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From [email protected] Mon Jun 22 14:50:57 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2454 news.groups:53124 comp.os.os2.misc:25414 comp.os.os2.programmer:4581 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:486 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:844 comp.os.msdos.misc:7827 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:25125 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Path: uunet!bounce-back From: "Timothy F. Sipples" <[email protected]> Subject: RFD: comp.os.os2.programmer.porting, comp.os.os2.setup Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: University of Chicago, Illinois Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1992 18:10:50 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 33  This is a formal Request for Discussion on the creation of two new unmoderated newsgroups and a slight renaming of one existing newsgroup to maintain consistency within the Usenet hierarchy.  Proposals:  (1) Create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting.  The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.0, GNU C/C++ 2.1 and EMX/GCC (currently version 0.8d), has spurred a continuing deluge of software ported from Unix and Unix-like platforms, including emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, and much more.  This newsgroup will provide a forum for developers of ported software so as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and spur additional development.  The group will also cover topics such as porting from DOS and Windows (including porting tools such as Mirrors), toolkits which aid in program portability, and so forth.  If this newsgroup is approved, comp.os.os2.programmer will be renamed comp.os.os2.programmer.misc to maintain hierarchical consistency.  (2)  Create comp.os.os2.setup.  This newsgroup should help reduce the extraordinarily heavy traffic in comp.os.os2.misc.  It will be devoted to all OS/2 system setup topics, including availability of device drivers, compatibility information, installation procedures, system requirements, and overall system performance optimization.  The group comp.os.os2.apps will continue to serve as a forum for DOS, Windows, and OS/2 application-specific setup questions.  [The formal discussion period for these two newsgroups will last until 12:01 a.m. UTC, July 22, 1992.  Specifics on the procedure for voting will be posted just after the period for discussion has expired.]  If you have any questions or comments which you wish to convey in private, please mail [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Aug  4 16:11:59 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2595 news.groups:54982 comp.os.os2.misc:30108 comp.os.os2.programmer:5533 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:1165 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:1790 comp.os.msdos.misc:8283 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:26616 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Timothy F. Sipples) Subject: CFV: comp.os.os2.programmer.porting and comp.os.os2.setup Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: University of Chicago Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1992 18:39:38 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 68  This is a formal Call for Votes on the creation of two new unmoderated newsgroups.  Summary:  YES comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:	[email protected] NO  comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:	[email protected] YES comp.os.os2.setup:			[email protected] NO  comp.os.os2.setup:			[email protected]  A specific format for votes is REQUIRED to aid in tabulation.  Please see below.  Proposals:  (1) Create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting.  The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.0, GNU C/C++ 2.1 and EMX/GCC (currently version 0.8d), has spurred a continuing deluge of software ported from Unix and Unix-like platforms, including emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, and much more.  This newsgroup will provide a forum for developers of ported software so as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and spur additional development.  The group will also cover topics such as porting from DOS and Windows (including porting tools such as Mirrors), toolkits which aid in program portability, and so forth.  (2)  Create comp.os.os2.setup.  This newsgroup should help reduce the extraordinarily heavy traffic in comp.os.os2.misc.  It will be devoted to all OS/2 system setup topics, including availability of device drivers, compatibility information, installation procedures, system requirements, and overall system performance optimization.  The group comp.os.os2.apps will continue to serve as a forum for DOS, Windows, and OS/2 application-specific setup questions.  Votes must be cast according to the following instructions or they will not be counted.  Votes will be accepted until 12:01 a.m. UTC, August 31, 1992.  Individual vote acknowledgements will not be sent, but weekly voting summaries will be posted to all related newsgroups. Votes will be tabulated by Robert Cain ([email protected]).  To vote YES for the creation of comp.os.os2.programmer.porting, send a single line message with "(Your Name): YES: .porting" in the text and the Subject line to [email protected]  To vote NO, in opposition to this new newsgroup, use "(Your Name): NO: .porting" and send to [email protected]  To vote YES for the creation of comp.os.os2.setup send a single line message with "(Your Name): AYE: .setup" in the text and the Subject line to [email protected]  To vote NO, in opposition to this new newsgroup, use "(Your Name): NAY: .setup" and send to [email protected]  EXAMPLE: Here is a YES vote for comp.os.os2.setup cast by John Q. Public:  ----- Message Begins ----- To: [email protected] Subject: John Q. Public: AYE: .setup  John Q. Public: AYE: .setup ----- Message Ends -----  If you have any questions or concerns which you wish to convey in private, please mail [email protected] --  Timothy F. Sipples Center for Population Economics University of Chicago [email protected]  From [email protected] Wed Oct  7 13:46:28 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2802 news.groups:57442 comp.os.os2.misc:35869 comp.os.os2.programmer:7033 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:2436 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:3623 comp.os.msdos.misc:9216 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:28927 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Subject: RESULT: comp.os.os2.{setup,programmer.porting} fail {101:9, 76:12} Followup-To: news.groups Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:49:27 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 196  This is a Preliminary Result of Votes for the creation of two new Usenet newsgroups. Voting was closed 8/31/92.  [Sorry this is late, but the original vote-keeper was away from Usenet during the voting period;  I received his voting tally just a few hours ago.]  The voting summary:             YES  NO                                 ---  -- comp.os.os2.setup:              101   9 comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:  76  12   [[ I currently have no policy for how old is too old for a result, but    if this had been submitted as a passing vote nearly a month after    the polls closed I would have been hard pressed to accept it.  Also    note that full names _and_ addresses would have definitely been required    for a passing result.  I only post this now as information for those    who have been wondering about this proposal.  -- tale ]]  Proposals:  (1) Create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting.  The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.0, GNU C/C++ 2.1 and EMX/GCC (currently version 0.8d), has spurred a continuing deluge of software ported from Unix and Unix-like platforms, including emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, and much more.  This newsgroup will provide a forum for developers of ported software so as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and spur additional development.  The group will also cover topics such as porting from DOS and Windows (including porting tools such as Mirrors), toolkits which aid in program portability, and so forth.  (2)  Create comp.os.os2.setup.  This newsgroup should help reduce the extraordinarily heavy traffic in comp.os.os2.misc.  It will be devoted to all OS/2 system setup topics, including availability of device drivers, compatibility information, installation procedures, system requirements, and overall system performance optimization.  The group comp.os.os2.apps will continue to serve as a forum for DOS, Windows, and OS/2 application-specific setup questions.  The following is the list of voters and how they voted for each group. [The original vote-keeper did not provide the e-mail addresses of the voters, or provide a weekly summary.  I received his voting tally just a few hours ago;  I counted the votes and formated the text.]  (a) = comp.os.os2.setup (b) = comp.os.os2.programmer.porting  (a)  (b)  Name ==== ==== ================ AYE  YES  Andrew Bros AYE  YES  Andrew Hilmer AYE  YES  Arto J. Hoikkala AYE  YES  Bill Brown NAY  NO   Bill Owens  AYE  YES  Bob McCormick AYE  YES  Bob Pebly AYE  ---  Bob Raicer NAY  NO   Bob Sloane AYE  YES  Brian L Holland  AYE  ---  Brian Wiersema AYE  YES  Carl Chalek AYE  YES  Cedric Baechler AYE  YES  Chris Jones AYE  YES  Craig Bell  AYE  YES  D. Robert Spexet II NAY  NO   Damon Kelly AYE  YES  Dan Shearer AYE  ---  Dave Sisson AYE  YES  David A. Berson  AYE  YES  David Shepherd AYE  YES  Deirdre McClure AYE  YES  Denis McKeon AYE  YES  Dennis Baba AYE  ---  Don Smith  AYE  ---  Douglas Bell AYE  YES  Douglas Clifton AYE  YES  Emil J. Zeller AYE  ---  Eric Schroedter ---  YES  Fred D. Quintana  ---  YES  Fred Homan AYE  YES  Gerald Ruderman AYE  YES  Glen Linderman AYE  YES  Gord Webster AYE  YES  Gordon J. Miller  AYE  ---  Greg Wright AYE  YES  Helge Nareid AYE  YES  Hendrik Boom AYE  YES  Horst Kiehl AYE  YES  Ian T. Stirling  AYE  ---  J. Gustafson AYE  ---  JMITCHEL AYE  ---  James L. Weinkam ---  NO   Janne Liimatainen AYE  YES  Jim Kunzman  AYE  YES  Jim Reisert AYE  YES  Johann Tonsing AYE  ---  John DeCarlo AYE  YES  John Edge AYE  ---  John McGing  AYE  YES  John Paul Morrison AYE  YES  John W. Bodnar AYE  YES  Johnnie Leung AYE  ---  Jonathan M. Bradshaw AYE  YES  Jonathan Sykes  AYE  YES  Kai Uwe Rommel AYE  YES  Karsten Wemheuer AYE  NO   Keith Dorken AYE  YES  Ken Brucker NAY  NO   Kim DeVaughn  AYE  ---  Kurt Olender AYE  YES  L. Leon Campbell AYE  ---  Larry Greenfield AYE  YES  Leo G. Chouinard II AYE  YES  Les Hartzman  AYE  YES  Lew Perin AYE  YES  Lucian N. Dancanet NAY  NO   Marc Moorcroft AYE  YES  Mark Foltz AYE  YES  Mark Hoy  AYE  YES  Markus Volpers AYE  ---  Marten Feldtmann AYE  YES  Matthew A. Manuel AYE  YES  Meir I Green AYE  YES  Michael K. Carmel  AYE  YES  Michael Roeder ---  YES  Mike Kretzer AYE  YES  Mike Levis AYE  ---  Moldovan R. AYE  YES  Nan Zou  AYE  YES  Nathan Schimke AYE  YES  Oliver Wagner AYE  YES  Paul Goffin AYE  YES  Paul King AYE  YES  Pete Bergstrom  AYE  YES  Peter Alexiou AYE  YES  Peter Arien AYE  YES  Ping Huang AYE  ---  R. James Kaminski AYE  YES  Raja Thiagarajan  NAY  NO   Rich Kulawiec NAY  NO   Richard Miller AYE  NO   Rob Perkins AYE  YES  Rob Prikanowski AYE  ---  Robert L. Howard  AYE  ---  Robert Rosenbaum NAY  NO   Rolan Kaltefleiter AYE  YES  Roland Schock AYE  ---  Samuel A. Figueroa AYE  YES  Scott P. Reimert  AYE  YES  Scott Warner AYE  ---  Shiran Cooray AYE  ---  Steven Jay Breiner AYE  ---  Ted Chen AYE  ---  Teemu Mottonen  AYE  ---  Thomas Farmer AYE  YES  Thomas Stets AYE  YES  Timothy F. Sipples AYE  YES  Tom Aurand AYE  YES  Tom Sorensen  ---  YES  Willem Jan Withagen AYE  YES  William Lai AYE  YES  chiaki ishikawa AYE  ---  goldrick NAY  NO   sven heinicke  Since the voting closed on 8/31/92, these two proposed newgroups cannot be brought up for discussion until 3/1/93.  Mike Levis -- last-minute vote counter --  ==== Mike Levis   [email protected] ==== ::   ftp ftp-os2.nmsu.edu (128.123.35.151)    ::  .--. ::   for OS/2 software & information.  Get    :: (OS/2) :::: the OS/2 FAQL in dir /pub/os2/all/faq :::::  ~--~  From [email protected] Wed Mar 10 20:56:01 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.multimedia Subject: RFD: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,.setup,.multimedia,.bugs} Followup-To: news.groups Date: 3 Mar 1993 23:31:33 -0500 Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 168 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3305 news.groups:67519 comp.os.os2.programmer:10883 comp.os.os2.misc:53200 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:6841 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:3533 comp.os.msdos.programmer:22917 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:55683 comp.multimedia:5723  Introduction:  	This is a Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of four OS/2 	newsgroups and the renaming of one: 	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated) 	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to 	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated) 	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated) 	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated) 	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)   	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer 	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules 	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started 	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993). 	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and 	comp.os.os2.bugs.  	All discussion will be directed to news.groups.  This is only a 	Request for Discussion (RFD).  This is not a Call For Votes (CFV) 	-- do not attempt to vote yet.   Background:  	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2 	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred 	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such 	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and 	much more.  Borland is expected to release its C/C++ compiler for 	OS/2 2.x soon, allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows 	software.  	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and 	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the 	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility 	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the 	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation 	procedures, etc.  	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows 	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is 	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version 	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).  	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt, 	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2. 	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks 	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or 	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read 	comp.os.os2.misc for details).   Proposed Charters:  	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so 		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and 		spur additional development.  The group will also cover 		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS, 		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program 		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and 		so forth.  	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)  		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy 		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to 		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup 		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and 		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.  	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)  		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the 		availability of device drivers, compatibility information, 		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall 		performance optimization.  	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.  	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug 		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system 		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.  		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other 		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in 		comp.os.os2.beta if it passes a separate CFV]   Schedule:  	This RFD will be in effect for the next 30 days.  If there are 	no unresolvable objections posted to news.groups, then a CFV will 	be issued shortly after the 30 days.   OS/2 Hierarchy:  	Here is a brief summary of current and proposed OS/2 newsgroups, 	starting with the current ones...  	*  comp.os.os2.networking 		Networking issues/apps/drivers.  	*  comp.os.os2.programmer 		Programming issues/apps/tools.  	*  comp.os.os2.apps 		Discussion of other apps.  	*  comp.os.os2.advocacy 		Debates, flames, bashing.  	*  comp.os.os2.misc 		Supposed to be for OS/2 users to talk, but currently used 		for bug, beta, and setup discussion.  	*  comp.binaries.os2 (moderated) 		OS/2 freeware and shareware binaries.   	These groups are currently being voted on in another RFD/CFV...  	*  comp.os.os2.ver1x 		OS/2 1.x discussion.  	*  comp.os.os2.beta 		Discussion of OS/2 betas, feature suggestions for future 		OS/2 betas.  	*  comp.os.os2.announce (moderated) 		OS/2 information.   	These groups are proposed in this RFD...  	*  comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 		Porting programs to OS/2.  	*  comp.os.os2.programmer.misc 		(rename of comp.os.os2.programmer)  	*  comp.os.os2.setup 		OS/2 Hardware, driver, and installation discussion.  	*  comp.os.os2.multimedia 		Discussion of multimedia on OS/2.  	*  comp.os.os2.bugs 		Discussion on OS/2 system bugs (including OS/2 beta 		versions if comp.os.os2.beta fails to be created; 		excluding betas if it passes). --  --:--~  (OS|  Mike Levis     Unofficial OS/2 Spokesmodel S/2)  .--:-|  email ---------> [email protected] --:--(OS/2)|  This RFD has been brought to  you  by  the  (OS/2)--~ |  letters "O" and "S", and by the number "2"  From [email protected] Mon Mar 29 20:42:50 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.multimedia Subject: CFV: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs} Followup-To: poster Date: 29 Mar 1993 19:32:45 -0500 Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 225 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3409 news.groups:68767 comp.os.os2.programmer:11869 comp.os.os2.misc:56200 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:8008 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:4009 comp.os.msdos.programmer:23773 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:58925 comp.multimedia:6204  Introduction:  	This is a Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of four OS/2 	newsgroups and the renaming of one: 	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated) 	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to 	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated) 	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated) 	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated) 	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)   	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer 	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules 	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started 	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993). 	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and 	comp.os.os2.bugs.  	This document contains: 	*  the background showing the need for these proposals 	*  the proposed charters for these proposals 	*  voting instructions 	*  a voting ballot 	*  some example ballots 	*  the voting rules 	*  the voting schedule   Background:  	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2 	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred 	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such 	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and 	much more.  Borland has released its C/C++ compiler for OS/2 2.x, 	allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows software.  	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and 	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the 	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility 	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the 	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation 	procedures, etc.  	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows 	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is 	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version 	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).  	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt, 	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2. 	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks 	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or 	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read 	comp.os.os2.misc for details).   Proposed Charters:  	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so 		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and 		spur additional development.  The group will also cover 		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS, 		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program 		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and 		so forth.  	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)  		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy 		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to 		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup 		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and 		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.  	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)  		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the 		availability of device drivers, compatibility information, 		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall 		performance optimization.  	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.  	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug 		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system 		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.  		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other 		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in 		comp.os.os2.beta]   How to Vote:  	To cast your vote, fill out the ballot below and e-mail it to me. 	Many newsreaders will allow e-mail to be sent by replying to this 	post.  Be sure to send only the ballot, and edit out the rest of 	this post.  	1)  Type in your vote for each proposal:  	    If you favor the charter as proposed, put a "yes" after its name. 	    If you oppose the charter as proposed, put a "no" after its name. 	    To abstain, leave a blank after its name.  	2)  Type in your last name (i.e. your family name), a comma, and 	    your first name (i.e. your personal name).  	3)  Cut out the ballot,  	4)  E-mail your ballot to [email protected] before 11:59:59 pm 	    (Central Time), April 24, 1993.   Ballot:  ----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----          (a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:         (b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc:         (c)              comp.os.os2.setup:         (d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:         (e)               comp.os.os2.bugs:          (f)       voter's last, first name:          e-mail ballot to [email protected] by April 24  ----cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------   Example Ballot #1:  	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes 	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes 	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: no 	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: 	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: no  	(f)       voter's last, first name: Smith, John  	In this example, John Smith favors comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 	to be created, and comp.os.os2.programmer to be renamed to 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  He also opposes the creation of 	comp.os.os2.setup and comp.os.os2.bugs.  He does not have a view 	on the creation of comp.os.os2.multimedia.    Example Ballot #2:  	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes 	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes 	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: yes 	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: yes 	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: yes  	(f)       voter's last, first name: Doe, Jane  	In this example, Jane Doe favors the creation or rename of all 	the proposals.   Voting Rules:  	* One vote per person.  If you vote more than once, only the most 	  recent vote will be counted.  	* Votes must be mailed to me by the person voting.  Proxy voting, 	  forwarding, posting votes to a newsgroup, etc. will not be counted.  	* Do not ask how the votes are going.  The status of the votings 	  will be revealed only after the poll closes.  	* I will acknowledge votes by Mass Acknowledgement (ACK).  I will 	  post the ACK twice (see Schedule below).  	* If you need help for using your editor, using e-mail, how 	  voting works in general, etc. then ask an expert at your site. 	  Also see the ``How To Create a New Newsgroup'' article which is 	  posted to news.answers on a regular basis.  	* If you need any clarifications on voting procedures for this 	  CFV, send me e-mail at [email protected]  	* When the voting period is over (see Schedule below), a proposal 	  passes if both of the following formulas are true: 	  1)  the number of YES votes exceeds the number of NO votes 	      by at least 100 (i.e. YES >= NO + 100, or YES - NO >= 100). 	  2)  the number of YES votes exceeds at least twice the 	      number of NO votes (i.e. YES >= 2 * NO, or YES - NO >= NO). 	  In other words, a proposal passes if: 	      YES - NO >= max (100, NO) 	  where max() returns the highest number given to it.   Schedule:  	The voting period will start as soon as this CFV is posted by David 	Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).  Since you are 	reading this, vote now!  	During the voting period I plan to issue subsequent CFVs, each 	with a Mass Acknowledgement of voter's names and e-mail addresses.  	The voting period will end at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on 	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count. 	The voting results and tally will be posted shortly after that 	date. --  --:--~  (OS|  Mike Levis       Unofficial OS/2 Spokesmodel S/2)  .--:-| --:--(OS/2)|  [email protected]   ->          votes  (OS/2)--~ |  [email protected]  -> clarifications  From [email protected] Wed Apr  7 11:44:56 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.multimedia Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs} Followup-To: poster Date: 6 Apr 1993 12:32:06 -0400 Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 386 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3433 news.groups:69263 comp.os.os2.programmer:12120 comp.os.os2.misc:57155 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:8339 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:4160 comp.os.msdos.programmer:24036 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:59901 comp.multimedia:6348  * Attention voters: * * I had a problem with my mailbox on the first day of voting. * Please check the Vote Acknowlegement (ACK) at the end of this CFV. * If your name/address is not there, please send your vote again. * (Actually, check even if you voted after the first day)  Introduction:  	This is the second Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of four OS/2 	newsgroups and the renaming of one: 	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated) 	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to 	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated) 	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated) 	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated) 	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)  	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer 	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules 	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started 	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993). 	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and 	comp.os.os2.bugs.  	This document contains: 	*  the background showing the need for these proposals 	*  the proposed charters for these proposals 	*  voting instructions 	*  a voting ballot 	*  some example ballots 	*  the voting rules 	*  the voting schedule 	*  the Mass Acknowledgement   Background:  	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2 	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred 	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such 	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and 	much more.  Borland has released its C/C++ compiler for OS/2 2.x, 	allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows software.  	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and 	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the 	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility 	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the 	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation 	procedures, etc.  	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows 	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is 	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version 	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).  	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt, 	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2. 	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks 	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or 	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read 	comp.os.os2.misc for details).   Proposed Charters:  	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so 		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and 		spur additional development.  The group will also cover 		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS, 		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program 		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and 		so forth.  	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)  		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy 		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to 		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup 		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and 		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.  	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)  		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the 		availability of device drivers, compatibility information, 		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall 		performance optimization.  	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.  	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug 		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system 		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.  		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other 		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in 		comp.os.os2.beta]   How to Vote:  	To cast your vote, fill out the ballot below and e-mail it to me. 	Many newsreaders will allow e-mail to be sent by replying to this 	post.  Be sure to send only the ballot, and edit out the rest of 	this post.  	1)  Type in your vote for each proposal:  	    If you favor the charter as proposed, put a "yes" after its name. 	    If you oppose the charter as proposed, put a "no" after its name. 	    To abstain, leave a blank after its name.  	2)  Type in your last name (i.e. your family name), a comma, and 	    your first name (i.e. your personal name).  	3)  Cut out the ballot,  Please do not delete any lines of the 	    ballot.  	4)  E-mail your ballot to [email protected] before 11:59:59 pm 	    (Central Time), April 24, 1993.   Ballot:  ----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----          (a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:         (b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc:         (c)              comp.os.os2.setup:         (d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:         (e)               comp.os.os2.bugs:          (f)       voter's last, first name:          e-mail ballot to [email protected] by April 24  ----cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------   Example Ballot #1:  	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes 	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes 	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: no 	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: 	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: no  	(f)       voter's last, first name: Smith, John  	In this example, John Smith favors comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 	to be created, and comp.os.os2.programmer to be renamed to 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  He also opposes the creation of 	comp.os.os2.setup and comp.os.os2.bugs.  He does not have a view 	on the creation of comp.os.os2.multimedia.    Example Ballot #2:  	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes 	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes 	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: yes 	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: yes 	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: yes  	(f)       voter's last, first name: Doe, Jane  	In this example, Jane Doe favors the creation or rename of all 	the proposals.   Voting Rules:  	* One vote per person.  If you vote more than once, only the most 	  recent vote will be counted.  	* Votes must be mailed to me by the person voting.  Proxy voting, 	  forwarding, posting votes to a newsgroup, etc. will not be counted.  	* Do not ask how the votes are going.  The status of the votings 	  will be revealed only after the poll closes.  	* I will acknowledge votes by Mass Acknowledgement (ACK).  I will 	  post the ACK twice (see Schedule below).  	* If you need help for using your editor, using e-mail, how 	  voting works in general, etc. then ask an expert at your site. 	  Also see the ``How To Create a New Newsgroup'' article which is 	  posted to news.answers on a regular basis.  	* If you need any clarifications on voting procedures for this 	  CFV, send me e-mail at [email protected]  	* When the voting period is over (see Schedule below), a proposal 	  passes if both of the following formulas are true: 	  1)  the number of YES votes exceeds the number of NO votes 	      by at least 100 (i.e. YES >= NO + 100, or YES - NO >= 100). 	  2)  the number of YES votes exceeds at least twice the 	      number of NO votes (i.e. YES >= 2 * NO, or YES - NO >= NO). 	  In other words, a proposal passes if: 	      YES - NO >= max (100, NO) 	  where max() returns the highest number given to it.   Schedule:  	The voting period started on March 29 when the first CFV was posted 	by David Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).  	This second CFV is a repeat of the first CFV, but it also has the 	Mass Acknowledgement (ACK) of names and e-mail addresses of those who 	have already voted -- re-send your vote if it is not there.  If you 	have not voted yet, vote now!  	Later in the voting period I plan to issue a third CFV, also 	with a Mass Acknowledgement of voter's names and e-mail addresses.  	The voting period will end at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on 	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count. 	The voting results and tally will be posted shortly after that 	date.   Mass Acknowledgement:  	Here is the list of people who have already sent in their ballots 	as of 12:45 am (Central Time) on April 4, 1993:                             [email protected] Aiyagari, Sanjay          [email protected] Arien, Peter              LAAAA43%[email protected] Aurand, Tom               [email protected] Bartlett, Warren          [email protected] Beal, Kenneth             [email protected] Bedersdorfer, Jochen      [email protected] Benningfield, Robert      concert.net!aurs01!aurw7a!benningf Blackman, Ed              [email protected] Bodnar, John              [email protected] Botha, David              [email protected] Bowers, Neil              [email protected] Bronner, Geoffrey         [email protected] Carlson, Bill             [email protected] Ciesielski, Boleslaw      [email protected] Clement, Bruce            [email protected] Clemente, Marc F.         [email protected] Cline, Ernest             [email protected] Cocking , Simon           [email protected] Costello, Robert          [email protected] Coulman, Randy            [email protected] Cox, Anthony              [email protected] daigle, Joe               [email protected] DeCarlo, John             [email protected] Donaldson, Ian            [email protected] Duffy, Patrick            [email protected] Dusitsin, Krid            [email protected] Erzberger, Martin         [email protected] Feustel, Edward           [email protected] filippini,luigi           [email protected] Fleuren, Rik              [email protected] Francis, Tim              [email protected] Franks, Derek             [email protected] Franzki, Wolfgang         [email protected] Friedrich, Jochen         [email protected] Friis, Torben             [email protected] G"unther, Stefan          [email protected] Gammon, Robert            [email protected] Gartler, Hermann          [email protected] Garzik, Jeff              [email protected] Gnassi, John              [email protected] Goyal, Mohit              [email protected] Green, Anthony            [email protected] Grupenhoff, Mike          [email protected] Haggerty, Michael         [email protected] Hartman, Shane            [email protected] Hartzman, Les             [email protected] Hassa, George             [email protected] Heederik, Robbert         [email protected] Hellerhoff, Torsten       [email protected] Henriksen, Gerald         [email protected] Henry, Andrew             [email protected] Herbison, B.J.            [email protected] Herron, Kenneth           [email protected] Hilmer, Andrew            [email protected] Hodges, Matthew           [email protected] Hollebone, Bruce          [email protected] holsman, Ian              [email protected] Hoppenbrouwers, Jeroen    [email protected] Howard, Robert            [email protected] Jackson, Dave             [email protected] Jensen, Colin             [email protected] Kassarjian, Steven        [email protected] Kiehl, Horst              [email protected] Kitchin, Bruce            [email protected] Kone, Bob                 [email protected] Kovarski, Mark            [email protected] Lacy, Stephen             [email protected] lai, william              [email protected] Lawton, Gef               [email protected] Le Glasse, Franck         [email protected] Lehtonen, Jari            [email protected] Leitner, Thomas           [email protected] Lentin, Kevin             [email protected] Lin, Steven               [email protected] Logan, Stan               [email protected] Lu, Kevin                 [email protected] Martin, Johannes          [email protected] Maturo, Larry             [email protected] Mayer, Gunther H.         [email protected] Mcgehrin, Matthew         [email protected]@des.edu McGuire, Ed               [email protected] McMillan, Andrew          [email protected] meyer, jeff               [email protected] Miller, Richard           [email protected] Mittelstaedt, Olaf H.-P.  [email protected] moorcroft, marc           [email protected] Morrison, John Paul       [email protected] Mosher, David             [email protected] Mouawad, Naji.            [email protected] Mullins, Don              [email protected] Nareid, Helge             [email protected] Narinian, Vartan          [email protected] Norton, Charles M.        [email protected] o'neel, bruce             [email protected] Oldham, C. R.             [email protected] Olson, Eric               [email protected] Oussoren, Ronald          [email protected] owens, bill               [email protected] Parry, Tom                [email protected] Pebly, Bob                [email protected] Perdue, Alicia            [email protected] Petro, Herbert            [email protected] Powell, Stephen           [email protected] Provensal, jerome         uunet.UU.NET!iac!jerome Quinn, Michael            [email protected] Rao, Venkat               [email protected] Robertson, James          [email protected] Rosenvold, Johan Kristian [email protected]fi.uio.no Ruppel, Markus            [email protected] Ryan, Sean                [email protected] Salomon, Larry            [email protected] Schipper, Haijo           [email protected] SIPPLES, TIMOTHY          [email protected] Skogstad, Oddbjorn        [email protected] Smith, Donald             [email protected] Sneath, Tim               [email protected] Sriram, N                 [email protected] Steele, Alan              [email protected] Steinkopf, Dirk           [email protected] Stirling, Ian T.          [email protected] streeter, carl            [email protected] Sum, Eva                  [email protected] Sum, Joey                 [email protected] Swallow, Doug             [email protected] Thomas, Stephen           [email protected] torremans, engelbert      etorrem%[email protected] Tremain, Jim              [email protected] Tsen, Maoee               [email protected] van der Lek, Petja        [email protected] van Woerkom, Marc E.E.    [email protected] Veeraraghavan, Venkatesh  [email protected] Villumsen, Ole            [email protected] Wald, David               [email protected] Watson, Brett             [email protected] Weeks, Larry              [email protected] Werner, John              [email protected] West, Mike                [email protected] Wittenauer, Allen         [email protected] Woodbury, Gregory         [email protected] Wyble, Richard            transfer.stratus.com!schunix!rwyble --  --:--~  (OS|  Mike Levis       Unofficial OS/2 Spokesmodel S/2)  .--:-| --:--(OS/2)|  [email protected]   ->          votes  (OS/2)--~ |  [email protected]  -> clarifications  From [email protected] Fri Apr 16 10:40:34 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.multimedia Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs} Followup-To: poster Date: 15 Apr 1993 18:19:08 -0400 Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 476 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3473 news.groups:69908 comp.os.os2.programmer:12415 comp.os.os2.misc:58198 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:8691 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:4311 comp.os.msdos.programmer:24304 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:61064 comp.multimedia:6569  * Attention voters: * * I had a problem with my mailbox on the first day of voting. * Please check the Vote Acknowlegement (ACK) at the end of this CFV. * If your name/address is not there, please send your vote again. * (Actually, check even if you voted after the first day)   Introduction:  	This is the third (and final) Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation 	of four OS/2 newsgroups and the renaming of one: 	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     (unmoderated) 	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to 	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               (unmoderated) 	(c)  comp.os.os2.setup                         (unmoderated) 	(d)  comp.os.os2.multimedia                    (unmoderated) 	(e)  comp.os.os2.bugs                          (unmoderated)  	This is the second attempt at creating comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 	and comp.os.os2.setup, and renaming comp.os.os2.programmer to 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  The first attempt failed in the summer 	of 1992 (the voting deadline was August 31, 1992).  The voting rules 	state that another attempt for creating newsgroups can be started 	after a six month waiting period (in this case, it is March 1, 1993). 	This is the first attempt at creating comp.os.os2.multimedia and 	comp.os.os2.bugs.  	This document contains: 	*  the background showing the need for these proposals 	*  the proposed charters for these proposals 	*  voting instructions 	*  a voting ballot 	*  some example ballots 	*  the voting rules 	*  the voting schedule 	*  the Mass Acknowledgement   Background:  	The creation of two, free, 32-bit compilers for OS/2 2.x (gcc/2 	and emx/gcc; read comp.os.os2.programmer for details) has spurred 	a continuing deluge of software ported from UNIX platforms, such 	as emacs, less, awk, grep, sed, xscheme, ispell, flex, yacc, and 	much more.  Borland has released its C/C++ compiler for OS/2 2.x, 	allowing for easier porting of DOS and Windows software.  	Much of the PC hardware and drivers were written for DOS, and 	later, Windows.  As more people are discovering OS/2 2.x, the 	number of people asking questions about OS/2's compatibility 	with their hardware increases, as does the questions on the 	availability of drivers for their hardware, installation 	procedures, etc.  	Multimedia is becoming popular.  OS/2 2.0 supports Windows 	Multimedia Extensions using Win-OS/2 3.0.  Furthermore, IBM is 	including direct multimedia support in OS/2 starting with version 	2.1 (in addition to using Win-OS/2 3.1).  	Any non-trivial software will have bugs -- OS/2 is not exempt, 	especially since IBM is constantly adding new features to OS/2. 	So far, IBM has issued system patches and corrective service disks 	(e.g.  the Service Pak) for free (free from BBSs and ftp sites, or 	for free plus a small media charge for diskettes -- read 	comp.os.os2.misc for details).   Proposed Charters:  	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so 		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and 		spur additional development.  The group will also cover 		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS, 		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program 		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and 		so forth.  	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)  		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy 		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to 		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup 		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and 		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.  	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)  		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the 		availability of device drivers, compatibility information, 		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall 		performance optimization.  	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.  	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug 		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system 		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.  		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other 		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in 		comp.os.os2.beta]   How to Vote:  	To cast your vote, fill out the ballot below and e-mail it to me. 	Many newsreaders will allow e-mail to be sent by replying to this 	post.  Be sure to send only the ballot, and edit out the rest of 	this post.  	1)  Type in your vote for each proposal:  	    If you favor the charter as proposed, put a "yes" after its name. 	    If you oppose the charter as proposed, put a "no" after its name. 	    To abstain, leave a blank after its name.  	2)  Type in your last name (i.e. your family name), a comma, and 	    your first name (i.e. your personal name).  	3)  Cut out the ballot,  Please do not delete any lines of the 	    ballot.  	4)  E-mail your ballot to [email protected] before 11:59:59 pm 	    (Central Time), April 24, 1993.   Ballot:  ----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----          (a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting:         (b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc:         (c)              comp.os.os2.setup:         (d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia:         (e)               comp.os.os2.bugs:          (f)       voter's last, first name:          e-mail ballot to [email protected] by April 24  ----cut here----------------cut here----------------cut here----------------   Example Ballot #1:  	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes 	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes 	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: no 	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: 	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: no  	(f)       voter's last, first name: Smith, John  	In this example, John Smith favors comp.os.os2.programmer.porting 	to be created, and comp.os.os2.programmer to be renamed to 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  He also opposes the creation of 	comp.os.os2.setup and comp.os.os2.bugs.  He does not have a view 	on the creation of comp.os.os2.multimedia.    Example Ballot #2:  	(a) comp.os.os2.programmer.porting: yes 	(b)    comp.os.os2.programmer.misc: yes 	(c)              comp.os.os2.setup: yes 	(d)         comp.os.os2.multimedia: yes 	(e)               comp.os.os2.bugs: yes  	(f)       voter's last, first name: Doe, Jane  	In this example, Jane Doe favors the creation or rename of all 	the proposals.   Voting Rules:  	* One vote per person.  If you vote more than once, only the most 	  recent vote will be counted.  	* Votes must be mailed to me by the person voting.  Proxy voting, 	  forwarding, posting votes to a newsgroup, etc. will not be counted.  	* Do not ask how the votes are going.  The status of the votings 	  will be revealed only after the poll closes.  	* I will acknowledge votes by Mass Acknowledgement (ACK).  I will 	  post the ACK twice (see Schedule below).  	* If you need help for using your editor, using e-mail, how 	  voting works in general, etc. then ask an expert at your site. 	  Also see the ``How To Create a New Newsgroup'' article which is 	  posted to news.answers on a regular basis.  	* If you need any clarifications on voting procedures for this 	  CFV, send me e-mail at [email protected]  	* When the voting period is over (see Schedule below), a proposal 	  passes if both of the following formulas are true: 	  1)  the number of YES votes exceeds the number of NO votes 	      by at least 100 (i.e. YES >= NO + 100, or YES - NO >= 100). 	  2)  the number of YES votes exceeds at least twice the 	      number of NO votes (i.e. YES >= 2 * NO, or YES - NO >= NO). 	  In other words, a proposal passes if: 	      YES - NO >= max (100, NO) 	  where max() returns the highest number given to it.   Schedule:  	The voting period started on March 29 when the first CFV was posted 	by David Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).  	This third CFV is a repeat of the first CFV, but it also has the 	Mass Acknowledgement (ACK) of names and e-mail addresses of those who 	have already voted -- re-send your vote if it is not there.  If you 	have not voted yet, vote now!  	The voting period will end at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on 	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count. 	The voting results and tally will be posted shortly after that 	date.   Mass Acknowledgement:  	Here is the list of people who have already sent in their ballots 	as of 12:01 am (Central Time) on April 15, 1993:                            [email protected] Aiyagari, Sanjay          [email protected] Alcorn, Justin            [email protected] Arien, Peter              LAAAA43%[email protected] Asselin, Andre            [email protected] Aurand, Tom               [email protected] Baechler, Cedric          [email protected] Bartlett, Warren          [email protected] Bates, John               [email protected] Beadles, J.               [email protected] Beal, Kenneth             [email protected] Bedersdorfer, Jochen      [email protected] Bell, Douglas             [email protected] Benningfield, Robert      concert.net!aurs01!aurw7a!benningf Biegel, Bryan             [email protected] Blackman, Ed              [email protected] Bodnar, John              [email protected] Boisvert, Wesley          [email protected] boneham, kevin            [email protected] Boresch, Stefan           [email protected] Boschma, Wilfried         [email protected] Botha, David              [email protected] Bowe, Nathaniel           [email protected] Bowers, Neil              [email protected] Braun,David               [email protected] Bronner, Geoffrey         [email protected] Brors, Dieter             [email protected] Brown, Bill               [email protected] Cambria, Michael          [email protected] Carlson, Bill             [email protected] Champion, Evan            [email protected] Chandonia, John           [email protected] Chen, Ted                 [email protected] Chua, Hak                 [email protected] Ciesielski, Boleslaw      [email protected] Clement, Bruce            [email protected] Clemente, Marc F.         [email protected] Cline, Ernest             [email protected] Cocking , Simon           [email protected] Compton, Curtis           [email protected] Costello, Robert          [email protected] Coulman, Randy            [email protected] Cox, Anthony              [email protected] Cox, Robert               [email protected] Culliton, Tom             [email protected] daigle, Joe               [email protected] DeCarlo, John             [email protected] Dippold, Ron              [email protected] Donaldson, Ian            [email protected] Drye, Stephen             [email protected] Duffy, Patrick            [email protected] Dusitsin, Krid            [email protected] Erzberger, Martin         [email protected] Feldtmann, Marten         [email protected] Feustel, Edward           [email protected] filippini,luigi           [email protected] Fischer, Stefan           [email protected] Fleuren, Rik              [email protected] Francis, Tim              [email protected] Francois Menard           [email protected] Franks, Derek             [email protected] Franzki, Wolfgang         [email protected] Friedrich, Jochen         [email protected] Friis, Torben             [email protected] G"unther, Stefan          [email protected] Galarza, Edward           [email protected] Gammon, Robert            [email protected] Gartler, Hermann          [email protected] Garzik, Jeff              [email protected] Gershman, Mark            [email protected] Giller, David R.          [email protected] Gnassi, John              [email protected] Goyal, Mohit              [email protected] Green, Anthony            [email protected] Grupenhoff, Mike          [email protected] Guo, Youren               [email protected] Hacker;Jonathan           [email protected] Haggerty, Michael         [email protected] Hargrave, BJ              [email protected] Hartman, Shane            [email protected] Hartzman, Les             [email protected] Hassa, George             [email protected] Hed, Nevo                 [email protected] Heederik, Robbert         [email protected] Hellerhoff, Torsten       [email protected] Hendel, Bernd             [email protected] Henriksen, Gerald         [email protected] Henry, Andrew             [email protected] Herbison, B.J.            [email protected] Herron, Kenneth           [email protected] Hilmer, Andrew            [email protected] Hoang, Long               [email protected] Hodge, Bob                [email protected] Hodges, Matthew           [email protected] Hollebone, Bruce          [email protected] holsman, Ian              [email protected] Hopkins, John             [email protected] Hoppenbrouwers, Jeroen    [email protected] Howard, Robert            [email protected] Huang, Ping               [email protected] Jackson, Dave             [email protected] Jensen, Colin             [email protected] Kassarjian, Steven        [email protected] Kiehl, Horst              [email protected] Kitchin, Bruce            [email protected] Kone, Bob                 [email protected] Kovarski, Mark            [email protected] Kretzer, Myke             [email protected] Lacy, Stephen             [email protected] lai, william              [email protected] Landy, Brian              [email protected] lau, frankie              [email protected] Lau, Stephen              [email protected] Lawton, Gef               [email protected] Le Glasse, Franck         [email protected] Lebius, Henning           [email protected] lee, james                [email protected] Lehtonen, Jari            [email protected] Leitner, Thomas           [email protected] Lempriere, Mike           [email protected] Lentin, Kevin             [email protected] Leung, Johnnie            [email protected] Lim, Pean                 [email protected] Lin, Steven               [email protected] Lindholm, George          [email protected] Liukkonen, Juha           [email protected] Logan, Stan               [email protected] Lu, Kevin                 [email protected] Martin, Johannes          [email protected] Mashao, Daniel            [email protected] Maturo, Larry             [email protected] Maxwell, Scott            [email protected] Mayer, Gunther H.         [email protected] Maynard, Jay              [email protected] McCarthy, Christopher     [email protected] Mcgehrin, Matthew         [email protected]@des.edu McGing, John              [email protected] McGuire, Ed               [email protected] McMillan, Andrew          [email protected] meyer, jeff               [email protected] Miller, Richard           [email protected] Mittelstaedt, Olaf H.-P.  [email protected] moorcroft, marc           [email protected] Morrison, John Paul       [email protected] Mosher, David             [email protected] Mouawad, Naji.            [email protected] Mullins, Don              [email protected] Nadler, Cliff             [email protected] Nareid, Helge             [email protected] Narinian, Vartan          [email protected] Norton, Charles M.        [email protected] o'neel, bruce             [email protected] O'Rourke, Sean            [email protected] Oldham, C. R.             [email protected] Olson, Eric               [email protected] Oussoren, Ronald          [email protected] owens, bill               [email protected] Parks, Dwayne             [email protected] Parry, Tom                [email protected] Pebly, Bob                [email protected] Perdue, Alicia            [email protected] Petro, Herbert            [email protected] Pietilainen, Pekka        [email protected] Poole, David              [email protected] Powell, Stephen           [email protected] Prescod, Paul             [email protected] Provensal, jerome         uunet.UU.NET!iac!jerome Quinn, Michael            [email protected] Rao, Venkat               [email protected] Reisert, Jim              [email protected] Reynolds, Robert          [email protected] Robertson, James          [email protected] Roelofs, Greg             [email protected] Rosenvold, Johan Kristian [email protected] Ruppel, Markus            [email protected] Ryan, Sean                [email protected] Salomon, Larry            [email protected] Schimke, Nathan           [email protected] Schipper, Haijo           [email protected] Seymour, Jim              [email protected] Shankar, Gess             [email protected] Shaw, Jeremy              [email protected] Sierwald, Joern           [email protected] SIPPLES, TIMOTHY          [email protected] Skogstad, Oddbjorn        [email protected] Smith, Donald             [email protected] Smith, Eliot              [email protected] Sneath, Tim               [email protected] Sorensen, Tom             [email protected] Sriram, N                 [email protected] Steele, Alan              [email protected] Steinkopf, Dirk           [email protected] Stirling, Ian T.          [email protected] Strazdus, Stephen         [email protected] streeter, carl            [email protected] Sum, Eva                  [email protected] Sum, Joey                 [email protected] Suttor, Jeff              [email protected] Swallow, Doug             [email protected] Sward, David              [email protected] Thomas, Stephen           [email protected] Thompson, Michael         [email protected] Tiffany, Bernard          [email protected] torremans, engelbert      etorrem%[email protected] Tremain, Jim              [email protected] Tsen, Maoee               [email protected] van der Lek, Petja        [email protected] Van Iwaarden, Ronald      [email protected] van Woerkom, Marc E.E.    [email protected] Veeraraghavan, Venkatesh  [email protected] Veldhuyzen, Eric          [email protected] Vigor, Kevin              [email protected] Villumsen, Ole            [email protected] Wald, David               [email protected] Wallace, Jack             [email protected] Wantosch, Rainer          [email protected] Watson, Brett             [email protected] Weber-Fahr, Christoph     [email protected] Weeks, Larry              [email protected] Werner, John              [email protected] West, Mike                [email protected] weyrich, orville          uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville White, Andrew             [email protected] Wiersema, Brian           [email protected] Wimmer, Carsten           [email protected] Wittenauer, Allen         [email protected] Woodbury, Gregory         [email protected] Worthington, Stephen      [email protected] Wright, Gregory           [email protected] Wyble, Richard            transfer.stratus.com!schunix!rwyble YOUNG, DAVID M.           [email protected] Zabbal, Christian         [email protected] zawodny, jeremy           [email protected] Zou, Nan                  [email protected] --  --:--~  (OS|  Mike Levis       Unofficial OS/2 Spokesmodel S/2)  .--:-| --:--(OS/2)|  [email protected]   ->          votes  (OS/2)--~ |  [email protected]  -> clarifications  From [email protected] Wed Apr 28 18:55:17 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mike Levis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.multimedia Subject: RESULT: comp.os.os2.{programmer.porting,setup,multimedia,bugs} pass Followup-To: news.groups Date: 27 Apr 1993 16:36:13 -0400 Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 403 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3517 news.groups:70954 comp.os.os2.programmer:12831 comp.os.os2.misc:59424 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:9153 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:4497 comp.os.msdos.programmer:24747 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:62483 comp.multimedia:6821  Introduction:  	This is the Results document for the creation of four OS/2 	newsgroups and the renaming of one (all unmoderated): 	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting     passes 227:39 	(b)  renaming of comp.os.os2.programmer to 	     comp.os.os2.programmer.misc               passes 224:44 	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup                  passes 241:31 	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia             passes 226:35 	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs                   passes 238:34   Voting Results:   	NEWSGROUP NAME                 | YES NO  ABS | TOT | Y-N Y/(Y+N) | 	------------------------------ | --- --- --- | --- | --- ------- | 	comp.os.os2.programmer.porting | 227 039 019 | 285 | 188 85.338% | 	comp.os.os2.programmer.misc    | 224 044 017 | 285 | 180 83.582% | 	comp.os.os2.setup              | 241 031 013 | 285 | 210 88.603% | 	comp.os.os2.multimedia         | 226 035 024 | 285 | 191 86.590% | 	comp.os.os2.bugs               | 238 034 013 | 285 | 204 87.500% |  	* YES shows the number of YES votes 	* NO shows the number of NO votes 	* ABS shows the number of abstains 	* TOT shows the total number of votes (YES+NO+ABS) 	* Y-N shows the margin of YES minus NO votes 	* Y/(Y+N) show the percentage of YES votes to NO votes  	All of the proposals pass because the margin of YES minus NO 	votes are at least 100, and the percentage of YES votes to NO 	votes are at least 66.667%.   Proposed Charters:  	(a)  create comp.os.os2.programmer.porting (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for developers of ported software so 		as to coordinate efforts, avoid duplication of effort, and 		spur additional development.  The group will also cover 		topics such as porting from other platforms (such as DOS, 		Windows, UNIX, etc), toolkits which aid in program 		portability (including porting tools such as Mirrors), and 		so forth.  	(b)  rename: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc (unmoderated)  		To keep the structure of the OS/2 newsgroup heirarchy 		orthogonal, comp.os.os2.programmer should be renamed to 		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc.  		comp.os.os2.programmer.misc will still be the newsgroup 		for OS/2 programmers to discuss programming issues and 		technical aspects of OS/2 in an unmoderated setting.  	(c)  create comp.os.os2.setup (unmoderated)  		It will be devoted to OS/2 system setup topics, including the 		availability of device drivers, compatibility information, 		installation procedures, system requirements, and overall 		performance optimization.  	(d)  create comp.os.os2.multimedia (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for discussion of multi-media issues.  	(e)  create comp.os.os2.bugs (unmoderated)  		It will provide a forum for OS/2 system bug reports, bug 		diagnosis and work arounds, the availability of system 		patches and corrective service disks, and so forth.  		[Note that discussion of bugs in applications belong in other 		newsgroups, and discussion of bugs in OS/2 betas belong in 		comp.os.os2.beta]   Schedule:  	The voting period started on March 29 when the first CFV was posted 	by David Lawrence (the news.announce.newgroups moderator).  	The voting period ended at 11:59:59 pm (Central Time), on 	April 24, 1993.  Votes received after that time will not count.  	As soon as this Results documented is posted by David Lawrence, 	there will be a five day waiting period for the net to correct 	any errors in the voter list or the voting procedure.  When this 	waiting period is over, David Lawrence will send the newgroup 	messages.  Voter List:  	Here is the list of people who have either voted ambiguously 	or voted using the ballot from the previous comp.os.os2.* 	voting.  I attempted to contact these people about their votes 	but I received no reply.  		[email protected] (Lewis Kawecki) 		Rob Knauerhase <[email protected]> 		[email protected] (Michael Quintero)   	Here is the list of people who have voted and how they voted. 	After each voter's name and e-mail address are their votes for 	comp.os.os2.programmer.porting, comp.os.os2.programmer.misc, 	comp.os.os2.setup, comp.os.os2.multimedia, and comp.os.os2.bugs, 	where 'Y' = YES, 'N' = NO, and '-' = abstain.    Aiyagari, Sanjay                       [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Alcorn, Justin                          [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Alexiou, Peter                     [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Allen, John                               [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Arien, Peter             LAAAA43%[email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Asselin, Andre                                     [email protected]    N N N Y N Aurand, Tom                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Baechler, Cedric                            [email protected]    Y Y Y Y - Barnett, Rick                                 [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Bartlett, Warren                            [email protected]    Y Y Y - Y Bates, John                                          [email protected]    Y Y Y Y N Beadles, J.                                    [email protected]    N N N N N Beal, Kenneth                      [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Beal, Stuart                                     [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Bedersdorfer, Jochen                        [email protected]    Y Y Y N Y Bell, Douglas                                   [email protected]    Y Y Y N N Benningfield, Robert           concert.net!aurs01!aurw7a!benningf    Y Y Y Y Y Biegel, Bryan                          [email protected]    Y Y N Y Y Blackman, Ed                               [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Bodnar, John                           [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Boisvert, Wesley                             [email protected]    Y Y - Y Y boneham, kevin                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Boom, Hendrik                 hendrik%[email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Boresch, Stefan                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Boschma, Wilfried                               [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Botha, David                            [email protected]    Y Y Y - Y Bowe, Nathaniel                                [email protected]    Y Y Y - Y Bowers, Neil                            [email protected]    N N N N N Braun,David                                [email protected]    Y Y Y Y N Bronner, Geoffrey                       [email protected]    N N N N N Brors, Dieter                                            [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Brown, Bill                           [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Cambria, Michael                       [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Carlson, Bill                        [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Carr, Derek                              [email protected]    - N Y Y Y Champion, Evan                              [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Chandonia, John                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Charlap, David                             [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Chen, Ted                                          [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Chua, Hak                                 [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Ciesielski, Boleslaw                          [email protected]    N N Y Y N Clement, Bruce                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Clemente, Marc F.                          [email protected]    - - Y Y Y Cline, Ernest                      [email protected]    N N N N - Cocking , Simon                     [email protected]    Y Y - N Y Cole, Peter                                   [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Compton, Curtis                          [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Costello, Robert                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Coulman, Randy                             [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Cox, Anthony                                  [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Cox, Robert                               [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Culliton, Tom                                 [email protected]    N N N N N daigle, Joe                                  [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y DeCarlo, John                                  [email protected]    - - Y Y Y Dippold, Ron                                [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Donaldson, Ian                                   [email protected]    N Y Y N N Drye, Stephen                  [email protected]    Y Y Y Y N Dubbs, Bruce                                   [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Duffy, Patrick                           [email protected]    N N N N N Dufour, Arnaud                          [email protected]    - Y Y Y Y Dusitsin, Krid                                [email protected]    Y Y Y - Y Erzberger, Martin                            [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Feldtmann, Marten                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Feustel, Edward                                  [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y filippini,luigi                             [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Fischer, Stefan                         [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Fleuren, Rik                                       [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Francis, Tim                                 [email protected]    Y Y Y - Y Francois Menard                             [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Franks, Derek                       [email protected]    Y N Y Y Y Franzki, Wolfgang            [email protected]    Y Y Y - Y Friedrich, Jochen                                  [email protected]    - - N Y Y Friis, Torben                                  [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y G"unther, Stefan          [email protected]    Y - Y Y Y Galarza, Edward                             [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Gammon, Robert                             [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Gartler, Hermann                             [email protected]    Y Y Y Y Y Garzik, Jeff                             [email protected]    Y Y Y N Y Gershman, Mark                             [email protected]    Y Y N Y Y Giller, David R.                        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