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From: [email protected] (Cary Timar)
Subject: RFD: sci.lang.classical
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This is a Request For Discussion of a newsgroup for classical studies.
NAME (proposed):
sci.lang.classical
STATUS (proposed):
unmoderated
CHARTER (proposed):
For discussion of Classical Studies, especially, but not exclusively, the
study of Classical Greek and Roman culture, languages, history, and art.
COMMENTS:
An increasing number of news subscribers have academic interests in the
humanities. It is time that some of the more popular of these subjects
had their own groups. Up till now, discussion of classical studies has
been taking place both in sci.lang (where it doesn't belong) and in
rec.org.sca (where it of primarily peripheral interest). A preliminary
discussion, in those two groups, suggests that there is some support for
a group dedicated to classical studies.
The only hierarchy for academic topics is sci.*. This has the side
benefit of obviating future debates to classify subjects as social
sciences or humanities.
Although the newsgroup would not be restricted to discussions of languages
only, the name sci.lang.classical appears more clear than the alternative
option, sci.classics.
Other topics that are peripheral to classical studies - Sanskrit, Aramaic,
Biblical cultures, and so forth - will be welcome (I imagine that there
would not be enough support for a group dedicated to Aramaic). Experience
suggests that there is no way to prevent occasional postings on subjects
that are completely outside the realm of classical studies, but we would
rather not encourage them.
--
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John Rickert and Cary Timar, Vanderbilt University, Nashville
[email protected] & [email protected]
From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 21:33:12 1992
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.lang,rec.org.sca
From: [email protected] (Cary Timar)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: sci.classics
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Vanderbilt U. Math Grad Student
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:21:48 GMT
This is the second Call For Votes on a newsgroup for classical
studies. At the end is a mass acknowlegdement of the votes that
we have registered so far. If you have voted but are not listed,
please vote again, following the instructions below, carefully.
NAME: sci.classics
STATUS: unmoderated
CHARTER:
For discussion of Classical Studies, especially, but not exclusively, the
study of Classical Greek and Roman culture, languages, history, and art.
VOTING:
All votes must be e-mailed directly to: [email protected]
The voting period will run from March 27 to April 26.
Votes posted to the net, or forwarded by a third party, WILL NOT BE
ACCEPTED.
Each vote should state explicitly, in the subject line or in the first
line of the message, "I vote YES for sci.classics," or "I vote NO against
sci.classics."
Any comments, such as, "but I would prefer ..." or, "but I would vote
differently if ..." can be included *after* a clear statement of which
way you are voting.
An overworked graduate student will eventually send you a confirmation
of your vote.
A Second CFV and list of votes received will be posted in about two
weeks.
COMMENTS:
An increasing number of news subscribers have academic interests in the
humanities. It is time that some of the more popular of these subjects
had their own groups. Up till now, discussion of classical studies has
been taking place both in sci.lang (where it doesn't belong) and in
rec.org.sca (where it of primarily peripheral interest). A preliminary
discussion, in those two groups, suggests that there is some support for
a group dedicated to classical studies.
Other topics that are peripheral to classical studies - Sanskrit, Aramaic,
Biblical cultures, Medieval and Modern Latin and so forth - will be welcome
(I imagine that there would not be enough support for a group dedicated to
Aramaic). Experience suggests that there is no way to prevent occasional
postings on subjects that are completely outside the realm of classical
studies, but we would rather not encourage them.
The only hierarchy for academic topics is sci.*. This has the side
benefit of obviating future debates to classify subjects as social
sciences or humanities. From the perspective of classicists, it is
worth noting that the Latin scientia referred to all knowledge, not
only the subjects currently called sciences.
The name sci.classics is the most general of the more widely supported
proposals. The other, sci.lang.classical, places too much emphasis on
the languages, at the expense of history, art, culture, archaeology,
and other aspects. It also appeared that the name sci.lang.classical
would be opposed by some readers of sci.lang, who viewed it as an
unfair invasion of their namespace.
Some proposed that the group be the first of a new subhierarchy for
humanities, sci.arts.* or sci.humanities.*. In order to get the CFV
out in a reasonable time, I am letting this issue wait.
If a humanities subhierarchy is formed, if the newsgroup name is found
to attract too many misplaced postings, or if for some other reason a
change of name is found desirable, it will be easier to conduct the
discussions in the group itself, once it is created.
===========================================================================
MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
====================
As of April 5, we have registered votes from the following users
(sorted by surname, to the extent that that could be determined.)
If you have voted, but your name is not in this list, please vote
again, following the instructions above, carefully.
Cristy
The Shaman
Russell Ackerman
Allan Adler
Rich Alderson
Benjamin Allen
Dawn Amos
William S. Annis
Ian Bacon
Sam Bassett
Louis Bertrand
James Roger Black
Rahul Bonner
Paul H. Borcher
Mark Brader
William A. Bralick Jr.
Roger H. Brown
Doug Brownell
Justin Bur
Hans Buurman
Mark Joseph Bylander
Jack Campin
David Carlton
Shih-tsun Alex Chou
Richard Commander
Michael A. Covington
Stephanie da Silva
James Dehnert
Rick DeMattia
John G. Dobnick
Andrew Draskoy
Cyberpixie
Eleanor Evans
Mark R. Farnsworth
A. T. Fear
Kevin Fitzpatrick
Maurice Forrester
Chris Galas
Joy Haftel
Roger L. Hale
Uncle Klaus
Boris Hemkemeier
Robert S. Hill
Kenton A. Hoover
Scott Horne
Dave Hudson
Diana Hulsey
Roland Hutchinson
Randell Jesup
Dave Joyce
Brian Kariger
Brendan Kehoe
Dave Kohr
Edward Kovach
"Happy, happy, happy; Joy, joy, joy!"
Stuart L. Labovitz
Andy Latto
Suzanne McCaffrey
Benjamin J. McCall
Todd McComb
Lola McCrary
Roland F. McKenney
Paul Maclauchlan
Lars Henrik Mathiesen
Steve Mitchell
Malcolm Mladenovic
William Moxley
John A. Murdie
Dave Murphy
Nick Stavros Nicholas
S. Nielsen
Harald Nordgard-Hansen
Barbara Nostrand
Conor O'Neill
Maryline G. Parca
Toivo Pedaste
George J. Perkins
Chris Phillips
Bently Preece
Renegade
Serious Moonlighter (Marc Raman?)
Paul Reilly
Sendhil Revuluri
John Rickert
Wolfgang Rohdewald
Prof. Haiim B. Rose'n
Prof. Hannah Rose'n
David E. Sanders <[email protected]>
David Sansone
Don Sawtelle
Frank Schauerte
Michael S. Schiffer
Antti Simola
Sally Smith
Sven Spanne
Karel Stokkermans
Jeff Suzuki
Otto Tennant
Gary Thomas
Cary Timar
Lynda L. True
David Turrell
Daniel Veditz
David Wald
Jade Walker
R. Wallace
Bill Walther
Christopher Ward
Steve Willner
A. Wilson
Norman Yarvin
Robert A. Zeh
Wolfgang Zenker
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John Rickert and Cary Timar, Vanderbilt University, Nashville
[email protected] & [email protected]
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-- Cary Timar, Mathematics Department, Vanderbilt University
From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 22:03:47 1992
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From: [email protected] (Cary Timar)
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Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: sci.classics
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Date: 17 Apr 1992 17:08:20 -0400
Organization: Vanderbilt U. Math Grad Student
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Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
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This is the third Call For Votes on a newsgroup for classical
studies. At the end is a mass acknowlegdement of the votes that
we have registered so far. If you have voted but are not listed,
please vote again, following the instructions below, carefully.
NAME: sci.classics
STATUS: unmoderated
CHARTER:
For discussion of Classical Studies, especially, but not exclusively, the
study of Classical Greek and Roman culture, languages, history, and art.
VOTING:
All votes must be e-mailed directly to: [email protected]
The voting period will run from March 27 to April 26.
Votes posted to the net, or forwarded by a third party, WILL NOT BE
ACCEPTED.
Each vote should state explicitly, in the subject line or in the first
line of the message, "I vote YES for sci.classics," or "I vote NO against
sci.classics."
Any comments, such as, "but I would prefer ..." or, "but I would vote
differently if ..." can be included *after* a clear statement of which
way you are voting.
An overworked graduate student will eventually send you a confirmation
of your vote.
A Second CFV and list of votes received will be posted in about two
weeks.
COMMENTS:
An increasing number of news subscribers have academic interests in the
humanities. It is time that some of the more popular of these subjects
had their own groups. Up till now, discussion of classical studies has
been taking place both in sci.lang (where it doesn't belong) and in
rec.org.sca (where it of primarily peripheral interest). A preliminary
discussion, in those two groups, suggests that there is some support for
a group dedicated to classical studies.
Other topics that are peripheral to classical studies - Sanskrit, Aramaic,
Biblical cultures, Medieval and Modern Latin and so forth - will be welcome
(I imagine that there would not be enough support for a group dedicated to
Aramaic). Experience suggests that there is no way to prevent occasional
postings on subjects that are completely outside the realm of classical
studies, but we would rather not encourage them.
The only hierarchy for academic topics is sci.*. This has the side
benefit of obviating future debates to classify subjects as social
sciences or humanities. From the perspective of classicists, it is
worth noting that the Latin scientia referred to all knowledge, not
only the subjects currently called sciences.
The name sci.classics is the most general of the more widely supported
proposals. The other, sci.lang.classical, places too much emphasis on
the languages, at the expense of history, art, culture, archaeology,
and other aspects. It also appeared that the name sci.lang.classical
would be opposed by some readers of sci.lang, who viewed it as an
unfair invasion of their namespace.
Some proposed that the group be the first of a new subhierarchy for
humanities, sci.arts.* or sci.humanities.*. In order to get the CFV
out in a reasonable time, I am letting this issue wait.
If a humanities subhierarchy is formed, if the newsgroup name is found
to attract too many misplaced postings, or if for some other reason a
change of name is found desirable, it will be easier to conduct the
discussions in the group itself, once it is created.
===========================================================================
MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
====================
As of April 16, we have registered votes from the following users
(sorted by surname, to the extent that that could be determined.)
Cristy
The Shaman
Russell Ackerman
Allan Adler
Tom Albrecht
Rich Alderson
Benjamin Allen
Dawn Amos
William S. Annis
Ian Bacon
Sam Bassett
Jane Bellemore
Louis Bertrand
James Roger Black
Rahul Bonner
Paul H. Borcher
Mark Brader
William A. Bralick Jr.
Roger H. Brown
Doug Brownell
Rick Bueker
Justin Bur
Hans Buurman
Mark Joseph Bylander
Jack Campin
David Carlton
John Chew
Shih-tsun Alex Chou
Richard Commander
Michael A. Covington
Frits Daalmans
Stephanie da Silva
James Dehnert
Rick DeMattia
Kim DeVaughn
John G. Dobnick
Andrew Draskoy
Cyberpixie
Mark Eckenwiler
Lowell Edmunds
Eleanor Evans
Mark R. Farnsworth
A. T. Fear
Fearnley Anne
Kevin Fitzpatrick
Maurice Forrester
Chris Galas
John Greer
Jacques Guy
Joy Haftel
Roger L. Hale
Michael Hand
Ronda Hauben
Uncle Klaus
Wiljo Heinen
Boris Hemkemeier
Robert S. Hill
Janne Himanka
Kenton A. Hoover
Scott Horne
Dave Hudson
Diana Hulsey
Roland Hutchinson
Randell Jesup
David A. Johns
Dave Joyce
Yeshik Meir Kahana
Brian Kariger
Brendan Kehoe
Richard Kellermann
Dave Kohr
Edward Kovach
"Happy, happy, happy; Joy, joy, joy!"
Stuart L. Labovitz
Andy Latto
Suzanne McCaffrey
Benjamin J. McCall
Todd McComb
Lola McCrary
Roland F. McKenney
Paul Maclauchlan
Lars Henrik Mathiesen
Sara Maxwell
Steve Mitchell
Malcolm Mladenovic
Marc Moorcroft
Tony Mountifield
William Moxley
John A. Murdie
Dave Murphy
Nick Stavros Nicholas
S. Nielsen
Harald Nordgard-Hansen
Barbara Nostrand
James O'Donnell
Douglas Olson
Conor O'Neill
Maryline G. Parca
Dr Roger D. Parks
Toivo Pedaste
George J. Perkins
Christopher Pettus
Chris Phillips
Roger Phillips
Bently Preece
Renegade
Serious Moonlighter (Marc Reeve)
George Matthew Regnery
Paul Reilly
Sendhil Revuluri
John Rickert
Carl Rigney
Webb Roberts
Wolfgang Rohdewald
Prof. Haiim B. Rose'n
Prof. Hannah Rose'n
Chip Rosenthal
David E. Sanders <[email protected]>
David Sansone
Don Sawtelle
David Schairer
Frank Schauerte
Michael S. Schiffer
B. Schlesinger
Mark Shields
Antti Simola
Alden Smith
Sally Smith
Sven Spanne
Karel Stokkermans
David W. Summers
Jeff Suzuki
Christian Taube
Otto Tennant
Gary Thomas