From [email protected] Tue Sep 27 14:16:04 1994
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From: [email protected] (Mike Wilson)
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Subject: RFD: comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx
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                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

                     comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx

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Group Name:     comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx
Status:         Unmoderated
Summary:        Discussions concerning using and augmenting the UIM/X User 
                Interface Builder.
Distribution:   World

Proposed by:    Mike Wilson ([email protected])

Cross Posted to:news.announce.newgroups,
                news.groups,
                [email protected] [mailing list]
                comp.windows.misc
                comp.windows.x
                comp.windows.x.motif

This is a formal request for discussion on the creation of a new newsgroup.
This message starts the "discussion period". It will last for 21 days. During 
this time you are free to supply comments about the group name and charter.
When the discussion ends, there will be a voting whether the group should be 
created or not. 

CHARTER
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This unmoderated newsgroup proposed will be used for the discussion of
Visual Edge's UIM/X User Interface Builder. It is a tool for building, and 
generating code for, graphical user interfaces.

Topics appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:

        * How to use UIM/X when designing UI:s
        * How to augment UIM/X
        * Problems and workarounds

The "ui-builders" intermediate level will make room for other, similar tools.

Today there is a discussion group in the above mentioned mailing list. It will
continue to exist as a mirror to this (potential) new group.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Nov 21 12:48:24 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: CFV: comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx
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Date: 21 Nov 1994 11:48:52 -0500
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx

Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx	Using and augmenting the UIM/X UI Builder.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list [email protected]

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Mike Wilson 


CHARTER

This unmoderated newsgroup will be used for the discussion of
Visual Edge's UIM/X User Interface Builder. It is a tool for building, and 
generating code for, graphical user interfaces.

Topics appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:

        * How to use UIM/X when designing UI:s
        * How to augment UIM/X
        * Problems and workarounds

The "ui-builders" intermediate level will make room for other, similar tools.

Today there is a discussion group in the above mentioned mailing list. It will
continue to exist as a mirror to this newsgroup.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx
      I vote NO on comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Dec  1 15:37:32 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx
Supersedes: 
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx

Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx   Using and augmenting the UIM/X UI Builder.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list [email protected]

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Mike Wilson 


CHARTER

This unmoderated newsgroup will be used for the discussion of
Visual Edge's UIM/X User Interface Builder. It is a tool for building, and 
generating code for, graphical user interfaces.

Topics appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:

        * How to use UIM/X when designing UI:s
        * How to augment UIM/X
        * Problems and workarounds

The "ui-builders" intermediate level will make room for other, similar tools.

Today there is a discussion group in the above mentioned mailing list. It will
continue to exist as a mirror to this newsgroup.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx
      I vote NO on comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx Bounce List - No need to revote
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[email protected]                                                   Aaron Fein
[email protected]                                             JamesonJ
[email protected]                              Jeffery M. Eastwood - x5723
[email protected]                                             tracy catron
[email protected]                                             Bob Wheeler

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Dec 14 15:15:15 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: RESULT: comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx passes 211:36
Supersedes: 
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                                    RESULT
        unmoderated group comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx passes 211:36

There were 211 YES votes and 36 NO votes, for a total of 247 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain and 1 invalid ballot.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx   Using and augmenting the UIM/X UI Builder.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Mike Wilson 


CHARTER

This unmoderated newsgroup will be used for the discussion of
Visual Edge's UIM/X User Interface Builder. It is a tool for building, and 
generating code for, graphical user interfaces.

Topics appropriate to this newsgroup will include but are not limited to:

        * How to use UIM/X when designing UI:s
        * How to augment UIM/X
        * Problems and workarounds

The "ui-builders" intermediate level will make room for other, similar tools.

Today there is a discussion group in the above mentioned mailing list. It will
continue to exist as a mirror to this newsgroup.


comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                           Van Nguyen
[email protected]                                                Al Larson
[email protected]                                          Ferd N Ahlberg
[email protected]                                        Alan Walworth
[email protected]                                     Alex P. Madarasz, Jr.
[email protected]                                            Allen Wittenauer
[email protected]                                Andrew J. Lukasik
[email protected]                                              Anders Emil Olsen
[email protected]                                         Andreas Heidemann
[email protected]                                                      Andy Darby
[email protected]                                               Srini Raman
[email protected]                                         Jeff Arnholt
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[email protected]                                            Artur Pioro
aspgd21!dtcdmt1%[email protected]                            Duke Thompson
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
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[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]             Ed Gallant(457-4120) 51E42 bambam
[email protected]              Bard W Torustad
[email protected]                              Dirk Becker
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                        Bryce Harrington
[email protected]                                   Dan Morrow
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                               Lee Radzicki 
[email protected]                                 Jay Hiremath
[email protected]                              Scott Pennell
[email protected]                                  Ray Bentz
[email protected]                              Chuck Patrick
[email protected]                               Dipti Suthar
[email protected]                               Vijay Kuderu
[email protected]                                  Joe Eakin
[email protected]                                 Bob Bickel
[email protected]                            Chris Baeckstrom
[email protected]                               Donna Heffner
[email protected]                              Monica Toomey
[email protected]                                   Mel Baiada
[email protected]                                    Dave Booth
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[email protected]                                         Ian Britten
[email protected]                         joachim bruelle
[email protected]                                    Wayne Bryant
[email protected]                         James K. Anderson
[email protected]                           Mr Thierry CAILLET
[email protected]                                        Caroline Cote
[email protected]                                             Cris Harmsen
[email protected]                             Cliff Campbell
[email protected]                                                    Chris Eich
[email protected]                                              Adam Cohen
[email protected]                                      Curtis Keller
[email protected]                                                 Chris Hushour
[email protected]                                          Damian Mac Randal
[email protected]                                            Greg Dardick
[email protected]                              Dean McCavitt (SAIC)
[email protected]                                      David J. Kari
[email protected]                                             Denny Hanson
[email protected]                                      Reinhard Dunkel
[email protected]                          Per Bohlin EHS/PBJ 80438 3005
[email protected]                                    Elisabeth Weigkricht
[email protected]                                            Ellis Workman
[email protected]                                           Erwin Dondorp
[email protected]                        Jan B|rjesson TM/PMD 83422 3454
[email protected]                                                      Alison Eyth
[email protected]                                         Federico Atristain
[email protected]                                                   Aaron Fein
[email protected]                                                   Frode Oldervoll
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[email protected]                   Gary Vanderlinden {DevPro SQA]
Gary_Freshour/[email protected]                                         
[email protected]                                                Geoffrey Leach
[email protected]                                                 Gil Moskowitz
[email protected]                                                Low Master Kim
[email protected]                                          Gerald Reno
[email protected]                                           George Malone
[email protected]                                            Grant Williams
[email protected]                              George R Strohofer
[email protected]                                             Hal McMillan
[email protected]                                        Christopher Hall
[email protected]                                                  Harry Burks
[email protected]                                         I-Ching Lin (Henny)
[email protected]                                       Herbert Xu
[email protected]                                            Joe Holland
[email protected]                                         Laura G. Hook
[email protected]                                                       Matt Hucke
[email protected]                                      Richard Hughes
[email protected]                             
[email protected]         Neil Perkins 980-9892 51I05 jackalope
[email protected]                                             JamesonJ
[email protected]                                Jan Tore Richardsen
[email protected]                                             Jay Stagnone
jclark%[email protected]                                       Don Clark
[email protected]                                    Jean Libera
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[email protected]                                           Jacobs, John
[email protected]                              Jeffery M. Eastwood - x5723
[email protected]                                                    John Morey
[email protected]                                         Jochen Diehl
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[email protected]                               John Floremce F3A x6685
[email protected]                                          Jon Williams
[email protected]                                                      Jon Marthins
[email protected]                                            Jonathan Hutchinson
[email protected]                                           Choi Jaeseon
[email protected]                                              Jim CLARK
[email protected]                                                   Kaare Knudsen
[email protected]                                                Keith Gemeinhart
[email protected]                                       Kevin Carson
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[email protected]                                        Shankar Krishnan
[email protected]                                              Kyle Hayes
[email protected]                                       Larry J. Harpring
[email protected]                                                Craig A. Lee
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[email protected]                                       Kevin O. Lepard
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[email protected]                                         Madhusudhan Reddy
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[email protected]                                     Michael A. Peterson
[email protected]                                           Mark Dooley
[email protected]                      Martin Anantharaman
[email protected]                                                      Max Johnson
[email protected]                                              Pearse McDonnell
[email protected]                                      Mahlon Stacy  4-4558
[email protected]                                              Hans Melin
[email protected]                                                         Mei Chan
[email protected]                                       Mark Polhamus
[email protected]                                                 Mark Scoville
[email protected]                                                Mohit Mutreja
[email protected]                                          Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                                 Nick Richards
[email protected]                                                 Tom Nixon
[email protected]                                  Odd Stoltenberg
[email protected]                                                   Oddmar Sandvik
[email protected]                                        Orville Jones
[email protected]                                          Robert Osaki
[email protected]                                               Owen Veenstra
[email protected]                                         P.C.Stephenson
[email protected]                                                       Pam Otsuka
[email protected]                                           Pat Kines
[email protected]                                                Paul Ryan
[email protected]                                          Paula Patel
[email protected]                            Panagiotis Christias
[email protected]                                           Philip D. Kemplin
[email protected]                    Peter Eberhard
[email protected]                                                    Petter Harnes
[email protected]                                              Tuan Pham
[email protected]                                                  Huy Pham
[email protected]                                      Phillip S. Hoard
[email protected]                                                   phllps
[email protected]             Pierre-Emmanuel Leroy
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[email protected]                                        Peter BRUDERLIN
[email protected]                        Jan Lundkvist EHS/PBE 80637 3929
[email protected]                       Lars Lindberg EHS/PBE 81406 6564
[email protected]                         Mike Wilson EHS/PBE 80618 3973
[email protected]                                             Ron Karwoski
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[email protected]                                    Dima Rasnitsyn
[email protected]                                               Randall Hopper
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                          Robin Marquis
[email protected]                                                   Robert Low
[email protected]                                                  Rob Pavey
[email protected]                    Kevin Rodgers (x39079, WT-07)
[email protected]                                          Dave Rowlands
[email protected]                                              Randy M. Roberts
[email protected]                                           Richard H. Thomas
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[email protected]                                         Rune Winsevik
[email protected]                                     Kathy Saint
[email protected]                                    Stephen Cecutti (x2115)
[email protected]                               Patrick SCHERMESSER
[email protected]                           Joachim Schrod
[email protected]                         Michael Schwarz
[email protected]                              Sean M. McCarthy
[email protected]                                           Dave Sebok
[email protected]                                     Shirley Wong
[email protected]                                      Jochen H. Siebert
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[email protected]                                         Simran Singh
[email protected]                                        Soren Tirfing
[email protected]                                          David Grey Stahl
[email protected]                                   Fred Stevens
[email protected]                                    Stephen A. Williams
[email protected]                                         Mike Stroyan
[email protected]                                        Stuart Mackay
[email protected]                                         Serge Antoine Melanson
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[email protected]                                                      Ted Ede
Thuvan_Lam/[email protected]                                            
[email protected]                                             Tom Aaslund
[email protected]                                               Tommy Grunfeld
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                             tracy catron
[email protected]                                          Garrett Unno
[email protected]                        prime account Cust Zone Tech
[email protected]                                              Victor Zorin
[email protected]                        Ramaswami K. Vishwanathan 5-8204
[email protected]                              Stefan Vogel
[email protected]                                                      Bill Wade
[email protected]                                         Wayne Smith
[email protected]                                             Bill Walden
[email protected]                                             Bob Wheeler
[email protected]                             Ying-Pin Hung
[email protected]                    Daniel Zeng - XRT Graph Consultant

Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Vincent Archer
[email protected]                              David Shaffer
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                                 Harpal Chohan
[email protected]                                         Cory L. Scott
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                              carl e snook
[email protected]                                             David
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[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                               John [Francis] Stracke
[email protected]                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
[email protected]                                Helmut Geyer
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                           Jay Urbain
[email protected]                                    Jeff Murphy
[email protected]                                         Jim Cincotta
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                              Lantz Rowland
[email protected]                                           Gerry Swetsky
[email protected]                                                 Marcus Breiing
[email protected]                                         Nick Waterman
[email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                            Peter Berger
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                           Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                          Glen Rudie
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                       David Hunt
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS


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