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From: Keith Woodworth 
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Subject: RFD: rec.crafts.woodworking.{info,marketplace,misc,plans}
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Date: 19 Sep 1994 16:11:29 -0400
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Hello Everyone,

  There has been much talk in rec.woodworking about splitting it into 
subgroups.  I feel that changes should be made to soon as opposed to 
late.  With that in mind, I submit the following.  Your thoughts or 
changes are appreciated.  This naming is in part to convert from 
rec.woodworking to rec.crafts.woodworking.misc, this is at the advice of 
[email protected]
  
  In large part these changes are based on the fact that many of 
rec.woodworking's readers , pay a connect time and/or a disk usage based 
fees.  I personally have a Unix shell account, so these consideration do 
not effect me.  I feel, however that it is only reasonable to take these 
changes into consideration. 

  I would like to thank the following for their input Eric Kasten, Chris 
Paris, Andrew J Rappaport, David C Lawrence, and Mark Moraes.
 
___________________________________________________

1st Formal REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

There has been much talk in rec.crafts.woodworking about splitting into 
subgroups. I would like to discuss the following changes.  With the 
addition of three new subgroups, the heiarchy would be.

   rec.crafts.woodworking.misc
   rec.crafts.woodworking.marketplace
   rec.crafts.woodworking.plans
   rec.crafts.woodworking.info
 
This is the 1st formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the 
reorganization of the newsgroup of rec.woodworking. The charter and goals 
of rec.crafts.woodworking.misc would not be changed from the original 
rec.woodworking.  All responses and discussion should be directed to the 
newsgroup called news.groups.  Please do not cross post to other groups.  
Groups receiving this RFD are listed below in the section entitled CROSS 
POSTINGS.

This is not a Call For Votes (CFV).  A call for votes will be issued to 
the same groups in which this message appears in 21 to 30 days from the 
date that this message first appears.  Voting will then be handled by a 
neutral third party.  Predicted voting period: 10/18/94 - 11/18/94 if all 
goes well.

The goals of the Request For Discussion are three:

1) Define names for these groups,
2) Define charter for these groups,
3) Decide on whether these groups are to be moderated or unmoderated.

THE 1ST RFD:

          Group Names: rec.crafts.woodworking.marketplace
               Status: unmoderated
         Distribution: worldwide
              Summary: Noncommercial sale of all aspects of 
                       woodworking tools, and materials, 
  Group Proposal From: Keith Woodworth, [email protected]


1ST CHARTER:

 - Topics directly or closely related to the sale of woodworking
   tools and materials
   - Used Tools
     - power tools,
     - hand tools,
   - Materials
     - lumber
     - standing trees
     - logs
     - woodworking books
     - woodworking magazines

RATIONALE & BACKGROUND

There is an increasing volume of traffic currently in rec.woodworking 
that discusses items advertised for sale.  Many members of 
rec.woodworking are not interested in receiving these posts.  

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup rec.crafts.woodworking.marketplace 
will be open to the posting of noncommercial adds regarding the sale of 
woodworking tools and material:
____________________________________________________________________

THE 1ST RFD:

          Group Names: rec.crafts.woodworking.info
               Status: Moderated
         Moderator(s): Keith Woodworth 
                       ???
         Distribution: worldwide
              Summary: Posting of FAQs and information regarding all
                       aspects of woodworking tools, and materials, as
                       discussed in rec.crafts.woodworking.misc 
  Group Proposal From: Keith Woodworth, [email protected]

1ST CHARTER:

 - FAQs directly or closely related to woodworking tools and materials
   - Tools
     - new & used power tools,
     - new & used hand tools,
     - the B&G series
   - Materials
     - lumber
     - motors
     - electrical
     
RATIONALE & BACKGROUND

There is an small volume of traffic currently in rec.woodworking that 
discusses these items, while volume is small each of these posts is quite 
long.  Many members of rec.woodworking are not interested in reading 
these posts.  

The proposed moderated newsgroup rec.crafts.woodworking.info will be open 
to the posting of FAQs, both official and unoffical regarding woodworking 
tools and material:

___________________________________________________________________


THE 1ST RFD:

          Group Names: rec.crafts.woodworking.plans
               Status: Moderated
         Moderator(s): Keith Woodworth 
                       Eric Kasten 
                       ???
         Distribution: worldwide
              Summary: Posting of plans regarding all aspects of 
                       woodworking tools, and designs, as discussed
                       in rec.crafts.woodworking.misc
              Archive: petroglyph.cl.msu.edu:/pub/woodwork/images/furniture
              Replace: alt.binaries.furniture
  Group Proposal From: Keith Woodworth, [email protected]


1ST CHARTER:

 - posts of plans directly or closely related to woodworking
   tools, shop, and furniture designs
   - Tools
     - shop jigs,
     - changes to existing equipment,
   - Shop Plans
     - physical layout
     - electrical layout
     - lighting layout

   - Furniture designs
     - shop drawings
     - joinery drawings and questions
     
RATIONALE & BACKGROUND

There is an small volume of traffic currently in rec.woodworking that 
discusses these items, while volume is small each of these posts is quite 
long.   

The proposed moderated newsgroup rec.crafts.woodworking.plans will be 
open to the posting of plans, regarding all aspects of woodworking.  
Discusions of those plans will be held in rec.crafts.woodworking.misc:

CROSS POSTINGS

This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups for discussion.  Note
If a Usenet reader cross-posts the RFD his/herself, then just make sure 
you place news.groups (only!) as the follow-up newsgroup:

                     Newsgroup 
                    -----------   
                     news.announce.newgroups
                     news.groups
                     rec.woodworking
                     alt.binaries.furniture