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From [email protected] Fri Mar 17 23:06:15 1995
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From: [email protected] (Don Stone)
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Subject: RFD: soc.genealogy.medieval
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                   REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

Group Name:    soc.genealogy.medieval
Status:        not moderated
Proponent:     Don C. Stone <[email protected]>
Distribution:  world
Gateways:      to a mailing list
RFD posted to: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
               soc.genealogy.computing, soc.genealogy.misc, alt.genealogy,
Cc to:         [email protected],
               [email protected]
               [email protected]

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soc.genealogy.medieval      Genealogy in the period from roughly
                            AD 500 (or earlier) to AD 1600

NOTE:     This is not a Call for Votes. Do not try to vote now.
          Followups set to news.groups; please honor. See the
          "Procedure" section, below, for details.

Charter:

soc.genealogy.medieval is for genealogy and family history
discussion among people researching individuals living during
medieval times, as well as related topics.  The primary focus of
the group is likely to be on Europe and neighboring regions, but
postings about genealogy in other areas during this time period
are welcomed.  The medieval period is loosely defined for the
purposes of this group as the period extending from the breakup
of the (Western) Roman Empire until the time public records (such
as church, tax, and census records) relating to the general
population began to be kept. This period would extend roughly
>from AD 500 to AD 1600, but these limits are not intended to
exclude related topics of discussion lying outside of these
boundaries.

The group is open to anyone with an interest in genealogy in the
time period in question, including, but not limited to: royal and
noble descents, origins of American colonists, feudal descent of
property, value of pre-historical sources (such as sagas),
adoption of surnames and arms by families, source availability
and reliability, and reviews and correction of published works.

The group is open to discussions of other related topics falling
outside the boundaries of the period, such as the genealogy of
modern nobility and genealogical links to antiquity.  On the
other hand, postings of a general historical or cultural nature
which are completely unrelated to genealogy are not welcome even
when falling within the medieval period.

Rationale:

The scope of the group reflects the different nature of
genealogical research in the medieval period.  Vital records and
census records are not available for this period, and the
researcher must rely instead on records of inheritance of
property or tenancy, heraldic visitations, monastic charters,
chronicles, onomastic evidence, and even numismatic evidence.
There is a long history of study of the medieval period by
genealogists of variable reliability, with much of the older
incorrect work still in general circulation.  More recent work
has often appeared in obscure journals; sometimes it is in
languages other than English.  The group is intended to address
all these various facets.  As with the available sources, posts
may be in any language but will probably be understood by the
largest audience if in English.  All posters are encouraged to
provide references for genealogical information presented, and to
present lineages in as condensed a format as will still convey
the necessary information.

While there are significant differences between countries for
genealogical research after the medieval period, the differences
are less pronounced during the medieval period, especially in
Europe and neighboring regions, because of substantial
similarities in social and legal structures, the pervasiveness of
the Christian Church, the widespread use of Latin as an official
language, frequent changes in national boundaries, and
intermarriages between royal families.  In addition, the amount
of genealogical material available for a given area is much
smaller for the medieval period than for the modern.  For these
reasons it is plausible at least initially to conduct discussions
in a single group (with no geographic subdivisions).

Background:

The number of postings on medieval topics in soc.genealogy.misc
has been substantial.  From the beginning of Dec. 1994 through
7 Mar. 1995, out of a total of 3689 posts there were 231
medieval posts (not counting an additional 19 posts about the
idea of starting a soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup).  During
the one-month period from 6 Feb. through 7 Mar. almost 10% of
the postings were on medieval topics.

Mailing List Gateway and Archive:

It is our intention that the group will be gated to a mailing
list for genealogists who do not have access to Usenet.  The gate
is expected to be two-way, so that messages posted on either side
will also appear on the other side.  It is also our intention
that the content of the postings shall be archived and made
researchable via FTP-mail or other such means.  (Both the mailing
list and the archive are now being arranged.)

Supporters of this Proposal:

This proposal is being supported by the following people.  We
encourage you to participate in the discussions in news.groups.
If you need to contact any of us personally, we are:

Proponent:   Don C. Stone    [email protected]
Other supporters:
  Todd A. Farmerie
  Patricia Boren        [email protected]
  Tom Camfield          [email protected]
  Gordon Fisher         [email protected]
  Kaare Lie             [email protected]
  Lucy Moye             [email protected]
  Kathleen Much         [email protected]
  William Addams Reitwiesner
                        [email protected]
  Herbert Stoyan        [email protected]


Distribution of RFD:

The complete official messages - RFD, CFV and vote results will
be posted to these required or affected newsgroups:

       news.announce.newsgroups, news.groups,
       soc.genealogy.computing (in accordance with s.g.c charter)

   and to interested newsgroups and mailing lists:

       alt.genealogy,
       [email protected],
       [email protected],
       [email protected]

A short "pointer" message will be sent to other groups and
mailing lists whose readers may be interested.

   soc.genealogy.misc, soc.genealogy.jewish, soc.genealogy.french,
   soc.genealogy.german, soc.genealogy.methods, soc.genealogy.misc,
   soc.genealogy.surnames, rec.heraldry, alt.scottish.clans,
   soc.history.moderated, [email protected]

Procedure:

Interested parties are encouraged to comment on this proposal in
news.groups.  Please post your comments *only* in news.groups.
After 21 days, if there appears to be a strong consensus in favor
of this proposal as it is written here, a Call For Votes (CFV)
will be posted, which will initiate the voting process;
otherwise, discussion will continue until a more refined proposal
can be prepared.

Again, please do *not* attempt to vote now.  The voting process
has not begun, and any attempted votes will be DISCARDED.

For more information on the newsgroup creation process, see
the documents entitled "How to Create a New Usenet
Newsgroup" and "Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion" by
David Lawrence <[email protected]>, posted regularly to
news.groups, news.announce.newusers, and news.answers, and
available for ftp at rtfm.mit.edu in
/pub/usenet/news.groups.

From [email protected] Wed May  3 19:18:37 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Subject: CFV: soc.genealogy.medieval
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		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group soc.genealogy.medieval

Newsgroups lines:
soc.genealogy.medieval	Genealogy in the period from roughly AD500 to AD1600.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 24 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Jonathan Kamens <[email protected]> (the
votetaker).  For questions about the proposed group contact Don Stone
<[email protected]> (the proponent).


OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV

The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet
newsgroups to which it is posted, including news.announce.newgroups,
and the votetaker.  Official copy will also be sent to the following
mailing lists and mail-to-newsgroup gateways: [email protected]
(subscription address: [email protected]),
[email protected] (a newsgroup gateway, so it does not have a
subscription address), and [email protected]
(another newsgroup gateway).


CHARTER

soc.genealogy.medieval is for genealogy and family history discussion
among people researching individuals living during medieval times, as
well as related topics.  The primary focus of the group is likely to
be on Europe and neighboring regions, but postings about genealogy in
other areas during this time period are welcomed.  The medieval period
is loosely defined for the purposes of this group as the period
extending from the breakup of the (Western) Roman Empire until the
time public records (such as church, tax, and census records) relating
to the general population began to be kept.  This period would extend
roughly from AD 500 to AD 1600, but these limits are not intended to
exclude related topics of discussion lying outside of these
boundaries.

The group is open to anyone with an interest in genealogy in the time
period in question, including, but not limited to: royal and noble
descents, origins of American colonists, feudal descent of property,
value of pre-historical sources (such as sagas), adoption of surnames
and arms by families, source availability and reliability, and reviews
and correction of published works.

The group is open to discussions of other related topics falling
outside the boundaries of the period, such as the genealogy of modern
nobility and genealogical links to antiquity.  On the other hand,
postings of a general historical or cultural nature which are
completely unrelated to genealogy are not welcome even when falling
within the medieval period.


RATIONALE

The scope of the group reflects the different nature of genealogical
research in the medieval period.  Vital records and census records are
not available for this period, and the researcher must rely instead on
records of inheritance of property or tenancy, heraldic visitations,
monastic charters, chronicles, onomastic evidence, and even numismatic
evidence.  There is a long history of study of the medieval period by
genealogists of variable reliability, with much of the older incorrect
work still in general circulation.  More recent work has often
appeared in obscure journals; sometimes it is in languages other than
English.  The group is intended to address all these various facets.
As with the available sources, posts may be in any language but will
probably be understood by the largest audience if in English.  All
posters are encouraged to provide references for genealogical
information presented, and to present lineages in as condensed a
format as will still convey the necessary information.

While there are significant differences between countries for
genealogical research after the medieval period, the differences are
less pronounced during the medieval period, especially in Europe and
neighboring regions, because of substantial similarities in social and
legal structures, the pervasiveness of the Christian Church, the
widespread use of Latin as an official language, frequent changes in
national boundaries, and intermarriages between royal families.  In
addition, the amount of genealogical material available for a given
area is much smaller for the medieval period than for the modern.  For
these reasons it is plausible at least initially to conduct
discussions in a single group (with no geographic subdivisions).


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
	vote soc.genealogy.medieval YES
	vote soc.genealogy.medieval NO


IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  You should receive an automatic acknowledgement of your vote
within three days.  If you do not, contact the votetaker about the
problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.
Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list.

Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid
vote.

Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI
forms are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed
directly from the voter to the votetaker.)

In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is
standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the
violator.

If you give anyone a copy of the CFV, it must be whole and unmodified.

When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

-- 
Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   [email protected]

From [email protected] Sat May 13 00:09:54 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.genealogy.medieval
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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		      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
	       unmoderated group soc.genealogy.medieval

Newsgroups lines:
soc.genealogy.medieval	Genealogy in the period from roughly AD500 to AD1600.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 24 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Jonathan Kamens <[email protected]> (the
votetaker).  For questions about the proposed group contact Don Stone
<[email protected]rowan.edu> (the proponent).


OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV

The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet
newsgroups to which it is posted, including news.announce.newgroups,
and the votetaker.  Official copy will also be sent to the following
mailing lists and mail-to-newsgroup gateways: [email protected]
(subscription address: listser[email protected]),
[email protected] (a newsgroup gateway, so it does not have a
subscription address), and [email protected]
(another newsgroup gateway).


CHARTER

soc.genealogy.medieval is for genealogy and family history discussion
among people researching individuals living during medieval times, as
well as related topics.  The primary focus of the group is likely to
be on Europe and neighboring regions, but postings about genealogy in
other areas during this time period are welcomed.  The medieval period
is loosely defined for the purposes of this group as the period
extending from the breakup of the (Western) Roman Empire until the
time public records (such as church, tax, and census records) relating
to the general population began to be kept.  This period would extend
roughly from AD 500 to AD 1600, but these limits are not intended to
exclude related topics of discussion lying outside of these
boundaries.

The group is open to anyone with an interest in genealogy in the time
period in question, including, but not limited to: royal and noble
descents, origins of American colonists, feudal descent of property,
value of pre-historical sources (such as sagas), adoption of surnames
and arms by families, source availability and reliability, and reviews
and correction of published works.

The group is open to discussions of other related topics falling
outside the boundaries of the period, such as the genealogy of modern
nobility and genealogical links to antiquity.  On the other hand,
postings of a general historical or cultural nature which are
completely unrelated to genealogy are not welcome even when falling
within the medieval period.


RATIONALE

The scope of the group reflects the different nature of genealogical
research in the medieval period.  Vital records and census records are
not available for this period, and the researcher must rely instead on
records of inheritance of property or tenancy, heraldic visitations,
monastic charters, chronicles, onomastic evidence, and even numismatic
evidence.  There is a long history of study of the medieval period by
genealogists of variable reliability, with much of the older incorrect
work still in general circulation.  More recent work has often
appeared in obscure journals; sometimes it is in languages other than
English.  The group is intended to address all these various facets.
As with the available sources, posts may be in any language but will
probably be understood by the largest audience if in English.  All
posters are encouraged to provide references for genealogical
information presented, and to present lineages in as condensed a
format as will still convey the necessary information.

While there are significant differences between countries for
genealogical research after the medieval period, the differences are
less pronounced during the medieval period, especially in Europe and
neighboring regions, because of substantial similarities in social and
legal structures, the pervasiveness of the Christian Church, the
widespread use of Latin as an official language, frequent changes in
national boundaries, and intermarriages between royal families.  In
addition, the amount of genealogical material available for a given
area is much smaller for the medieval period than for the modern.  For
these reasons it is plausible at least initially to conduct
discussions in a single group (with no geographic subdivisions).


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
	vote soc.genealogy.medieval YES
	vote soc.genealogy.medieval NO


IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  You should receive an automatic acknowledgement of your vote
within three days.  If you do not, contact the votetaker about the
problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.
Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list.

Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid
vote.

Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI
forms are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed
directly from the voter to the votetaker.)

In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is
standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the
violator.

If you give anyone a copy of the CFV, it must be whole and unmodified.

When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

-- 
Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   [email protected]

From [email protected] Mon May 29 22:37:21 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.genealogy.computing,alt.genealogy
Subject: RESULT: soc.genealogy.medieval passes 334:18
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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				RESULT
	unmoderated group soc.genealogy.medieval passes 334:18

There were 334 YES votes and 18 NO votes, for a total of 352 valid votes.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES
and NO) votes.  There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO
votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
soc.genealogy.medieval	Genealogy in the period from roughly AD500 to AD1600.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 24 May 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Jonathan Kamens <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Don Stone
<[email protected]>.


CHARTER

The following charter was written by the proponent of the group.

soc.genealogy.medieval is for genealogy and family history discussion
among people researching individuals living during medieval times, as
well as related topics.  The primary focus of the group is likely to
be on Europe and neighboring regions, but postings about genealogy in
other areas during this time period are welcomed.  The medieval period
is loosely defined for the purposes of this group as the period
extending from the breakup of the (Western) Roman Empire until the
time public records (such as church, tax, and census records) relating
to the general population began to be kept.  This period would extend
roughly from AD 500 to AD 1600, but these limits are not intended to
exclude related topics of discussion lying outside of these
boundaries.

The group is open to anyone with an interest in genealogy in the time
period in question, including, but not limited to: royal and noble
descents, origins of American colonists, feudal descent of property,
value of pre-historical sources (such as sagas), adoption of surnames
and arms by families, source availability and reliability, and reviews
and correction of published works.

The group is open to discussions of other related topics falling
outside the boundaries of the period, such as the genealogy of modern
nobility and genealogical links to antiquity.  On the other hand,
postings of a general historical or cultural nature which are
completely unrelated to genealogy are not welcome even when falling
within the medieval period.


soc.genealogy.medieval Final Vote Ack

The lists of voters below are alphabetized in a case-insensitive
manner by E-mail address.  Voters whose last received vote was
"abstain" had no affect on the outcome of the vote and are not listed.

Voted Yes
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"WALT::CRAWFORD"@lds.loral.com
Philippe HOUDRY <[email protected]>
Ronald Branscombe <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Bruce MacHaffie <[email protected]>
James Howell <[email protected]>
"Eugene G. Stackhouse" <[email protected]>
Lucy/Joe <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Miss Barbara Murray <[email protected]>
[Default:blank]@Direct.CA
[email protected] (Martin van Keulen)
[email protected]
<[email protected]>
[email protected] (a.e.mossberg)
"Towster Alicia E." <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Harry Parsonage)
Amy Jerreat <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Alan Benson)
[email protected] (Alf Christophersen)
"Anne Livingston"  <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Annelise Anderson <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Anders M\vller)
[email protected] (Anna Buxton)
[email protected] (AnnRoyal)
Anthony Hofstee <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Brad Houghton )
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Henry Ashdon)
A Lady <[email protected]>
Grey Death <[email protected]>
Alvaro Villaveces Atuesta <[email protected]>
Brian Tompsett <[email protected]>
Bernard M Altenburg <[email protected]>
Geralyn Barry <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Roland L. Behunin)
William Benjey <[email protected]>
"A. Michael Berman" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (bettyz)
[email protected]
[email protected]
William Mills <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bobbie Verstraete)
[email protected]
"Carol J. Botteron" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (K Breeze)
[email protected] (Brian Randell)
Brian Tucholke <[email protected]>
Jan Bruell <[email protected]>
Brian Buydens <[email protected]>
[email protected]
komen <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Bill Wemple)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Richard J Field)
"Carl Hilton" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Christian Lueer)
[email protected] (Elizabeth Harris)
[email protected] (Collin Howell)
[email protected]
[email protected]
"Hubbard, Craig E" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Carl Juta)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Andre N. LeBlanc)
[email protected] (Craig Beeman)
Grace Rosenstiel <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Chris Grant)
[email protected]
david f addleton <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dan Rothschild)
"NANCY DANIELS, PLATTEVILLE, WI" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
"paula (p.j.) bellington" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Daryl N. Rudquist)
Dave Beames <[email protected]>
"David F. Reynolds" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (David A. Chapin)
[email protected]
Dwayne Brigham <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dennis W. Brown)
Andrew Deacon <[email protected]>
Dexter Edge <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Donald Estabrooks <[email protected]>
"dorcas.hendershott"  <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Douglas H. Quebbeman)
[email protected] (David Legge)
[email protected]
John Dulong - SLIP <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Don Yates <[email protected]>
ejnoomen <[email protected]>
"Mark L. Daganaar" <[email protected]>
Ellen Keyne Seebacher <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Einar Agersborg Mentzen)
Erich Schraer <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Lin Wright)
[email protected] (Lisbeth Andersson)
Cathy Gearhart <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Becky Bonner)
[email protected] (Frans F.J. Faase)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Frank Mitchell)
[email protected] (Frans van.Geene)
H George Friedman <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Helen Gbala <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Greg Howearth)
[email protected] (G.M. Hope)
[email protected] (Gordon Andrews)
[email protected]
Bert Collis <[email protected]>
Henry Soszynski <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Hans Vappula)
[email protected] (Robert Craig Harman)
Halldor Arnason <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (George Waller)
"Harry W. Duckworth" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Haugland, Helge)
Virginia E Hench <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
Joshua Brandon Holden <[email protected]>
"Rick Holt" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Hugh <[email protected]>
[email protected] (H A M Van Helvoort +1  35  87 4393)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ian King)
[email protected] (Iain G. Old)
[email protected]
"JOHN AKINS JR." <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Jim Angel)
[email protected] (John H. Camp)
Jim Coburn <[email protected]>
Joanne Cook <[email protected]>
[email protected] (John Winter)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (J. Eric Townsend)
"Jacob G. Gehring" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (John Evans)
JKliese -------- #7803 <[email protected]>
Joanna Lynn Kohlbus <[email protected]>
[email protected] (James D. Martin)
Jody Behrbaum <[email protected]>
Joe St Sauver <[email protected]>
[email protected] (John Buck Jr)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Stryker)
Jonboy <[email protected]>
[email protected] (J.C.T. Pool)
Jeff Richards <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Judi Sharp)
Jim Smith <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Jim Yanni <[email protected]>
K Edge <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Kaare Lie)
Kaj de Malachowo Malachowski <KAJM%[email protected]>
David Kanouse <[email protected]>
Karen Isaacson <[email protected]>
Kathleen Much <[email protected]>
[email protected] (H. Keith Barkes)
Kate the Short <[email protected]>
[email protected]
<[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dirk Korbee)
KAREN CUSHING <[email protected]>
Keith Wolf <[email protected]>
MacAoidh <[email protected]>
Gordon Lane <[email protected]>
Linda Perry <[email protected]>
"Larry MacNeill" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Larry Blackman)
[email protected] (Larry Zimmerman)
[email protected]
Matthias Dietz-Lenssen <[email protected]>
Brian Leverich <[email protected]>
Liam Mc Faul <[email protected]>
" Dara Middleton " <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Lori Lucas <[email protected]>
Elizabeth Engle <[email protected]>
Lori Boggs <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Louis Reitzammer)
[email protected]
"Luis A. Rodriguez"  <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Richard Mack)
[email protected] (Mapalmer)
[email protected] (Marc Jolicoeur)
[email protected] (MartieKr)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Marnix A. van_Ammers)
Bob McCaffrey <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dan McDonald)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Marjorie Fulmer)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Madeleine E. Mitchell)
[email protected] (Margaret J. Olson)
[email protected] (Michael J. Ward)
[email protected] (Monte Smith)
"Dahrl E. Moore" <[email protected]>
"Mark Stearns" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (MWalter)
[email protected] (Bruce A Mycroft)
[email protected] (David Naegle)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Nigel Allen)
[email protected] (Emmanuel Neuville)
[email protected] (Noel Ashman)
[email protected] (Jan Erik Odegard)
Owen Easterbrook <[email protected]>
Edward C Olson <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Otto Jorgensen)
Otto Sillius <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Gerry Palo <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Pat Chesney)
[email protected]
Pat Boren <[email protected]>
[email protected] (phil reed)
[email protected]
"Peter F. Klok" <[email protected]>
Peggy Hall <[email protected]>
"GARY PHOENIX, HONEYWELL IAC 602.789.4129" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (John Pimentel)
[email protected] (Peter Leslie)
"Phil Marris" <[email protected]>
Paul Michals <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Pegasus)
Peter Alefounder <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Pete Vandegrift)
[email protected]
"Rich Bergeron" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
"Melody L. Reynolds (607) 974-4476" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Greg Hughes)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Rik Vigeland)
"R. Leutner" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Robert L. Ward)
[email protected] (Ruth M. Sylte)
[email protected] (Robert D. Jaccaud)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Ron Doucette <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Ronald E. Smith)
[email protected] (Mike - Marcia Rothman)
[email protected] (Roy Leggitt)
[email protected] (Richard Somer)
Russell=Schneider%RUB%[email protected]
S Riddle <[email protected]>
[email protected] (SANDRA JOHNSON)
Bruce Tindall <[email protected]>
Ruth Satterthwaite <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Steve Wright)
[email protected] (Scott G. Dickinson)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Robert S. Shaw)
[email protected]
Shirley denBroeder <[email protected]>
Sheilah Horman <[email protected]>
[email protected] (John D. Sissom)
Scott McGee <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Steven C. Perkins)
[email protected] (H\vard Moe)
"Paul D. Stachour" <[email protected]>
"Michael D. Stamm" <[email protected]>
Steve Wheatley <[email protected]>
"Stig R Kristiansen" <[email protected]>
"DON STONE" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Kim Straight 719-599-1585 <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Stu Labovitz)
[email protected] (Stuart Wright)
[email protected] (Susan King)
[email protected] (BERTELOOT JOHAN)
[email protected] (Susan Young)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Terry Brown)
[email protected] (Todd A. Farmerie)
Tom Allred <[email protected]>
Thorleif Christoffer Owe <[email protected]>
[email protected] (MR ROBERT S DUGGAN, JR.)
[email protected]
Torleif Haug|deg}rd <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Triske)
[email protected]
[email protected] (VIDAR OEVERLIE)
Vivienne Dunstan <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Vic Legerton)
[email protected] (Vaughn Rhoden)
[email protected] (Wally Jansen)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Wes Jester)
"Wm (Bill) Lemay" <[email protected]>
Wicking Denis <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Al Williams)
Will Sulzner <[email protected]>
Wim Lamotte <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Bill Frew)
John Wolcott <[email protected]>
[email protected]
"William A. Reitwiesner" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Wanda Story)
[email protected]
[email protected] (MR STEVE D ALLEN)
[email protected] (Phil Stringer)

Voted No
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Vincent Archer <[email protected]>
"David B. Boles" <[email protected]>
Burt N Holzman <[email protected]>
Michiel Wijers <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (David Chapin)
Jeff Murphy <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (John R. MacWilliamson)
[email protected] (David Maurice)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ryan Waldron)
[email protected]
Smarasderagd <[email protected]>
Dwight Brown <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dwight Brown)
Tom Perrett <[email protected]>
Risto Widenius <[email protected]>

 
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