From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 10:36:37 1993
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Posted-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 17:18:23 CST
Date: Sun,  3 Feb 91 21:51:16 PST
From: [email protected] (Lar Kaufman)
Subject: Call for Discussion - creation of comp.os.coherent
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,comp.os.mach,comp.os.minix,comp.os.xinu,comp.os.misc,,comp.unix.sysv286,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.msdos
Keywords: coherent, Version_7, ISA, posted
Followup: news.groups    
This is a call for discussion of the proposed formation of a 
newsgroup for the Coherent operating system.  This newsgroup 
logically fits in the newsgroup hierarchy under the name 
comp.os.coherent and that is the proposed name for the group
subject to discussion in news.groups.  I propose that the   
group should be unmoderated, in the fashion of similar groups 
such as comp.os.xinu and comp.os.minix. 
The reason for this proposal is that Coherent is a significant  
development in the UNIX(tm) community, as an inexpensive OS  
similar to Version 7 Unix that runs on ISA architecture (AT-bus) 
personal computers.  While Coherent shares many of the same 
features of XINU and Minix, it also has unique characteristics  
related particularly to its C compiler, its UUCP implementation,  
and its device driver toolkit that indicate a need for net 
discussion among users to their benefit.  Note: While Coherent 
is a commercial product, this proposal was initiated without 
consultation with any representative or employee of the company 
that developed and is marketing Coherent.  It is not intended  
that this newsgroup should be an organ of support for the  
developer, but that the needs and interests of the user of  
the Coherent product shall be furthered by this newsgroup. 
Followup-to: news.groups

Discussion of this proposal shall continue for 30 days on news.groups 
and on or about February 24, I will issue a Call for Votes to the 
groups that have received this announcement, along with instructions 
for casting votes and a schedule for the voting period.  

Thank you for attention and interest.


From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 12:22:23 1993
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From: [email protected] (Lar Kaufman)
Subject: CFV:  comp.os.coherent
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The request for discussion period for comp.os.coherent has ended.
Only one item was in any way controversial - the name of the group.
It was suggested that the group should be named comp.unix.coherent.
This suggestion is not adopted because (1) Coherent is not Unix,
having been independently developed, and (2) the proposed group name,
comp.os.coherent, is consistent with the existing hierarchy of comp
newsgroups.  It is beyond the scope of the proposal to revise the

Accordingly, this call for votes is for an unmoderated newsgroup named
comp.os.coherent.  The purpose of the group is to discuss and support
the Coherent operating system and related topics.  Coherent currently
resembles Unix Version 7, and is ported to ISA-architecture 80286-
and 80386-based computers.

The voting period shall extend from the time of posting of this
article until 11 PM GMT of March 27, 1991.  Only votes received 
by me ([email protected]) before this deadline will be counted.


The reliable way to vote is to send email to me, Lar Kaufman,
at this address: [email protected].

Posted votes cannot be counted; you must send mail to me.  The vote
applies only to the specific proposal to form comp.os.coherent, and
will not apply to any other proposal.  The vote must be explicit and
unambiguous.  I favor the form "I vote for comp.os.coherent as
proposed" or "I vote against comp.os.coherent as proposed".  Please
keep any further comments to a minimum.  I will be pleased to hear
other remarks in a separate message.

Thank you for your interest.

Lar Kaufman            I would feel more optimistic about a bright future
(voice) 512-794-9070   for man if he spent less time proving that he can
(fax)   512-794-0623   outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness 
[email protected]        and respecting her seniority.  - E.B. White

From [email protected] Wed Apr  5 19:28:39 1995
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From: [email protected] (Lar Kaufman)
Subject: RESULT:  comp.os.coherent passes 339:20
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Date: 29 Mar 91 04:25:36 GMT
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comp.os.coherent vote results (unverified) indicate that 
comp.os.coherent PASSES.

The voting period for the CFV for an unmoderated newsgroup,
comp.os.coherent, is ended.  The tally of valid votes was 
339 for, 20 against (approximately 17/1).  I did not count 
multiple votes by individuals or votes by otherwise
unidentified "root" or "superuser" accounts; there were 
about a dozen of these.  I also did not count 4 votes that
were received by persons without accounts, as these votes 
would not be verifiable under the guideline.  I did not 
count the "abstain" vote I received.

You have 5 days to correct any errors in the voter list or 
voting procedure, following the posting of this announcement
in news.announce.newgroups.

I wish to thank those who voted and those who wanted to vote.
I would like to extend special thanks to Curt Sampson who 
put aside a considerable investment of his own time by 
withdrawing an RFD for alt.coherent in order to allow this 
discussion and vote to come to pass without confusion or 


Vote               Voter
---- ----------------------------------------------------

NO   "Nam c." 
NO   [email protected] (Brian Matthews)
NO   [email protected] (David D. Stretch)
NO   Ed McGuire 
NO   Jim Roche 
NO   Nathan James Loofbourrow 
NO   Robert Craig Harman 
NO   Scott R. Weis KB2EAR 
NO   [email protected] (Arthur David Olson)
NO   [email protected] (Bryan Cardoza)
NO   [email protected] (Carl Rigney)
NO   [email protected] (Charleen Bunjiovianna Stoner)
NO   [email protected] (David Robinson)
NO   [email protected]
NO   [email protected] (GarBear Irick)
NO   [email protected] (Randy Howard)
NO   [email protected] (Scott Coulter)
NO   [email protected] (Steve Blair)
NO   [email protected] (Roger Cornelius)
NO   [email protected] (Tin Le)
Yes  "A. Rahman Jamaluddin" 
Yes  "Brendan Murray, Otago University CSC" 
Yes  "CPT Douglas E. Nielsen" 
Yes  "Chris Webster" 
Yes  "Dave Fischer" 
Yes  "Donald A. MacLeod" 
Yes  "Ernest J. Obusek" 
Yes  "Fabian, Roderic" 
Yes  "Jay Leafey @MMO  25-Mar-1991 0849" 
Yes  "Predrag S. Bundalo" 
Yes  "Richard L. Solomon" 
Yes  "Robert C. Lehr" 
Yes  "Stuart L Labovitz" 
Yes  *****************   "name" truncated by votetaker -lk*
Yes  <16448591%[email protected]> (Mark Schaffer)
Yes   (Andy Lynn)
Yes  @cca.ucsf.EDU:[email protected] (Dave Abercrombie)
Yes  @cca.ucsf.EDU:[email protected] (Adam Tilghman)
Yes  @cca.ucsf.EDU:[email protected] (Wendy Monroe)
Yes  @cca.ucsf.EDU:[email protected] (William King)
Yes  [email protected]
Yes  [email protected]
Yes  Adrian Wontroba 
Yes  Alan B. Clegg 
Yes  Alan Barclay 
Yes  Alan Thew 
Yes  Amir Plivatsky 
Yes  Andy Newcomb 
Yes  Bill Henning 
Yes  Birmingham Blair B 
Yes  Bjorn Engsig 
Yes  Bob Izenberg 
Yes  Bodo Rueskamp 
Yes  Borge Arntsen 
Yes  Brad Rudacille 
Yes  Brian Smithson 
Yes  Charles Bennett Smith 
Yes  Chet Creider 
Yes  Christer Olsson 
Yes  Court Demas 
Yes  Curtis Repen 
Yes  D. W. James 
Yes  Dan Poirier 
Yes  Daniel Cohen 
Yes  Daniel McKeel 
Yes  Darrell Swope 
Yes  David Bedno 
Yes  David Eugene Dwiggins 
Yes  David Fenyes 
Yes  David Peter Coster 
Yes  Doug Sewell 
Yes  Douglas Pokorny 
Yes  Ed Federmeyer 
Yes  Edward C Brunelle Jr. 
Yes  Enrico Renato Palmerini 
Yes  Eric Horst 
Yes  [email protected] (Gerald Skerbitz)
Yes  George Ng 
Yes  Hafeman Joseph CPT <[email protected]>
Yes  Harald Tveit Alvestrand 
Yes  Heinrich Zacher 
Yes  Hendrik Boom 
Yes  Henk Dijkstra 
Yes  Howard Honig 
Yes  [email protected]
Yes  Jeff Bauer 
Yes  Jim Baumbach 
Yes  Jim Bevier - J B Systems 
Yes  Jim Lick 
Yes  Joachim Riedel 
Yes  Joel B Levin 
Yes  John B Harlan 
Yes  Jon Inouye 
Yes  Kevin Purcell 
Yes  Kurt Klingbeil 
Yes  [email protected] (MARK [email protected])
Yes  La Monte H Yarroll 
Yes  Laszlo C. Balint 
Yes  Linh Ngo 
Yes  Litow 
Yes  Lori Pape 
Yes  Mark Moraes 
Yes  Mark Spector 
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Yes  Mohamad Suwandi Sidik 
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Yes  Nitesh Patel 
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Yes  Paul F Martino 
Yes  Pestilence 
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Yes  Shea 
Yes  Sohail Malik 
Yes  Stanier A 
Yes  Stephen Trier 
Yes  Steve Watt 
Yes  Steven R. Newton 
Yes  Sunny Gulati 
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Yes  Timothy Newsham 
Yes  Tom Griffin 
Yes  [email protected], it'll be faster... 
Yes  Vernon K Lindsay 
Yes  Victor Leikehman 
Yes  WATSONG%[email protected]
Yes  Walt Melton 
Yes  Wayne 
Yes  Wern-Jieh Sun 
Yes  XBR4DA68%[email protected]
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Yes  [email protected] (Robert Teeter)
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Yes  [email protected] (Brendan Kehoe)
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Yes!smith (Mark Smith)
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Yes  [email protected] (Jeff French)
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Yes  [email protected] (jay wall)
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Yes  [email protected] (Mark)
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Yes  [email protected] (Lar Kaufman)
Yes  [email protected] (Ty A. Lasky)
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