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From [email protected] Fri Apr 14 17:44:02 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (J. Eric Townsend) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen Subject: RFD: comp.os.magic-cap Followup-To: news.groups Date: 14 Apr 1995 16:30:53 -0400 Organization: General Magic, Inc. Lines: 65 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Distribution: inet Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6605 news.groups:144758 comp.sys.handhelds:18497 comp.sys.palmtops:24960 comp.sys.pen:8713  REQUEST FOR  DISCUSSION (RFD) =============================  Newsgroup    : comp.os.magic-cap Status       : unmoderated Distribution : world-wide Summary      : Discussion of the Magic Cap operating system Proposers    : [email protected]  This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of the newsgroups comp.os.magic-cap.  This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation. Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs. The RFD is being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups :  news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen  NOTE : Follow ups are defined to ensure that further discussion takes place in news.groups only. Please watch this group if you are interested in the ensuing  discussion.  CHARTER  The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the topics:  * Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.  * Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.  * Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.  * Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.   RATIONALE  There are many systems available that can run the Magic Cap operating system.  Sony and Motorola are both selling Magic Cap based personal communicators. General Magic has announced the Magic Cap for Windows product that provide MS Windows users with a Magic Cap platform. Matsushita and others have announced plans to use Magic Cap as a base operating system for personal communicators.  Many of the users and developers (and potential users and developers) for these systems also use the Internet as a means of communication and have been cobbling together mailing lists and WWW servers.  The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup would reach a much broader audience and provide a better forum for discussion than the loose collection of resources.   PROCEDURE  Please post any response to this message to news.groups. If you use the followup feature on your newsreader, this should happen automatically. It is important to understand that all discussions about the merits of this proposal should occur on news.groups only.  --  J. Eric Townsend [email protected]  USA 408.774.4252 (play: [email protected]) AT&T PersonaLink: [email protected] URL bandwagon of hipitude *** Affiliation shown for identification and contact purposes only. ***  From [email protected] Mon May 15 18:18:48 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.newton.misc Subject: CFV: comp.os.magic-cap Followup-To: poster Date: 15 May 1995 13:25:18 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 89 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6836 news.groups:149550 comp.sys.handhelds:18875 comp.sys.palmtops:26430 comp.sys.pen:8928 comp.sys.newton.misc:31746                            FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                      unmoderated group comp.os.magic-cap  Newsgroups line: comp.os.magic-cap	Everything about General Magic's Magic Cap OS.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 June 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group contact J. Eric Townsend <[email protected]>.  DISTRIBUTION  This CFV will be cross posted to: 	comp.sys.handhelds 	comp.sys.palmtops 	comp.sys.pen 	comp.sys.newton.misc and EMailed to: 	[email protected] 	[email protected]  CHARTER  The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the topics: * Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.  * Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.  * Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.  * Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.  RATIONALE  There are many systems available that can run the Magic Cap operating system.  Sony and Motorola are both selling Magic Cap based personal communicators. General Magic has announced the Magic Cap for Windows product that provide MS Windows users with a Magic Cap platform. Matsushita and others have announced plans to use Magic Cap as a base operating system for personal communicators.  Many of the users and developers (and potential users and developers) for these systems also use the Internet as a means of communication and have been cobbling together mailing lists and WWW servers.  The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup would reach a much broader audience and provide a better forum for discussion than the loose collection of resources.  HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.       I vote YES on comp.os.magic-cap       I vote NO on comp.os.magic-cap       I vote ABSTAIN on comp.os.magic-cap       I CANCEL my vote on comp.os.magic-cap  Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely. (This is the only difference between the two.)  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid vote will count.  Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.  The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret ballot.  There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.  From [email protected] Mon May 29 22:35:15 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.newton.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.magic-cap Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 28 May 1995 19:16:15 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 89 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 6 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6918 news.groups:151539 comp.sys.handhelds:19015 comp.sys.palmtops:26894 comp.sys.pen:9074 comp.sys.newton.misc:32566                            LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                      unmoderated group comp.os.magic-cap  Newsgroups line: comp.os.magic-cap	Everything about General Magic's Magic Cap OS.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 June 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group contact J. Eric Townsend <[email protected]>.  DISTRIBUTION  This CFV will be cross posted to: 	comp.sys.handhelds 	comp.sys.palmtops 	comp.sys.pen 	comp.sys.newton.misc and EMailed to: 	[email protected] 	[email protected]  CHARTER  The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the topics: * Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.  * Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.  * Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.  * Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.  RATIONALE  There are many systems available that can run the Magic Cap operating system.  Sony and Motorola are both selling Magic Cap based personal communicators. General Magic has announced the Magic Cap for Windows product that provide MS Windows users with a Magic Cap platform. Matsushita and others have announced plans to use Magic Cap as a base operating system for personal communicators.  Many of the users and developers (and potential users and developers) for these systems also use the Internet as a means of communication and have been cobbling together mailing lists and WWW servers.  The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup would reach a much broader audience and provide a better forum for discussion than the loose collection of resources.  HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.       I vote YES on comp.os.magic-cap       I vote NO on comp.os.magic-cap       I vote ABSTAIN on comp.os.magic-cap       I CANCEL my vote on comp.os.magic-cap  Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely. (This is the only difference between the two.)  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid vote will count.  Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.  The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret ballot.  There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.  From [email protected] Tue Jun  6 18:47:02 1995 Status: RO Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.newton.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.os.magic-cap passes 179:21 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 6 Jun 1995 16:52:19 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 258 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6998 news.groups:152594 comp.sys.handhelds:19104 comp.sys.palmtops:27239 comp.sys.pen:9136 comp.sys.newton.misc:33155                                  RESULT           unmoderated group comp.os.magic-cap passes 179:21  There were 179 YES votes and 21 NO votes, for a total of 200 valid votes. There were 3 abstains and 1 invalid ballot.  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.    comp.os.magic-cap passed on Thu May 18 17:46:16 1995  Newsgroups line: comp.os.magic-cap	Everything about General Magic's Magic Cap OS.  This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>. For questions about the proposed group contact J. Eric Townsend <[email protected]>.  CHARTER  The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the topics: * Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.  * Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.  * Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.  * Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.  [This collection of addresses is (C)1995 by Consultix Computer Services. Permission is strictly NOT given to use this list or any part thereof to make a mailing list, or for mass-mailings.  Any other use is fine.] comp.os.magic-cap Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                              Leene, A. [email protected]                                          Neklan Brozensky [email protected]                                           Manuel Veloso [email protected]                                      L. Regius Brown [email protected]                         VADM Andrew P. Gibbons [email protected]                                               Tony Jones [email protected]                                           Alan Robell [email protected]                                                  Albert Nurick [email protected]                                               Allan MACKINNON [email protected]                     Andy McMullin [email protected]                                        Andy Belk [email protected]                           Angelique Di Schino [email protected]                                         Simon Auyeung [email protected]                                        ndrew Lewis Tepper [email protected]                                              Asif Taiyabi [email protected]                                                 Barry Nathan [email protected]                                          William J. Edney [email protected]                               Ben Burch (via RadioMail) [email protected]                                           Bruce Horrocks [email protected]                                                        Bill Peet [email protected]                                               Alan K Biocca [email protected] Brandt_Lawrence_R/[email protected]                          Lawrence R. Brandt [email protected]                                                         Brian [email protected]                                               Brenda Holloway [email protected]                                        Brian Goldberg [email protected]                                       Bruce Barrett [email protected]                                                     Brent Townshend [email protected]                                               bradley g wherry [email protected]                                            Christopher Ramos [email protected]                                    The Delta Project [email protected]                                            C J Silverio [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]                                      Cameron Laird [email protected]                                         Chris Stamper [email protected]                                         Christopher M. Goodman [email protected]                                              Christian Colin [email protected]                                                 Cedric Pansky [email protected]                                               Curtis Eubanks [email protected]                                              Chris Fine [email protected]                                                  John Curry [email protected]                                              Curtis Shenton [email protected]                                             Dave Beckett [email protected]                                      Martin Nisshagen [email protected]                                         David B. Alford [email protected]                                                   Dave Kloba [email protected]                               Dean Blevins - FES OPS [email protected]                                                    Dave Coker [email protected]                                                      Dean Yu [email protected]                                              David L. Ellis [email protected]                                             Chris Derossi [email protected]                                              Dewayne Adams [email protected]                                                       David Mankins [email protected]                                                 Don Woods [email protected]                                                 Ray Rischpater [email protected]                                                 Dave Theodore [email protected]                                                      Ed Hurtley [email protected]                                                      Eike Dierks [email protected]                                                        Dave Ely [email protected]                                         Eric Berdahl [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]                                  Frederic STARK [email protected]                                             Jun Fujisawa [email protected]                                                 Ed Gaillard [email protected]                                             Gary Connor [email protected]                                     Gilles Dignard [email protected] [email protected]                                                   Gil Elbaz [email protected]                                   Gordon Sheridan [email protected]                                                Greg Marriott [email protected]                                                Hardy Macia [email protected]                                               Carl Haynes [email protected]                             Charles H. Hemstreet IV [email protected]                                         Brian M. Leach [email protected] [email protected]                                                     Mike Cohen [email protected]                                                   Ian Wilkinson [email protected]                                                   Jae Kim [email protected]                                       James Thevathasan [email protected]                                             Bensman, Jeff [email protected]                                           Jiun-Chung Kuo [email protected]                                             Jennine Townsend [email protected]                                     J. Eric Townsend [email protected]                                              John Giannandrea [email protected]                                               Joe Hayashi [email protected]                                              John Howard [email protected]                                 Jim Niemann [email protected]                           John Fuchs-Chesney [email protected]                                                  Joe McAllister [email protected]                                                           Jonboy [email protected]                                                        Jor Bratko [email protected] [email protected]                                                 John Curran [email protected]                                                Johan van Ketwich [email protected]                                  Jim Van Peursem [email protected]                                       N. Karunanithi [email protected]                                                Keith Wood [email protected]                                   Kenji Armstrong [email protected]                                                     Tony Hayes [email protected]                                                 Keith Erskine [email protected]                                      Kieran Sherlock [email protected]                                            Donald Eastlake [email protected]                               Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 500 2957 [email protected]                                                     Kula Corp. [email protected]                                                    Keith T. Vogt [email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder [email protected]                                                      Lee Unkrich [email protected]                                LeeAnn Heringer [email protected] [email protected]                                       David Levine [email protected]                                                 Victor Lewis [email protected]                                                      Jon Lowell magda%[email protected] [email protected]                                                    Michael O'Brien [email protected]                                               Mark Novak [email protected]                                       John Massaglia [email protected]                                               Matt Spolin [email protected]                                            Mark Hoy [email protected]                                       Michael Cullinan [email protected]                                          Michael Cohen [email protected]                                                      Brad Might [email protected]                                              Michael Archuleta [email protected]                                                Michael Rosenberg [email protected]                                                  Mike Morgan [email protected]                                Steve Klingsporn [email protected]                                              Martin Teitel [email protected]                                    Chris Schmelzer [email protected]                                              Dave Newman [email protected]                                          Nick Ingegneri [email protected]                                        Nigel Ballard [email protected] [email protected]                                              Hiroshi Ogino [email protected]                                                   Paul Trentham [email protected]                                              Rick Tasher [email protected]                                                   Paul Kerrigan [email protected] [email protected]                              Hemant Vasant Sawant [email protected]                                           Philip Jones [email protected]                                  Philippe Leblanc [email protected]                                         Phil Goldman [email protected]                                                 Pierre Omidyar [email protected] [email protected]                                         Paul S R Chisholm [email protected]                                       Rick Pumphrey [email protected]                                                  Raymond Gasser [email protected]                                               Richard Clark rick%[email protected] [email protected]                                                     Rick Ross [email protected]                                        Richard Geiger [email protected]                                      Robert A. Tell [email protected]                                            James D Robertson [email protected]                                                        Rob Tsuk [email protected]                          Robbert J. van Meenen [email protected]                                                       Greg Satz [email protected]                                                Scott R. Cadle [email protected]                                Michael Sclafani [email protected]                                             Scott Thomas [email protected]                                         Sharpened Software [email protected]                                  Shawn C. Clark [email protected]                                          Steve Luzynski [email protected]                                                  Scott Mirer [email protected] [email protected]                                      Steve Nowakowski [email protected]                                                 Samuel Solon [email protected]                                                  Steve Maller [email protected]                                          Tom Branham [email protected]                                                     David Szego [email protected]                                             Hannes WOLF [email protected]                                                   Timo Bruck [email protected]                                                       Jon A Webb [email protected] [email protected]                                                       83 [email protected]                                                    Jerome Chan [email protected]                                          Steve Zellers [email protected]                                                Mark Zeren [email protected]                                            Zalman Stern  Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                             Ananda M. Kar [email protected]                                                        Steve Mann [email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers [email protected]                                               Christopher Ward [email protected]                                             Frank McConnell [email protected]                                                Ian Jackson [email protected]                                           Jim Poston [email protected]                                                    John Vittal [email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan [email protected]                                              Kim DeVaughn [email protected]                                                 Marcus Breiing [email protected]                                           Patrick J. LoPresti [email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer [email protected]                                               Ryan Waldron [email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller [email protected]                                         Smarasderagd [email protected]                                                        Lee Sobier [email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown [email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams WFCB/WFCB1/HeringerMR%[email protected]    Heringer, Mark R [email protected]                                         Risto Widenius  Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch [email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected]                                                  M. Otto   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                                   Creighton Hoke    ! Conflicting votes  
 
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