• Your Trusted Usenet Provider
  • Secure, Private, Unlimited

Newsgroups Main » Newsgroups Directory » Education » College

Admissions ( soc.college.admissions )
 
From [email protected] Sun Jan 22 22:52:51 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Kaya Bekiroglu <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.college,misc.education,alt.kids-talk,misc.kids,alt.parents-teens
Subject: RFD: soc.college.admissions
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 22 Jan 1995 20:14:13 -0500
Organization: neu.edu
Lines: 61
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:6214 news.groups:130707 soc.college:35468 misc.education:25496 alt.kids-talk:54175 misc.kids:166239 alt.parents-teens:5655

This RFD is being cross-posted to the following relevant groups:

       news.groups
       soc.college
       misc.education
       alt.kids-talk
       misc.kids
       alt.parents-teens

Request for Discussion (RFD)

Newsgroup     :      soc.college.admissions
Status        :      unmoderated
Distribution  :      world
Summary       :      Information about the college admissions process
Proponent     :      Kaya Bekiroglu <[email protected]>

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) on the creation of
an unmoderated soc.college.admissions newsgroup, and has been
posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation.

Rationale:

       Choosing and applying to colleges is a daunting task.
Financing your college choice is equally tough.  There have been
sporadic queries on misc.education and soc.college about college
admissions, and although many college students and admissions
officers have volunteered their time answering these students'
questions, there exists no dedicated forum on USENET for this
purpose.  As the number of high school students with net access
grows, these posts will no doubt increase. Soc.college.admissions
will provide a means to consolidate this knowledge and so
increase its profile and usefulness.

Charter:

       Soc.college.admissions will be a forum for discussion of
college admissions (both graduate and undergraduate), financial
aid, and the advantages and disadvantages of specific colleges
and universities.  Input from admissions officers and current
college students is especially encouraged. Soc.college.admissions
will serve as a repository for college addresses (email and
postal) deadline information, and tips to make the application
process easier on both the applicant and the admissions office.

FAQ:

       A FAQ list for soc.college.admissions will be created
following the approval of this group.  Its contents will be
determined by the needs of the newsgroup's participants.

Voting:

       If there are no significant revisions to this RFD, a Call
for Votes will be issued shortly after the end of the 21-day
discussion period.

Follow-ups:

       All follow-ups to this RFD should be directed to or cross-
posted to news.groups.

From [email protected] Mon May 29 22:37:07 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Daniel Hartung)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.college,misc.education,alt.kids-talk,alt.parents-teens,alt.education.higher.stu-affairs,alt.folklore.college
Subject: CFV: soc.college.admissions
Followup-To: poster
Date: 28 May 1995 18:50:40 -0400
Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv/
Lines: 88
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 19 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6915 news.groups:151536 soc.college:41191 misc.education:29647 alt.kids-talk:63982 alt.parents-teens:7368 alt.education.higher.stu-affairs:1247 alt.folklore.college:13320

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group soc.college.admissions

Newsgroups lines:
soc.college.admissions	The university admissions process.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Daniel Hartung <[email protected]>  (the
votetaker).  For questions about the proposed groups contact
Kaya Bekiroglu <[email protected]> (the proponent).

RATIONALE

This is the rationale for the proposal as submitted by the proponent.

Choosing and applying to colleges is a daunting task.  There have been
sporadic queries on misc.education and soc.college about college (and
university) admissions, and although many college students and
admissions officers have volunteered their time answering these
students' questions, there exists no dedicated forum on USENET for
this purpose.  As the number of high school students (and parents of
high school students) with net access grows, these posts will no doubt
increase.  Soc.college.admissions will provide a means to consolidate
this knowledge and so increase its profile and usefulness.

CHARTERS

These are the newsgroup charters as submitted by the proponent.

Soc.college.admissions will be a forum for discussion of college
and university admissions processes (both graduate and undergraduate),
the advantages and disadvantages of specific colleges and universities,
and test preparation (including, but certainly not limited to, the
SAT-I, SAT-II, ACT, GRE, TOEFL, and Advanced Placement tests).  In no
way will discussion be limited to American institutions.

Input from admissions officers and current college students is
especially encouraged.  Soc.college.admissions will also serve as a
repository for college addresses (email and postal), deadline
information, and advice to make the application process easier on both
the applicant and the admissions office.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:  [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements (DO NOT QUOTE THE ENTIRE CFV IN YOUR VOTE):
      I vote YES on soc.college.admissions
      I vote NO on soc.college.admissions
      I ABSTAIN on soc.college.admissions
      I CANCEL on soc.college.admissions


OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV

The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups
to which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups and the votetaker.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES

Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic
vote-counting software.  The votetaker will respond to your received vote
with an automated acknowledgement by e-mail - if you do not receive one
within several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure
your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses
and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results
list; this is a public vote.

Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms
are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed directly from
the voter to the votetaker.)

In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard
operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.

Anyone who distributes pre-filled ballots, shortcut instructions, or
modified copies of this CFV commits voting fraud.  If you give anyone
copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified.

When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

From [email protected] Thu Jun  8 17:18:56 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Daniel Hartung)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.college,misc.education,alt.kids-talk,alt.parents-teens,alt.education.higher.stu-affairs,alt.folklore.college
Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.college.admissions
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 8 Jun 1995 17:17:31 -0400
Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv/
Lines: 88
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 19 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7031 news.groups:152921 soc.college:41519 misc.education:30087 alt.kids-talk:64694 alt.parents-teens:7615 alt.education.higher.stu-affairs:1265 alt.folklore.college:13415

                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group soc.college.admissions

Newsgroups lines:
soc.college.admissions	The university admissions process.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Daniel Hartung <[email protected]>  (the
votetaker).  For questions about the proposed groups contact
Kaya Bekiroglu <[email protected]> (the proponent).

RATIONALE

This is the rationale for the proposal as submitted by the proponent.

Choosing and applying to colleges is a daunting task.  There have been
sporadic queries on misc.education and soc.college about college (and
university) admissions, and although many college students and
admissions officers have volunteered their time answering these
students' questions, there exists no dedicated forum on USENET for
this purpose.  As the number of high school students (and parents of
high school students) with net access grows, these posts will no doubt
increase.  Soc.college.admissions will provide a means to consolidate
this knowledge and so increase its profile and usefulness.

CHARTERS

These are the newsgroup charters as submitted by the proponent.

Soc.college.admissions will be a forum for discussion of college
and university admissions processes (both graduate and undergraduate),
the advantages and disadvantages of specific colleges and universities,
and test preparation (including, but certainly not limited to, the
SAT-I, SAT-II, ACT, GRE, TOEFL, and Advanced Placement tests).  In no
way will discussion be limited to American institutions.

Input from admissions officers and current college students is
especially encouraged.  Soc.college.admissions will also serve as a
repository for college addresses (email and postal), deadline
information, and advice to make the application process easier on both
the applicant and the admissions office.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:  [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements (DO NOT QUOTE THE ENTIRE CFV IN YOUR VOTE):
      I vote YES on soc.college.admissions
      I vote NO on soc.college.admissions
      I ABSTAIN on soc.college.admissions
      I CANCEL on soc.college.admissions


OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV

The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups
to which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups and the votetaker.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES

Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic
vote-counting software.  The votetaker will respond to your received vote
with a semi-automated acknowledgement by e-mail - if you do not receive
one within several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure
your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses
and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results
list; this is a public vote.

Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms
are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed directly from
the voter to the votetaker.)

In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard
operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.

Anyone who distributes pre-filled ballots, shortcut instructions, or
modified copies of this CFV commits voting fraud.  If you give anyone
copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified.

When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

From [email protected] Tue Jul 11 13:28:45 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Daniel Hartung)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.college,misc.education,alt.kids-talk,alt.parents-teens,alt.education.higher.stu-affairs,alt.folklore.college
Subject: RESULT: soc.college.admissions passes 145:28
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 10 Jul 1995 18:22:34 -0400
Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv/
Lines: 252
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7113 news.groups:158582 soc.college:42090 misc.education:31224 alt.kids-talk:67222 alt.parents-teens:8005 alt.education.higher.stu-affairs:1301 alt.folklore.college:13717

                               RESULT
        unmoderated group soc.college.admissions passes 145:28

Voting for soc.college.admissions closed 23:59:59 UTC, 18 June 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Daniel Hartung <[email protected]>  (the
votetaker).  For questions about the proposed groups contact
Kaya Bekiroglu <[email protected]> (the proponent).

SUMMARY

            unmoderated group soc.college.admissions passes 145:28

There were 145 YES votes and 28 NO votes, for a total of 173 valid votes.
There were 7 abstains and 2 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups lines:
soc.college.admissions	The university admissions process.


CHARTERS

These are the newsgroup charters as submitted by the proponent.

Soc.college.admissions will be a forum for discussion of college
and university admissions processes (both graduate and undergraduate),
the advantages and disadvantages of specific colleges and universities,
and test preparation (including, but certainly not limited to, the
SAT-I, SAT-II, ACT, GRE, TOEFL, and Advanced Placement tests).  In no
way will discussion be limited to American institutions.

Input from admissions officers and current college students is
especially encouraged.  Soc.college.admissions will also serve as a
repository for college addresses (email and postal), deadline
information, and advice to make the application process easier on both
the applicant and the admissions office.


FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

The following list of addresses is copyright 1995 by Birch Grove
Software.  Use for any purpose other than verifying the vote
for this newsgroup is prohibited.


soc.college.admissions Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[email protected]                                          Aaron R. Priven
[email protected]                                          Adam Bonin
[email protected]                                          Keith Baird
[email protected]                                    Patrick Srail
[email protected]                                                    Ann Rivera
[email protected]                                                  Alan Kors
[email protected]                                             Ananda M. Kar
[email protected]                                        ANIL K. KOCHHAR
[email protected]                                          Jim Arnow
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                          A. Hedges
[email protected]
BASIN::GOMEZ_V"@gusher.pb.utexas.edu                                   V Gomez
[email protected]                                      BICKLEY JAMES H
[email protected]                                          Laura Bivins
[email protected]                                 Bellave Jayaram
[email protected]                                          Bonnie Forman
[email protected]                                 Douglas P. Shannon
[email protected]                                     Aliza R. Panitz
[email protected]                                          Robert W. Burke
[email protected]                                         Ruoyu Wang
[email protected]                                    Mark W. Schumann
[email protected]                             Christopher B. Stone
[email protected]                                        chiahao chang
[email protected]                                           Christopher C Parks
[email protected]                                      Cheryl Goldstein
[email protected]                                 Cheryl Lathrop
[email protected]
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]                                    Ms. Christian Reiten
[email protected]                                          Bob Holloway
[email protected]                                                  Cindy Wang
[email protected]                                 David J. Greenberger
[email protected]                          Darla Bauknecht, Admissions MS 148
[email protected]                                             Daniel DuBois
[email protected]                                       Diana Judith Jine
[email protected]                                         Del Hager
[email protected]                                       Dodge Johnson
[email protected]                                         David Mocko
[email protected]                                                   Donna Martin
[email protected]                                                    Bret Dooley
[email protected]                                                 David Rauh
[email protected]                                            Daniel S Chen
[email protected]                                                     Don Yates
[email protected]                                                Eric Garbos
[email protected]                                                     eklecia
[email protected]                                                         Eli Lehrer
[email protected]                        Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                              Chris Fleek
[email protected]                    Ratthapol Rangkupan - SCPO - 3736988
[email protected]                                                    Gabriela Nass
[email protected]                                                   Robert Gaut
[email protected]
[email protected]                                            Glenn J Keeler
[email protected]                                     Mitchell Golden
[email protected]                                         Glenn R. Kurtzrock
[email protected]                                               Judy Greengrass
[email protected]                                          Harvey Striegler
[email protected]                                           sTeVeN cHeUnG
[email protected]                                Hirisave L. Pratap
[email protected]                                 Heidi Sue Smith, EWU Admissions
[email protected]                             Justin J Cleveland
[email protected]                                  Old Man Kensey
[email protected]                                           Jerry Hiniker
[email protected]                         Zubeneschamali (J.Cidell)
jley@unm.edu                                                        jean m ley
jnr@xserv1.ipp-garching.mpg.de                                        Jim Rome
JOHN.TPR@review.com                                               John Katzman
jonboy@io.org                                                           Jonboy
jsk591@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
jssmith@olivet.edu                                                  Josh Smith
jstuart@utdallas.edu
jwilloug@gate.net                                             Jason Willoughby
jwright@blarg1.blarg.com                                            Jon Wright
katn@longs.att.com
kbekirog@lynx.dac.neu.edu                                       Kaya Bekiroglu
kim@shell.portal.com                                              Kim DeVaughn
klc@dec40.mcc.cc.tx.us                                             Karen Clark
kresse@helios.phy.ohiou.edu                                         Tim Kresse
KSMOTHERS@shadow.stjohns-nm.edu                                  Kirk Smothers
kwattles@sas.upenn.edu                                            Kirk Wattles
l15d@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de                                    Martin Schroeder
LADYO@mitvmc.mit.edu                                          Lisa J. Oliveira
lance@rahul.net                                                  Lance K. Chun
LSEAMANS@MU3.MILLERSV.EDU                                        Lynne Seamans
Mark.Kantrowitz@GLINDA.OZ.CS.CMU.EDU
Michelle.Mader@lerc.nasa.gov                                    Michelle Mader
mikeb@ssd.fsi.com                                                   Mike Bates
Mimi.Tam@Eng.Sun.COM                                                  Mimi Tam
mmayo@ucsd.edu                                                 Matthew W. Mayo
moss@bastille.cchem.berkeley.edu                                 David Maurice
msmith@pluto.njcc.com                                               Mark Smith
mswigart@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us                             Michael R. Swigart
mthues@PrimeNet.Com                                               Matt Thueson
MWHITTINGHAM@ewu.edu                       Michelle Whittingham, (509)359-6582
ndallen@io.org                                                     Nigel Allen
nick@inferno.fc.hp.com                                          Nick Ingegneri
nico0005@utdallas.edu
noelbrk@ix.netcom.com                                           Noel Hendricks
nsweet@fir.fbc.com                                                 Nancy Sweet
opie@fine-print.com                                   Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren
OWEN.TPR@review.com                                                 Owen Davis
PBRADY@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU
pgelber@li.net                                           Philip M. Gelber M.D.
phemant@shakti.ncst.ernet.in                              Hemant Vasant Sawant
phoffman@proper.com                                               Paul Hoffman
pichaya@ratree.psu.ac.th
pimentel@roots.ultranet.com                                      John Pimentel
PUPICH@vms.cis.pitt.edu
pytan@singnet.com.sg                                              Tan Ping Yee
Queensbury@aol.com
quinby@imsa.edu                                                   Brian Quinby
radrayer@panix.com                                              Rebecca Drayer
rb012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu                                    R. M. Bugarin
rmsylte@uci.edu                                                  Ruth M. Sylte
rogbarn@MO.NET                                                    Roger Barnes
ROLIVER@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu                                      RICHARD
rozking@umich.edu                                        Rosalind Mackraz King
rpenner@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca                                    Ross Penner
rshacham@husc.harvard.edu
s639823@aix2.uottawa.ca                               the Bitter Pirate LeSann
sage@is.NYU.EDU
sdsimmons@ucdavis.edu
seng8619@varney.idbsu.edu                                    Sean Sengenberger
shk@qnet.com                                                               shk
snarf@panix.com                                                          snarf
soop@phantom.com                                                        [none]
sreid@unix.cc.emory.edu                                        Sonya Gail Reid
Svnorman@TWICS.COM                                                Scott Norman
techint@winternet.com                            Technical Intelligence-MN-USA
tegtmeie@panix.com                                           John R. Tegtmeier
teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu                             Lani Teshima-Miller
thaneth@ksc.net.th                                         Thaneth Watanakosin
Thomas.Granvold@Eng.Sun.COM                                       Tom Granvold
TJAMISON@UBmail.ubalt.edu
treynard@fast.net                                                 Troy Reynard
twells@netcom.com                                               Tabor J. Wells
uskes@mcl.ucsb.edu                                               Shannon Smith
ycl6@columbia.edu                                                 Yeechang Lee

Voted No
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
chowell@pcug.org.au                                              Collin Howell
crawford@fido.econlab.arizona.edu                            David W. Crawford
cward@Think.COM                                               Christopher Ward
David.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk
djmc100@unix.york.ac.uk                                              Doug Clow
g9426181@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA                                   Craig Burley
garvin+@pitt.edu
gordon@yuki                                                       Gordon Engel
grn@ion.apana.org.au                                           Geoffrey Newman
iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk                                                Ian Jackson
johannes@titan.westfalen.de                                    Johannes Stille
jrm@globalvillag.com                                     John R. MacWilliamson
khan@JTP.CS.NYU.EDU                                               Hasnain Khan
leigh@nbi.com                                                     Leigh Melton
nareid@optsun.riken.go.jp                                         Helge Nareid
nreadwin@mdev.micrognosis.com                                     Neil Readwin
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU                                                Pete Bastien
rew@CrystalData.COM                                               Ryan Waldron
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
Singlis@bcde.demon.co.uk                                         Steven Inglis
smarry@turing.toronto.edu                                         Smarasderagd
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
tgm@netcom.com                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu                                        Tim Pierce
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cbaker@wam.umd.edu                                            C. Douglas Baker
crouchkp@flidh101.delcoelect.com                              Kenneth P Crouch
manderso@spdmail.spd.dsccc.com                                   Mark Anderson
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu                                                  M. Otto


Votes in error
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Matthew_Quinn@together.org
   ! No vote statement in message
sevensen@comnet.com                                              Scott Evensen
   ! No vote statement in message


VOTING TRIVIA:

The first vote was cast by mswigart@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us at 18:01 on 28 May.
The winning vote was cast by kresse@helios.phy.ohiou.edu at 10:05 on 12 June.
The last vote was cast by dejj@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU at 04:12 on 18 June.

All times CST.

 
USENET FACT: Big-8
BIG-8 hierarchies are the 8 traditional top hierarchies of the Usenet. See the following page for more