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From [email protected] Sat Jan 22 17:55:09 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Alan Buxey <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.misc,rec.games.video.misc Subject: RFD: comp.sys.amiga.cd32 and rec.games.video.cd32 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 22 Jan 1994 16:24:22 -0500 Organization: sussex.ac.uk Lines: 55 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4485 news.groups:92707 comp.sys.amiga.misc:45876 rec.games.video.misc:14087  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION - COMP.SYS.AMIGA.CD32  This is a formal request for discussion on the subject of creating the unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.amiga.cd32 . Discussion will take place in the newsgroup news.groups.  Justification -------------  There are already many comp.sys.amiga.* groups present. But these all focus on the main Commodore computers the Amiga A--- series. Commodore have recently released a console version of their newest machine (the A1200) and this sets up a whole new ball game since it is a "console" rather than a full-fledged computer (right now). the machine requires its own breathing space - as currently it is discussed, comparisons made to/against it and the latest games for it talked about but all of this information is flooded out by the large percentage of already present Amiga computer talk.   Charter -------  comp.sys.amiga.cd32 will be present to discuss the related topics to do with it. These include the following  - the games for it - latest add-ons - discussions of peripherals - help to owners - the usual bickering (that would hopefully move on....)  in support of this group, may I also suggest a rec. group  rec.video.cd32  (just as the 3d0 and jaguar have groups there) - for the people who will class the machine JUST as a games console.   articles from comp.sys.amiga.cd32 will be cross posted to  - comp.sys.amiga.games   (to be discussed in news.groups) - comp.sys.amiga.multimedia   (ditto)  as i believe that these are very related groups.   This was my first request for a group. And I hope that i have done it correctly :).   Alan Buxey     [email protected] --                                 ___   __           ___    _         .----------------------.      ///\\  |\\   /| || //  `  /\\     __  __ 32 |      Alan Buxey      | __  ///  \\ | \\ /|| ||(( __  /  \\   //  ||\\    |[email protected]| \\\///--- \\l  \/ ll ll \\_ll/--- \\  \\_ ||//    From [email protected] Wed Mar  9 23:35:12 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jan Isley) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.misc,rec.games.video.misc Subject: CFV: comp.sys.amiga.cd32, rec.games.video.cd32 Followup-To: poster Date: 9 Mar 1994 17:29:34 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 121 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 31 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Jan Isley) Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4727 news.groups:97628 comp.sys.amiga.games:53465 comp.sys.amiga.misc:48608 rec.games.video.misc:14857  FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)  unmoderated group comp.sys.amiga.cd32 unmoderated group rec.games.video.cd32  Newsgroups line:  comp.sys.amiga.cd32	Technical and computing talk for Commodore Amiga CD32. rec.games.video.cd32	Gaming talk, info and help for the Amiga CD32.  Please read this entire post before replying.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, [ *** ] March 1994.   This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For questions about voting contact Jan Isley <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed groups contact Alan L.M. Buxey <[email protected]>  CHARTERS  comp.sys.amiga.cd32  discussion for the following topics - using CD32 as a slave drive - Add-ons for the CD32 (eg FMV addition) - Technical talk about CD32 - Serious issues for CD32 (piracy etc)  rec.games.video.cd32  - Games on the CD32 - Peoples opinions about games out - Hints and tips for games - Rumours/lists of games available/coming  Other discussions may occur on these groups as time goes on, CD is a new revolution and only time will tell what can occur.  WHY VOTE FOR THESE GROUPS  We are just witnessing the sudden birth of the 32-bit CDROM age, the past 4 months have seen a huge explosion in the interest of gaming from the CD. There are huge increases weekly in the numbers of silver discs being sold with games and serious software pressed onto them instead of the latest pop hit...and CD32 - which is lonely without a group is one of the main contenders - both as a game platform and as a pro-serious computing platform.   Within the year, you will find >100,000 of CD32 machines will have turned into fully-fledged computer systems thanks to 2 new module add-ons from 3rd party developers - one, the SX1 is already available. Many will also have become slave CD-ROM's.   The machine is ALSO an AMIGA  - so many computing people will want the comp.* group - also, many  of the problems will be amiga type problems (of memory and how the  thing works in general) - this can only be dealt with by amiga people - not just games oriented people.   The add-on for the A4000 to allow CD32 gaming is still in main development and as this is the main development platform, its release is imminently in the spring - exactly when the cd32 groups will finally form!   But there is also no denying that the CD32 isn't a games console either, far from it! So the rec.games.video.cd32 group is also required - to take the CD32 into the main arena for it isn't just a computing system.   The CD32 now has 45% of the CDROM market in the UK (this is a true figure from the trade press) against 27% for the PC CDROM (which is dominated by multimedia and serious software). Admittedly, the market on CD32 right now is games - provoking the rec. group but what happens when the serious software comes out for CD32 (ie Wordworth 3, pagestream 3 and many more such titles..- all would utilize CD medium to the full)?   So we require the 2 groups,   One to put all CD32 bandwidth from all comp.sys.amiga.* groups into one group where it can be seen clearly. Another for just the gamers out there who only want game discussion.   HOW TO VOTE  Please do not mail this entire post.  I know what it says. :-) Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names.  Please give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then mail the ballot to: [email protected] Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  Amiga CD32 vote Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here:  [Your Vote]  Group ------------------ [         ]  comp.sys.amiga.cd32 [         ]  rec.games.video.cd32  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledgment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.  It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published with the final voting results. --  Jan Isley, [email protected] or mathcs.emory.edu!bagend!jan votes to: [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Mar 22 20:13:31 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jan Isley) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.misc,rec.games.video.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.amiga.cd32, rec.games.video.cd32 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 17 Mar 1994 15:52:02 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 136 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 31 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Jan Isley) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4798 news.groups:98452 comp.sys.amiga.games:54183 comp.sys.amiga.misc:48980 rec.games.video.misc:15112  LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)  unmoderated group comp.sys.amiga.cd32 unmoderated group rec.games.video.cd32  Newsgroups line:  comp.sys.amiga.cd32	Technical and computing talk for Commodore Amiga CD32. rec.games.video.cd32	Gaming talk, info and help for the Amiga CD32.  Please read this entire post before replying.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 30 March 1994.   This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For questions about voting contact Jan Isley <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed groups contact Alan L.M. Buxey <[email protected]>  CHARTERS  comp.sys.amiga.cd32  discussion for the following topics - using CD32 as a slave drive - Add-ons for the CD32 (eg FMV addition) - Technical talk about CD32 - Serious issues for CD32 (piracy etc)  rec.games.video.cd32  - Games on the CD32 - Peoples opinions about games out - Hints and tips for games - Rumours/lists of games available/coming  Other discussions may occur on these groups as time goes on, CD is a new revolution and only time will tell what can occur.  WHY VOTE FOR THESE GROUPS  We are just witnessing the sudden birth of the 32-bit CDROM age, the past 4 months have seen a huge explosion in the interest of gaming from the CD. There are huge increases weekly in the numbers of silver discs being sold with games and serious software pressed onto them instead of the latest pop hit...and CD32 - which is lonely without a group is one of the main contenders - both as a game platform and as a pro-serious computing platform.   Within the year, you will find >100,000 of CD32 machines will have turned into fully-fledged computer systems thanks to 2 new module add-ons from 3rd party developers - one, the SX1 is already available. Many will also have become slave CD-ROM's.   The machine is ALSO an AMIGA  - so many computing people will want the comp.* group - also, many  of the problems will be amiga type problems (of memory and how the  thing works in general) - this can only be dealt with by amiga people - not just games oriented people.   The add-on for the A4000 to allow CD32 gaming is still in main development and as this is the main development platform, its release is imminently in the spring - exactly when the cd32 groups will finally form!   But there is also no denying that the CD32 isn't a games console either, far from it! So the rec.games.video.cd32 group is also required - to take the CD32 into the main arena for it isn't just a computing system.   The CD32 now has 45% of the CDROM market in the UK (this is a true figure from the trade press) against 27% for the PC CDROM (which is dominated by multimedia and serious software). Admittedly, the market on CD32 right now is games - provoking the rec. group but what happens when the serious software comes out for CD32 (ie Wordworth 3, pagestream 3 and many more such titles..- all would utilize CD medium to the full)?   So we require the 2 groups,   One to put all CD32 bandwidth from all comp.sys.amiga.* groups into one group where it can be seen clearly. Another for just the gamers out there who only want game discussion.   HOW TO VOTE  Please do not mail this entire post.  I know what it says. :-) Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names.  Please give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts.  Then mail the ballot to: [email protected] Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  Amiga CD32 vote Ballot     (Don't remove this marker)  Give your real name here:  [Your Vote]  Group ------------------ [         ]  comp.sys.amiga.cd32 [         ]  rec.games.video.cd32  -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledgment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.  It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published with the final voting results.  Amiga CD32 vote Bounce Ack List ------------------------------- amusers.UUCP!Bradley cs.weber.edu!val dra.exeter.ac.uk!ken elmo.c-som.siu.edu!allenw golum.riv.csu.edu.au!gfellows helm.cadlab.de!chandler ox.ac.uk!teaching.physics!edwards ox.ac.uk!teaching.physics!kinder rintintin.Colorado.EDU!hassell startrek.incubus.sub.org!jrs tower.UUCP!davido tpsparc!miker --  Jan Isley, [email protected] or mathcs.emory.edu!bagend!jan votes to: [email protected]  From [email protected] Mon Apr 11 19:36:38 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jan Isley) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.misc,rec.games.video.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.amiga.cd32, rec.games.video.cd32 pass {464:56,463:51} Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 8 Apr 1994 16:08:33 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 602 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4917 news.groups:100154 comp.sys.amiga.games:55413 comp.sys.amiga.misc:49847 rec.games.video.misc:15513  RESULT: unmoderated group comp.sys.amiga.cd32  passes 464:56 RESULT: unmoderated group rec.games.video.cd32 passes 463:51  Amiga CD32 vote results - 532 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : --------------------  464   56 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.amiga.cd32  463   51 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : rec.games.video.cd32    8 invalid votes  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the groups shortly thereafter.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For questions about the vote contact Jan Isley <[email protected]>.  For questions about the newsgroups contact Alan L.M. Buxey <[email protected]>  Newsgroups line:  comp.sys.amiga.cd32     Technical and computing talk for Commodore Amiga CD32. rec.games.video.cd32    Gaming talk, info and help for the Amiga CD32.  CHARTERS  comp.sys.amiga.cd32  discussion for the following topics - using CD32 as a slave drive - Add-ons for the CD32 (eg FMV addition) - Technical talk about CD32 - Serious issues for CD32 (piracy etc)  rec.games.video.cd32  - Games on the CD32 - Peoples opinions about games out - Hints and tips for games - Rumours/lists of games available/coming  Other discussions may occur on these groups as time goes on, CD is a new revolution and only time will tell what can occur.  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