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From: [email protected] (Andrew Percival)
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Subject: RFD: soc.college.org.aiesec
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                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

This is a formal Request for Discussion on the creation of a new
unmoderated news group   soc.college.org.aiesec 

PROPOSAL

To create a news group for AIESEC, "The International Association of
Students in Business and Economics".  (AIESEC is an acronym of the French
name of the Association).

AIESEC runs training programs, seminars, etc. in over 80 countries.
The idea of a news group came from members in several countries, and
was discussed during the US National Conference in December 1992.
Many AIESECers had not heard of news before, but since the conference
they have learned how to use it and are enjoying it greatly.

AIESEC currently has a mailing list that provides a forum for discussing
issues, sharing ideas, and making information available to others.
A newsgroup would give better world-wide communications for AIESEC,
and also allow others to learn more about an exciting organization.

The proposed name for the group is  soc.college.org.aiesec 
The group will be unmoderated.

PROPOSED CHARTER:
	To provide a forum for AIESEC, "The International Association of
	Students in Business and Economics", to discuss AIESEC issues and
	share ideas world-wide, both within AIESEC and with other people
	who may be interested in its activities.

Assuming a positive discussion period, a formal call for votes (CFV) will be
made in three weeks time.  The CFV will state how you can cast your vote for
or against this proposal; please do not send in any votes before then, but
post your comments on the proposal to news.groups. 


This RFD is a joint proposal from:

  Andrew Percival       <[email protected]  or  [email protected]>
  Officer of Communications
  AIESEC - Queensland University of Technology,  Australia

  Adam Karas  		<[email protected]>
  Director,  National Computer Center,  AIESEC United States (NCC-USAC)
  University of Colorado at Boulder

From [email protected] Wed Oct 27 16:05:23 1993
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From: [email protected] (Mark James)
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Subject: CFV: soc.college.org.aiesec
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                       1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

                Unmoderated group soc.college.org.aiesec

Newsgroups line:
soc.college.org.aiesec	The Int'l Assoc. of Business and Commerce Students.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Nov 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact Mark James <[email protected]>.  For 
questions about the proposed group, contact Andrew Percival 
<[email protected]> or <[email protected]>.

The Call for Votes articles are also being published in AIESEC's
international mailing list, <[email protected]>.


CHARTER (taken from the RFD)
-------

To provide a forum for AIESEC, "The International Association of
Students Interested in Business and Commerce", to discuss AIESEC
issues and share ideas world-wide, both within AIESEC and with other
people who may be interested in its activities.

A newsgroup would give better world-wide communication for AIESEC
and would also allow others to learn more about the association.

The group will be unmoderated.


STANDARD VOTING INFO
--------------------

You should send E-MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to:

      [email protected]

(just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work, assuming your
newsreader software honors "Reply-To" headers).  Your mail message 
should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on soc.college.org.aiesec
or
      I vote NO on soc.college.org.aiesec

You may add a comment, or use other wording, but only a definite, 
unconditional, unambiguous statement for or against the creation of 
soc.college.org.aiesec will count as a vote.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.  You may also send in an "abstain" vote in the same 
manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".  This will cancel
any previous vote, and will not otherwise be counted.

All votes will be acknowledged by E-mail.  If you don't receive an
acknowledgment within a few days of your vote, vote again.  A list of
any acknowledgment messages that bounce back to me is posted in the
second Call for Votes article.  (CFV articles do *not* otherwise
contain mass vote acknowledgments.)  

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted.  Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret 
ballot.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account.  The requirements for group creation
are 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and 2/3 of all votes being YES.
-- 
Mark James  <[email protected]>    *** Opinions, errors etc are mine. ***
Dialogic Corporation, 300 Littleton Road    | "We must believe in free will.
Parsippany NJ 07054, U.S.A.                 |  We have no choice."
+1 201 334 1268 ext 438  Fax +1 201 334 1257|  -- I. B. Singer

From [email protected] Thu Nov 11 10:22:47 1993
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From: [email protected] (Mark James)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.college.org.aiesec
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                       2nd CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

                Unmoderated group soc.college.org.aiesec

Newsgroups line:
soc.college.org.aiesec	The Int'l Assoc. of Business and Commerce Students.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Nov 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact Mark James <[email protected]>.  For 
questions about the proposed group, contact Andrew Percival 
<[email protected]> or <[email protected]>.

The Call for Votes articles are also being published in AIESEC's
international mailing list, <[email protected]>.


CHARTER (taken from the RFD)
-------

To provide a forum for AIESEC, "The International Association of
Students Interested in Business and Commerce", to discuss AIESEC
issues and share ideas world-wide, both within AIESEC and with other
people who may be interested in its activities.

A newsgroup would give better world-wide communication for AIESEC
and would also allow others to learn more about the association.

The group will be unmoderated.


STANDARD VOTING INFO
--------------------

You should send E-MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to:

      [email protected]

(just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work, assuming your
newsreader software honors "Reply-To" headers).  Your mail message 
should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on soc.college.org.aiesec
or
      I vote NO on soc.college.org.aiesec

You may add a comment, or use other wording, but only a definite, 
unconditional, unambiguous statement for or against the creation of 
soc.college.org.aiesec will count as a vote.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.  You may also send in an "abstain" vote in the same 
manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".  This will cancel
any previous vote, and will not otherwise be counted.

All votes will be acknowledged by E-mail.  If you don't receive an
acknowledgment within a few days of your vote, vote again.  A list of
any acknowledgment messages that bounce back to me is posted in the
second Call for Votes article.  (CFV articles do *not* otherwise
contain mass vote acknowledgments.)  

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted.  Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret 
ballot.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account.  The requirements for group creation
are 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and 2/3 of all votes being YES.


BOUNCED VOTE ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
----------------------------

Vote acknowledgments to the following addresses have bounced.  (The 
votes have been counted.)  It looks like the University of Otago
might be having mailer problems.  Better check /etc/ringwraiths?


[email protected] (AIESEC OTAGO)
[email protected] (Chris Marble)
[email protected] (Tim Albertson) 
-- 
Mark James  <[email protected]>    *** Opinions, errors etc are mine. ***
Dialogic Corporation, 300 Littleton Road    | "We must believe in free will.
Parsippany NJ 07054, U.S.A.                 |  We have no choice."
+1 201 334 1268 ext 438  Fax +1 201 334 1257|  -- I. B. Singer

From [email protected] Mon Nov 22 15:38:29 1993
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From: [email protected] (Mark James)
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Subject: RESULT: soc.college.org.aiesec passes 259:31
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                               VOTE RESULT

                Unmoderated group soc.college.org.aiesec

Voting closed on 17 November 1993 at 23:59:59 GMT.  The results are:

Yes votes:  259
No votes:    31

This margin is adequate for newgroup creation.  There will now be a
five-day period during which corrections to the vote count may be
made.  Barring massive controversy about the vote, the group will 
be created at the end of this period.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  

Vote-taker: 		Mark James <[email protected]>
Group proponent: 	Andrew Percival <[email protected]> 

Newsgroups line:
soc.college.org.aiesec	The Int'l Assoc. of Business and Commerce Students.


CHARTER (as printed in the Call for Votes)
-------

To provide a forum for AIESEC, "The International Association of
Students Interested in Business and Commerce", to discuss AIESEC
issues and share ideas world-wide, both within AIESEC and with other
people who may be interested in its activities.

A newsgroup would give better world-wide communication for AIESEC
and would also allow others to learn more about the association.

The group will be unmoderated.


VOTE ACKNOWLEDGMENT
-------------------

These lists are sorted in alphabetical order by login name, as taken
>from the "From:" line.  Note that certain UUCP addresses are mangled 
somewhat in order to sort nicely.


YES votes were received from the following people:

[email protected] (David Knight, AIESEC Queen's)
[email protected] (9122617p) 
[email protected] (9204682q) 
[email protected] (Abbas) 
[email protected] (WILLIAM R. BROWN) 
[email protected] (William R. Brown) 
[email protected] (Nigel Allen) 
[email protected] (Annemarie Lorusso) 
[email protected] (Holly Luong)
[email protected] 
AIESEC-Karlsruhe  [email protected]
[email protected] (Roy Jurgens)
[email protected] (AIESEC-Melbourne)
[email protected] (AIESEC-ITAM MEXICO) 
[email protected] (AIESEC)
[email protected] (AIESEC-UofA: Tucson,Arizona)
[email protected] (AIESEC-Austin)
[email protected] (Int Assoc Ec Comm Students - LUSU)
[email protected] (AIESEC-Berkeley) 
[email protected] (Aiesec Aiesec)
[email protected] (AIESEC Lethbridge)
[email protected] (Aiesec)
[email protected] (International Organization of Students In Eco.)
[email protected] (AIESEC)
[email protected] (AIESEC Queen's - The Sauna Local!)
[email protected] (Asociacion AIESEC Tec Gdl) 
[email protected] (AIESEC OTAGO)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC-St. Louis) 
[email protected] (aiesec) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC Colorado)
[email protected] (Steve)
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC - Ohio State)
[email protected] (NCKU) 
[email protected] (AIESEC KY Turku)
[email protected] (AIESEC LB)
[email protected] (AIESEC-Nederland) 
[email protected] (AIESEC-Seattle)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Ellen Sherman 814 4157)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Paul Gaffney XXX XXXX)
[email protected] (Uni Qld AIESEC President)
[email protected] (Clair Cochrane 359 6054)
[email protected] (Tony Huddy 3436108)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC Calgary)
[email protected] (christine green) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Aki Liukko)
[email protected] (Amir Hassan)
[email protected] ([Guru]) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Andras Salamon) 
[email protected] (Anton Ljutic, Montreal)
[email protected] (Antti Tolvanen)
[email protected] (Arttu Reunanen)
[email protected] (AIESEC Australia) 
[email protected] (Ben MacDonald)
[email protected] (applied math) 
[email protected] (BEATTY JAMES CAMERON)
[email protected] (HEATHER MUNN)
[email protected] (Paul Lin) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Jamie Chenard)
[email protected] (Cameron Herbert)
[email protected] (CHRISTOPHER HEATHER)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Daniel HUANG) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Donald R. Newcomb) 
[email protected] (Marc (M.) Donovan)
[email protected] (DOWLING KIMBERLY ERIN)
[email protected] (Tamara L. Dudley)
[email protected] 
EAIESEC%[email protected] (AIESEC Warocque-Mons)
[email protected] (Kari Juhani Koivuaho)
[email protected] (AIESEC-UVA)
[email protected] (Mylvis Breshnev) 
[email protected] (Erik McCormick) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC Julian Bell (UWA FC))
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (-s92088311-f.jom-man-50-) 
[email protected] (Gregory C Franklin ) 
[email protected] (Jason Harvey)
[email protected] (ANDREW PERCIVAL)
[email protected] (Gwen Ponder)
[email protected] (Blair Gowan u)
[email protected] (Sumita's piglet) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Daniell L. Bruce Jr) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Carita Gummerus)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (HANSARD JENNIFER LYNN)
[email protected] (Konrad Hernblad) 
[email protected] (-s92081557-h.gardner-man-50-) 
[email protected] (Severin Hiller)
[email protected] (Hemang Mehta) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Markku Kalervo Hurskainen)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (IVAN FARBER)
[email protected] (Ilari M{kinen)
[email protected] (AIESEC - Ga Tech) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (You're in my heart, you're in my soul....)
[email protected] (Judith Mines)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Jason Jagatic) 
[email protected] (Jan Rune Andreassen)
[email protected] (Jarmo Tapio Viljaharju)
[email protected] (Jyrki M Castren)
[email protected] (Julie B Chung) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (NAME\JAN\)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Jason King)
[email protected] (Jaska Kontiainen)
[email protected] (John Alston) 
[email protected] (JORDAN AMY SUSANN)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Jussi Tepponen)
[email protected] (Kaskinen Timo)
[email protected] (Gwendolyn Kay Ponder) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Kai Kristian Flang)
[email protected] (Brad Karabensh)
[email protected] (ACK!)
[email protected] (Marko Vuorinen) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Kirsi Nippula)
[email protected] (Kirsi Karhula)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Petri Kivinen) 
[email protected] (-s92088121-d.lam-man-50-) 
[email protected] (Lassi K|pp{)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC Person)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (ANU LCP - Liana) 
[email protected] (AIESEC Person)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Lifl{nder Kari-Pekka)
[email protected] (Lotta Lautsuo)
[email protected] (Lauri Louhivirta) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Mark Ingram)
[email protected] (Marko Niinist|)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Anne McIntyre)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Michael Deutsch)
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Michael Mark Tierney)
[email protected] (M.C. Mikey C)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (MARKUS LEINONEN)
[email protected] (MICHAEL)
[email protected] (Mika Latva-Rasku)
[email protected] (Mika TENU Lindholm) 
[email protected] (Ken Moselen)
[email protected] (Bradley Moskowitz)
[email protected] (TUUMARI - TWO MARIS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE)
[email protected] (Adam B. Ashcraft)
[email protected] (David Muir Sharnoff)
[email protected] 
[email protected] ('Spin the Tim' Goodaire)
[email protected] (Randy Finder)
[email protected] (AIESEC Windsor - Home of the Shameless)
[email protected] (-s93100081-n.crones-man-50-) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Geoffrey Page)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Paolo Patelli)
[email protected] (Pekka Juntunen)
[email protected] (Tim The Tool Man)
[email protected] (Paul E. Hoffman) 
[email protected] (Pia Korttila)
[email protected] (Denis Poon) 
[email protected] (P{ivi Pirinen)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC Projects)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (AIESEC Person)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Michael J. Quinn)
[email protected] (Ruokamo Juha)
[email protected] (Vivian Hsu)
[email protected] (Rauni Lehtinen)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Ultimate Redskin Fan) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Ruth M. SYLTE)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (JEFFREY RUFINUS, U.WISCONSIN - CERN) 
[email protected] (ROHIT AMARNATH)
[email protected] (Sarah Volp)
[email protected] (Silfverberg Markus)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Harvestor of Sorrow) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Petri Savolainen)
[email protected] (Sanna K Savolainen)
[email protected] (SNACK ON THAT)
[email protected] (OPERATOR_JXRGEN) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Steve Piner)
[email protected] (Scott Peterson) 
[email protected] (Tim Albertson) 
[email protected] (Tero)
[email protected] (Thomas E Taylor) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Tiina Marita Haavisto)
[email protected] (THOMAS JAMES) 
[email protected] (Nacho Boschi)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Teuvo Olavi Karppinen)
[email protected] (Alanen Tomi) 
[email protected] (Timo Rinne)
[email protected] (Tiia Rissanen) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Biar Joey) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Megan Louise Tyquin)
[email protected] (Brodersen / Kjerstine Elise (COM))
[email protected] (Goonrey Carolyn Michelle)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Douglas Cleary)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Atso Ilmari Vesterinen)
[email protected] (Virve Ukkonen)
[email protected] (Vik Kuttappan) 
[email protected] (*** Wise Guy ***) 
[email protected] ( ) 
[email protected] (HOUSE OF WILD THING, FUNKIE MONKEY AND HOWIE)
[email protected] (Dave Yadallee) 
[email protected] (Zigmunds Vainers)


NO votes were received from the following people:

[email protected] (Adam Bonin)
[email protected] (Cory L. Scott)
[email protected] (Chris Marble)
[email protected] (Brandon Magee)
[email protected] (Christopher Ward) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (I WANT ABBY)
[email protected] (Sean P Ryan)
[email protected] (Geoff Langdale) 
[email protected] (G. Wolfe Woodbury) 
[email protected] (Geoffrey Spaeth) 
[email protected] (John Rings of Saturn MacWilliamson) 
[email protected] (Julian Macassey) 
[email protected] (Kent J Wakely)
[email protected] (Lonadar the Wanderer) 
[email protected] (Fazal Majid) 
[email protected] (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS)
[email protected] (Martin Schroder) 
[email protected] (Cameron Parish)
[email protected] (Nainish)
[email protected] (Oliver Bock)
[email protected] (Sendhil Mr. Bubbles Revuluri)
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Shane Hartman)
[email protected] (Smarasderagd Draco) 
[email protected] (Steven Miale)
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Stu Labovitz) 
[email protected]!decvax!av8r (Thomas Charron) 
[email protected] (Ted Frank)
-- 
Mark James  <[email protected]>    *** Opinions, errors etc are mine. ***
Dialogic Corporation, 300 Littleton Road    | "We must believe in free will.
Parsippany NJ 07054, U.S.A.                 |  We have no choice."
+1 201 334 1268 ext 438  Fax +1 201 334 1257|  -- I. B. Singer

 
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