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From: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.chem.organomet,sci.chem.labware,sci.chem.analytical
Subject: RFD: sci.chem.organic.synthesis moderated
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group sci.chem.organic.synthesis
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup sci.chem.organic.synthesis.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.
Newsgroup line:
sci.chem.organic.synthesis Synthetic organic chemistry related topics. (Moderated)
RATIONALE: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Synthetic organic chemistry touches many disciplines. Besides the
synthesis and isolation of compounds at the bench, organic chemists
have to be familiar with literature searching, analytical techniques,
computer applications etc. Currently, two mailing lists (ORGCHEM and
NAPRONET) cover the organic synthesis part but traffic on these lists
is rather limited. Other topics of interest for organic chemists are
spread out over a wide variety of newsgroups (sci.chem,
sci.chem.organomet, sci.chem.labware, sci.chem.analytical,
sci.polymers, sci.chem.research, sci.techniques.mag-resonance,
sci.techniques.mass-spec, misc.jobs.fieds.chemistry,
sci.research.careers, sci.research.postdoc) and mailing lists
(CHMINF-L, CICOURSE, BUCKY, POST, SAFETY, STR-NMR, YSN, BIBSOFT), but
it is close to impossible to monitor and filter out useful information
on a daily basis.
CHARTER: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
A newsgroup exclusively for synthetic organic chemists (audience-
specific and not subject-specific) will create a dynamic virtual
meeting place for fellow scientists and an excellent current awareness
tool.
Possible discussion issues include:
Organic synthesis reactions and mechanisms, Organic synthesis
literature, Purification and analysis of organic compounds, Commercial
availability of reagents, Laboratory hints, Laboratory safety,
Announcements (Upcoming organic synthesis conferences, New useful
WWW-sites for organic chemists, Job openings, New organic chemistry
literature or software)
Policy towards commercial activity:
Although many newsgroups strictly prohibit any commercial activity, it
is important that organic chemists stay in touch with 'the commercial
world'. Therefore, it is permitted for (commercial) organizations to
post novel applications under a single condition: The subject line
must start with the term ANNOUNCEMENT:. In this way, uninterested
readers are not forced to browse these postings.
Not permitted postings include:
Anything out of touch with the synthetic organic field, Any commercial
activity that is not an announcement of a new product, Any offensive
language, Any formal or hidden request for synthesis of illegal
compounds.
Signature policy:
At the end of each article, a full name and e-mail address is
mandatory. Listing of position and association is optional but
strongly encouraged.
Moderation policies:
This proposal is pro moderation to filter out unwanted (see not
permitted postings) and 'anonymous' (see signature policy) messages.
Although there are some disadvantages associated with moderated
groups - some people compare it with censorship and it slows down
the discussion - , sci.* groups have been plagued before with off-
topic discussions which eventually turned users away.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Moderator: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
The goal is to set up a team of volunteer moderators from academy
and industry. A Ph.D. in organic synthesis is a minimum
requirement. Their work mainly involves granting approval of the
message to be posted. Besides workload reduction, the advantage of a
team is the possibility to ask for second opinion upon approval of an
article. Rejected but 'goodwill' postings will be send to originator
with a short explanation. If interested, please post your application to
news.groups or contact Koen Van Aken for more information.
END MODERATOR INFO.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for a discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call
For Votes may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup
creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet
Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group
Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in
news.announce.newsgroup) if you have any questions about the
process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.chem,
sci.chem.organomet, sci.chem.labware, sci.chem.analytical,
sci.chem.research
and the following mailing lists:
ORGCHEM (exchange of information related to organic chemistry
concerns of all types)
Subscribe via: orgreq@extreme.chem.rpi.edu
NAPRONET (discussions about chemistry and biological activity of
natural products)
Subscribe via: listproc@bilkent.edu.tr
CHMINF-L (questions about reference tools and databases of
chemical nature)
Subscribe via: listserv@iubvm.indiana.edu
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Proponent: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Mentor: Zoli Fekete <fekete@c2.net>
From cheakv@panther.gsu.edu Tue Apr 15 21:45:22 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.chem.organomet,sci.chem.labware,sci.chem.analytical
Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.chem.organic.synthesis moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <861165888.2842@isc.org>
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group sci.chem.organic.synthesis
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup sci.chem.organic.synthesis.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.
CHANGES from previous RFD:
The typo error reading 'unmoderated' newsgroup in the first
paragraph is corrected to moderated.
The minimum requirement for the moderator is dropped and
two moderators are added.
The distribution list contains two new mailing list for organic
chemists. The old one is removed.
The paragraphs about possible discussion topics and policy
towards commercial activity are rewritten but the general idea
remains unchanged.
A summary of the previous discussion of this proposal follows the
current rationale, charter and moderator information.
Newsgroup line:
sci.chem.organic.synthesis Synthetic organic chemistry related topics. (Moderated)
RATIONALE: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Synthetic organic chemistry touches many disciplines. Besides the
synthesis and isolation of compounds at the bench, organic chemists
have to be familiar with literature searching, analytical techniques,
computer applications etc.
Currently, two mailing lists (ORGCHEM and NAPRONET) cover
the organic synthesis part but traffic on these lists is rather limited.
Other topics of interest for organic chemists are spread out over a
wide variety of newsgroups (sci.chem, sci.chem.organomet,
sci.chem.labware, sci.chem.analytical, sci.polymers,
sci.chem.research, sci.techniques.mag-resonance,
sci.techniques.mass-spec, misc.jobs.fieds.chemistry,
sci.research.careers, sci.research.postdoc) and mailing lists
(CHMINF-L, CICOURSE, BUCKY, POST, SAFETY, STR-NMR,
YSN, BIBSOFT), but it is close to impossible to monitor and filter
out useful information on a daily basis.
Possible discussion issues include:
Organic synthesis reactions and mechanisms, Organic synthesis
literature, Purification and analysis of organic compounds,
Commercial availability of reagents, Laboratory hints, Laboratory
safety.
Policy towards commercial activity:
Although many newsgroups strictly prohibit any commercial activity,
it is important that organic chemists stay in touch with 'the
commercial world'. Therefore, it is permitted for (commercial)
organizations to post novel software, novel organic chemistry literature,
WWW-sites useful for organic chemists, upcoming organic synthesis
conferences and job openings for organic chemists under a single
condition: The subject line must start with the term ANNOUNCEMENT:.
In this way, uninterested readers are not forced to browse these
postings.
Not permitted postings include:
Anything out of touch with the synthetic organic field, Any
commercial activity that is not an announcement of a new product,
Any offensive language, Any formal or hidden request for synthesis
of illegal compounds.
Signature policy:
At the end of each article, a full name and e-mail address is
mandatory. Listing of position and association is optional but
strongly encouraged.
CHARTER: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
A newsgroup exclusively for synthetic organic chemists (audience-
specific and not subject-specific) will create a dynamic virtual
meeting place for fellow scientists and an excellent current awareness
tool.
Moderation policies:
This proposal is pro moderation to filter out unwanted (see not
permitted postings) and 'anonymous' (see signature policy) messages.
Although there are some disadvantages associated with moderated
groups - some people compare it with censorship and it slows down
the discussion - , sci.* groups have been plagued before with off-
topic discussions which eventually turned users away.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Moderator: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Moderator: Teunis vanRee <vanreet@ilink.nis.za>
Moderator: Frederic Denonne <denonne@chor.ucl.ac.be>
The goal is to set up a team of volunteer moderators from academy
and industry. Their work mainly involves granting approval of the
message to be posted. Besides workload reduction, the advantage of a
team is the possibility to ask for second opinion upon approval of an
article. Rejected but 'goodwill' postings will be send to originator
with a short explanation. If interested, please post your application to
news.groups or contact Koen Van Aken for more information.
END MODERATOR INFO.
SUMMARY of previous discussion:
Change of name:
The name was subject to a lively discussion and was the main reason
for the delay in the posting of the second RFD.
One group stated that time is not ripe for an organic hierarchy and
sci.chem is good as it is. Another group liked the original name: it was
straightforward, left room for future expansion and ideal for retrieval
purposes. Eventually, the decision was made to keep the original name
which had full support from the volunteer group.
Moderation:
Not the moderation itself but the minimum requirement for the
moderator was a sensitive issue. Consequently, this requirement was
dropped. Two moderator candidates have already signed in, and anyone
interested is still welcome. The goal is to set up a worldwide team that
is as diverse as possible (geography, academy and industry, research
interests). The intentions are to assign a moderator for each day of the
week and maintain a dynamic discussion with a check frequency of
three times a day.
Two new organic mailinglist:
Two new mailing list for organic chemist emerged during the creation
processs. Mailing lists and newsgroups about a similar subject can
perfectly live next to each other as both have their own merits. If this
newsgroup passes, the cyber landscape will have changed dramatically
in favor of organic chemists. All this makes an unmoderated newsgroup
for organic chemist, as some readers suggested, not necessary.
Policy towards commercial postings:
The general idea is kept to devide discussion topics from (commercial)
announcements by requiring the subject title to start with
ANNOUNCEMENT. To my opinion, one general word is favorable
over many different as JOB, COMMERCIAL etc. However, this and
the name of the general word is still open for discussion.
The old mailing list for organic chemist:
Has anyone any idea about the status of the old mailing list for organic
chemist (apparently not functional)?
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for a discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call
For Votes may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup
creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet
Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group
Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in
news.announce.newsgroup) if you have any questions about the
process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.chem,
sci.chem.organomet, sci.chem.labware, sci.chem.analytical,
sci.chem.research
and the following mailing lists:
ORGCHEM (Every topic related to organic chemistry)
Subscribe via: listadmin.orgchem@gwup.org
ORGLIST (Every topic related to organic chemistry)
Subscribe via: listserver@dq.fct.unl.pt
NAPRONET (discussions about chemistry and biological activity of
natural products)
Subscribe via: listproc@bilkent.edu.tr
CHMINF-L (questions about reference tools and databases of
chemical nature)
Subscribe via: listserv@iubvm.indiana.edu
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Proponent: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Mentor: Zoli Fekete <fekete@cyberpass.net>
From jpatokal@iki.fi Mon May 12 02:15:12 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@iki.fi>
Reply-To: voting@hut.fi
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.chem.analytical,sci.chem.labware,sci.chem.organomet
Subject: CFV: sci.chem.organic.synthesis moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <863427929.22753@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Expires: 3 Jun 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:05:29 GMT
Lines: 145
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:418
FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Newsgroups line:
sci.chem.organic.synthesis Synthetic organic chemistry related topics. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Jun 1997.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Mentor: Zoli Fekete <fekete@cyberpass.net>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@iki.fi>
RATIONALE: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Synthetic organic chemistry touches many disciplines. Besides the
synthesis and isolation of compounds at the bench, organic chemists
have to be familiar with literature searching, analytical techniques,
computer applications etc.
Currently, two mailing lists (ORGCHEM and NAPRONET) cover
the organic synthesis part but traffic on these lists is rather limited.
Other topics of interest for organic chemists are spread out over a
wide variety of newsgroups (sci.chem, sci.chem.organomet,
sci.chem.labware, sci.chem.analytical, sci.polymers,
sci.chem.research, sci.techniques.mag-resonance,
sci.techniques.mass-spec, misc.jobs.fieds.chemistry,
sci.research.careers, sci.research.postdoc) and mailing lists
(CHMINF-L, CICOURSE, BUCKY, POST, SAFETY, STR-NMR,
YSN, BIBSOFT), but it is close to impossible to monitor and filter
out useful information on a daily basis.
Possible discussion issues include:
Organic synthesis reactions and mechanisms, Organic synthesis
literature, Purification and analysis of organic compounds,
Commercial availability of reagents, Laboratory hints, Laboratory
safety.
Policy towards commercial activity:
Although many newsgroups strictly prohibit any commercial activity,
it is important that organic chemists stay in touch with 'the
commercial world'. Therefore, it is permitted for (commercial)
organizations to post novel software, novel organic chemistry
literature,
WWW-sites useful for organic chemists, upcoming organic synthesis
conferences and job openings for organic chemists under a single
condition: The subject line must start with the term ANNOUNCEMENT:.
In this way, uninterested readers are not forced to browse these
postings.
Not permitted postings include:
Anything out of touch with the synthetic organic field, Any
commercial activity that is not an announcement of a new product,
Any offensive language, Any formal or hidden request for synthesis
of illegal compounds.
Signature policy:
At the end of each article, a full name and e-mail address is
mandatory. Listing of position and association is optional but
strongly encouraged.
CHARTER: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
A newsgroup exclusively for synthetic organic chemists (audience-
specific and not subject-specific) will create a dynamic virtual
meeting place for fellow scientists and an excellent current awareness
tool.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Moderator: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Moderator: Teunis vanRee <vanreet@ilink.nis.za>
Moderator: Frederic Denonne <denonne@chor.ucl.ac.be>
Administrative contact address: organic-request@panther.gsu.edu
Article submission address: organic@panther.gsu.edu
END MODERATOR INFO.
HOW TO VOTE:
Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer.
You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
voting@hut.fi
Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work.
Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:
I vote YES on sci.chem.organic.synthesis
I vote NO on sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Voter name:
If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL
does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line
and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line
is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words
"Voter name"!
You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which
removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count
in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not.
If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.iki.fi/~jpatokal/uvv/.
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account
per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0zeta (May 8 1997).
PQ datestamp: 970209
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From jpatokal@iki.fi Thu May 22 06:30:06 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@iki.fi>
Reply-To: voting@hut.fi
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.chem.analytical,sci.chem.labware,sci.chem.organomet
Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.chem.organic.synthesis moderated
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <864307317.16470@isc.org>
Supersedes: <863427929.22753@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Expires: 3 Jun 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:21:57 GMT
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Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:443
LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Newsgroups line:
sci.chem.organic.synthesis Synthetic organic chemistry related topics. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Jun 1997.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Mentor: Zoli Fekete <fekete@cyberpass.net>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@iki.fi>
RATIONALE: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Synthetic organic chemistry touches many disciplines. Besides the
synthesis and isolation of compounds at the bench, organic chemists
have to be familiar with literature searching, analytical techniques,
computer applications etc.
Currently, two mailing lists (ORGCHEM and NAPRONET) cover
the organic synthesis part but traffic on these lists is rather limited.
Other topics of interest for organic chemists are spread out over a
wide variety of newsgroups (sci.chem, sci.chem.organomet,
sci.chem.labware, sci.chem.analytical, sci.polymers,
sci.chem.research, sci.techniques.mag-resonance,
sci.techniques.mass-spec, misc.jobs.fieds.chemistry,
sci.research.careers, sci.research.postdoc) and mailing lists
(CHMINF-L, CICOURSE, BUCKY, POST, SAFETY, STR-NMR,
YSN, BIBSOFT), but it is close to impossible to monitor and filter
out useful information on a daily basis.
Possible discussion issues include:
Organic synthesis reactions and mechanisms, Organic synthesis
literature, Purification and analysis of organic compounds,
Commercial availability of reagents, Laboratory hints, Laboratory
safety.
Policy towards commercial activity:
Although many newsgroups strictly prohibit any commercial activity,
it is important that organic chemists stay in touch with 'the
commercial world'. Therefore, it is permitted for (commercial)
organizations to post novel software, novel organic chemistry
literature,
WWW-sites useful for organic chemists, upcoming organic synthesis
conferences and job openings for organic chemists under a single
condition: The subject line must start with the term ANNOUNCEMENT:.
In this way, uninterested readers are not forced to browse these
postings.
Not permitted postings include:
Anything out of touch with the synthetic organic field, Any
commercial activity that is not an announcement of a new product,
Any offensive language, Any formal or hidden request for synthesis
of illegal compounds.
Signature policy:
At the end of each article, a full name and e-mail address is
mandatory. Listing of position and association is optional but
strongly encouraged.
CHARTER: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
A newsgroup exclusively for synthetic organic chemists (audience-
specific and not subject-specific) will create a dynamic virtual
meeting place for fellow scientists and an excellent current awareness
tool.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Moderator: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Moderator: Teunis vanRee <vanreet@ilink.nis.za>
Moderator: Frederic Denonne <denonne@chor.ucl.ac.be>
Administrative contact address: organic-request@panther.gsu.edu
Article submission address: organic@panther.gsu.edu
END MODERATOR INFO.
HOW TO VOTE:
Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer.
You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
voting@hut.fi
Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work.
Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:
I vote YES on sci.chem.organic.synthesis
I vote NO on sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Voter name:
If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL
does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line
and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line
is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words
"Voter name"!
You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which
removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count
in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not.
If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to
Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.iki.fi/~jpatokal/uvv/.
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account
per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0zeta (May 8 1997).
PQ datestamp: 970209
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From jpatokal@iki.fi Tue Jun 3 01:30:25 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@iki.fi>
Reply-To: jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.chem,sci.chem.analytical,sci.chem.labware,sci.chem.organomet
Subject: RESULT: sci.chem.organic.synthesis moderated passes 178:23
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <865326107.1805@isc.org>
Supersedes: <864307317.16470@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 08:21:48 GMT
Lines: 324
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:485
RESULT
moderated group sci.chem.organic.synthesis passes 178:23
There were 178 YES votes and 23 NO votes, for a total of 201 valid votes.
There were 4 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
sci.chem.organic.synthesis Synthetic organic chemistry related topics. (Moderated)
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Jun 1997.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Mentor: Zoli Fekete <fekete@cyberpass.net>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@iki.fi>
RATIONALE: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Synthetic organic chemistry touches many disciplines. Besides the
synthesis and isolation of compounds at the bench, organic chemists
have to be familiar with literature searching, analytical techniques,
computer applications etc.
Currently, two mailing lists (ORGCHEM and NAPRONET) cover
the organic synthesis part but traffic on these lists is rather limited.
Other topics of interest for organic chemists are spread out over a
wide variety of newsgroups (sci.chem, sci.chem.organomet,
sci.chem.labware, sci.chem.analytical, sci.polymers,
sci.chem.research, sci.techniques.mag-resonance,
sci.techniques.mass-spec, misc.jobs.fieds.chemistry,
sci.research.careers, sci.research.postdoc) and mailing lists
(CHMINF-L, CICOURSE, BUCKY, POST, SAFETY, STR-NMR,
YSN, BIBSOFT), but it is close to impossible to monitor and filter
out useful information on a daily basis.
Possible discussion issues include:
Organic synthesis reactions and mechanisms, Organic synthesis
literature, Purification and analysis of organic compounds,
Commercial availability of reagents, Laboratory hints, Laboratory
safety.
Policy towards commercial activity:
Although many newsgroups strictly prohibit any commercial activity,
it is important that organic chemists stay in touch with 'the
commercial world'. Therefore, it is permitted for (commercial)
organizations to post novel software, novel organic chemistry
literature,
WWW-sites useful for organic chemists, upcoming organic synthesis
conferences and job openings for organic chemists under a single
condition: The subject line must start with the term ANNOUNCEMENT:.
In this way, uninterested readers are not forced to browse these
postings.
Not permitted postings include:
Anything out of touch with the synthetic organic field, Any
commercial activity that is not an announcement of a new product,
Any offensive language, Any formal or hidden request for synthesis
of illegal compounds.
Signature policy:
At the end of each article, a full name and e-mail address is
mandatory. Listing of position and association is optional but
strongly encouraged.
CHARTER: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
A newsgroup exclusively for synthetic organic chemists (audience-
specific and not subject-specific) will create a dynamic virtual
meeting place for fellow scientists and an excellent current awareness
tool.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: sci.chem.organic.synthesis
Moderator: Koen Van Aken <cheakv@panther.gsu.edu>
Moderator: Teunis vanRee <vanreet@ilink.nis.za>
Moderator: Frederic Denonne <denonne@chor.ucl.ac.be>
Administrative contact address: organic-request@panther.gsu.edu
Article submission address: organic@panther.gsu.edu
END MODERATOR INFO.
sci.chem.organic.synthesis Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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a57614f@msumusik.mursuky.edu Flugentius N. Lugemwa
adam@chor.ucl.ac.be Jean-Michel Adam
alajarin@fcu.um.es M. Alajarin
Alex_Sobolewski/CHE/IAUS/ICI%ICI%ICI_EXT@tnpn.net.au Alex Sobolewski
amidde@arrakis.es D=E1maso D. Est=E9vez
ankh@ankhnet.com Dr.Ajay Khosla
archen@chor.ucl.ac.be@gemini.chor.ucl.ac.be Laurence Archen
arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva
Asimina_Georges@brown.edu Asimina Georges
asu@nwu.edu Andrew Su
atala@squid.umd.edu Pita Atala
atlantis@netcom.com JJ Miranda
a_grosse@postoffice.utas.edu.au Andrew C. Grosse
B.Riches@mailbox.uq.edu.au Bruce Riches
beaussart@chor.ucl.ac.be Michel Beaussart
boxus@chor.ucl.ac.be Boxus Thierry
breuer@cc.huji.ac.il Eli Breuer
C.McCoy@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Colin McCoy
cammers@caribe.chem.uky.edu Arthur Cammers
carlosa@hookup.net Carlos Aran
chan0844@cuhk.edu.hk Chan Po Ching
charles@chemistry.iitd.ernet.in Mr. I.Charles
cheaac@panther.Gsu.EDU Agnieszka Czarny
chekkb@panther.Gsu.EDU Krzysztof BielawskiKrzysztof Bielawski
chem@worldnet.att.net George D. McCallion
cheng@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Shifa Cheng
chessr@panther.Gsu.EDU Syed Rahmathullah
chevkk@panther.gsu.edu Vera Steullet
chimichi@risc1.chimorg.unifi.it Stefano Chimichi
Christian.Mueck-Lichtenfeld@org.Chemie.uni-giessen.de Christian Mueck-Licht
Christophe.Malan@ujf-grenoble.fr Christophe malan Ledss4
D.A.Tilbrook@mds.qmw.ac.uk David Allan Tilbrook d.a.tilbrook@mds.qmw.ac.uk
d.kiely@ieee.org Don Kiely
D.Parkin@dl.ac.uk Dr.D.Parkin
dac012f@cnas.smsu.edu Dean Cuebas
darryl@tht.net Darryl Evanoff
david.schmierer@stonebow.otago.ac.nz David Schmierer
david_mathre@merck.com David J Mathre
deguigne@chor.ucl.ac.be@gemini.chor.ucl.ac.be Claire de Guigné
deiters@uni-muenster.de Alexander Deiters
denonne@chor.ucl.ac.be Frederic Denonne
desj@ccr-p.ida.org David desJardins
djaustin@holden.chem.yale.edu David J. Austin
dnaugler@sfu.ca David Naugler
dogcow@us.itd.umich.edu Tom Spindler
drossart@cico.ucl.ac.be DROSSART Claude
dsrekbtp@prism.gatech.edu Brennan T. Price
eds4@psu.edu Eric Stover
eirik@mac-es.infato.unit.no Eirik Sundby
ellis@ftel.net Rick Ellis
elmars@pop-mail.metronet.de Dr. Elmar Schuster
euthke@siam.muc.de Ekkehard Uthke
evgen@camd1.kkpcr.re.kr Evgenij Barsukov
fbrady@rpms.ac.uk fbrady@rpms.ac.uk
gamora@cariari.ucr.ac.cr Gerardo Alberto Mora
gbeyer@euregio.net Dr.Guenter Beyer
gerard.boyer@VMESA12.U-3MRS.FR Gerard Boyer
gimisis@area.bo.cnr.it Thanasis Gimisis
gpm@silbond.com Gary Morr
gs01iif@panther.Gsu.EDU Iris Francesconi
guymacon@deltanet.com Guy Macon
haderson@terra.npd.ufpb.br Aderson de Farias Dias
harald.stener@kjemi.uio.no Harald Stener
herlt@rsc.anu.edu.au Tony Herlt
hoegen@felix.orc.univie.ac.at Klemens Hoegenauer
hoet@chor.ucl.ac.be Jerome Hoet
horacio-olivo@uiowa.edu Horacio F. Olivo
ian_newington@kodak.com Ian Newington
ilmari.krebs@uni-tuebingen.de Ilmari Krebs
iqu@uajms.bo Ingenieria Quimica UAJMS
ivarm@boc.ic.ee Ivar Martin
J.Coxon@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz Professor Jim Coxon
jacques.viala@VMESA12.U-3MRS.FR Viala
jasmine@fl.net.au Jasmine Taylor
jatkin@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA Jeffrey Atkinson
jibor@iqs.url.es Dr. Jose I. Borrell
jim_quada@msmtp.iddw.saci.org James Quada
jklimm@capecod.net John C. Klimm
jmolina@irapuato.ira.cinvestav.mx Jorge Molina-Torres
joerg@orgc.tu-graz.ac.at Hansjoerg Weber
John@polymer.demon.co.uk John Davies
joseph@chor.ucl.ac.be Delphine JOSEPH
jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark
jsims@ucrac1.ucr.edu James J. Sims
jsnow@icso.com.pl Janusz Nowicki , Poland
jvinson@cyberhighway.net John W. Vinson
jvprata@mail.telepac.pt Jos=E9 Prata
k.tonn@ic.ac.uk Karsten Tonn
kaliciak@bcmhs.bc.ca Henry Kaliciak
keith@eve.cchem.berkeley.edu Keith Rickert
kentner@u.washington.edu Kent Singleton
kfelczak@ibbrain.ibb.waw.pl Krzysztof Felczak
kimdv@netcom.com Kim DeVaughn
kirsch@hermes.univ-metz.fr Alain Comel
koch@xray3.chem.sunysb.edu Stephen Koch
kroutil@orgc.tu-graz.ac.at Wolfgang Kroutil
kws@teleport.com Karel Wm. Sebek
lachlan@melbpc.org.au Lachlan Cranswick
lai@U3PIC105.U-3MRS.FR Richard LAi
leeon@pharm1342.mc.ntu.edu.tw On Lee
lindstro@unixg.ubc.ca Kevin Lindstrom
lpf@dq.fct.unl.pt Lu=EDsa Ferreira
lusis@osi.lanet.lv Viesturs Lusis
l_willis@acs.org Lynn Willis
m.stoermer@mailbox.uq.edu.au Martin Stoermer
madeco@unicall.be Katrien Desmadryl
Mark@synopsys.co.uk Mark
marshall@stolaf.edu John C. Marshall
martinez@ascat.harvard.edu Luis Martinez
mathieu@chor.ucl.ac.be Benoit Mathieu
mblake@ag.Arizona.EDU Mary Blake
mcalter@vt.edu Michael Calter
mgrape@pop.uky.edu Matt Grapentine
mkengel@hotmail.com Michael K. Engel
mtada@mn.waseda.ac.jp tada masaru
mwi@kemi.aau.dk Marianne Willert
m_korell@tango2.ping.de Dr. Michael Korell
naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber
NEILA@aahl.dah.csiro.au Neil Anderton
ng@mbi.ucla.edu Ng
nick@cimio.co.uk Nick Waterman
nuel@U3PIC105.U-3MRS.FR Didier NUEL
oksrj@pop.dtu.dk Soren R. Jensen
paris@byu.edu Robert Craig Harman
patra@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de Michael Patra
Patrick.Bauchat@univ-rennes1.fr Patrick Bauchat - GPCS301A - =?iso-8859-1?Q
paxil@inorth.on.ca Trevor Tymchuk
pellacani@uniroma1.it Lucio Pellacani
Peter.Kundig@chiorg.unige.ch Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=FCndig?=
pfuchs@chem.purdue.edu Professor Philip L. Fuchs
pganesh@sprd1.mdacc.tmc.edu Pattabhiraman Ganesh
piacenza@U3PIC105.U-3MRS.FR PIACENZA
piras@U3PIC105.U-3MRS.FR Piras
pjs103@york.ac.uk Peter J. SIMPSON
poncelet@chim.ucl.ac.be Poncelet Jean-Michel
prim@bridoux.univ-metz.fr herve royer
procos@intercom.it Francesco Velardi
puchta@gwup.org Ralph Puchta
pvang@sci.kun.nl Peter M. van Galen
qibvigap@lg.ehu.es Pablo Vitoria
qogatojo@usc.es Gabriel Tojo
qojskd@uscmail.usc.es F. Javier Sardina
R.Crumbie@uws.edu.au Dr Robyn Crumbie
rafii@u3pic105.u-3mrs.fr RAFII
ralf@ark.franken.de Ralf W. Stephan
ravelasq@tunja.cetcol.net.co Rafael Velasquez D
rgawley@umiami.ir.miami.edu R. E. Gawley
richard.prankerd@pharmacy.uq.edu.au Richard Prankerd
righi@ms.fci.unibo.it Paolo Righi
rjarosch@uwc.edu Richard Jarosch
rmichale@rz.uni-osnabrueck.de Ralf Michalek
roses@capecod.net Dolores Scaldini Klimm
rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus
saengos@nsu.nu.ac.th Sirirat Saeng-on
shibumi@cisco.com Kenton A. Hoover
sirovsk@cacr.ioc.ac.ru Dr. Felix Sirovski, CChem., MRSC.
snabb@niksula.hut.fi Janne Snabb
ss17@prism.gatech.edu Sarah Shealy
stamper@stamper.com Chris Stamper
STCH8002@bureau.ucc.ie Fergus J. Lalor
stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz
taszm@vmsb.csd.mu.edu Maciej K. Tasz
thewhiteknight@juno.com Dave C Timpe
those@hit.handshake.de Thorsten Sessler
tk@ai.mit.edu Tom Knight
tohma@agc.co.jp Toshihiko Tohma
tonyb@null.net Tony Basoglu
ulven@kjemi.unit.no Trond Ulven
uno@mega.chem.ut.ee Uno Maeorg, Associate prof. Institute of Organic Chemis
urbalor@eyrie.org Rick Rechowicz
urquhart@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA Stephen G Urquhart
valk@betacyte.com Patrick van der Valk
vanreet@ilink.nis.za Prof T van Ree
vidarb@kjemi.unit.no Vidar Bergh
vsunjara@kanta.fesb.hr Vice Sunjara
warnold@tsixroads.com Wendel Arnold
woodcock@okuc02.okanagan.bc.ca Dave Woodcock
wyllieck@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA Craig Wyllie
Voted No
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aharvey@boulder.nist.gov Allan Harvey
andywlms@mail2.nai.net Andy Williams
bjv@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda
bradt@tmfs.mpgfk.tu-dresden.de Jens Bradt
doherty@bhnrc.usda.gov Robert F. Doherty
furrball@nym.alias.net Furrball
gpr96002@uconnvm.uconn.edu G.P. Ryan
graul@netcom.com Richard C. Graul
j.steinke@ic.ac.uk Joachim Steinke
jsb2@camsoft.com Jonathan Brecher
K95dl01@aol.com Dan Lawson
klinger@3-cities.com George S. Klinger
list-votes@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr"oder
matellez@nmsu.edu Mario R. Tellez
msoysal@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57
olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar
patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
tack@draziw.com Ryan
upset@cheerful.com Jon Hawkins
wakelyn@pinn.net N. T. Wakelyn
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