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Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.apps.softimage
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                           REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
            unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.softimage

Description:  SOFTIMAGE applications and products.

RATIONALE

    With the Wavefront and Alias newsgroups in existence for some time, the
    lack of a newsgroup for SOFTIMAGE applications is a curious hole in the
    trio of high-end modeling/animation/rendering suites.  Given the highly
    complex nature of these beasts, learning how to effectively use (or in
    some cases find!) the features of this package would be greatly aided
    with a forum for animators to get together and discuss tips and
    problems.

CHARTER

    comp.graphics.apps.softimage is a forum for the discussion of SOFTIMAGE
    applications -- these include, but are not limited to, Eddie, Creative
    Environment, Toonz, and so on.

    Discussion may include technical questions, tips, problems, product
    queries and ordering information, and announcement of new products.
    Questions concerning particular computing systems should be directed to
    the appropriate comp.sys.* newsgroups.  The posting of binaries is
    discouraged; ftp sites are much preferred.

PPROPOSAL PROCESS

    For those unfamiliar with the process of newsgroup proposal, this is the
    first RFD (Request For Discussion) for this newsgroup.  After the
    proponents of this group achieve consensus on the name, location and
    charter of this group, and when 21 days have passed from the date of
    the first RFD, it may go on to CFV (Call For Votes), which will last
    for another three weeks or so.  The newsgroup will be created if there
    are at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of the votes are
    YES.

    At this stage in the process we're looking for flaws in the proposal
    and are trying to get concensus about what the final ballot will be.
    If you have any reservations at all, or any chages to suggest, now is
    the time to voice your opinion.

    Follow-ups to this article should go to news.groups, and email should
    go to [email protected].

                                        Steve 

From [email protected] Tue Jun  6 00:08:03 1995
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Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.apps.softimage
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                           REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
            unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.softimage

Description:  SOFTIMAGE applications and products.

RATIONALE

    With the Wavefront and Alias newsgroups in existence for some time, the
    lack of a newsgroup for SOFTIMAGE applications is a curious hole in the
    trio of high-end modeling/animation/rendering suites.  Given the highly
    complex nature of these beasts, learning how to effectively use (or in
    some cases find!) the features of this package would be greatly aided
    with a forum for animators to get together and discuss tips and
    problems.

CHARTER

    comp.graphics.apps.softimage is a forum for the discussion of SOFTIMAGE
    applications -- these include, but are not limited to, Eddie, Creative
    Environment, Toonz, and so on.

    Discussion may include technical questions, tips, problems, product
    queries and ordering information, and announcement of new products.
    Questions concerning particular computing systems should be directed to
    the appropriate comp.sys.* newsgroups.  The posting of binaries is
    discouraged; ftp sites are much preferred.

PPROPOSAL PROCESS

    For those unfamiliar with the process of newsgroup proposal, this is the
    first RFD (Request For Discussion) for this newsgroup.  After the
    proponents of this group achieve consensus on the name, location and
    charter of this group, and when 21 days have passed from the date of
    the first RFD, it may go on to CFV (Call For Votes), which will last
    for another three weeks or so.  The newsgroup will be created if there
    are at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of the votes are
    YES.

    At this stage in the process we're looking for flaws in the proposal
    and are trying to get concensus about what the final ballot will be.
    If you have any reservations at all, or any chages to suggest, now is
    the time to voice your opinion.

    Follow-ups to this article should go to news.groups, and email should
    go to [email protected].

                                        Steve 

From [email protected] Mon Jul 24 18:08:53 1995
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.animation,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.graphics.apps.alias,comp.graphics.apps.wavefront
Subject: CFV: comp.graphics.apps.softimage
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Date: 19 Jul 1995 22:54:22 -0000
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
           unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.softimage

Newsgroups line:
comp.graphics.apps.softimage	Softimage applications and products.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Aug 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine .  For questions about the proposed
group contact Steve Hollasch .

CHARTER

	comp.graphics.apps.softimage is a forum for the discussion of SOFTIMAGE
	applications.  These include, but are not limited to, Eddie, Creative
	Environment, Toonz, and so on.

	Discussion may include technical questions, tips, problems, product
	queries and ordering information, and SOFTIMAGE product announcements.
	Questions concerning particular computing systems should be directed to
	the appropriate comp.sys.* newsgroups.  The posting of binaries is
	discouraged; ftp sites are much preferred for this form of data.

RATIONALE

	With the Wavefront and Alias newsgroups in existence for some time, the
	lack of a newsgroup for SOFTIMAGE applications is a curious hole in the
	trio of high-end modeling/animation/rendering suites.  Given the highly
	complex nature of these applications, learning how to effectively use
	(or in some cases find!) the features of this package would be greatly
	aided with a forum for animators and modelers to get together and
	discuss tips and problems.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

It would be apprciated by the votetaker if you did NOT forward the entire
CFV back; this mail is archived and I really don't need several hundred
copies of the CFV on my system.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.graphics.apps.softimage
      I vote NO on comp.graphics.apps.softimage

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] Fri Aug 11 14:51:53 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.animation,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.graphics.apps.alias,comp.graphics.apps.wavefront
Subject: RESULT: comp.graphics.apps.softimage passes 127:23
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                                RESULT
         unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.softimage passes 127:23

There were 127 YES votes and 23 NO votes, for a total of 150 valid votes.
There were 2 abstains and 2 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.graphics.apps.softimage    Softimage applications and products.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 9 Aug 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine .  For questions about the proposed
group contact Steve Hollasch .

CHARTER

        comp.graphics.apps.softimage is a forum for the discussion of SOFTIMAGE
        applications.  These include, but are not limited to, Eddie, Creative
        Environment, Toonz, and so on.

        Discussion may include technical questions, tips, problems, product
        queries and ordering information, and SOFTIMAGE product announcements.
        Questions concerning particular computing systems should be directed to
        the appropriate comp.sys.* newsgroups.  The posting of binaries is
        discouraged; ftp sites are much preferred for this form of data.

comp.graphics.apps.softimage Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                         shaun allan
[email protected]                                                  Alan Boucek
[email protected]                                                  Dharamraj
[email protected]                                                  Antoine Durr
[email protected]                                           Adrian Ford
[email protected]                                         Michael Scroggins
[email protected]                                                   Alan Kennedy
[email protected]                                 Tan Tuan Hiang Cheryl A
[email protected]                                                   Alan Latteri
[email protected]                                         Alberto Bendinger
[email protected]
[email protected]                                            Andrew Wright
[email protected]                                        Andy Tucker
[email protected]                                               Andy Lomas
[email protected]                                                T.H.Chan
[email protected]                                    Becky Johnson (Studio)
[email protected]                                       Blair Harrison
[email protected]                                                   Blanche Cohen
[email protected]                                                Brian Green
[email protected]                                          Dave French
[email protected]                                                    Bump Map
[email protected]                                    Mark A. Stinson
[email protected]                        Paul 'Shag' Walmsley
[email protected]                                                    fabio del sordo
[email protected]                                                        Clay Budin
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Cal Sawyer
[email protected]                                             Craig Simmons
[email protected]                                     CineVideo Arts Philippines
[email protected]                                             Daniel Small
[email protected]                                               Darek Iwanski
[email protected]                                    Darson Hall
[email protected]                                             David Drum
[email protected]                                            John McKenzie
[email protected]                                                 David Barosin
[email protected]                                                 Decker, Mark
[email protected]                                             James DeKorse
[email protected]                             Desrochers Jean-Philippe
[email protected]                                Didier Vandenbroeck
[email protected]                                                       Dong Kim
[email protected]                                  Don McMillan
[email protected]                                                   Douglas Johnson
[email protected]                                  David Shaw
[email protected]                                                Douglas Vitarelli
[email protected]                                                            amy
[email protected]                                 Elias A. Fayyad
[email protected]                                              Mark E. Ferguson
[email protected]                                                        Thorsten Fox
[email protected]                                                Francisco Parada
[email protected]                                           Frank Falcone
[email protected]                                                 Glenna Deutsch
[email protected]                                       George Joblove
[email protected]                                                George Otto
[email protected]                                                John Goodman
[email protected]                               Gordon D.B. Cameron
[email protected]                            Guido Matzer
[email protected]                                           Heberle H.
[email protected]                                               Heman Chen
[email protected]                                    Richard Helmick
[email protected]                                             Haji Uesato
[email protected]                                           Iain Pybus
[email protected]                                                 Janto Gunawan
[email protected]                                  Jeremiah Cornelius
[email protected]                                           Derek Jobien
[email protected]                                                           Jonboy
[email protected]
[email protected]                                     John Warren
[email protected]                                                 Kim Aldis
[email protected]                                   Klaus Badelt
[email protected]                                              Kip Hardy
[email protected]                                               Christoph Lischka
[email protected]                                  Martin Schr"oder
[email protected]                                               Lars Rikart Jensen
[email protected]                                             Linda Suurkula
[email protected]                             John Tissavary | Luna Cie, Inc.
[email protected]
[email protected]                                  John C. Parker
[email protected]                                        Matija Marolt
[email protected]                                                  Bryan Mauro
[email protected]                                              Mark Ball
[email protected]                                                Marcus Fehse
[email protected]                                      Mary Welch Higgins
[email protected]                                            Michael Smith
[email protected]                                 Michael Donald Hill
[email protected]                                            MouseHouse
[email protected]                                              David Nahon
[email protected]                                        Neil Hunter
[email protected]                                           Nick Rosendorf
[email protected]                              New York Film & Animation Co.
[email protected]                                        [email protected]
[email protected]                               Bart Simps... er... Oktay S Ahiska
[email protected]                                                     JueyChong Ong
[email protected]                                                   Richar Parr
[email protected]                                                     3D user
[email protected]                                                   Paul Churchill
[email protected]                                           Peter Rohleder
[email protected]                                         Piippo Petri
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                       Phil Jones
[email protected]                                      Luigi Porcari
[email protected]                          =?iso-8859-1?Q?Klaus=2DJ=FCrgen?=  Quast
[email protected]                                 muki pakesch
[email protected]                                                          CR/JW
[email protected]                                                      Jeff Kott
[email protected]                                                     Robert Ivanc
[email protected]                                                 Robert v. Cavaleri
[email protected]                                               Eric Martin
[email protected]                                                ron small
[email protected]                                            Salvatore Raciti
[email protected]                                                 Stefan_Didak
[email protected]                                                   Stuart Gold
[email protected]
[email protected]                                            Richard Peterson
[email protected]
[email protected]                                        Suraj Gulrajani
[email protected]                                     Reinhard Knobelspies
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                       todd brous
[email protected]                                                     Tony Clark
[email protected]                                                Chris Trimble
[email protected]                                          William VanNess
[email protected]                                              videoweb
[email protected]                                       Vesa-Matti Paananen
[email protected]                                           Erik Wesselak
[email protected]                                                 Wim Lamotte
[email protected]                                           YVES GIGON

Voted No
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[email protected]                                                         Andi F
[email protected]                                  Claudia Lester
[email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                                     Dave Levy
[email protected]                                               Greg Maguire
[email protected]                                             HELGE HAUGLAND
[email protected]                                                     HiTech
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                 Jeff Murphy
[email protected]
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                          Martin Knoblauch
[email protected]                                                  Lance K. Chun
[email protected]                                                 Marcus Breiing
[email protected]                                               Michael Mantel
[email protected]                                           Patrick J. LoPresti
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                            Robert L. Edwards
[email protected]                                      Ollivier Robert
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                               Bob Weissman
[email protected]                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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[email protected]                                           Jonathan Adair
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                    David Ehlers
   ! Conflicting votes
[email protected]                                             Charles Colladay
   ! No vote statement in message