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From [email protected] Thu Jan 21 15:12:43 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mark James) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.ai,comp.databases,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object Subject: RFD: comp.databases.object Followup-To: news.groups Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:09:03 -0500 Organization: Dialogic (N.Z.) Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand Lines: 77 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3167 news.groups:64845 comp.ai:15153 comp.databases:21978 comp.lang.c++:36574 comp.lang.eiffel:3378 comp.lang.smalltalk:6188 comp.object:9439  This is a request for discussion of the proposal to create an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup called "comp.databases.object".  This name is not final; other suggestions are welcome during the discussion.  This announcement is cross-posted to newsgroups whose readers may have  interest in the discussion about the new group; follow-up discussion will take place in "news.groups".    PURPOSE  The proposed newsgroup "comp.databases.object" is intended to serve as a medium for the sharing of knowledge about systems which combine object-oriented technology with that of database management systems.   CONTENT  The "comp.databases.object" newsgroup would provide a forum for the discussion of issues surrounding the recent introduction of object- oriented database management systems.  It would provide a means whereby people with experience in these systems can share their knowledge; it would also give the growing number of people who are exploring this new field an opportunity to ask questions and provoke discussions concerning the suitability of object-oriented databases for the solution of specific problems.  The new newsgroup would also serve as a forum for discussing ongoing research into object-oriented databases, OODB programming interfaces and query languages, and related projects such as deductive and multimedia databases.  The newsgroup could also provide for discussion of systems which are not technically object-oriented database management systems, but which offer some form of persistent object storage; or, conversely, which are full database management systems that offer some object-oriented features.   RATIONALE  Currently, discussion concerning object-oriented databases is scattered across a number of newsgroups, mainly comp.databases and comp.object. A new newsgroup would centralize this discussion, avoiding repetition and encouraging those with something to say by providing a newsgroup which is obviously the "right" one for this topic.   ISSUES  The following questions should be resolved during the discussion:  1.  Is the name "comp.databases.object" the best one?  2.  Should the new group come under the comp.databases hierarchy at     all, or would it be better placed under comp.object?      2a.  Should we implement multiple inheritance in Usenet?  (:-)  3.  What should our attitude be toward vendor publicity?  (This     should be a guideline only, since we probably don't want a     moderated group -- but we can consider that too, if desired.)  4.  Would there be enough contributors (and not just readers) to the     new group to warrant its creation?   DISCUSSION PERIOD AND VOTE  The discussion period will be from 21 January 1993 to 18 February 1993. Please post all discussion in "news.groups", cross-posting as appropriate. If a consensus is reached by the end of the discussion period, a CFV  (Call for Votes) will be posted at that time.  The voting period, in accordance with Usenet guidelines, will last for 30 days. --  Mark James  <[email protected]>  **[ Opinions are mine ]** Dialogic (N.Z.) Ltd.                Voice:  +64 9 302 1794 ext 27 Auckland, New Zealand               Fax:    +64 9 302 1793  From [email protected] Thu Feb 18 23:11:36 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mark James) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.ai,comp.databases,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.databases.object Followup-To: news.groups Date: 15 Feb 1993 19:39:37 -0500 Organization: Dialogic (N.Z.) Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand Lines: 74 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3248 news.groups:66735 comp.ai:15571 comp.databases:22714 comp.lang.c++:37946 comp.lang.eiffel:3434 comp.lang.smalltalk:6414 comp.object:9763  This is a request for discussion of the proposal to create an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup called "comp.databases.object".  This name is not final; other suggestions are welcome during the discussion.  This announcement is cross-posted to newsgroups whose readers may have  interest in the discussion about the new group; follow-up discussion will take place in "news.groups".  Suggestions, comments or problems may also be E-mailed to me at [email protected]  PURPOSE  The proposed newsgroup "comp.databases.object" is intended to serve as a medium for the sharing of knowledge about systems which combine object-oriented technology with that of database management systems.  CONTENT  The "comp.databases.object" newsgroup would provide a forum for the discussion of issues surrounding the recent introduction of object- oriented database management systems.  It would provide a means whereby people with experience in these systems can share their knowledge; it would also give the growing number of people who are exploring this new field an opportunity to ask questions and provoke discussions concerning the suitability of object-oriented databases for the solution of specific problems.  The new newsgroup would also serve as a forum for discussing ongoing research into object-oriented databases, OODB programming interfaces and query languages, and related projects such as deductive and multimedia databases.  The newsgroup could also provide for discussion of systems which are not technically object-oriented database management systems, but which offer some form of persistent object storage; or, conversely, which are full database management systems that offer some object-oriented features.  RATIONALE  Currently, discussion concerning object-oriented databases is scattered across a number of newsgroups, mainly comp.databases and comp.object. A new newsgroup would centralize this discussion, avoiding repetition and encouraging those with something to say by providing a newsgroup which is obviously the "right" one for this topic.  ISSUES  The following questions should be resolved during the discussion:  1.  Is the name "comp.databases.object" the best one?  2.  Should the new group come under the comp.databases hierarchy at     all, or would it be better placed under comp.object?      2a.  Should we implement multiple inheritance in Usenet?  (:-)  3.  What should our attitude be toward vendor publicity?  (This     should be a guideline only, since we probably don't want a     moderated group -- but we can consider that too, if desired.)  4.  Would there be enough contributors (and not just readers) to the     new group to warrant its creation?   DISCUSSION PERIOD AND VOTE  The discussion period will be from 21 January 1993 to 18 February 1993. Please post all discussion in "news.groups", cross-posting as appropriate. If a consensus is reached by the end of the discussion period, a CFV  (Call for Votes) will be posted at that time.  The voting period, in accordance with Usenet guidelines, will last for 30 days. --  Mark James  <[email protected]>  **[ Opinions are mine ]** Dialogic (N.Z.) Ltd.                Voice:  +64 9 302 1794 ext 27 Auckland, New Zealand               Fax:    +64 9 302 1793  From [email protected] Tue Feb 23 23:38:57 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mark James) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.ai,comp.databases,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object Subject: CFV: comp.databases.object Followup-To: poster Date: 23 Feb 1993 14:27:54 -0500 Organization: Dialogic (N.Z.) Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand Lines: 65 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3269 news.groups:67292 comp.ai:15692 comp.databases:22941 comp.lang.c++:38446 comp.lang.eiffel:3472 comp.lang.smalltalk:6513 comp.object:9855  This is a CALL FOR VOTES for or against the creation of a new, unmoderated Usenet newsgroup called "comp.databases.object".  Following the thirty-day discussion period just ended, it is proposed  that the group comp.databases.object be created as a vehicle for  discussions on all systems that combine the object paradigm with  database storage features (including, but by no means limited to,  commercially-available object-oriented database management systems).  If you wish to vote for or against the creation of this newsgroup, please read on.   THE VOTE  To vote for or against the creation of comp.databases.object, send  an E-mail message to the following address:  Internet:  [email protected] UUCP:      ...!uunet!dialogic!procor!jamesm  The wording of the message can be anything you like, as long as it is an *unambiguous* vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup. Suggested wording:      "I vote FOR the creation of comp.databases.object as proposed."       "I vote AGAINST the creation of comp.databases.object as proposed."  Only votes *mailed* to the above address will count.  (Votes posted to the net will not be counted.)  Any ambiguous wording, such as "I vote for comp.databases.object, as long as ...", or "I vote NO unless ...", will not count.  VOTING PERIOD:  Votes will be accepted from now through 19 March 1993. Votes postmarked after 19 March 1993 will not be counted.  At least  once during the voting period, a reminder Call For Votes will be posted  to the net.  Also, at least once during the voting period, I will post  a "mass acknowledgment" of votes.  This is a list of people whose votes  have been received (but not how they voted).  Watch out for this list;  if you have voted, but are not on the list, send your vote again.   (Don't worry, only one vote per person will count.)  If you have not voted, but your name is on the list, complain loudly!  AFTER THE VOTE:  Shortly after 19 March 1993, the results will be posted to the net.  This will consist of a list of all those who voted, and how they voted.  Make sure that your vote is properly recorded here; there is a five-day grace period during which you can correct the record.  After the five-day period, the vote is final.  If the "YES" votes outnumber the "NO" votes by a 2:1 ratio, and also by a margin of 100 votes or more, then the news.announce.newgroups moderator will send out a message for the creation of comp.databases.object.  If the "YES" votes fail to attain this margin of victory, then under the Usenet guidelines, the idea of the comp.databases.object newsgroup will not be entertained again for at least another six months.  If you have an opinion for or against the creation of the group comp.databases.object, please vote.  If you have questions or problems, E-mail me. --  Mark James  <[email protected]>  **[ Opinions are mine ]** Dialogic (N.Z.) Ltd.                Voice:  +64 9 302 1794 ext 27 Auckland, New Zealand               Fax:    +64 9 302 1793  From [email protected] Wed Mar 10 21:08:02 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mark James) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.ai,comp.databases,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.databases.object Followup-To: poster Date: 3 Mar 1993 23:52:27 -0500 Organization: dialogic.com Lines: 296 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3320 news.groups:67535 comp.ai:15812 comp.databases:23202 comp.lang.c++:38936 comp.lang.eiffel:3491 comp.lang.smalltalk:6616 comp.object:9968                            2nd CALL FOR VOTES                                  and                      MASS ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF VOTES                       for the proposed newsgroup                         comp.databases.object  It is proposed that the group comp.databases.object be created as a  vehicle for discussions on all systems that combine the object  paradigm with database storage features (including, but by no means  limited to, commercially-available object-oriented database  management systems).  If you wish to vote for or against the creation of this newsgroup, please send an E-mail message to the following address:  Internet:  [email protected] UUCP:      ...!uunet!dialogic!procor!jamesm  The wording of the message can be anything you like, as long as it is an *unambiguous* vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup. Suggested wording:      "I vote FOR the creation of comp.databases.object as proposed."       "I vote AGAINST the creation of comp.databases.object as proposed."  Only votes *mailed* to the above address will count.  (Votes posted to the net will not be counted.)  Any ambiguous wording, such as "I vote for comp.databases.object, as long as ...", or "I vote NO unless ...", will not count.  VOTING PERIOD:  Votes will be accepted from now through 19 March 1993. Votes postmarked after 19 March 1993 will not be counted.  Appended below is a list of people whose votes have been received thus far (but not how they voted).  If you have voted and your name is not on the  list, send your vote again.  (Don't worry, only one vote per person  will count.)  If you have not voted, but your name is on the list,  complain loudly!  AFTER THE VOTE:  Shortly after 19 March 1993, the results will be posted to the net.  This will consist of a list of all those who voted, and how they voted.  Make sure that your vote is properly recorded here; there is a five-day grace period during which you can correct the record.  After the five-day period, the vote is final.  If the "YES" votes outnumber the "NO" votes by a 2:1 ratio, and also by a margin of 100 votes or more, then the news.announce.newgroups moderator will send out a message for the creation of comp.databases.object.  If the "YES" votes fail to attain this margin of victory, then under the Usenet guidelines, the idea of the comp.databases.object newsgroup will not be entertained again for at least another six months.   MASS VOTE ACKNOWLEDGMENT  Following is a list of votes that have been received by 1:00 pm New Zealand Time on Sunday, 28 February 1993.  (This is 0h GMT, or 7pm 27 Feb in New York.)  The list is sorted in alphabetical order by login name, as taken from the "From:" line of the vote message. (Note that some UUCP bang path addresses are slightly mangled.)  No indication of how people voted, or how the vote is going in general, will be given until after voting closes.   [email protected] (Gordon H. Smith) [email protected] (Alan D. Cabrera) [email protected] (Ekard Burger)  [email protected] (Colonel Panic)  [email protected] (Andrew Schonberger) [email protected] (Andrew Myers)  [email protected] (Angelika Kotz Dittrich GLA2-KZG)  [email protected] (Ramkrishna Reddy Anugula) [email protected] (Arnt Harald Johansen)  [email protected] (Arthur Griffith)  [email protected] (Rolf Assfalg)  [email protected] (B. Aram) [email protected] (Bart Maessen) [email protected] (thirty something)  [email protected] (Bruce A Kissinger) [email protected] (George Burgyan)  [email protected] (Brian Glendenning)  [email protected] (Robert Hutchison)  [email protected] (Banchong Harangsri)  [email protected] (Michael Bobak)  [email protected] (Brad Appleton)  [email protected] (Matt Breaden) [email protected] (Brian GUAN) [email protected] (Bruno Poyet)  [email protected] (Lester Buck)  [email protected] (Steve Carney +33 50.31.54.66 25-Feb-1993 1100)  [email protected] (Dave Carr)  [email protected]!soi (Christopher Small)  [email protected] (Michael Christiansen)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Stewart M. Clamen) [email protected]  [email protected] (Ernest A. Cline) [email protected] (Mike Coleman)  [email protected] (Coman B T)  [email protected] (Robert Cooper) [email protected] (Craig Nirosky )  [email protected] (Lalit Agarwal) [email protected] (Shaun Cutts)  [email protected] (Carlos A. 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Smith) [email protected] (Svante Kleist) [email protected] (Einar Wolfgang Karlsen)  [email protected] (Francois EXERTIER) [email protected] (Frank Lenzen)  [email protected] (Frank Tuijnman)  [email protected] (Ghee Ong) [email protected] (Stella Gatziu) [email protected] (Georg Rehfeld)  [email protected] (Andreas Geppert) [email protected] (Gerome Canals) [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)  [email protected] (Carolyn Giberson) [email protected]  [email protected] (Brian Gladish)  [email protected] (Gary L. Schaps)  [email protected] (Ger van Diepen)  [email protected] (Johann Eder)  [email protected] (Harry D Tirrell)  [email protected] (Harry Danilevsky)  [email protected] (Scott Henry)  [email protected] (Thomas Hilgert) [email protected] (Kim Hyogon)  [email protected] (Philippe Homond)  [email protected] (Alex Honor -- ACF)  [email protected] (Eric Hughes)  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (Jacques M. 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Summers) [email protected] (Mike Summers)  [email protected] (Sunee Pongpinigpinyo)  [email protected]  [email protected] (James Synge)  [email protected] (Sudheer Thakur)  [email protected] (Dietmar Theobald) [email protected] (Thorsten Loerch)  [email protected] (Thom Boyer)  [email protected] (Srinivas Thotakura)  [email protected] (Thomas Kirk) [email protected]!tantalum (Tom H. Meyer)  [email protected] (Tony Menges)  [email protected] (Tor Iver Wilhelmsen) [email protected]  [email protected] (Th. Ritter (ToRi); SOC Telekom @FRS; 496103/383-925 25-Feb-1993 0915)  [email protected] (Ted Theodore W. Leung)  [email protected] (Steve Tynor)  [email protected] (Pasi Tyrvainen RC 910)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Vernon Hill)  [email protected] (Victor Hugo ZALDIVAR CARRILLO (thesard))  [email protected] (Wagner Michael) [email protected] (A. Evers) [email protected] (Bob Weiner) [email protected] (Robb Wheatley)  [email protected] (Tony Wilson) [email protected] (Wai-Sze Tam) [email protected] (Yanqing Wu)  [email protected] (Joshua Yeidel)  [email protected] (Peter Carr)   From [email protected] Thu Apr  1 16:05:08 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Mark James) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.ai,comp.databases,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object Subject: RESULT: comp.databases.object passes 433:26 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 26 Mar 1993 11:07:28 -0500 Organization: dialogic.com Lines: 496 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3384 news.groups:68543 comp.ai:16094 comp.databases:23909 comp.lang.c++:40386 comp.lang.eiffel:3543 comp.lang.smalltalk:6933 comp.object:10220  Voting for the proposed new newsgroup comp.databases.object has  concluded.  The final result is:       Votes in FAVOR of comp.databases.object:  433       Votes AGAINST comp.databases.object:       26  Since the votes in favor outnumber the votes against by more than a two-thirds margin and by more than 100 votes, the proposal PASSES.  I would like to thank everyone who took the trouble to vote.  An acknowledgment of votes for and against appears below.  Each group is sorted by login name.  (My apologies for the slight butchering of UUCP-style addresses.)  If you voted, please check to verify  that your vote is recorded correctly.  There will be a five-day  period after the posting of this result for people to correct any  errors.  After the five-day period, the result will be considered  final.  -- Mark James   <[email protected]> Dialogic Corporation, 300 Littleton Road, Parsippany NJ 07054 201:334-1268 ext 868  ===================================================================  Votes in FAVOR of comp.databases.object were received from:  [email protected] (I am LIN,Ching-Ho ...)  [email protected] (Guy Marentette)  [email protected] (Gordon H. Smith) [email protected]  [email protected] (Adriana Bezerra Sampaio) [email protected] (Ana Carolina Salgado) [email protected] (Alan D. Cabrera) [email protected] (Ekard Burger)  [email protected] (Ahmed Al-Ashabb) [email protected] (Eduardo Alessio) [email protected] (Allan Cobb) [email protected]  [email protected] (Alvaro Fernandes) [email protected] (Alok Mathur)  [email protected] (Andreas Hochleitner)  [email protected] (Andrew Schonberger) [email protected] (Andrew Myers)  [email protected] (Angelika Kotz Dittrich GLA2-KZG)  [email protected] (Ramkrishna Reddy Anugula) [email protected] (van) [email protected] (Arnt Harald Johansen)  [email protected] (Arthur Griffith)  [email protected] (Alexander Trump) [email protected] (Holger Assenmacher) [email protected] (Rolf Assfalg)  [email protected] (Angel Tirone x4982)  [email protected] (B. Aram) [email protected] (Pravin Baliga)  [email protected] (Ken Barker) [email protected] (Bart Maessen) [email protected] (thirty something)  [email protected] (Bruce A Kissinger) [email protected] (George Burgyan)  [email protected] (Brian Glendenning)  [email protected] (Bharathi Subramanian)  [email protected] (Robert Hutchison)  [email protected]!rossix (Michael Nowacki)  [email protected] (Raymond A. Biondi) [email protected]  [email protected] (Banchong Harangsri)  [email protected]!dlogics (Brian Fitzpatrick) [email protected] (Michael Bobak)  [email protected] (Bob Weissman)  [email protected] (Egbert J.W. 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Ritter (ToRi); SOC Telekom @FRS; 496103/383-925 25-Feb-1993 0915)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Ted Theodore W. Leung)  [email protected] (Steve Tynor)  [email protected] (Pasi Tyrvainen RC 910)  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (Vernon Hill)  [email protected] (Victor Hugo ZALDIVAR CARRILLO (thesard))  [email protected] (Wagner Michael) [email protected] (Steve Wart) [email protected] (A. Evers) [email protected] (Bob Weiner) [email protected] (Peter Wetzel) [email protected] (Robb Wheatley)  [email protected] (Norbert Widmann) [email protected] (Johan Wikman) [email protected] (Will Fitzgerald)  [email protected] (William Sun) [email protected] (Tony Wilson) [email protected]  [email protected] (Wai-Sze Tam) [email protected] (Yanqing Wu)  [email protected] (Jens E. Wunderwald) [email protected] (Chris Wysocki)  [email protected] (Joshua Yeidel)  [email protected] (Yli-Kuha Kari) [email protected] (Bing Yu)  [email protected] (Zixiong WANG)  [email protected] (Peter Carr)   Total:  433  ===================================================================  Votes AGAINST comp.databases.object were received from:  [email protected] (Hermano A. Cabral) [email protected] (Colonel Panic)  [email protected]!aurs01!aurw7a  [email protected] (Graeme Bowers)  [email protected] (Dave Carr)  [email protected] (Michael Christiansen)  [email protected] (Ernest A. Cline) [email protected]  [email protected] (Eric J. Olson) [email protected] (Volker Gaede)  [email protected] (Glenn Chin)  [email protected] (Herman Martins Gomes) [email protected] (Jonathan Creighton) [email protected] (Jay W. Noh)  [email protected] (Roland Kaltefleiter) [email protected] (Kirk (T.K.) McKibbon) [email protected] (Stephen Lau) [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (Leonore Neugebauer) [email protected] (Bill Owens)  [email protected] (Rizwan D. Mithani)  [email protected] (Marc Moorcroft) [email protected] (Paul Robinson) [email protected] (Stephen C. Trier)  [email protected] (Aarne Yla-Rotiala)   Total:  26