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From [email protected] Mon Jul 24 18:08:35 1995
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From: [email protected] (John M. Grohol)
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Subject: RFD: soc.support.depression.*
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
           unmoderated group soc.support.depression.crisis
           unmoderated group soc.support.depression.family
            unmoderated group soc.support.depression.manic
            unmoderated group soc.support.depression.misc
          unmoderated group soc.support.depression.seasonal
          unmoderated group soc.support.depression.treatment

   Note:  Discussion on this RFD should occur only
          in news.groups, as the Guidelines suggest.

Summary:
-------
The following new newsgroups are proposed in this RFD:

  soc.support.depression.crisis     Personal crisis situations.
  soc.support.depression.family     Coping with depressed people.
  soc.support.depression.manic      Bipolar/manic-depression.
  soc.support.depression.misc       Depression and mood disorders.
  soc.support.depression.seasonal   Seasonal affective disorder.
  soc.support.depression.treatment  Treatments of depression.


Introduction:
------------
Alt.support.depression has enjoyed a large and faithful following since
its inception over 2 years ago. This is probably not surprising since
anywhere from 5 to 25% of adults will experience either depression or
a related mood disorder in their lifetime. This is one of the most
commonly diagnosed, treated, and misunderstood of mental disorders
today. Alt.support.depression has illustrated the tremendous success
of online support groups on the Internet.

Unfortunately, since it began, traffic on alt.support.depression has
outgrown the group; it now averages anywhere from 150-300 new messages
per day. In an effort to reduce traffic on alt.support.depression and
provide a greater propegation for support of this disorder, this
proposal has been put together. After some initial discussion on
alt.support.depression, it is being made clear that this proposal in
no way seeks to alter the basic make-up, content, or organization of
the present newsgroup. None of the proposed groups would seek to
replace or delete the existing alt.support.depression.* groups. Instead,
it is proposed that these groups would naturally co-exist with one
another; participants can choose from among them.

A survey of existing topics in the three newsgroups, alt.support.depression,
alt.support.depression.manic, and alt.support.depression.seasonal that
appeared on my newsreader over a period of two weeks (in the summer;
fall & winter traffic would be expected to be greater) was conducted.

No soc.support.depression.chat or soc.support.depression.discussion
newsgroup is being proposed in this RFD because of the difficulty of
the distinction necessary between supportive posts to one another
and topics of a purely "chatting" nature.


Proposed New Groups:
-------------------
Name: soc.support.depression.crisis (unmoderated)

Description: Personal crisis situations.

Rationale: In the survey, 7-12% of all articles were
           related to individuals seeking immediate sorts of
           help and tips for relief from their depression and
           suicidal feelings. While some individuals can
           handle the constant requests for help, others
           have expressed some difficulty in seeing them
           every day. This newsgroup would set aside a specific
           newsgroup for those individuals in need of immediate
           support.

           Although this group is being initially proposed as
           *unmoderated*, I believe that some sort of
           robomoderation to eliminate crossposting and flames
           would be entirely appropriate for this newsgroup.
           This can be discussed in the first RFD and if someone
           has the capability and willingness to set this up,
           the RFD can be changed to reflect this. Human
           moderation may not be preferred given the time lag
           of such a system.

Charter:   For helping those individuals suffering from
           severe depressive and suicidal feelings who are
           seeking immediate responses in a personal crisis
           situation. Only articles asking for help or those
           offering immediate support can be posted here.

           All other articles, such as flames, commercial
           postings, or discussions on individuals seeking help,
           are strictly prohibited. Crossposting is also
           highly discouraged.
-------------------
Name: soc.support.depression.family (unmoderated)

Description: Coping with depressed people.

Rationale: Recent discussions have surfaced on alt.support.depression
           about the lack of a discussion area for spouses and other
           family members of how to deal with their loved ones
           being depressed. Depression often takes an exacting
           yet overlooked toll on significant others and family
           systems, as well as friends. This support group would
           give these individuals an area in which to freely
           exchange mutual types of feelings and ideas on
           how to cope with the depressed person in their lives.

           Like another newsgroup that is being
           proposed in this RFD (soc.support.depression.treatment),
           this group is being proposed in the soc.support hierarchy
           rather than under the alt.support hierarchy to
           have better propegation of this important topic.

Charter:   For the discussion of coping with family members,
           spouses, or friends who are depressed. Topics
           appropriate for this newsgroup would be
           the discussion of coping skills and exchanging
           of ideas and feelings about how individuals
           deal with significant others in their lives who
           are suffering from any type of depressive disorder.
           Commercial postings of any type are prohibited
           from this newsgroup, and crossposting to other
           soc.support.depression.* groups is discouraged.
           As with all soc.support newsgroups, flames are
           not welcome in this group as well.
-------------------
Name: soc.support.depression.manic (unmoderated)

Description: Bipolar/manic-depression.

Rationale: To better propegate the support discussion of
           those individuals suffering from this specific
           sub-type of depression. The current newsgroup
           receives poor propegation, and yet this topic
           is a logical branch from the proposed
           soc.support.depression.* hierarchy. It is a
           different enough disorder, however, to make
           individuals suffering from it to be less able
           to relate well to those suffering from only
           major depressive disorder. Manic-depression is
           used, rather than the more up-to-date term,
           bipolar, since it is more recognizable to most
           people and parallels the existing alt group.

Charter:   For the discussion of bipolar disorder (also
           known as manic-depression), which is characterized
           by specific and discrete episodes of depression
           and mania (an excess of energy & grandiosity of
           mood and self). This newsgroup is being proposed
           not to replace the current alt.support.depression.manic,
           but as a logical and better-propegated complement to it.
           Commerical postings are specifically prohibited.
-------------------
Name: soc.support.depression.misc (unmoderated)

Description: Depression and mood disorders.

Rationale: In the survey, nearly 60-65% of all posts were
           directly related to the supportive discussion
           of depression and related mood disorders. This
           group is being proposed to increase propegation
           of this topic and allow for better organization
           of this topic under the soc.support.* hierarchy.

Charter:   For the discussion of depression and other
           serious mood disorders (such as dysthymic disorder).
           This newsgroup is being proposed not to replace
           the current alt.support.depression, but rather as
           a complement to it. Crossposting between the
           newsgroups can and will occur. Commerical postings
           of any sort are strictly prohibited. This newsgroup
           would also be for the discussion area for any other
           newsgroup proposed which did not pass its vote.
-------------------
Name: soc.support.depression.seasonal (unmoderated)

Description: Seasonal affective disorder.

Rationale: To better propegate the support discussion of
           those individuals suffering from this specific
           sub-type of depression. The current newsgroup
           receives poor propegation, and yet this topic
           is a logical branch from the proposed
           soc.support.depression.* hierarchy. It is a
           different enough disorder, however, to make
           individuals suffering from it to be less able
           to relate well to those suffering from only
           major depressive disorder.

Charter:   For the discussion of seasonal affective disorder
           (SAD), which is a sub-type of depression that
           is characterized by a major depressive episode
           occurring only during the change of or throughout
           specific seasons (e.g.- depression experienced
           only in the winter months in the north). This
           newsgroup is being proposed not to replace the
           current alt.support.depression.seasonal, but as
           a logical and better-propegated complement to it.
           Commerical postings are specifically prohibited.
-------------------
Name: soc.support.depression.treatment (unmoderated)

Description: Treatments of depression.

Rationale: One of the most popular topics in a.s.d., accounting
           for approximately 25-30% of all the articles posted.
           Since medication and psychotherapy are both important
           aspects of most people's treatment for depression,
           no distinction is made here between the two. If, in the
           future, it becomes apparent that individual newsgroups
           for both are warranted, they can be created in
           this hierarchy.

Charter:   For the discussion of various treatment options
           of depression, whether it is psychotherapy,
           medication, alternative therapies, home-made
           remedies, or some combination of them. Any topic
           that offers solutions and options for the treatment
           of depression is appropriate here. Discussion of
           personal experiences, research, and professional
           opinions of the treatment of depression would also
           be appropriate. Advocacy on a particular treatment
           method is discouraged or should only be done in
           a nonjudgmental and supportive style.  Out-and-out
           debates or arguments on treatment options as well as
           commercial postings of any sort are not appropriate
           nor allowed in this newsgroup.
-------------------
Summary:
-------
Alt.support.depression is a great and useful newsgroup. However,
it does not reach a lot of people still (because of it's location
in the alt hierarchy) and it has quickly become overwhelmed by
articles as the growth of the Internet (and Usenet in particular)
has exploded in recent months. Depression is a serious and common
disorder which deserves better propegation and better organization
than currently available in alt. If most of the proposed newsgroups
pass, not only will alt.support.depression be made more easily
readable in the near future, but all the newsgroups will enjoy
a more manageable number of articles. This proposal has
taken pains to be as simple and as logical as possible, including
only the smallest number of newsgroups possible to better organize
and propegate this topic.

Notes on this RFD
-----------------
       This 1st RFD is being posted on July 18, 1995
                  to the following groups:
                    news.groups
                    news.announce.newgroups
                    sci.psychology.announce
                    sci.psychology.misc
                    alt.support.depression
                    alt.support.depression.manic
                    alt.support.depression.seasonal
                    alt.support

 and may be  freely  distributed  to  any other groups or
 mailing lists  where it  might be of relevance.   Please
 leave the Followup-To: header intact.   Persons not able
 to communicate or post directly to Usenet may mail their
 comments or questions to:    [email protected]

     All pertinent  discussion relating to this  RFD
     should   take  place   on   news.groups,  hence
     follow-ups have been directed there. I strongly
     urge readers to  limit their discussion on this
     RFD  to   news.groups,  as  is  the  recognized
     convention.

 Thanks go out to Daniel Hartung, and many others,
 who made comments on earlier versions of this RFD.


Call for Votes
--------------
The CFV is expected to be posted in approximately 30 days,
               on or around August 14, 1995.
The  CFV  is expected to be conducted  by  an independent
vote-taker, arranged through the UVV.     The CFV will be
sent out to the same newsgroups (listed above) as the RFD
was sent to. Details on voting will be posted in the CFV.

From [email protected] Tue Sep  5 15:35:41 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Michael Handler)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.psychology.announce,sci.psychology.misc,alt.support.depression,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depression.seasonal,alt.support
Subject: CFV: soc.support.depression.* new hierarchy
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
           unmoderated group soc.support.depression.crisis
           unmoderated group soc.support.depression.family
            unmoderated group soc.support.depression.manic
            unmoderated group soc.support.depression.misc
          unmoderated group soc.support.depression.seasonal
          unmoderated group soc.support.depression.treatment

Newsgroups line:
soc.support.depression.crisis	Personal crisis situations.
soc.support.depression.family	Coping with depressed people.
soc.support.depression.manic	Bipolar/manic-depression.
soc.support.depression.misc	Depression and mood disorders.
soc.support.depression.seasonal	Seasonal affective disorder.
soc.support.depression.treatment	Treatments of depression.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Sep 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party and a member of the
Usenet Volunteer Votetakers [UVV]. For questions about the vote, the
voting process, or voting mechanics, please contact Michael Handler
<[email protected]>. If you have any other questions about this
proposal, please contact the proponent for this proposal, John M. Grohol
<[email protected]>.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.crisis

In the survey, 7-12% of all articles were related to individuals
seeking immediate sorts of help and tips for relief from their
depression and suicidal feelings. While some individuals can handle
the constant requests for help, others have expressed some difficulty
in seeing them every day. This newsgroup would set aside a specific
newsgroup for those individuals in need of immediate support.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.family

Recent discussions have surfaced on alt.support.depression about the
lack of a discussion area for spouses and other family members of how
to deal with their loved ones being depressed. Depression often takes
an exacting yet overlooked toll on significant others and family
systems, as well as friends. This support group would give these
individuals an area in which to freely exchange mutual types of
feelings and ideas on how to cope with the depressed person in their
lives.

Like another newsgroup that is being proposed in this RFD
(soc.support.depression.treatment), this group is being proposed in
the soc.support hierarchy rather than under the alt.support hierarchy
to have better propagation of this important topic.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.manic

To better propagate the support discussion of those individuals
suffering from this specific sub-type of depression. The current
newsgroup receives poor propagation, and yet this topic is a logical
branch from the proposed soc.support.depression.* hierarchy. It is a
different enough disorder, however, to make individuals suffering from
it to be less able to relate well to those suffering from only major
depressive disorder. Manic-depression is used, rather than the more
up-to-date term, bipolar, since it is more recognizable to most people
and parallels the existing alt group.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.misc

In the survey, nearly 60-65% of all posts were directly related to the
supportive discussion of depression and related mood disorders. This
group is being proposed to increase propagation of this topic and
allow for better organization of this topic under the soc.support.*
hierarchy.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.seasonal

To better propagate the support discussion of those individuals
suffering from this specific sub-type of depression. The current
newsgroup receives poor propagation, and yet this topic is a logical
branch from the proposed soc.support.depression.* hierarchy. It is a
different enough disorder, however, to make individuals suffering from
it to be less able to relate well to those suffering from only major
depressive disorder.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.treatment

One of the most popular topics in a.s.d., accounting for approximately
25-30% of all the articles posted.  Since medication and psychotherapy
are both important aspects of most people's treatment for depression,
no distinction is made here between the two. If, in the future, it
becomes apparent that individual newsgroups for both are warranted,
they can be created in this hierarchy.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.crisis

For helping those individuals suffering from severe depressive and
suicidal feelings who are seeking immediate responses in a personal
crisis situation. Only articles asking for help or those offering
immediate support can be posted here.

All other articles, such as flames, commercial postings, or
discussions on individuals seeking help, are strictly
prohibited. Crossposting is also highly discouraged.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.family

For the discussion of coping with family members, spouses, or friends
who are depressed. Topics appropriate for this newsgroup would be the
discussion of coping skills and exchanging of ideas and feelings about
how individuals deal with significant others in their lives who are
suffering from any type of depressive disorder.  Commercial postings
of any type are prohibited from this newsgroup, and crossposting to
other soc.support.depression.* groups is discouraged.  As with all
soc.support newsgroups, flames are not welcome in this group as well.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.manic

For the discussion of bipolar disorder (also known as
manic-depression), which is characterized by specific and discrete
episodes of depression and mania (an excess of energy & grandiosity of
mood and self). This newsgroup is being proposed not to replace the
current alt.support.depression.manic, but as a logical and
better-propagated complement to it.  Commercial postings are
specifically prohibited.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.misc

For the discussion of depression and other serious mood disorders
(such as dysthymic disorder).  This newsgroup is being proposed not to
replace the current alt.support.depression, but rather as a complement
to it. Crossposting between the newsgroups can and will
occur. Commercial postings of any sort are strictly prohibited. This
newsgroup would also be for the discussion area for any other
newsgroup proposed which did not pass its vote.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.seasonal

For the discussion of seasonal affective disorder (SAD), which is a
sub-type of depression that is characterized by a major depressive
episode occurring only during the change of or throughout specific
seasons (e.g.- depression experienced only in the winter months in the
north). This newsgroup is being proposed not to replace the current
alt.support.depression.seasonal, but as a logical and
better-propagated complement to it.  Commercial postings are
specifically prohibited.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.treatment

For the discussion of various treatment options of depression, whether
it is psychotherapy, medication, alternative therapies, home-made
remedies, or some combination of them. Any topic that offers solutions
and options for the treatment of depression is appropriate
here. Discussion of personal experiences, research, and professional
opinions of the treatment of depression would also be
appropriate. Advocacy on a particular treatment method is discouraged
or should only be done in a nonjudgmental and supportive style.
Out-and-out debates or arguments on treatment options as well as
commercial postings of any sort are not appropriate nor allowed in
this newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

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From [email protected] Tue Sep 19 13:50:53 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Michael Handler)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.psychology.announce,sci.psychology.misc,alt.support.depression,alt.support.depression.manic,alt.support.depression.seasonal,alt.support
Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.support.depression.* new hierarchy
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7542 news.groups:167720 sci.psychology.announce:104 sci.psychology.misc:1299 alt.support.depression:54275 alt.support.depression.manic:1421 alt.support.depression.seasonal:312 alt.support:9068

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
           unmoderated group soc.support.depression.crisis
           unmoderated group soc.support.depression.family
            unmoderated group soc.support.depression.manic
            unmoderated group soc.support.depression.misc
          unmoderated group soc.support.depression.seasonal
          unmoderated group soc.support.depression.treatment

Newsgroups line:
soc.support.depression.crisis	Personal crisis situations.
soc.support.depression.family	Coping with depressed people.
soc.support.depression.manic	Bipolar/manic-depression.
soc.support.depression.misc	Depression and mood disorders.
soc.support.depression.seasonal	Seasonal affective disorder.
soc.support.depression.treatment	Treatments of depression.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Sep 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party and a member of the
Usenet Volunteer Votetakers [UVV]. For questions about the vote, the
voting process, or voting mechanics, please contact Michael Handler
<[email protected]>. If you have any other questions about this
proposal, please contact the proponent for this proposal, John M. Grohol
<[email protected]>.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.crisis

In the survey, 7-12% of all articles were related to individuals
seeking immediate sorts of help and tips for relief from their
depression and suicidal feelings. While some individuals can handle
the constant requests for help, others have expressed some difficulty
in seeing them every day. This newsgroup would set aside a specific
newsgroup for those individuals in need of immediate support.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.family

Recent discussions have surfaced on alt.support.depression about the
lack of a discussion area for spouses and other family members of how
to deal with their loved ones being depressed. Depression often takes
an exacting yet overlooked toll on significant others and family
systems, as well as friends. This support group would give these
individuals an area in which to freely exchange mutual types of
feelings and ideas on how to cope with the depressed person in their
lives.

Like another newsgroup that is being proposed in this RFD
(soc.support.depression.treatment), this group is being proposed in
the soc.support hierarchy rather than under the alt.support hierarchy
to have better propagation of this important topic.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.manic

To better propagate the support discussion of those individuals
suffering from this specific sub-type of depression. The current
newsgroup receives poor propagation, and yet this topic is a logical
branch from the proposed soc.support.depression.* hierarchy. It is a
different enough disorder, however, to make individuals suffering from
it to be less able to relate well to those suffering from only major
depressive disorder. Manic-depression is used, rather than the more
up-to-date term, bipolar, since it is more recognizable to most people
and parallels the existing alt group.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.misc

In the survey, nearly 60-65% of all posts were directly related to the
supportive discussion of depression and related mood disorders. This
group is being proposed to increase propagation of this topic and
allow for better organization of this topic under the soc.support.*
hierarchy.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.seasonal

To better propagate the support discussion of those individuals
suffering from this specific sub-type of depression. The current
newsgroup receives poor propagation, and yet this topic is a logical
branch from the proposed soc.support.depression.* hierarchy. It is a
different enough disorder, however, to make individuals suffering from
it to be less able to relate well to those suffering from only major
depressive disorder.

RATIONALE: soc.support.depression.treatment

One of the most popular topics in a.s.d., accounting for approximately
25-30% of all the articles posted.  Since medication and psychotherapy
are both important aspects of most people's treatment for depression,
no distinction is made here between the two. If, in the future, it
becomes apparent that individual newsgroups for both are warranted,
they can be created in this hierarchy.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.crisis

For helping those individuals suffering from severe depressive and
suicidal feelings who are seeking immediate responses in a personal
crisis situation. Only articles asking for help or those offering
immediate support can be posted here.

All other articles, such as flames, commercial postings, or
discussions on individuals seeking help, are strictly
prohibited. Crossposting is also highly discouraged.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.family

For the discussion of coping with family members, spouses, or friends
who are depressed. Topics appropriate for this newsgroup would be the
discussion of coping skills and exchanging of ideas and feelings about
how individuals deal with significant others in their lives who are
suffering from any type of depressive disorder.  Commercial postings
of any type are prohibited from this newsgroup, and crossposting to
other soc.support.depression.* groups is discouraged.  As with all
soc.support newsgroups, flames are not welcome in this group as well.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.manic

For the discussion of bipolar disorder (also known as
manic-depression), which is characterized by specific and discrete
episodes of depression and mania (an excess of energy & grandiosity of
mood and self). This newsgroup is being proposed not to replace the
current alt.support.depression.manic, but as a logical and
better-propagated complement to it.  Commercial postings are
specifically prohibited.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.misc

For the discussion of depression and other serious mood disorders
(such as dysthymic disorder).  This newsgroup is being proposed not to
replace the current alt.support.depression, but rather as a complement
to it. Crossposting between the newsgroups can and will
occur. Commercial postings of any sort are strictly prohibited. This
newsgroup would also be for the discussion area for any other
newsgroup proposed which did not pass its vote.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.seasonal

For the discussion of seasonal affective disorder (SAD), which is a
sub-type of depression that is characterized by a major depressive
episode occurring only during the change of or throughout specific
seasons (e.g.- depression experienced only in the winter months in the
north). This newsgroup is being proposed not to replace the current
alt.support.depression.seasonal, but as a logical and
better-propagated complement to it.  Commercial postings are
specifically prohibited.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.treatment

For the discussion of various treatment options of depression, whether
it is psychotherapy, medication, alternative therapies, home-made
remedies, or some combination of them. Any topic that offers solutions
and options for the treatment of depression is appropriate
here. Discussion of personal experiences, research, and professional
opinions of the treatment of depression would also be
appropriate. Advocacy on a particular treatment method is discouraged
or should only be done in a nonjudgmental and supportive style.
Out-and-out debates or arguments on treatment options as well as
commercial postings of any sort are not appropriate nor allowed in
this newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

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Subject: RESULT: soc.support.depression.* new hierarchy: all groups pass
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                                RESULT
    unmoderated group soc.support.depression.crisis passes 129:29
    unmoderated group soc.support.depression.family passes 137:22
     unmoderated group soc.support.depression.manic passes 127:33
     unmoderated group soc.support.depression.misc passes 136:25
   unmoderated group soc.support.depression.seasonal passes 126:24
   unmoderated group soc.support.depression.treatment passes 140:24

soc.support.depression.{crisis,family,manic,misc,seasonal,treatment}
results - 170 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 129   28 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.support.depression.crisis
 137   22 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.support.depression.family
 127   23 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.support.depression.manic
 136   25 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.support.depression.misc
 126   24 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.support.depression.seasonal
 140   24 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : soc.support.depression.treatment
   3 invalid votes

  soc.support.depression.crisis passed on Tue Sep 26 06:02:56 1995
  soc.support.depression.family passed on Sat Sep 23 13:50:29 1995
  soc.support.depression.manic passed on Mon Sep 25 23:15:34 1995
  soc.support.depression.misc passed on Sun Sep 24 01:59:45 1995
  soc.support.depression.seasonal passed on Tue Sep 26 05:55:27 1995
  soc.support.depression.treatment passed on Sat Sep 23 23:37:28 1995

Newsgroups lines:
soc.support.depression.crisis	Personal crisis situations.
soc.support.depression.family	Coping with depressed people.
soc.support.depression.manic	Bipolar/manic-depression.
soc.support.depression.misc	Depression and mood disorders.
soc.support.depression.seasonal	Seasonal affective disorder.
soc.support.depression.treatment	Treatments of depression.

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proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

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Votetaker: Michael Handler <[email protected]>

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.crisis

For helping those individuals suffering from severe depressive and
suicidal feelings who are seeking immediate responses in a personal
crisis situation. Only articles asking for help or those offering
immediate support can be posted here.

All other articles, such as flames, commercial postings, or
discussions on individuals seeking help, are strictly
prohibited. Crossposting is also highly discouraged.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.family

For the discussion of coping with family members, spouses, or friends
who are depressed. Topics appropriate for this newsgroup would be the
discussion of coping skills and exchanging of ideas and feelings about
how individuals deal with significant others in their lives who are
suffering from any type of depressive disorder.  Commercial postings
of any type are prohibited from this newsgroup, and crossposting to
other soc.support.depression.* groups is discouraged.  As with all
soc.support newsgroups, flames are not welcome in this group as well.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.manic

For the discussion of bipolar disorder (also known as
manic-depression), which is characterized by specific and discrete
episodes of depression and mania (an excess of energy & grandiosity of
mood and self). This newsgroup is being proposed not to replace the
current alt.support.depression.manic, but as a logical and
better-propagated complement to it.  Commercial postings are
specifically prohibited.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.misc

For the discussion of depression and other serious mood disorders
(such as dysthymic disorder).  This newsgroup is being proposed not to
replace the current alt.support.depression, but rather as a complement
to it. Crossposting between the newsgroups can and will
occur. Commercial postings of any sort are strictly prohibited. This
newsgroup would also be for the discussion area for any other
newsgroup proposed which did not pass its vote.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.seasonal

For the discussion of seasonal affective disorder (SAD), which is a
sub-type of depression that is characterized by a major depressive
episode occurring only during the change of or throughout specific
seasons (e.g.- depression experienced only in the winter months in the
north). This newsgroup is being proposed not to replace the current
alt.support.depression.seasonal, but as a logical and
better-propagated complement to it.  Commercial postings are
specifically prohibited.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: soc.support.depression.treatment

For the discussion of various treatment options of depression, whether
it is psychotherapy, medication, alternative therapies, home-made
remedies, or some combination of them. Any topic that offers solutions
and options for the treatment of depression is appropriate
here. Discussion of personal experiences, research, and professional
opinions of the treatment of depression would also be
appropriate. Advocacy on a particular treatment method is discouraged
or should only be done in a nonjudgmental and supportive style.
Out-and-out debates or arguments on treatment options as well as
commercial postings of any sort are not appropriate nor allowed in
this newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

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soc.support.depression.{crisis,family,manic,misc,seasonal,treatment} Final Vote Ack


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                                        soc.support.depression.manic -----+|||
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                                       soc.support.depression.crisis ---+|||||
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wakelyn@pinn.net                                            Tom Wakelyn YYYNYY
wand@ccs.neu.edu                                          Mitchell Wand YYYYYY
whitisa@onramp.net                                       Sandra Whiting YYYYYY
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi                                  Risto Widenius NNNNNN
WitsEndReq@aol.com                                          Mark Buford YYYYYY
xanthian@qualcomm.com                                   Kent Paul Dolan YYYYYY
xxx@shadow.net                                              Mike Porter YYYYYY
yaffa@actcom.co.il                                        Yaffa Sassoon YYYYYY


Votes in error
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browng@nicco.sscnet.ucla.edu                                        Gary Brown
   ! No ballot
crindock@epix.net
   ! No ballot
Khatayes@aol.com                                              Kathleen Collins
   ! No vote statement in message

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