From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 02:47:25 1992
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Subject: RFD:  rec.arts.sf.starwars
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		This is the official call for discussion of the creation
of a newsgroup for the discussion of Star Wars.

		rec.arts.sf.starwars 

		This would be a viable newsgroup, considering the new comic
series, the new book series, the popularity of West End Games' Star Wars: The
Roleplaying Game, the hints of upcoming hype about the release of the next
trilogy in George Lucas's 9-film series, and the fact that the trilogy is still
a topic for discussion even though the last of the movies was released almost a
decade ago. 
		The newsgroup would be unmoderated, to make for a fast response
time to new material and since the group's topic is not exactly controversial
enough to warrant some sort of intervention. 
		The topics to be covered would be those mentioned above:
questions and discussion about the Zahn book series, Dark Horse's comic
adaptation, the earlier comic book series and books released during the time of
the first trilogy's release, the roleplaying game and any information about new
films produced. Also, information on trading Star Wars memorabilia would be a
topic (playing cards, figurines, posters, promotional material, etc.). 

Update on the discussion of the creation of the group:

	Due to this being my first time trying to get a newsgroup going 
and my news server is a little quirky, this may take slightly longer to get 
officially recognized.  So if you've seen this request before and have
responded, thank you, and please don't respond again *until* there is
a CFV, at which time you'll have to send me your simple yes or no
again. Also, since my news service is quirky and apparently  the
letter didn't reach the "news.groups" list, it'll be a couple of weeks  
minimum before I can CFV, assuming not too many people have major complaints. 
		Most people who have discussed this so far have simply
given an enthusiastic yes to the charter as suggested, some adding how they
have wanted a forum for such for a while and would like to see it
eventually reach the level of the Star Trek lists in terms of
popularity and mail volume. 
		Only a couple of people have given emphatic negative responses,
questioning if there would be enough interest. The sheer fact that their 
opinion is in the extreme minority discounts their opinion. (IMO. :) )
		A couple have suggested that the topic be expanded into a 
discussion format for all Lucasfilms, on the level of an alt.fan.lucasfilms.
The intention (at least when I suggested it) was to stay simply with Star Wars
lore alone, seeing as there would be more than enough to talk about within 
that movie series and paraphenalia alone without getting into anything else 
of Lucas's. However, if there was to be any major charter definition to be 
discussed, this would seem to be the only one.
		One person wondered about starting the group as an alt.- 
rather than a rec.- but did not give much information on the difference between
the two classifications. Since I haven't read anything which makes a solid case
for putting this into the alt- category, or even explains what the difference
is, then I will continue to suggest it as a rec- group until someone shows me 
the error of my ways.
		So to summarize:

		This is the official *R*FD. Sorry I called it by another name,
ye of great vax knowledge. ;)
		Most people are in favor of the group as suggested.
		The only major point to be discussed is whether or not to open
the topic up to all George Lucas films or stay with the charter as suggested.
		And if anyone has any further suggestions, please post them
before the end of the first weekend in February (i.e., approximately 2 weeks
>from this sending). If no one has any new major changes to suggest, then I 
will re-post the charter as a CFV. 
		I plan to post this to news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,
rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.frp,bit-cinema-l,
rec.arts.comics and alt.cult.movies. If anyone does not see this post
on one of  these lists by Monday, 1/20, or has a suggestion for a list
that this should be crossed to (since I don't read *everything* ;) ),
I'd appreciate this getting  crossed to that list and then someone
e-mailing me at [email protected] to let me know where it's going.
		Thanks.

						Virtually,
							Chris Keroack
-- 
Christophe Keroack, [email protected], Jedi Knight and warm fuzzy person.
"I'm French! Why do you think I have this out-rrrrrageous ac-cent?"

From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:24:13 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chris Jacobson)
Subject: CFV:  rec.arts.sf.starwars
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Call For Votes (CFV): rec.arts.sf.starwars

Status: unmoderated

This is an offical Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of the Usenet
newsgroup rec.arts.sf.starwars.  The discussion period has been over for
several weeks, and a CFV needed to be issued.


Charter:

Rec.arts.sf.starwars is for discussion of the Star Wars universe.

Topics of discussion would include:

        o the Star Wars movie trilogy
          o Star Wars
          o The Empire Strikes Back
          o Return of the Jedi
        o information/updates regarding a possible fifth movie
        o the collection of Star Wars memorabilia
        o the three-book cycle on the later years of Star Wars
        o other Star Wars book series
        o the Star Wars RPG
        o any other topics pertinent to the world of Star Wars 


Voting Instructions:

Send your vote to [email protected]

If you vote YES, put the following in the subject or the body of your message:
     'I vote YES on rec.arts.sf.starwars'

If you vote NO, put the following in the subject or the body of your message:
     'I vote NO on rec.arts.sf.starwars'

Only votes mailed to the above address, [email protected], will be
counted.  All ambiguous votes will be discarded.  If I receive more then one
vote from one person, the LAST vote will be counted.

Only votes received before April 4th, 1992 23:59 CST, will be counted. 
-- 
Chris Jacobson                               INTERNET: [email protected]
Minneapolis, MN
-Home to the NCAA Final Four-                   UUCP: kksys!orbit!pnet51!chris

From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 21:38:40 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chris Jacobson)
Subject: RESULT:  rec.arts.sf.starwars passes 383: 77
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The voting poll for  rec.arts.sf.starwars, closed  on April 4th, 1992 at
midnight.  The final vote result; along with a list of the voters, and their
votes can be found below. 

The final vote tally is: 383 "yes" votes, and 77 "no" votes.

This meets all the criteria for the creation of rec.arts.sf.starwars.

The five day validation and examination period of the vote starts now.  If
this is vote is judged to be valid, the newsgroup will be created.

Thank you to all who voted, and "May the force be with you..."

Chris Jacobson                               Internet: [email protected]
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______________________________________________________________________________

Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.starwars

Status: unmoderated

Charter:
Rec.arts.sf.starwars is for discussion of the Star Wars universe.

Topics of discussion would include:

        o the Star Wars movie trilogy
          o Star Wars
          o The Empire Strikes Back
          o Return of the Jedi
        o information/updates regarding a possible fourth movie
        o the collection of Star Wars memorabilia
        o the three-book cycle on the later years of Star Wars
        o other Star Wars book series
        o the Star Wars RPG
        o any other topics pertinent to the world of Star Wars


The following 77 people voted "no" to r.a.sf.starwars
-----------------------------------------------------
"Kenton A. Hoover" 
"Patrick Tuffts" 
Bruce Momjian 
Grant Denkinson 
Helge Hauglin 
Joel B Levin 
Ian Borchardt 
Jeremy Louis Billones 
Jim Roche 
Justin Clark 
Kimmo Ketolainen 
Magnus Olsson 
Marc Moorcroft 
Matthew Dustin Morgan 
Mike Fessler 
Pete Hartman 
Roger Crew 
Sven Heinicke 
Timothy VanFossen 
Tom Fitzgerald 


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[email protected] (Ian O'Brien)
[email protected] (Kevin Rushforth)
[email protected] (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
[email protected] (Vincent Archer)
[email protected] (Austin G. Hasting)
[email protected] (ED Bailey)
[email protected] (LT J.D. Baldwin)
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[email protected] (canau)
[email protected] (James C. Barrett)
[email protected] (Daniel Veditz)
[email protected] (Ed McGuire)
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[email protected] (Eric P. Scott)
[email protected] (Loyd Blankenship)
[email protected] (Frank Peters)
[email protected] (Geoff Bronner)
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[email protected] (Stephen Graham)
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[email protected] (Hades)
[email protected] (John Henders)
[email protected] (John McKernan)
[email protected] (John C Wenn)
[email protected] (Jeff Wishnie)
[email protected] (Brian Kenney)
[email protected] (Mark Sicignano)
[email protected] (Michael Brodeur)
[email protected] (Memphis TN)
[email protected] (mehta)
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[email protected] (Mike Palmer)
[email protected] (Pat Wilson)
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[email protected] (P.J. Boulay)
[email protected] (John PLate)
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[email protected] (Betsy Ramsey)
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
[email protected] (Rolf Wilson)
[email protected] (Scott Fischer)
[email protected] (Dave V. Schaller)
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[email protected] ("Duckie" Shiau)
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[email protected] (Danno McKinnon)
[email protected] (John M Troyer)
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[email protected] (Steven S Work)
[email protected] (Conway Yee)


The following 383 people voted "yes" to r.a.sf.starwars
-------------------------------------------------------
****** Linda ****** 
^ Windom Earle ^  
"\ystein Tvedten" 
"Beaker" 
"Big Ed" 
"Brian E. Paul" 
"Carlos G. Niederstrasser" 
"Chad Burkins" 
"Charles Fee" 
"Ellen K. Seebacher" 
"Eric J. Svedberg" 
"Eric Leven" 
"Ernie Oporto" 
"Gaeste heute" 
"Gerald (Jerry) KUCH" 
"Gregory A. Martin" 
"Guinn - he arkone has returned..." 
"Harry R. Skalleberg" 
"Holger Reusch" 
"K.M.Lijewski" 
"Keith Woolner" 
"Kent R. Kimmel" 
"Loran J. Miller" 
"Mark A. Lindsay" 
"Michelle L. Zafron" 
"Moot." 
"Nick Kline" 
"Raj Smith" 
"Ralf Treinen" 
"Raymond W. Chramega" 
"Richard L. Butler" 
"Scotti Z. Whitmire" 
"Sean Costella 862-6116" 
"Sime" 
"Todd \"Slan\" Bradley" 
"Tyrell Corporation" <11HLAYTON%[email protected]>
"William Fabanich" 














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		This is the official call for discussion of the creation
of a newsgroup for the discussion of Star Wars.

		rec.arts.sf.starwars 

		This would be a viable newsgroup, considering the new comic
series, the new book series, the popularity of West End Games' Star Wars: The
Roleplaying Game, the hints of upcoming hype about the release of the next
trilogy in George Lucas's 9-film series, and the fact that the trilogy is still
a topic for discussion even though the last of the movies was released almost a
decade ago. 
		The newsgroup would be unmoderated, to make for a fast response
time to new material and since the group's topic is not exactly controversial
enough to warrant some sort of intervention. 
		The topics to be covered would be those mentioned above:
questions and discussion about the Zahn book series, Dark Horse's comic
adaptation, the earlier comic book series and books released during the time of
the first trilogy's release, the roleplaying game and any information about new
films produced. Also, information on trading Star Wars memorabilia would be a
topic (playing cards, figurines, posters, promotional material, etc.). 

Update on the discussion of the creation of the group:

	Due to this being my first time trying to get a newsgroup going 
and my news server is a little quirky, this may take slightly longer to get 
officially recognized.  So if you've seen this request before and have
responded, thank you, and please don't respond again *until* there is
a CFV, at which time you'll have to send me your simple yes or no
again. Also, since my news service is quirky and apparently  the
letter didn't reach the "news.groups" list, it'll be a couple of weeks  
minimum before I can CFV, assuming not too many people have major complaints. 
		Most people who have discussed this so far have simply
given an enthusiastic yes to the charter as suggested, some adding how they
have wanted a forum for such for a while and would like to see it
eventually reach the level of the Star Trek lists in terms of
popularity and mail volume. 
		Only a couple of people have given emphatic negative responses,
questioning if there would be enough interest. The sheer fact that their 
opinion is in the extreme minority discounts their opinion. (IMO. :) )
		A couple have suggested that the topic be expanded into a 
discussion format for all Lucasfilms, on the level of an alt.fan.lucasfilms.
The intention (at least when I suggested it) was to stay simply with Star Wars
lore alone, seeing as there would be more than enough to talk about within 
that movie series and paraphenalia alone without getting into anything else 
of Lucas's. However, if there was to be any major charter definition to be 
discussed, this would seem to be the only one.
		One person wondered about starting the group as an alt.- 
rather than a rec.- but did not give much information on the difference between
the two classifications. Since I haven't read anything which makes a solid case
for putting this into the alt- category, or even explains what the difference
is, then I will continue to suggest it as a rec- group until someone shows me 
the error of my ways.
		So to summarize:

		This is the official *R*FD. Sorry I called it by another name,
ye of great vax knowledge. ;)
		Most people are in favor of the group as suggested.
		The only major point to be discussed is whether or not to open
the topic up to all George Lucas films or stay with the charter as suggested.
		And if anyone has any further suggestions, please post them
before the end of the first weekend in February (i.e., approximately 2 weeks
>from this sending). If no one has any new major changes to suggest, then I 
will re-post the charter as a CFV. 
		I plan to post this to news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,
rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.frp,bit-cinema-l,
rec.arts.comics and alt.cult.movies. If anyone does not see this post
on one of  these lists by Monday, 1/20, or has a suggestion for a list
that this should be crossed to (since I don't read *everything* ;) ),
I'd appreciate this getting  crossed to that list and then someone
e-mailing me at [email protected] to let me know where it's going.
		Thanks.

						Virtually,
							Chris Keroack
-- 
Christophe Keroack, [email protected], Jedi Knight and warm fuzzy person.
"I'm French! Why do you think I have this out-rrrrrageous ac-cent?"

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From: [email protected] (Chris Jacobson)
Subject: CFV:  rec.arts.sf.starwars
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Call For Votes (CFV): rec.arts.sf.starwars

Status: unmoderated

This is an offical Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of the Usenet
newsgroup rec.arts.sf.starwars.  The discussion period has been over for
several weeks, and a CFV needed to be issued.


Charter:

Rec.arts.sf.starwars is for discussion of the Star Wars universe.

Topics of discussion would include:

        o the Star Wars movie trilogy
          o Star Wars
          o The Empire Strikes Back
          o Return of the Jedi
        o information/updates regarding a possible fifth movie
        o the collection of Star Wars memorabilia
        o the three-book cycle on the later years of Star Wars
        o other Star Wars book series
        o the Star Wars RPG
        o any other topics pertinent to the world of Star Wars 


Voting Instructions:

Send your vote to [email protected]

If you vote YES, put the following in the subject or the body of your message:
     'I vote YES on rec.arts.sf.starwars'

If you vote NO, put the following in the subject or the body of your message:
     'I vote NO on rec.arts.sf.starwars'

Only votes mailed to the above address, [email protected], will be
counted.  All ambiguous votes will be discarded.  If I receive more then one
vote from one person, the LAST vote will be counted.

Only votes received before April 4th, 1992 23:59 CST, will be counted. 
-- 
Chris Jacobson                               INTERNET: [email protected]
Minneapolis, MN
-Home to the NCAA Final Four-                   UUCP: kksys!orbit!pnet51!chris

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