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From [email protected] Thu Jul  8 17:11:37 1993
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From: [email protected] (Mazyar Lotfalian)
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Subject: RFD: soc.culture.scientists
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Request For Discussion:

The follow-up articles will be posted on "news.groups:"

        This is to suggest a news group that can bring scientists and
engineer of different cultural background together
debating/confronting the issues on culture/tradition, science,
religion, gender and education.
        Recently, some prominent scientists have argued for blurring
of the boundaries between scientific knowledge and religious
convictions. People who do cultural studies of science and technology
have drawn attention on scientific imagination of the "Third World"
scientists. Moreover, the science-cities in the other parts of the
world have created new niches for "science-gone-native."  Given these
ongoing discussions and events, the proposed "news group" could create
a space for an interdisciplinary debate over the above issues.
       
	 The common denominator of this suggested group with
soc.culture* groups, as I see it, is twofold: 

1-Many scientists and engineer have computer access and connection
  with internet or bitnet, especially those who work in large institutions.

2-Despite the fact that most people in soc.culture groups are
  scientists and engineers, there is no space for them to share their
  ideas and experiences as far as these issues are relevant to
  soc.culture, i.e., the social and cultural context of their professions.


        The intention and content of this news group:

1-The intention could be to encourage exchange of opinion,
  information, and have access to each other's experiences as
  engineers and scientists of various background. 

2-The content could be constituted of a range of issues from religious to
  secular, biographical, woman and science, technological advances,
  to day-to-day events.

Regards  mazyar
P.S. I am an PhD student in anthropology at Rice university, interested in
 cultural studies of science and technology.

From [email protected] Thu Aug 12 14:18:16 1993
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From: [email protected] (Jim Huggins)
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Subject: CFV: soc.culture.scientists
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                      CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 2)

Unmoderated group soc.culture.scientists
 
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soc.culture.scientists	Cultural issues about scientists & scientific projects.

Votes must be received by 2 Sep 1993, 23:59 UTC.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
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CHARTER 

Why "soc.culture.scientists"?
----------------------------

The soc.* hierarchy is home to many groups devoted to discussions of
minority or regional issues (the soc.culture.* groups), as well as to
groups interested in counterhegemonic (feminist) or other
non-scientific, yet academic issues (e.g. soc.history).

Soc.culture.scientists is supposed to combine many of these currents
in "soc" thought, providing a home for the serious discussion of how
science has been affected by its own globalization.

The name of the group was chosen to reflect a decentering of the image
of the scientist as a "universal man" -- to acknowledge and accept as
a valid concern scientists' social settings, cultural backgrounds, and
genders.  Soc.culture.scientists explicitly encourages the scientists
and engineers of different cultural background to participate in this
newsgroup.

What qualifies as a legitimate discussion?
------------------------------------------

--  Discussion about the education of scientists and the effect of their
    cultural background on their scientific praxis.
--  Discussions of scientific praxis in a cross-cultural perspective
--  Discussions of the metanarratives from which certain ideas about
    objectivity and scientific rationality gain their authority
--  Discussions of specific Big Science projects that demonstrate the
    globalizing processes of modernity (e.g. international research
    cooperatives)
--  Discussions of social/technological developments that have tended 
    to make scientific endeavors culturally heterogeneous
--  Discussions about the actual projects, science cities, and
    collaboration of scientists (i.e., different countries).
--  Posting news from around the world with inclusion of sources.

In general, anything which might be discussed at conferences or in
academic programs devoted to science and technology studies, with the
one major difference that this newsgroup automatically creates a
culturally diverse context for the expression of personal viewpoints.

What does NOT qualify as a legitimate discussion?
-------------------------------------------------

This is tricky, because while discussions of the cultural contexts
that have produced alternative scientific traditions such as (a lot
of) X-Soviet Science and Vedic Science, etc., ought to be perfectly
acceptable (insofar as they do not range into flamewars or
simple-minded critiques of ideology), it is clear that this newsgroup
should not be allowed to become a forum for the promulgation of highly
eccentric, personal, "alternative" theories of science or the nature
of the universe.

As a general rule, this is not the place for describing any scientific
theory unless that description is being used as part of a larger
description of the social context in which that theory was produced.

In short: We don't want to hear about why "time has inertia" or why
certain crystals are good for my inner balance, but we wouldn't mind
hearing about WHY "alternative" science enjoys some popularity today
in many different places.
-- 
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Jim Huggins, Univ. of Michigan                        [email protected]
"You cannot pray to a personal computer no matter how user-friendly it is."
                                                        -- W. Bingham Hunter

From [email protected] Tue Aug 24 17:14:56 1993
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Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.scientists
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                      CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 2)

Unmoderated group soc.culture.scientists
 
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soc.culture.scientists	Cultural issues about scientists & scientific projects.

Votes must be received by 2 Sep 1993, 23:59 UTC.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected]  For questions about
the proposed group, contact Mazyar Lotfalian <[email protected]>.

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      I vote YES on soc.culture.scientists
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Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
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YES are the requirements for group creation.

CHARTER 

Why "soc.culture.scientists"?
----------------------------

The soc.* hierarchy is home to many groups devoted to discussions of
minority or regional issues (the soc.culture.* groups), as well as to
groups interested in counterhegemonic (feminist) or other
non-scientific, yet academic issues (e.g. soc.history).

Soc.culture.scientists is supposed to combine many of these currents
in "soc" thought, providing a home for the serious discussion of how
science has been affected by its own globalization.

The name of the group was chosen to reflect a decentering of the image
of the scientist as a "universal man" -- to acknowledge and accept as
a valid concern scientists' social settings, cultural backgrounds, and
genders.  Soc.culture.scientists explicitly encourages the scientists
and engineers of different cultural background to participate in this
newsgroup.

What qualifies as a legitimate discussion?
------------------------------------------

--  Discussion about the education of scientists and the effect of their
    cultural background on their scientific praxis.
--  Discussions of scientific praxis in a cross-cultural perspective
--  Discussions of the metanarratives from which certain ideas about
    objectivity and scientific rationality gain their authority
--  Discussions of specific Big Science projects that demonstrate the
    globalizing processes of modernity (e.g. international research
    cooperatives)
--  Discussions of social/technological developments that have tended 
    to make scientific endeavors culturally heterogeneous
--  Discussions about the actual projects, science cities, and
    collaboration of scientists (i.e., different countries).
--  Posting news from around the world with inclusion of sources.

In general, anything which might be discussed at conferences or in
academic programs devoted to science and technology studies, with the
one major difference that this newsgroup automatically creates a
culturally diverse context for the expression of personal viewpoints.

What does NOT qualify as a legitimate discussion?
-------------------------------------------------

This is tricky, because while discussions of the cultural contexts
that have produced alternative scientific traditions such as (a lot
of) X-Soviet Science and Vedic Science, etc., ought to be perfectly
acceptable (insofar as they do not range into flamewars or
simple-minded critiques of ideology), it is clear that this newsgroup
should not be allowed to become a forum for the promulgation of highly
eccentric, personal, "alternative" theories of science or the nature
of the universe.

As a general rule, this is not the place for describing any scientific
theory unless that description is being used as part of a larger
description of the social context in which that theory was produced.

In short: We don't want to hear about why "time has inertia" or why
certain crystals are good for my inner balance, but we wouldn't mind
hearing about WHY "alternative" science enjoys some popularity today
in many different places.
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Huggins, Univ. of Michigan                        [email protected]
"You cannot pray to a personal computer no matter how user-friendly it is."
                                                        -- W. Bingham Hunter

From [email protected] Fri Sep  3 15:50:27 1993
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From: [email protected] (Jim Huggins)
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Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.scientists passes 230:82
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The unmoderated group soc.culture.scientists Call For Votes passes by
a margin of 230:82.  Barring any voting irregularities, a newgroup
message for soc.culture.scientists will be sent out in five days.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected]  For questions about
the proposed group, contact Mazyar Lotfalian <[email protected]>.

A copy of the results will be posted to the groups listed in the
"X-Other-Newsgroups:" line after the original results posting appears
in news.announce.newgroups.

A full vote listing follows the charter.
 
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.scientists	Cultural issues about scientists & scientific projects.

CHARTER 

Why "soc.culture.scientists"?
----------------------------

The soc.* hierarchy is home to many groups devoted to discussions of
minority or regional issues (the soc.culture.* groups), as well as to
groups interested in counterhegemonic (feminist) or other
non-scientific, yet academic issues (e.g. soc.history).

Soc.culture.scientists is supposed to combine many of these currents
in "soc" thought, providing a home for the serious discussion of how
science has been affected by its own globalization.

The name of the group was chosen to reflect a decentering of the image
of the scientist as a "universal man" -- to acknowledge and accept as
a valid concern scientists' social settings, cultural backgrounds, and
genders.  Soc.culture.scientists explicitly encourages the scientists
and engineers of different cultural background to participate in this
newsgroup.

What qualifies as a legitimate discussion?
------------------------------------------

--  Discussion about the education of scientists and the effect of their
    cultural background on their scientific praxis.
--  Discussions of scientific praxis in a cross-cultural perspective
--  Discussions of the metanarratives from which certain ideas about
    objectivity and scientific rationality gain their authority
--  Discussions of specific Big Science projects that demonstrate the
    globalizing processes of modernity (e.g. international research
    cooperatives)
--  Discussions of social/technological developments that have tended 
    to make scientific endeavors culturally heterogeneous
--  Discussions about the actual projects, science cities, and
    collaboration of scientists (i.e., different countries).
--  Posting news from around the world with inclusion of sources.

In general, anything which might be discussed at conferences or in
academic programs devoted to science and technology studies, with the
one major difference that this newsgroup automatically creates a
culturally diverse context for the expression of personal viewpoints.

What does NOT qualify as a legitimate discussion?
-------------------------------------------------

This is tricky, because while discussions of the cultural contexts
that have produced alternative scientific traditions such as (a lot
of) X-Soviet Science and Vedic Science, etc., ought to be perfectly
acceptable (insofar as they do not range into flamewars or
simple-minded critiques of ideology), it is clear that this newsgroup
should not be allowed to become a forum for the promulgation of highly
eccentric, personal, "alternative" theories of science or the nature
of the universe.

As a general rule, this is not the place for describing any scientific
theory unless that description is being used as part of a larger
description of the social context in which that theory was produced.

In short: We don't want to hear about why "time has inertia" or why
certain crystals are good for my inner balance, but we wouldn't mind
hearing about WHY "alternative" science enjoys some popularity today
in many different places.

VOTE TALLY

Yes Votes
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