address, the posting will be done all at once with consistency, and posters will know that their messages will go to all the right groups, and will show up only once in each group and it will assure that the message does not go any non-relevant groups. Cross-posting to other relevant groups outside the soc.genealogy.* family of newsgroups is allowed.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  A significant number of current posts now in s.g.surnames include some Irish location and a large number of posts in s.g.uk+ireland are messages about Irish surnames.  The discussions among s.g.uk+ireland participants and the numbers of posts now about both Britain and Ireland has convinced us of the advisability of asking to separate Irish posts from British ones at this time.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  This group will receive messages for any area of the world which does not have its own group.  As the number of messages for any region grows large in either s.g.surnames.misc or in one of the other regional s.g.* groups, requests for additional subdivisons can be expected.  RATIONALE: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  A great majority of current posts to s.g.surnames now include USA locations.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.britain will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Great Britain, which includes England, Scotland, Wales, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands and other associated Islands. Messages about Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland will be posted to a different newsgroup.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.britain but to post the British queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.britain instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.canada will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within Canada.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.german      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.german will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the German speaking countries whose non-surnames messages are relevant to soc.genealogy.german.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.german but to post those to soc.genealogy.surnames.german instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.global      Moderated, archived, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.global will receive one copy of genealogical queries which appear in any of the regional surnames groups or in soc.genealogy.surnames.misc, and will also receive messages which have been formatted as "NAME; anywhere; anytime".  This group will be archived and searchable at one or more web locations.  Surnames queries are used to make contacts among researchers who are studying the same families.  Posting of surname queries in magazines and newsletters has been a popular method of genealogical inquiry for decades, and on-line queries are posted to most genealogy newsgroups, although soc.genealogy.surnames is the group which was designed for such messages.  Many queries are for people who are known to have migrated from one country to another.  Those messages are useful for readers from any area through which the person migrated, and can be effectively posted to more than one regional surnames newsgroup, but will be most effectively archived for searching in this global group.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the Republic of Ireland or within Northern Ireland.  Posters are strongly encouraged not to post surnames queries to soc.genealogy.uk+ireland or a future successor group such as soc.genealogy.ireland, but to post the Irish queries to soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland instead.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.misc will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within any country which is not included in one of the regional soc.genealogy. surnames groups.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa      Moderated, and gatewayed to a mailing list.  Soc.genealogy.surnames.usa will receive genealogical queries about people whose residence or migration has included locations within the United States of America or its territories or possessions.  Searching through the many queries, both on-line and in the archives, is much easier when subject lines are formatted uniformly.  All the regional soc.genealogy.surnames groups will continue to use the format developed for subject lines of posts to soc.genealogy.surnames, which requires a subject line with three fields separated by semi-colons: NAME (in caps); Place(s); Date(s)  In order to assure that this format, or any other format which may be later introduced by the moderators, is used for each post, the groups will be moderated.  The automoderation software, already successfully implemented for soc.genealogy.surnames, will moderate all the surnames groups.  It will be modified to receive all queries and to post them only to relevant groups by cross-posting to the groups which are mentioned in the "places" part of the subject line.  Posters will be informed of any changes made by the automoderator to the Newsgroups line of their post.  Messages which do not arrive with the subject line in the prescribed format will be returned to the poster for modification of the subject line.  An explanation of what information is missing and helpful suggestions for revising the subject line will be included with a copy of the original post, and the email address for the human moderator or moderators will be given.  The automoderator will be concerned only with having well-formatted subject lines, with the following exceptions:  1: "Spam" and grossly off-topic messages, even if formatted with a nominally acceptable Subject line, may be rejected.  2: Duplicate messages should not be posted more than once in any 14 day period.  The moderator may amend the automoderator to reject messages posted more frequently.  This will be done by comparing incoming posts with recent messages in the archives of soc.genealogy.surnames.global, as that group will contain a copy of every message posted in any of the s.g.surnames subgroups.  3: Messages may be rejected if they contain an excess of non-plaintext material, including binaries, GEDCOM formatted text and HTML code. An explanation of the rejection will be sent to the poster.  4: Messages with unreplyable return addresses may also be rejected, though a reasonable effort may be made by moderators to determine a correct address so that the poster can be made aware of the problem.  Lists of the standard codes used for places and other information about formulating good queries is available in FAQs and by email or on the web and a human moderator will be available to give help.  Volunteers for all groups are:  Tim Pierce <[email protected]>, moderator-in-chief Bill Mills <[email protected]>, moderator Margaret Olson <[email protected]>, moderator  and any co-moderators or successor moderators that all current moderators agree to.  This group will be moderated by custom automoderation software developed and maintained by Tim Pierce.  The moderation email address of [email protected] will receive posts for all the soc.genealogy.surnames groups and will make a decision, based on the subject line, about where to cross-post the message.  END CHARTER.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  MODERATOR INFO: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Moderator: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Moderator: Bill Mills <[email protected]> Moderator: Margaret Olson <[email protected]> Administrative contact address: [email protected] Article submission address: [email protected]  END MODERATOR INFO.  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.britain  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.canada  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.german  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.global  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.misc  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]  GATEWAYS: soc.genealogy.surnames.usa  Gateway mailing list name: [email protected] Submission address: [email protected] Request address: [email protected]   DISTRIBUTION:  Pointers directing readers to this CFV were posted in these groups:  soc.genealogy.african, soc.genealogy.australia+nz, soc.genealogy.benelux, soc.genealogy.french, soc.genealogy.hispanic, soc.genealogy.italian, soc.genealogy.jewish, soc.genealogy.methods, soc.genealogy.medieval soc.genealogy.nordic, soc.genealogy.slavic, soc.genealogy.west-indies   soc.genealogy.surnames reorg Final Vote Ack                                            soc.genealogy.surnames.usa ---------+                                         soc.genealogy.surnames.misc --------+|                                      soc.genealogy.surnames.ireland -------+||      soc.genealogy.surnames.global (renames soc.genealogy.surnames) ------+|||                                       soc.genealogy.surnames.german -----+||||                                       soc.genealogy.surnames.canada ----+|||||                                      soc.genealogy.surnames.britain ---+||||||                                                                        ||||||| *[email protected]*                                       Bob Kendall YYYYYYY [email protected]                                  Phil Holm YYYYYYY [email protected]                                Anthony Hall YY-YYYY [email protected]                                  O.N. 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