From [email protected] Tue Feb 17 16:00:05 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Toni Veglia 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: RFD: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:58:23 GMT
Lines: 78
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9787 news.groups:271871 comp.org.usenix:7758

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to change the status
of comp.org.usenix from an unmoderated to a moderated newsgroup.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussion. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

Moderation policies:

The moderators encourage posting of any articles relating to USENIX
Association programs and matters that are of interest to its members.

Articles advertising unrelated activities will be rejected.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: 

Administrative contact: 
Submission address: 

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed change to the
newsgroup status should be raised and resolved.

The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting
from when the RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups),
after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote
taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup
creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet
Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group
Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in
news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the
process.

END PROCEDURE.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
comp.org.usenix

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 

From [email protected] Mon May 11 18:45:08 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Toni Veglia 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: 2nd RFD: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 01:43:38 GMT
Lines: 83
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10072 news.groups:282579 comp.org.usenix:7912

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to change the status
of comp.org.usenix from an unmoderated to a moderated newsgroup.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussion. (Moderated)

CHANGES from previous RFD:

This is a repost due to the length of time that has passed since
the first RFD; there have been no changes to the first RFD, below.

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

Moderation policies:

The moderators encourage posting of any articles relating to USENIX
Association programs and matters that are of interest to its members.

Articles advertising unrelated activities will be rejected.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator:  

Administrative contact: 
Submission address: 

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed change to the
newsgroup status should be raised and resolved.

The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting
from when the RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups),
after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote
taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup
creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet
Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group
Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in
news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the
process.

END PROCEDURE.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
comp.org.usenix

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 

From [email protected] Fri Jul 10 09:15:26 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10275 news.groups:290115 comp.org.usenix:7995

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Jul 14 05:39:07 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10293 news.groups:290589 comp.org.usenix:7999

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Jul 14 06:17:07 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10316 news.groups:290617 comp.org.usenix:8001

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Jul 14 08:30:41 1998
Path: news.isc.org!data.pa.vix.com!sonysjc!sanjose-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!london-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!diablo.theplanet.net!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bhars12c.bnr.co.uk!bcarh8ac.ca.nortel.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!zcarh46f.bnr.ca!hipcancel!despams.ocunix.on.ca!resurrector!not-for-mail
Message-ID: 
X-Reposted-By: [email protected]
X-Original-Path: ...!news3.bellglobal.com!news1.bellglobal.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.corridex.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!sanjose-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!vixie!news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: REPOST: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
X-Original-Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
X-Comments: DtR Repost: The following Usenet article was cancelled,
X-Comments: more than likely by someone other than the original poster.
X-Comments: Please see the end of this posting for a copy of the cancel.
X-Comments: Dave the Resurrector can be contacted at [email protected]
Lines: 143
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10339 news.groups:290651 comp.org.usenix:8003

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
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| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


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PQ datestamp: 980110

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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: cmsg cancel 
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From [email protected] Tue Jul 14 09:39:38 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Jul 15 04:23:40 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10359 news.groups:290756 comp.org.usenix:8006

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

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This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]
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Newsgroups: news.groups
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From [email protected] Wed Jul 15 05:50:28 1998
Control: cancel 
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
Message-ID: 
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: cmsg cancel 
Followup-To: poster
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: 15 Jul 98 12:50:26 GMT
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Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled
by daemon on behalf of moderator.

From [email protected] Wed Jul 15 06:18:30 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Jul 15 16:51:09 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10381 news.groups:291064 comp.org.usenix:8009

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Jul 15 17:55:02 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10391 news.groups:291074 comp.org.usenix:8010

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Jul 15 17:56:19 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10398 news.groups:291081 comp.org.usenix:8011

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 04:09:47 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10452 news.groups:291835 comp.org.usenix:8017

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 04:09:55 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10454 news.groups:291837 comp.org.usenix:8018

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 04:09:58 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10456 news.groups:291839 comp.org.usenix:8019

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 04:10:16 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
Lines: 126
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10460 news.groups:291843 comp.org.usenix:8020

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 04:44:16 1998
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Message-ID: 
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From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: REPOST: CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
X-Original-Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:11:55 GMT
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  intead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]
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From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]>
Control: cancel <[email protected]>
Date: 19 Jul 1998 00:55:16 GMT
Organization: HipCrime International, unLtd.
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Sender: Neil Crellin 
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: 
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X-No-Archive: Yes

Cancelled by HipCrime's NewsAgent.


From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 04:44:17 1998
Control: cancel 
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
Message-ID: 
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: cmsg cancel 
Followup-To: poster
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: 20 Jul 98 11:44:17 GMT
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Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled
by daemon on behalf of moderator.

From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 14:45:04 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Reply-To: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: 2nd CFV: moderate comp.org.usenix
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 1 Aug 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:43:26 GMT
Lines: 132
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10468 news.groups:292020 comp.org.usenix:8023

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
      moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group)

This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker.  It is not to be
posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by
the votetaker.  Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
reading the proposed newsgroup, and soliciting votes from uninterested
parties defeats this purpose.  Do *not* distribute this CFV;  instead,
direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups.
Distributing specific voting instructions or pre-marked copies of
this CFV is considered vote fraud.

This is a public vote:  All email addresses, names and votes will be
listed in the final RESULT post.  The name used may be either a real
name or an established Usenet handle.

At most one vote is allowed per person or per account.  Duplicate
votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

Voters must mail their ballots directly to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid, nor are votes mailed from
WWW/HTML/CGI forms (which should not exist).  Votes from nonexistent
accounts are also invalid, and the votetaker will reject any "munged"
address he cannot decipher immediately.

Please direct any questions to the votetaker at .

HOW TO VOTE:

Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after
the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Don't worry about
the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your
reply inserts.  Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me!

Fill in the ballot as shown below.  Please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot.

Examples of how to properly indicate your vote:

  [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote
  [ NO      ]  example.no.vote
  [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention
  [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation

DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot!
If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot.

When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < [email protected] >
Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three
days contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible
for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.

If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv.

======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line =======
.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: comp.org.usenix
| Official Usenet Voting Ballot  (Do not remove this line!)
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected.  Place
| ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other
| information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line:

Voter name:

| Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each
| newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name):

 Your Vote   Newsgroup
 ---------   -----------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.org.usenix (moderated)

======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============


comp.org.usenix Bounce List - Please contact me about your vote
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[email protected]                                     Howard Lem
[email protected]                                            Bill Pechter
[email protected]                                                       STella

This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997).
PQ datestamp: 980110

-- 
Voting address: [email protected]

From [email protected] Sun Aug  2 22:15:05 1998
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Neil Crellin 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.usenix
Subject: RESULT: moderate comp.org.usenix fails 108:19
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
Archive-Name: comp.org.usenix
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 05:11:56 GMT
Lines: 203
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10513 news.groups:293307 comp.org.usenix:8038

                                RESULT
moderated group comp.org.usenix (moderates existing group) fails 108:19

There were 108 YES votes and 19 NO votes, for a total of 127 valid
votes.  There were 2 abstentions and 1 invalid ballot.

For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  Unless
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group
may not be voted on again for six months.

Newsgroups line:
comp.org.usenix		USENIX Association announcements, discussions. (Moderated)

The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 31 Jul 1998.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Ellie Young 
Proponent: Toni Veglia 
Votetaker: Neil Crellin 

RATIONALE: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix receives a substantial number of inappropriate
postings.  This interferes with the intended use of the newsgroup.
It is a vehicle for the USENIX Association to send announcements to
its members and a venue for its members to engage in discussion of
technological information and ideas pertaining to advanced computing
systems research and tools.  We would like to change the status of
the newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated in an attempt to reduce
the number of inappropriate postings.

CHARTER: comp.org.usenix

Comp.org.usenix is intended to be a forum for announcements and
discussion pertaining to the USENIX Association.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.org.usenix

Moderator: Toni Veglia 
Moderator: Jackson Dodd 
Administrative contact address: [email protected]
Article submission address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.



comp.org.usenix Final Voter list

Voted YES
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Clyde_Poole [at] yes.optus.com.au                               Clyde T. Poole
david+usenet [at] unico.com.au                                       David Goh
mlh [at] zip.com.au                                           Matthew Hannigan
terminus [at] odyssey.apana.org.au                              Jeremy Malcolm
wkt [at] cs.adfa.oz.au                                           Warren Toomey
rich [at] vax2.concordia.ca                                      Rich Lafferty
kmckinla [at] echelon.ca                                      Kenneth McKinlay
chriseb [at] nortel.ca                                          Chris Ebenezer
vanepp [at] sfu.ca                                               Peter Van Epp
bedmonds [at] cs.ubc.ca                                          Brian Edmonds
howard [at] cquest.utoronto.ca                                      Howard Lem
stefano [at] galileo.pr.net.ch                            Stefano Unternaehrer
thogard [at] abnormal.com                                           Tim Hogard
robert [at] ns.agresource.com                                    Robert Bonomi
douglis [at] research.att.com                                     Fred Douglis
tal [at] dnrc.bell-labs.com                                     Tom Limoncelli
kimdv [at] best.com                                               Kim DeVaughn
kolstad [at] BSDI.COM                                              Rob Kolstad
booda [at] datasync.com                                        Martin H. Booda
guymacon [at] deltanet.com                   [email protected] (Guy Macon)
julesd [at] edifax.com                                            Jules Dubois
mjohnson [at] enteract.com                                        Mark Johnson
scox [at] factset.com                                                 Sean Cox
harter [at] feeding.frenzy.com                          Sam Hayes Merritt, III
jsd [at] gamespot.com                                              Jon Drukman
curtis_whalen+usenet [at] geocities.com                 Curtis (Jewell) Whalen
paulc [at] grumman.com                                             Paul Curran
Scott.Hall [at] GSC.GTE.Com                                      Scott G, Hall
dougob [at] javanet.com                                             D. O'brien
jpeek [at] jpeek.com                                                Jerry Peek
berry [at] kerch.com                                           Berry Kercheval
chris [at] kzim.com                                Christopher Robin Zimmerman
tbaca [at] lascruces.com                                        Thomas L. Baca
cipher [at] mindspring.com                                              Cipher
jrl [at] msbit.com                                                  Jim Lawson
salazar [at] ix.netcom.com                                  Richard G. Salazar
simpson [at] netcom.com                                            Bob Simpson
source [at] netcom.com                                            David Harmon
pckizer [at] nostrum.com                                       Philip C. Kizer
dc [at] panix.com                                            David W. Crawford
tindall [at] panix.com                                           Bruce Tindall
clapper [at] platinum.com                                     Brian M. Clapper
mra [at] pobox.com                                                 Mark Atwood
ggr [at] qualcomm.com                                                Greg Rose
jtk [at] Rational.Com                                                John Kohl
pshuang [at] engr.sgi.com                                           Ping Huang
f.c.w.donck [at] siep.shell.com                                     Fred Donck
Dmckeon [at] swcp.com                                             Denis McKeon
rboerger [at] austx.tandem.com                                     Ron Boerger
arielle [at] taronga.com                                    Stephanie da Silva
daver [at] teleport.com                                David Franklin Reynolds
Steve_Lammert [at] transarc.com                                  Steve Lammert
pace [at] ncal.verio.com                                         James E. Pace
ssantoro [at] voicetek.com                                     Stefano Santoro
Ekkehard.Uthke [at] gmx.de                                      Ekkehard Uthke
torex [at] kholdan.snafu.de                                             Tobias
jdavis [at] lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU                                   Jim Davis
gretchen [at] buffalo.edu                                    Gretchen Phillips
mg [at] duke.edu                                                 Michael Grubb
hh299 [at] cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                Jim Baranovich
dshaw [at] cs.jhu.edu                                               David Shaw
ecf [at] psc.edu                                              Esther Filderman
wdmaddox [at] rice.edu                                             Bill Maddox
jhowatt [at] phydeaux.mims.selu.edu                             James W Howatt
binde [at] cs.swarthmore.edu                                  Melissa D. Binde
ellenm [at] storm.net.tamu.edu                                  Ellen Mitchell
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu                                           Richard Miller
kat [at] yensid.ics.uci.edu                                       Kat Fielding
hermit [at] cats.ucsc.edu                                       William R Ward
escowles [at] gort.ucsd.edu                                  Kevin Esme Cowles
bjones [at] weber.ucsd.edu                                         Bruce Jones
lopezwal [at] ifp.uiuc.edu                              Gabriel C. Lopez-Walle
honey [at] citi.umich.edu                                       peter honeyman
bill [at] cs.uofs.edu                                          Bill Gunshannon
derick [at] valinor.med.utah.edu                               Derick Siddoway
rufinus [at] mbe.ece.wisc.edu                                        J Rufinus
jpc [at] drum.msfc.nasa.gov                                    J. Porter Clark
ies [at] nas.nasa.gov                                         Ian E. Stockdale
de5-uvv [at] sws5.ctd.ornl.gov                                       Dave Sill
moshez [at] math.huji.ac.il                                        Moshe Zadka
brisker [at] actcom.co.il                                        Tomer Brisker
dido [at] trivenet.it                                            Paolo Didone`
wacko [at] laplace.snu.ac.kr                                      Yoo C. Chung
tes [at] zombie.ncsc.mil                                          Terry Suitor
scs [at] ans.net                                                 Steve Simmons
rme [at] nightfly.apk.net                                   R. Matthew Emerson
rmorrow [at] delfax.net                                            Rick Morrow
david [at] more.net                                              David K. Drum
dougob [at] netscape.net                                    Douglas D. O'Brien
wakelyn [at] pinn.net                                            N. T. Wakelyn
ssm [at] rlyeh.net                                      Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
mkc [at] sky.net                                                  Mike Coleman
ketilk [at] a.sol.no                                   Ketil Kirkerud Elgethun
nate [at] acm.org                                               Nathan Burnett
bkuhn [at] ebb.org                                             Bradley M. Kuhn
sthoenna [at] efn.org                                     Allen Scott-Thoennes
rone [at] ennui.org                                              Ron Echeverri
Bob.Goolsby [at] ncal.kaiperm.org                                  Bob Goolsby
junga [at] leo.org                                                  Achim Jung
wist [at] ex.MuFFiN.Org                                            Henrik Wist
djb [at] scream.org                                               Dan Birchall
diane [at] usenix.ORG                                          DIANE DEMARTINI
toni [at] usenix.ORG                                               Toni Veglia
Michael.Salmon [at] uab.ericsson.se                             Michael Salmon
Mats.Palmgren [at] mailbox.swipnet.se                            Mats Palmgren
avatar [at] arkane.demon.co.uk                            Alistair J. R. Young
Hammy [at] croila.demon.co.uk                                      Hamish Bell
murble [at] xencat.demon.co.uk                                William Boughton

Voted NO
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eromero [at] alumnos.utfsm.cl                                   Eduardo Romero
sforsell [at] aol.com                                            Scott Forsell
stainles [at] bga.com                                             Dwight Brown
bob149 [at] efortress.com                                        Bob Blanchard
jfn [at] enteract.com                                              J.F. Nelson
tjmc [at] enteract.com                                                    tjmc
toejam_78 [at] hotmail.com                                    Hymie Podnorwich
olav [at] viking.mv.com                                        Olav Nieuwejaar
tgm [at] netcom.com                                       Thomas G. McWilliams
votefraud [at] tech-center.com                               Valerie Votefraud
Jason_Gait [at] transarc.com                                        Jason Gait
jlowther [at] pwa.acusd.edu                                       John Lowther
mike2 [at] hcs.harvard.edu                                        Mike Epstein
k95dl01 [at] cc.kzoo.edu                                            Dan Lawson
plwong [at] isa.com.hk                                            Wong Pan Lit
pbern7 [at] earthlink.net                                       Paul Bernhardt
vpdura [at] hiwaay.net                                                Vic Dura
domo [at] computer.org                                          Dominic Dunlop
pechter [at] pechter.dyn.ml.org                                   Bill Pechter

Abstained
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jefferyhunt [at] altavista.net                                 Jeffery D. Hunt
mjo [at] dojo.mi.org                                             Mike O'Connor

Invalid votes
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stella [at] magenta.com                                                 STella
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