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Sourdough (rec.food.sourdough)

From dadams@cherry.cray.com Tue May 12 11:08:30 1992
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From: dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: RFD:  rec.crafts.sourdough
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	I would like to open discussion for the formation of the 
	following newsgroup:

Name:	rec.crafts.sourdough

Proposed Charter:

	This group is intended for discussing the hobby or craft of 
	baking with sourdough.

 	We are not just a recipe group, Our charter is to discuss the 
	care, feeding, and breeding of yeasts and lactobacilli that make up 
	sourdough cultures.  Also to discuss where and how to obtain breeding 
	stock, how to preserve by drying, refrigeration, and freezing.  How 
	to swap cultures in the mail, and how to use these cultures to make 
	food.  This necessasarily involves swapping recipes, but that is not 
	our major goal.

        For the most part we believe that most of the members in this group
	will be interested in the biology of what is going on, and would like 
	to know the names of the micro organisms that are making the whole 
	thing work.


Sample topics:
    

	Swaping sourdough recipes.
	Where do I get a culture?
	How do I take care of and feed my culture?
	Modifying recipes for sourdough.
	Using your bread-machine with sourdough.
	sourdough bread history.

	Also included in the discussion would be some related 
	topics such as:
                yogurt making
		Biology of yeasts & lactobacilli  etc.


Status:

        Unmoderated.  It is not suspected that this group would
        have a controversial nature, and hence the services of a
        moderator are deemed unnecessary.

Rationale and History:

        This group is meant, at least in part, to be a permanent
        home for the sourdough mailing list which has been in
        operation since the beginning of the year.  Since that
        time we have had a very active and lively discussion.
        We submit our experience as proof that this group can and will 
	sustain a traffic level appropriate for a USENET newsgroup.  
	Archives of our past discussions, along with several FAQ files 
	prepared for the group have been made available via anonymous ftp
        from ftp.ils.nwu.edu under the directory pub/sourdough.

        Many of those who subscribe to this mailing list have expressed
        a desire to move to a USENET format, and this seems to be
        the current consensus of the list.  (Although it is not
        assumed that they will ALL vote in favor of the creation
        of this group when the discussion comes to a CFV.)

Mechanics:
	The archives for this group will continue to be kept at
	ftp.ils.nwu.edu in the pub/sourdough directory.  A mail
	link will be set up so that those who are unable to move
	to the USENET will be able to continue in the discussion.


        When we get to the CFV stage we hope to make use of automated
        voting software that news.groups readers have offered.

--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
__________________________________________________________________
Did you know that most Americans eat over a ton of dirt every day?

From dadams@cray.com Fri Jun 19 13:24:47 1992
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From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: CFV: rec.food.sourdough
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	This is the first call for votes regarding rec.food.sourdough

Name:	rec.food.sourdough

Proposed Charter:

	This group is intended for discussing the hobby or craft of 
	baking with sourdough.

 	We are not just a recipe group, Our charter is to discuss the 
	care, feeding, and breeding of yeasts and lactobacilli that make up 
	sourdough cultures.  Also to discuss where and how to obtain breeding 
	stock, how to preserve by drying, refrigeration, and freezing.  How 
	to swap cultures in the mail, and how to use these cultures to make 
	food.  This necessasarily involves swapping recipes, but that is not 
	our major goal.

        For the most part we believe that most of the members in this group
	will be interested in the biology of what is going on, and would like 
	to know the names of the micro organisms that are making the whole 
	thing work.


Sample topics:
    

	Swapping sourdough recipes.
	Where do I get a culture?
	How do I take care of and feed my culture?
	Modifying recipes for sourdough.
	Using your bread-machine with sourdough.

	Also included in the discussion would be some related 
	topics such as:
                yogurt making
		Biology of yeasts & lactobacilli  etc.


Status:

        Unmoderated.  It is not suspected that this group would
        have a controversial nature, and hence the services of a
        moderator are deemed unnecessary.

Rationale and History:

        This group is meant, at least in part, to be a permanent
        home for the sourdough mailing list which has been in
        operation since the beginning of the year.  Since that
        time we have had a very active and lively discussion.
        We submit our experience as proof that this group can and will 
	sustain a traffic level appropriate for a USENET newsgroup.  
	Archives of our past discussions, along with several FAQ files 
	prepared for the group have been made available via anonymous ftp
        from ftp.ils.nwu.edu under the directory pub/sourdough.

        Many of those who subscribe to this mailing list have expressed
        a desire to move to a USENET format, and this seems to be
        the current consensus of the list.  (Although it is not
        assumed that they will ALL vote in favor of the creation
        of this group.)

Mechanics:
	The archives for this group will continue to be kept at
	ftp.ils.nwu.edu in the pub/sourdough directory.  A mail
	link will be set up so that those who are unable to move
	to the USENET will be able to continue in the discussion.


VOTING INSTRUCTIONS:

Do not post your vote, it will not be counted. The reply-to address of
this posting should point to the correct place, but double check your
mail before sending to make sure.

To cast a vote, send mail to

   "mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu"

with ONE of the following strings (you don't need the quotes)

   "vote rec.food.sourdough yes"
   "vote rec.food.sourdough no"

on a line by itself in the subject field or body of the message, where

"yes" means that you DO     want rec.food.sourdough created.
"no"  means that you DO NOT want rec.food.sourdough created.


* The deadline is 11:59:59 PM Fri 18-Jul-1992, EDT (GMT - 4).
* The mail server will reply within two hours confirming your vote.
  If no confirmation is received (allowing for normal E-mail round
  trip time), you may inquire at postmaster@pit-manager.mit.edu to 
  verify that the vote was received.
* If your mail message contains a signature, then be sure to put the
  string "quit" before it to prevent the mail server from being confused.
* DO NOT mail votes to David Adams <dadams@cray.com>
* DO NOT mail votes to jik@mit.edu.
* DO NOT include any message in your vote (it won't be read).

The CFV will be posted indivudually to the sourdough mailing list, and
the Bread machine mailing list.

--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
__________________________________________________________________
Did you know that most Americans eat over a ton of dirt every day?

From dadams@cray.com Wed Jul  1 16:34:40 1992
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From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.food.sourdough
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        This is the second call for votes regarding rec.food.sourdough.
	A mass acknowledgement is included at the end of the post.

Name:   rec.food.sourdough

Proposed Charter:

        This group is intended for discussing the hobby or craft of 
        baking with sourdough.

        We are not just a recipe group, Our charter is to discuss the 
        care, feeding, and breeding of yeasts and lactobacilli that make up 
        sourdough cultures.  Also to discuss where and how to obtain breeding 
        stock, how to preserve by drying, refrigeration, and freezing.  How 
        to swap cultures in the mail, and how to use these cultures to make 
        food.  This necessasarily involves swapping recipes, but that is not 
        our major goal.

        For the most part we believe that most of the members in this group
        will be interested in the biology of what is going on, and would like 
        to know the names of the micro organisms that are making the whole 
        thing work.


Sample topics:
    

        Swapping sourdough recipes.
        Where do I get a culture?
        How do I take care of and feed my culture?
        Modifying recipes for sourdough.
        Using your bread-machine with sourdough.

        Also included in the discussion would be some related 
        topics such as:
                yogurt making
                Biology of yeasts & lactobacilli  etc.


Status:

        Unmoderated.  It is not suspected that this group would
        have a controversial nature, and hence the services of a
        moderator are deemed unnecessary.

Rationale and History:

        This group is meant, at least in part, to be a permanent
        home for the sourdough mailing list which has been in
        operation since the beginning of the year.  Since that
        time we have had a very active and lively discussion.
        We submit our experience as proof that this group can and will 
        sustain a traffic level appropriate for a USENET newsgroup.  
        Archives of our past discussions, along with several FAQ files 
        prepared for the group have been made available via anonymous ftp
        from ftp.ils.nwu.edu under the directory pub/sourdough.

        Many of those who subscribe to this mailing list have expressed
        a desire to move to a USENET format, and this seems to be
        the current consensus of the list.  (Although it is not
        assumed that they will ALL vote in favor of the creation
        of this group.)

Mechanics:
        The archives for this group will continue to be kept at
        ftp.ils.nwu.edu in the pub/sourdough directory.  A mail
        link will be set up so that those who are unable to move
        to the USENET will be able to continue in the discussion.


VOTING INSTRUCTIONS:

Do not post your vote, it will not be counted. The reply-to address of
this posting should point to the correct place, but double check your
mail before sending to make sure.

To cast a vote, send mail to

   "mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu"

with ONE of the following strings (you don't need the quotes)

   "vote rec.food.sourdough yes"
   "vote rec.food.sourdough no"

on a line by itself in the subject field or body of the message, where

"yes" means that you DO     want rec.food.sourdough created.
"no"  means that you DO NOT want rec.food.sourdough created.


* The deadline is 11:59:59 PM Fri 18-Jul-1992, EDT (GMT - 4).
* The mail server will reply within two hours confirming your vote.
  If no confirmation is received (allowing for normal E-mail round
  trip time), you may inquire at postmaster@pit-manager.mit.edu to 
  verify that the vote was received.
* If your mail message contains a signature, then be sure to put the
  string "quit" before it to prevent the mail server from being confused.
* DO NOT mail votes to David Adams <dadams@cray.com>
* DO NOT mail votes to jik@mit.edu.
* DO NOT include any message in your vote (it won't be read).

The CFV will be posted indivudually to the sourdough mailing list, and
the Bread machine mailing list.

--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
__________________________________________________________________
Did you know that most Americans eat over a ton of dirt every day?


The following people have registered valid votes as of 
this morning at midnight:

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xxbrent@porrima.lerc.nasa.gov (Brent Anderson)
young@serum.clpd.Kodak.COM (Rich Young (x37176))
gtephx!yountm@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Marvin Yount)
dadstoy!zatar@cs.utexas.edu (Terry Stockdale)
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From dadams@cherry.cray.com Tue Jul 21 17:08:37 1992
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2557 news.groups:54517 rec.antiques:1060 rec.food.cooking:46610 rec.crafts.brewing:5335 misc.rural:4350 rec.food.veg:20030 rec.food.drink:11909
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: RESULT: rec.food.sourdough passes 202: 38
Message-ID: <1992Jul21.192715.4937@uunet.uu.net>
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Here is the vote result on the issue of creating the Usenet
Newsgroup rec.food.sourdough.  202 yes to 38 no.  The vote 
was taken by automatic vote counting software at jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU.

"yes" votes (202):

DOUG <@vms3.macc.wisc.edu:DOUG@SEL2.DecNet>
adzhoss@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Dutch)
AIW@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
akerson@srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp)
alg@cs.cornell.edu (Anne Louise Gockel)
amyk@netcom.com (Amy Kurtzman)
Andre Lehovich <ANDREL@brownvm.brown.edu>
Andy.Behrens@coat.com
Andy Bond <andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
annie@cs.swarthmore.edu (Annie Fetter)
artc@Atex.Kodak.COM
Matthew Asplund <ASPLUNDM@VANLAB.BYU.EDU>
HURN SMITH <B79243631@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU>
bae@auspex.com (Brian Ehrmantraut)
Bob Belas <belas@comb3.comb.umd.edu>
blue@cam.nist.gov (Jim Blue)
bndixon@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (dixon bradford n)
bnoble@BACH.CODA.CS.CMU.EDU
Bob Fields <bob@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk>
"Bob Billson" <bob@kc2wz.bubble.org>
buglady@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Aliza R. Panitz)
bwalther@ccs.carleton.ca (Bill Walther)
Roger Campbell <CAMPBELL@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
carroll@asw.ds.boeing.com (Bill Carroll)
"Ruthmary Macpherson"  <CAT3@admin.acadiau.ca>
cbenson@adobe.com (Craig Benson)
ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
celia@ssc-bee.boeing.com (Celia H Modell)
charlto@ubitrex.mb.ca (Mike Charlton)
sunne!cjowett@abvax.icd.ab.com (Charles E. Jowett)
close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
codge@festival.Canal.ORG (Codge)
cplma@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Lynn Alford)
crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
d-yang@ground.cs.columbia.edu (David Yang)
Jana Krause <D1JMR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
dadams@cherry.cray.com (David Adams)
Deborah Jones <daj@npac.syr.edu>
dales@tekcci.cci.tek.com (Dale D. Snell)
Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM
DANCER@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
danf@sherpa.com ("Dan Ford")
davechao@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (David Yung-Min Bowser Chao)
Dave Jerzycki <daveje@gr.hp.com>
Dave Uebele <daveu@sco.COM>
David Taylor <DAVID@phillip.edu.au>
davidsen@crd.GE.COM (bill davidsen)
Deborah Branton<moksha!db@bikini.cis.ufl.edu>
dbell@cup.portal.com
DBERNATH@jpl-pds.jpl.nasa.gov
Dave Sill <de5@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
debbie@concannon.llnl.gov (Debra A. Callahan)
decker@ariel.cs.umass.edu
delisle@eskimo.celestial.com (Ben Delisle)
Life is real? <dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU>
djdeeds@hac2arpa.hac.com (Deanna J. Deeds)
dkl@xcluud.sccsi.com (David Karl Leikam)
Don Dillon <dondd@hpmwetg.sr.hp.com>
donna@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donna Whitlinger)
douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis)
Deb Perkins <dperkins@andromeda.iupui.edu>
Douglass J. Renze <drenze@icaen.uiowa.edu>
dspicer@orca.fhcrc.org (Debbie Spicer)
dsr@philabs.Philips.Com  (Deborah S. Rech)
Dwight Starr <dstarr@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
dudek@ksr.com (Glen Dudek)
"Tim (T.K.) Dudley" <dudley@x400gate.bnr.ca>
dwyer@zoo.cs.umass.edu
ELEMENT@XRAY.BYU.EDU
EMW@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
julie england <england@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
<eperelso@NMSU.Edu>
erich@wubios.wustl.edu (Erich Schraer)
eurquhar@sfu.ca
Frank Eugene Kietzke <fk03+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Margot Flowers <flowers@CS.UCLA.EDU>
crash!loral!fm@nosc.mil (Frank Morrison)
Frank Hamlin <frankh@hpnmlr5.sr.hp.com>
fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz)
gandhi3@husc.harvard.edu
gdunn@vlbacc.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Gene Dunn)
gypsy@jupiter.nmt.edu (Christina White)
BETH HAMM <hammb@rimail.interlan.com>
James Harvey <HARVEY@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU>
heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr)
gtephx!herrj@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Jim Herr)
hyler@ast.saic.com (Buffy Hyler)
IBOWMAN@beach.gal.utexas.edu (INCI BOWMAN)
jackson1@ihlpl.att.com (Michael Jackson)
Jane Marcus <janem@hpfclg.fc.hp.com>
janet@saffron.Stanford.EDU
"SCOTT JANZ" <janz@lpr.umd.edu>
"JCARSON.US" <JCARSON@us.oracle.com>
jclose@ads.com
jimp@uucp (Jim Prall)
JMCEVOY@CC.CEU.EDU
Johanna.Uhlin@ludd.luth.se
johnson@ssv004.ssd.loral.com (Christopher Johnson)
Tairatelorp <JYANOWITZ@hamp.hampshire.edu>
Julie A. Kangas <kangas@aero.org>
Kenneth C. Rich <kenr@bridge.cc.rochester.edu>
kevin@iscmed.med.ge.com (Kevin Sears x3-5160)
kevin@simd.stanford.edu (Kevin W. Rudd)
kowtko@cogsci.edinburgh.ac.uk
ktk@nas.nasa.gov (Katy T. Kislitzin)
Lawrence Allen Hite <lah1l@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU>
larrys@cc.snow.edu
"Linda L. Dujmic" <ld1j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
lewin@asterix.ipgp.jussieu.fr (LEWIN Eric)
lgold@Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Linda Wald <linda@math.ucla.edu>
Ross Livingston <livings@cs.utah.edu>
lliou@sdcc3.UCSD.EDU (Lily Liou )
<LNF@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Lori (L.) Ciaralli <LOREDANA@BNR.CA>
lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden, x2487)
malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy)
mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann)
mauthe@aclcb.purdue.edu
mccoy@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Jim Mccoy)
Michael Cerreto <mcerreto@BBN.COM>
mgolden@zip.eecs.umich.edu
"Michele M. Kapur" <mk00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Tom Molnar <molnar@utcs.utoronto.ca>
Marianne Reed <MREED%UKANVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Marc D Rovner <mrovner@ic.sunysb.edu>
mthome@BBN.COM
David Auerbach <N51L5201@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu>
nkn@Solbourne.COM (Neil Nelson)
Nicki A Stassen Lantz <nstassen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
O6Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
objy!server!linda@Sun.COM
Oral <oral@gps.mit.edu>
pab@lucid.com (Peter Benson)
Penny Padgett <PADGETT@INTELLICORP.COM>
Paul Palmer <palmerp@MATH.ORST.EDU>
Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
pcg@panix.com (Paul Gallagher)
pdc@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Close)
pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
pebrier@srv.PacBell.COM (Paul Brierley)
penneyj@SLC.COM (D. Jason Penney)
Peter.Parnes@ludd.luth.se
"Ron Pluth" <PLUTH@AUSVMV.VNET.IBM.COM>
Ken Pollard <pollard@u.washington.edu>
pon@etec.com (Michael Pon)
popcorn@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Valerie Mates)
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
Alice Ramirez <ramirez@math.ucla.edu>
ramsey@CS.UCLA.EDU
rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix)
rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman)
rich@grayhawk.rent.com (Richard Harms)
STUART <RIGGSBY@utkvx.utk.edu>
"R. Mark Jones" <rmark@access.digex.com>
rodahl@watsci.waterloo.edu
rogerp@amgen.com (Roger Parks)
"Greg Roody - (508) 841-7122" <roody@whzguy.shr3.dec.com>
root@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sys Admin (williams))
ross@unirsvl.RSVL.UNISYS.COM
<RPT378%MAINE.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
russellb@cc.snow.edu
s3451843@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Amy Gomersal)
sandy@Cyanamid.COM (Sandy Silverman)
Bonnie Allen <SASBEA@VM.SAS.COM>
senetza@xi.uleth.ca (Len Senetza)
sgl@spatial.com (Steven G. Lanaghen)
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
"Janice A Singer" <singer@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
"KAREN SLUZENSKI" <sluzenski@oak.dartmouth.edu>
Seismo Malm <sm@palikka.jyu.fi>
soltesz@cnad.ml.nec.com^I(John Soltesz)
steved@longs.lance.colostate.edu
Carol Stidham <stidhat@u.washington.edu>
Stu Labovitz <stu@valinor.mythical.com>
Susan McIntosh <SUSANMC%NERVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
swildner@channelz.GUN.de
"ACAD3A::SXRMH1"  <SXRMH1%ALASKA.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Ted.Taylor@p4214.f104.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ted Taylor)
thomase@tekig5.pen.tek.com
thy@banshee.camb.inmet.com (Tom Yelton)
Thomas Lee Horton <tlh8c@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU>
todd@reed.edu (Todd Ellner)
tracy@apollo.hp.com
troyer@ips.id.ethz.ch
tyk@npac.syr.edu
Anthony Thomas Cusack <u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au>
VANFLEETR@PHYSC3.BYU.EDU
vida@bucrsb.bu.edu
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
Nancy <wallace@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
wcr@rsch.oclc.org (Will C. Ray)
22-Jun-1992 1628 <wikoff@scurvy.ENET.dec.com>
wmoore@mprgate.mpr.ca (Wendy Moore)
wsmith@imagine.convex.com (Wade Smith)
Bill Venables <wvenable@stats.adelaide.edu.au>
xxbrent@porrima.lerc.nasa.gov (Brent Anderson)
gtephx!yountm@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Marvin Yount)
dadstoy!zatar@cs.utexas.edu (Terry Stockdale)

"no" votes (38):

ask@cblph.att.com
Tim Becker <becker@cs.rochester.edu>
brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent J. Krawchuk)
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher)
David Sewell <dsew@troi.cc.rochester.edu>
ecl@mtgzy.att.com (Evelyn C Leeper +1 908 957 2070)
homebru!smith!dick@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com
jbuck@ohm.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Buck)
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
JLM%SLACVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
johnf@apollo.hp.com
Joel Sax <jsax@igc.org>
Roland Kaltefleiter <kaltef@theo-physik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn)
kenney@hsi86.hsi.com (Brian Kenney)
Kjetil Torgrim Homme <kjetilho@ifi.uio.no>
telesys!kreed@telesys.tnet.com@ennews.eas.asu.edu (Kevin W. Reed)
kyasuda@ecn.purdue.edu (Ken Yasuda)
larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence)
Laura Gillespie <laura@tsdiag.ocpt.ccur.com>
lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
mark@hsi86.hsi.com (Mark Sicignano)
mhpower@stan.mit.edu
Michael Bryan <michael@resonex.com>
moriarty@tc.fluke.com (Jeff Meyer)
Alexander Pilger <pilger@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
pl157949@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Gabriel Garza)
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
"K. W. WELCH" <RIAWELCH@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu>
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rmosher@mdd.comm.mot.com (Richard Mosher)
schaller@hsi86.hsi.com (Dave V. Schaller)
shimeall@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall)
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
tgt@cbfsa.att.com
eliot!usisun.LOCAL!judiths@uunet.UU.NET (Judith Speck)
Phil Weiss <weiss872@snake.cs.uidaho.edu>
young@serum.clpd.Kodak.COM (Rich Young (x37176))
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--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
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