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From [email protected] Thu Apr 20 22:00:22 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Paul Michals)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing
Subject: RFD: soc.genealogy.hispanic
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 20 Apr 1995 15:28:26 -0400
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                     Request for Discussion (RFD)
               unmoderated group soc.genealogy.hispanic

Newsgroup       : soc.genealogy.hispanic
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of genealogy of hispanic people.
Proponents      : Amando Alvarez <[email protected]>
                : Paul Michals <[email protected]>

(en espannol)  Para leer el RFD en espannol favor de enviar su mensaje a
Amando Alvarez ([email protected]).

Followups are directed to news.groups - please honor.

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of an unmoderated
newsgroup, soc.genealogy.hispanic

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation.  Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs.

CHARTER

The soc.genealogy.hispanic newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
aspects of Hispanic genealogy.  The precise definition of "Hispanic" is
somewhat open to debate, but is generally considered to relate to
Spanish-speaking people or cultures.

It is hoped that soc.genealogy.hispanic will provide a forum for the
discussion of Hispanic genealogy which encompasses and links together
all of the diverse Spanish speaking cultures in both hemispheres and
allows for appreciation of the underlying similarities, as well as the
unique aspects, of all of these Hispanic cultures in relation to
genealogical research.

Language shall not be restricted to English.  Volunteer translators
will help out as needed. If there is need, a rotating committee will
be formed which will handle translation requests so the group will not be
deluged with many copies of the same translation.

Subjects such as software and other 'generic' genealogy are
best posted to the appropriate group unless the poster is not
proficient in the English language and needs to write in Spanish.

RATIONALE

There is a growing interest in Hispanic genealogy on the Internet, as
evidenced by the discussions of Hispanic genealogy that appear regularly
on other newsgroups, such as soc.genealogy.misc and alt.genealogy in
addition to several newsgroups in the "soc.culture" hierarchy.  We
believe this is sufficient to justify the creation of an Hispanic
newsgroup in the "soc.genealogy" hierarchy.

DISTRIBUTION of RFD and other required posts:

     The complete official messages - RFD, CFV and vote results will
     be posted to these required or affected newsgroups:

          news.announce.newsgroups
          news.groups
          soc.genealogy.computing   (in accordance with s.g.c charter)

     and to interested newsgroups and mailing lists:

          alt.genealogy
          [email protected]


     A short "pointer" message will be sent to other groups to alert
     interested news readers who may wish to follow the RFD/CFV process:


          soc.culture.mexican.american
          soc.culture.latin-american
          soc.culture.mexican
          soc.culture.spain
          soc.culture.puerto-rico
          alt.culture.us.southwest


     and to related mailing lists to alert interested subscribers
     who also have access to Usenet newsgroups
     who may wish to follow the RFD/CFV process:

	  Aztlan	[email protected]

	  Basque-L	[email protected]

	  Espana-L	[email protected]

	  Espora-L	[email protected]

	  H-Latam 	[email protected]

	  Lasnet	[email protected]

	  Mexico-L	[email protected]


The RFD or pointer message may be forwarded to other *appropriate*
newsgroups or mailing lists, but we ask that both proponents and
opponents honor the Usenet polling procedure by not forwarding the CFV
to mailing lists, since only people who will be affected by the proposed
newsgroup should vote on it, and mailng list subscribers who can read
Usenet news should be able to get a copy of the CFV from
news.announce.newsgroups, soc.genealogy.computing, or alt.genealogy.

Procedure - Discussion:

     Posting of this RFD initiates a discussion period of at least 21
     days. Discussion about the proposed newsgroup will take place on
     news.groups, which is a newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of
     new newsgroups, and anyone interested is encouraged to participate.


Procedure - Followups:

     To allow readers of the soc.genealogy groups and other newsgroups
     or mailing lists to carry on discussions of genealogy without
     having to deal with unwanted messages about the proposed
     newsgroup, followups have been set to news.groups.  Cross-posted
     followups are discouraged. If you post messages about this RFD,
     please ensure that your article headers include:

          Newsgroups:    news.groups
          Followup-To:   news.groups

     If you wish to post to news.groups, but don't have access, you
     may mail your post to [email protected]  If you wish to
     read news.groups, but don't have access, you may be able to find
     a Gopher site that makes news.groups available.

Also note that under the Usenet guidelines:

    The RFD discussion period will last for between 21 and 30 days.

    The discussion will be followed by a CFV (Call for Votes).

    The vote will be run by a neutral third party,
    probably the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV)

    This message is *not* a Call For Votes (CFV) - do not try to vote:

          before the CFV is posted, or
          by posting anything anywhere, or
          by sending e-mail to anyone but the votetaker.

    The voting procedure will be clearly described in the CFV when
    the time to vote arrives. Now is NOT the time to vote.

(en espannol)  Para leer el RFD en espannol favor de enviar su mensaje a
Amando Alvarez ([email protected]).

From [email protected] Mon May 29 22:37:11 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,alt.genealogy
Subject: CFV: soc.genealogy.hispanic
Followup-To: poster
Date: 28 May 1995 18:50:51 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 93
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 19 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                   unmoderated group soc.genealogy.hispanic

Newsgroups line:
soc.genealogy.hispanic	Genealogy relating to Hispanics.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Amando Alvarez
<[email protected]>, or Paul Michals <[email protected]>.

DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross posted to:
	soc.genealogy.computing, alt.genealogy
and EMailed to:
	Aztlan        [email protected]du
	Espana-L      [email protected]
	Espora-L      [email protected]
	Lasnet        [email protected]
	Mexico-L      [email protected]
	[email protected]

RATIONALE

There is a growing interest in Hispanic genealogy on the Internet, as
evidenced by the discussions of Hispanic genealogy that appear regularly
on other newsgroups, such as soc.genealogy.misc and alt.genealogy in
addition to several newsgroups in the "soc.culture" hierarchy.  We
believe this is sufficient to justify the creation of an Hispanic
newsgroup in the "soc.genealogy" hierarchy.

CHARTER

The soc.genealogy.hispanic newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
aspects of Hispanic genealogy.  The precise definition of "Hispanic" is
somewhat open to debate, but is generally considered to relate to
Spanish-speaking people or cultures.

It is hoped that soc.genealogy.hispanic will provide a forum for the
discussion of Hispanic genealogy which encompasses and links together
all of the diverse Spanish speaking cultures in both hemispheres and
allows for appreciation of the underlying similarities, as well as the
unique aspects, of all of these Hispanic cultures in relation to
genealogical research.

Language shall not be restricted to English.  Volunteer translators
will help out as needed. If there is need, a rotating committee will
be formed which will handle translation requests so the group will not be
deluged with many copies of the same translation.

Subjects such as software and other 'generic' genealogy are
best posted to the appropriate group unless the poster is not
proficient in the English language and needs to write in Spanish.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.
      I vote YES on soc.genealogy.hispanic
      I vote NO on soc.genealogy.hispanic
      I vote ABSTAIN on soc.genealogy.hispanic
      I CANCEL my vote on soc.genealogy.hispanic

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Wed Jun  7 17:10:31 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,alt.genealogy
Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.genealogy.hispanic
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 7 Jun 1995 16:35:25 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 93
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 19 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                   unmoderated group soc.genealogy.hispanic

Newsgroups line:
soc.genealogy.hispanic	Genealogy relating to Hispanics.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Amando Alvarez
<[email protected]>, or Paul Michals <[email protected]>.

DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross posted to:
	soc.genealogy.computing, alt.genealogy
and EMailed to:
	Aztlan        [email protected]
	Espana-L      [email protected]
	Espora-L      [email protected]
	Lasnet        [email protected]
	Mexico-L      [email protected]
	[email protected]

RATIONALE

There is a growing interest in Hispanic genealogy on the Internet, as
evidenced by the discussions of Hispanic genealogy that appear regularly
on other newsgroups, such as soc.genealogy.misc and alt.genealogy in
addition to several newsgroups in the "soc.culture" hierarchy.  We
believe this is sufficient to justify the creation of an Hispanic
newsgroup in the "soc.genealogy" hierarchy.

CHARTER

The soc.genealogy.hispanic newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
aspects of Hispanic genealogy.  The precise definition of "Hispanic" is
somewhat open to debate, but is generally considered to relate to
Spanish-speaking people or cultures.

It is hoped that soc.genealogy.hispanic will provide a forum for the
discussion of Hispanic genealogy which encompasses and links together
all of the diverse Spanish speaking cultures in both hemispheres and
allows for appreciation of the underlying similarities, as well as the
unique aspects, of all of these Hispanic cultures in relation to
genealogical research.

Language shall not be restricted to English.  Volunteer translators
will help out as needed. If there is need, a rotating committee will
be formed which will handle translation requests so the group will not be
deluged with many copies of the same translation.

Subjects such as software and other 'generic' genealogy are
best posted to the appropriate group unless the poster is not
proficient in the English language and needs to write in Spanish.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.
      I vote YES on soc.genealogy.hispanic
      I vote NO on soc.genealogy.hispanic
      I vote ABSTAIN on soc.genealogy.hispanic
      I CANCEL my vote on soc.genealogy.hispanic

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Wed Jun 21 16:47:03 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,alt.genealogy
Subject: RESULT: soc.genealogy.hispanic passes 134:22
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 21 Jun 1995 01:22:39 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 231
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Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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                                RESULT
            unmoderated group soc.genealogy.hispanic passes 134:22

There were 134 YES votes and 22 NO votes, for a total of 156 valid votes.
There were 4 abstains and 4 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

  soc.genealogy.hispanic passed on Tue Jun 13 11:49:25 1995

Newsgroups line:
soc.genealogy.hispanic	Genealogy relating to Hispanics.

This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>. For questions
about the proposed group contact Amando Alvarez <[email protected]>, or
Paul Michals <[email protected]>.

CHARTER

The soc.genealogy.hispanic newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
aspects of Hispanic genealogy.  The precise definition of "Hispanic" is
somewhat open to debate, but is generally considered to relate to
Spanish-speaking people or cultures.

It is hoped that soc.genealogy.hispanic will provide a forum for the
discussion of Hispanic genealogy which encompasses and links together
all of the diverse Spanish speaking cultures in both hemispheres and
allows for appreciation of the underlying similarities, as well as the
unique aspects, of all of these Hispanic cultures in relation to
genealogical research.

Language shall not be restricted to English.  Volunteer translators
will help out as needed. If there is need, a rotating committee will
be formed which will handle translation requests so the group will not be
deluged with many copies of the same translation.

Subjects such as software and other 'generic' genealogy are
best posted to the appropriate group unless the poster is not
proficient in the English language and needs to write in Spanish.

[This collection of addresses is (C)1995 by Consultix Computer Services.
Permission is strictly NOT given to use this list or any part thereof to
make a mailing list, or for mass-mailings.  Any other use is fine.]
soc.genealogy.hispanic Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                    Timothy R. Powell
[email protected]                                      Arturo Zendejas
[email protected]                                       Luis M. Flores
[email protected]                                   Xana Arango Hansen
[email protected]                                           JL CAMUNAS
[email protected]                                           Ralph Pitre
[email protected]                                                Amando Alvarez
[email protected]                                                  Towster Alicia E.
[email protected]                                                 Alan Benson
[email protected]                          Alf Christophersen
[email protected]                                          Allison Elliott
[email protected]                                             Juan Alonso
[email protected]                                                Ann-Marie
[email protected]                                          Anders M\vller
[email protected]                                             Annie I. Anton
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                               Barbara Butler
[email protected]                                          James Bazan
[email protected]                                     Paul Bigelow
[email protected]                                         William Mills
[email protected]                                                Beverly Newbank
[email protected]                                      Carol J. Botteron
[email protected]                                      Lawrence Cahill
[email protected]                                    Carlos Alonso Gomez (adm)
[email protected]                                              Collin Howell
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                     Jaime Samaniego
[email protected]                                         paula (p.j.) bellington
[email protected]                                           David F. Reynolds
[email protected]                                           David Naylor
[email protected]                                            David Lewin
[email protected]                                               David Chapin
[email protected]                                               Dean Derhak
[email protected]                                              Dave Furstenau
[email protected]                                        Linda Easterbrooks
[email protected]
[email protected]                                        Juan Manuel Oraa Gil
[email protected]                                             Lin Wright
[email protected]                                       Lisbeth Andersson
[email protected]                                H George Friedman
[email protected]                                Francisco RuizdeFrancisco
[email protected]                                   Phlete Teachout
[email protected]                                          Denis McKeon
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                               Gerald Maginnity
[email protected]                                     Gordon P.Lane
[email protected]                                   Betty Caroline Tong
[email protected]                                                  George Baltz
[email protected]                                             Hans Vappula
[email protected]                                         Robert Craig Harman
[email protected]                                   Harold A. Driscoll
[email protected]                                               Ida S McCormick
[email protected]                                         Inigo Serna Robledo
[email protected]                                           Jackie Lamorie
[email protected]                                               Jose Alonso
[email protected]                                                       Joe Bagg
[email protected]
[email protected]                                  Jennifer L. O'Neal
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                         John E Wynn
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                           Jonboy
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                  Jim Terry
[email protected]                                                   Judi Sharp
[email protected]                                                  Karen Isaacson
[email protected]                                              Kim DeVaughn
[email protected]                                             A. Klee
[email protected]                                   Kathryn Newkirk Graham
[email protected]                                    Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                               Larry Duran
[email protected]                                                 RICHARD LEBO
[email protected]                                               Brian Leverich
[email protected]                                               Leona Garcia
[email protected]
[email protected]                                        Luis C Martinez-Molina
[email protected]
[email protected]                                Mari Brennan Barrera
[email protected]                                     Scott W. Melendez-Stewart
[email protected]                                      Michael Emery
[email protected]                                                 Mike Fauber
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                           Mike Fisher
[email protected]
[email protected]                                       Margaret J. Olson
[email protected]                                         J.Mario Narvaez
[email protected]
[email protected]                                 David Maurice
[email protected]                    Manel =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sanrom=E0?=
[email protected]                                              MR GARY FELIX
[email protected]                                                            Msmil
[email protected]                             Michael R. Swigart
[email protected]                                                     Nigel Allen
[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
[email protected]                                      Oakland Public Library
[email protected]                                          Lando
[email protected]
[email protected]                                               Paul Bolchover
[email protected]                                                      Pat Boren
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                  Peggy Hall
[email protected]                                    Phyllis Adele Schneck
[email protected]                                      John Pimentel
[email protected]                                                  Ruth M. Sylte
[email protected]                                            Robert Marshall
[email protected]
[email protected]                                              Ronald E. Smith
[email protected]                                                      RoseBear
[email protected]                                    Ross Penner
[email protected]                                 Romelia Salinas
[email protected]                                                    Steve Wright
[email protected]                                Scott W. Register
[email protected]                                                      Sharon Allsup
[email protected]                                      Sheilah Horman
[email protected]                                       jane ulrich
[email protected]                                     Sunta C. Rosapepe
[email protected]                              Shirley Soenksen
[email protected]                                                Don Stone
[email protected]
[email protected]                                     Stuart Yeates
[email protected]                                           Susan King
[email protected]                                      Johan Berteloot
[email protected]                                                 Coralie J. Allen
[email protected]                                                Tom Perrett
[email protected]                                         Richard R Uren~a
[email protected]
[email protected]                                              Wally Jansen
[email protected]                                            william w. eggers
[email protected]                                         Gooding Peter William

Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Ananda M. Kar
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]                            David W. Crawford
[email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                         Ryan
[email protected]                                                Eric Garbos
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                       Gordon Engel
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                                  Lance K. Chun
[email protected]                                             William Moxley
[email protected]                                     Ollivier Robert
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                               Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                                   Tony Basoglu
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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[email protected]                                           Ed Bailey
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                                  M. Otto


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                              MR JOHN DUMAS
   ! No vote statement in message
MARTINEZJ%[email protected]                            JUNITA . MARTINEZ
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]
   ! Invalid address
[email protected]
   ! No vote statement in message

 
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