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R E Q U E S T   F O R   D I S C U S S I O N
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This is a Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a newsgroup for
the discussion of issues regarding the Symantec THINK Class Library for C
and Pascal.

GROUP NAME

comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl

STATUS

unmoderated

CHARTER

comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup to discuss
Symantec's Think C and Think Pascal object-oriented framework and class
library for Macintosh. Discussion topics include

* class usage, design, and implementation

* TCL bug reports, work-arounds, and fixes

* TCL application development techniques

* TCL development aids

RATIONALE

The THINK Class Library has matured over the last two years into a full
suite of classes necessary to design and implement all aspects of a
Macintosh application. A TCL mailing list maintained at Brown University
has grown from a few dozen participants to almost 400 in a single year.
Further, this past year has seen an increasing number of TCL questions
appearing in the comp.sys.mac.programmer group and the successful of the
object-oriented-programming group within comp.sys.mac. The time is right
for a TCL specific group.

BACKGROUND

The THINK Class Library is distributed as part of Symantec's THINK C and
THINK Pascal Macintosh development environments. The class library includes
an application framework, a foundation set of interface classes, data
management classes, coordination classes, and an exception handling
mechanism. These classes and their documentation are supplemented by the
classes and information available in the archives on the internet
(ftp.brown.edu) and the major commercial networks such as America Online
and Compuserv, and in the SPLAsh newsletter.

SCHEDULE

This RFD was issued on March 1 and will last for 30 days. If this RFD is
approved, a CFV will be issued on March 31, and the voting period will end
at 11:59 (EST), April 20.
-- 
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Brown University
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                   C A L L   F O R   V O T E S
                   ---------------------------

This is a Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl.

DISCUSSION

     A Request For Discussion (RFD) was issued on March 1. The
     name, status and charter of the new group were accepted.

GROUP NAME, STATUS and CHARTER

     comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for
     discussion of all types of issues regarding Symantec's
     Macintosh programming framework the "THINK Class Library."

VOTING

     The voting period will begin when this CFV is posted. It
     will end on April 24, 1993. According to the Usenet rules,
     in order for the group to be created, at least 2/3 of the
     votes cast must be YES votes, and there must be at least 100
     more YES votes than NO votes.
     
     To vote YES please send to the following address
     
          [email protected]
     
     To vote NO please send to the following address
     
          [email protected]
     
     Conditional statements (e.g. "I would vote YES, if ...")
     will be considered as comments as will votes posted to the
     net instead of being mailed to the above address. Please
     include your full name if your mailer doesn't do this for
     you.

SCHEDULE

     This CFV was issued on April 2, and the voting period will
     end on April 24, 1993 at 23:59 GMT.
     
     Thank you for your participation.
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Andrew Gilmartin                        [email protected]        
Computing & Information Services
Brown University
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                   C A L L   F O R   V O T E S
                   ---------------------------

This is a second Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of
comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl.

DISCUSSION

     A Request For Discussion (RFD) was issued on March 1. The
     name, status and charter of the new group were accepted.

GROUP NAME, STATUS and CHARTER

     comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for
     discussion of all types of issues regarding Symantec's
     Macintosh programming framework the "THINK Class Library."

VOTING

     The voting period will begin when this CFV is posted. It
     will end on April 24, 1993. According to the Usenet rules,
     in order for the group to be created, at least 2/3 of the
     votes cast must be YES votes, and there must be at least 100
     more YES votes than NO votes.
     
     To vote YES please send to the following address
     
          [email protected]
     
     To vote NO please send to the following address
     
          [email protected]
     
     Conditional statements (e.g. "I would vote YES, if ...")
     will be considered as comments as will votes posted to the
     net instead of being mailed to the above address. Please
     include your full name if your mailer doesn't do this for
     you.

SCHEDULE

     This CFV was issued on April 2, and the voting period will
     end on April 24, 1993.
     
     Thank you for your participation.

VOTE ACK

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Andrew Gilmartin                        [email protected]
Computing & Information Services
Brown University
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                         comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl
                             R E S U L T S

Here are the results of the CFV on the creation of the comp.sys.mac.oop.tcl
newsgroup.

     Total votes cast:	430
     Yes votes: 378 (87.9%)
     No votes:	  52 (12.1%)

The requirements for group creation are met and the new newsgroup can be
created after a waiting period of 5 days. During this waiting period the
net has a chance to correct any errors in the voter list appended below.

Thanks to anyone who cast a vote.

YES votes (sorted by address):

"Aaron Bratcher"  
"Alexis Martial, Mac Man"  (Tel 93653465) 
"Bjoern U. Gregersen"  
"C Jackson,Stewarts Supermarke"  
"Chris (C.C.) Ellens"  
"David A Fagan"  
"David Ely"  
"Don Rainwater, Systems Manager, Academic IT Services" 
"Edward J. Huff"  
"Gary N. Boone"  
"Grant Farr"  
"Haydn Huntley"  
"Ian LeGrow"  
"Internet LEYDON%[email protected]" 
"J. Daniel Ozeran"  
"Jeff Rensch 3-2530"  
"Jim Moy"  
"Joe Strout .. Miami University, Oxford OH" 
"John Goldin"  
"John P. Speno"  
"Kent B. Reuber"  
"Loren Thompson"  
"Mark J. Duffield"  
"Mason L. Bliss"  
"Michael Kemper [RHRK]"  
"Mr. Ian Soboroff; ACS (PC)"  
"NAME \"Greg A. Lato\""  
"Paulo J. S. G. Ferreira"  
"Per Friberg, Joint Astronomy Centre"  
"Pete Boysen"  
"Randall A. Gacek"  
"Rick Holzgrafe"  
"Sofer, William H"  
"Steven Lane"  
"Tanka R. Sunuwar"  
"Teas-Malcolm"  
"Tron R."  
"Vincent Tapia"  
"bhill.US1"  
"pfterry"  
(Brad Koehn)  
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A1 ray arachelian (library)  
AGOSTINELLI GREGORY A  
ANDREAS%[email protected] 
Aaron Oppenheimer  
Aaron Schrab  
Aaron Starr  
Andreas 'Ideograf' Magnusson  
Andreas Langjahr  
Andreas Sorgatz  
Andrew Currie  
Andrew Shearer  
Asko Eerola  
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Bengt Baverman  
Bowe Strickland  
Brad Hanson  
[email protected] (Bruce Hoult) 
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Carl Bell  
Carwil James  
Charles B Cranston  
Chris Harwood-Jones  
Chris Haupt -- ISC/ACUS  
Chris Stuart  
Christopher P Dingman  
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Dale Hartman  
Dana S Emery  
[email protected] (Daryl Spitzer) 
David G. Durand  
David M Marcovitz  
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Debra Jones  
Denis Nicolas Antonioli  
Doug Weathers  
Doug Wood  
Dylan Steinberg  
Eric H Seale  
Eric Richards  
[email protected] (Eric J. Baumgartner) 
Evan James Torrie  
Francois Menneteau  
Frank Mathias Mattes  
GEOFFREY PARSONS  
[email protected] (Gordon Watts -- U of Rochester) 
Geoff Allen  
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Gordon Shumway  
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Gunnar Blomberg  
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Humayun Lari  
Ian Robinson  
Jason S. White  
Jerome Bordier  
Jim Miner  
Jim Sokoloff  
Jim Turner  
Jim Van Peursem  
John Higgins  
John Paolillo  
John S. Jacob  
Juergen Peus  
Julian Vrieslander  
Juri Munkki  
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Keith S. Lamont  
Kelvin Edmison  
Kevin Lee Kluge  
Klaus Gottheil  
L L Campbell  
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Laurent Wenker  
Lewis Jr. High  
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Services) 
[email protected] (Erik C. Thauvin) 
[email protected] (ROB MITCHELL (508) 261-4683) 
Malcolm McGilp  
Malcolm Pradhan  
Malcolm Slaney  
Mark Davidson  
Marshall Presser  
Martijn Koster  
Martin Emonts-Gast  
Matthias Mann  
Michael Abramowicz  
Mihkel Tammepuu  
Mikael Fredriksson  
Montford  
Oliver Kluge  
P TURPIE  
Paul DuBois  
Pete Figliozzi  
Peter Broadribb  
Peter Castine  
Peter J Gergely  
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Philippe Piernot  
Rick Ossinger  
Robert Gillen  
Robert J White Jr  
[email protected] (Roger Brown) 
Ron Wichers Schreur  
Roy Richter PH/32  
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STEELE MARK A  
Scott Pilet  
Seth Lucien Theriault  
[email protected] (Mark Sproul) 
Stephen Veit  (Stephen R. Veit) 
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Steve Rieger  
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The Weasel  
Tim Rushing  
Todd Jonker  
Todd L. Gustavson  
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Victor DaCosta  
Vincent Darley  
Waldemar Wiwianka  
Warren Wood  
Will Bene  
Will Schenk  
William Burrows  
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[email protected] (Don Zolinski) 
[email protected] (Terry Monks) 
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[email protected] (Brad Ackerman) 
[email protected] (Al Velella) 
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[email protected] (Martin Brynskov) 
[email protected] (Bassel Soudan) 
[email protected] (Carlo De Vecchi) 
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[email protected] (Dan Waylonis) 
[email protected] (Dan Wood) 
[email protected] (David H. Miller) 
[email protected] (Dan Lingman) 
[email protected] (Andrew Dent) 
[email protected] (D. Jay Newman) 
[email protected] (Don Barton) 
[email protected] (Drew Phillips) 
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[email protected] (Enrico Brunetta) 
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[email protected] (Mark J. Gardner) 
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[email protected] (Frank Gitmans) 
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[email protected] (Greg Weston) 
[email protected] (Chris J. Goebel) 
[email protected] (Greg Ferguson) 
[email protected] (Holst) 
[email protected] (gt2011a SIMMS,WILLIAM SHELDON) 
[email protected] (Andreas J. Guelzow) 
[email protected] (Gordon Van Huizen) 
[email protected] (Lawrence Halff) 
[email protected] (Stephan Heilmayr) 
[email protected] (Art Hicks) 
[email protected] (Eiji Hirai) 
[email protected] (Herb Poppe) 
[email protected] (Harri Siirtola) 
[email protected] (Chris Deery) 
[email protected] (Igor Livshits) 
[email protected] (Igor Mikolic-Torreira) 
[email protected] (Ian McEachern VE3PFH) 
[email protected] (Jack Herrington) 
[email protected] (John Lindal) 
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[email protected] (Joseph Alan Churchill) 
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[email protected] (Jim Kinnison) 
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[email protected] (J.E. King) 
[email protected] (Gerald Siek) 
[email protected] (Jim Lynch) 
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[email protected] (Jamie R. McCarthy) 
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[email protected] (Karl Johan Olsen) 
[email protected] (Juha-Petri Karna) 
[email protected] (Kevin Bell) 
[email protected] (Ken Griffiths) (Ken Griffiths) 
[email protected] 
[email protected] 
[email protected] (Kishore Sarathy) 
[email protected] (Richard Kline) 
[email protected] (Brad Koehn) 
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[email protected] (Robert A. Lentz) 
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[email protected] (Laurent Kling) 
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[email protected] (Michael Lonetto) 
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