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Explorer MVE ( comp.graphics.explorer )

From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:09:57 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1826 news.groups:39231 comp.sys.sgi:16835 comp.graphics:21304 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.explorer Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1992 04:27:43 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 83  Request for Discussion (RFD) ============================  This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named :  		comp.graphics.explorer  What about the discussion ? =========================== 	This discussion will take place in the group : 		news.groups  If you're interested in taking part, this is the place to post to. If you feel you have any comments, then please try and contribute.  Brief Description of Explorer ============================= 	IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by SiliconGraphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any traditonal code.  IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines, and it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment be ported to several machines in the near future.   What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter)  =====================================================  	Part of the point of this posting is to try and talk over this very question #:-}  	Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself.  Some Issues =========== 	It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the possible issues include : 	(1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ? 		- should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or 		comp.sys.sgi.explorer ??? 	(2) Is there sufficient interest ?? 	(3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ? (related to 		point 1) 	(4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ? 		- if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do 		admirably with comp.sys.sgi ? 	(5) Should the group be moderated ?  Other Options ============= 	...include the formation of a mailing list as an interim measure. Is there any comment/interest in this ?  ...and finally ============== 	I feel that Explorer constitutes an important tool for scientists and engineers. The user-base has the potential to be vast, and indeed should potentially include ALL SGI customers.   With such a large potential user base, the scope for questions and discussion is enormous, and a USENET group for this purpose I think would be beneficial to users, module writers, and the Explorer developers. This last group could benefit from immediate feedback from the users, and the users in turn could feel that they have somewhere to ask questions, and hopefully increase their productivity.  The mailing list ================ 	If there is any interest in an alternative mailing list, could they please mail the following address : 		[email protected] i.e. NOT my personal mail address #:-}  Any comments would be useful - please not too many flames :) --  e|p Gordon Cameron				Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre		Email: [email protected]                     oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo  From [email protected] Fri Apr 24 13:56:38 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.cray,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.graphics From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Subject: RFD:  comp.graphics.explorer Followup-To: news.groups Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1992 14:39:55 GMT         oOo Request For Discusion - comp.graphics.explorer oOo        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named :                       comp.graphics.explorer  This discussion is to take place in the group news.groups which is an unmoderated discussion group. Please direct all comments, replies etc. to this group (crossposted if particularly relevant elsewhere)....                            oOo   oOo   oOo  What is Explorer ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment.  IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines, and it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment be ported to several machines in the near future. Currently modules are also availabe for Cray machines.                            oOo   oOo   oOo  Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group.  (The mailing list may be contacted for further details/subscriptions etc., at [email protected])                            oOo   oOo   oOo  What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter)  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself.  Perhaps something similar to comp.graphics.avs, or  comp.soft-sys.khoros.                             oOo   oOo   oOo  Some Questions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the possible issues include :  (1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ?     - should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or comp.sys.sgi.explorer ? (2) Is there sufficient interest ? (3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ?      (related to point 1) (4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ?     - if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do with        the mailing list at present? (5) Should the group be moderated ?                            oOo   oOo   oOo  Formation of Newsgroup ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  If response is favourable, then further details will be posted nearer the time (to all relevant newsgroups) detailing how people can vote either for or against the formation  Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~  The mailing list service will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News. Comments on this to [email protected]                            oOo   oOo   oOo --  e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: [email protected]     oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'  From [email protected] Thu May  7 07:26:29 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2306 news.groups:50442 comp.sys.sgi:20874 comp.graphics:26964 comp.graphics.visualization:1871 comp.unix.cray:730 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.unix.cray Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Subject: CFV:  comp.graphics.explorer Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 06:15:54 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 103         oOo Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  This is an initial call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group                     comp.graphics.explorer                          Unmoderated    Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE)                                         Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron                    [email protected]                    (see How to Vote below)                          oOo   oOo   oOo Group Charter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on other platforms in time.   Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working on future versions of the software.                          oOo   oOo   oOo How To Vote ~~~~~~~~~~~ To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual, only the last one will be registered.  Example of how to vote ---------------------- 	Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer or,	Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer  Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not count). The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored.                          oOo   oOo   oOo  What Happens Next ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be verified.  After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent out.  If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.                            oOo   oOo   oOo Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing [email protected]) is currently active and was formed after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News.  Comments on this to the request address. The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will remain active.                            oOo   oOo   oOo Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group.                            oOo   oOo   oOo  Remember - I can't say how to vote, but please DO vote !! --  e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: [email protected]     oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'  From [email protected] Mon May 18 14:52:19 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2357 news.groups:51172 comp.graphics:27248 comp.graphics.visualization:1922 comp.sys.sgi:21363 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.sys.sgi Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.graphics.explorer Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Mon, 18 May 1992 18:20:15 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 315         oOo 2nd Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo                     + Vote ACK - 16th May 1992        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  This is a 2nd call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group                     comp.graphics.explorer                          Unmoderated    Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE)                                         Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron                    [email protected]                    (see How to Vote below)  A list of voters registered so far (16th May 1992) appears at the end                         of this message                          oOo   oOo   oOo Group Charter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on other platforms in time.   Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working on future versions of the software.                          oOo   oOo   oOo How To Vote ~~~~~~~~~~~ To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual, only the last one will be registered.  Example of how to vote ----------------------  	To: [email protected]  	Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer or,	Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer  Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not count). The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored.                          oOo   oOo   oOo  What Happens Next ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be verified.  After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent out.  If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.                            oOo   oOo   oOo Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing [email protected]) is currently active and was formed after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News.  Comments on this to the request address. The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will remain active.                            oOo   oOo   oOo Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group.                            oOo   oOo   oOo  Votes received so far - any queries to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aaron Schuman <[email protected]> Al Globus <[email protected]> alan dare <[email protected]> Alan Knight <[email protected]> Alan Peevers <[email protected]> Alex Pang <[email protected]> Alex S. Crain <[email protected]> Andreas Wierse <[email protected]> Andrew J Wilson <[email protected]> Angelo Mangili <[email protected]> Augustine Lo <[email protected]> Bill E. Eickmeier <[email protected]> Bill Owens <[email protected]> Bill Southworth <[email protected]> Blaise Frederick <[email protected]> Bob Brown <[email protected]> Bob Lewis <[email protected]> Booker Bense <[email protected]> Brian Kauffman <[email protected]> Brian Kauffman <[email protected]> Bryan Reutter <[email protected]> Buck Buchanan <[email protected]> C Thornborrow <[email protected]> Cal Kirchhof <[email protected]> Charles Boesel <[email protected]> Charles Gaumond <[email protected]> Charles Ledogar <[email protected]> Chieh-Cheng J. Yen <[email protected]> Chris Galas <[email protected]> Chris Hebert <[email protected]> Chris Lilley <[email protected]> Chris Pennington <[email protected]> Christopher Fouts <[email protected]> [email protected] Cocotte Minute <[email protected]> Craig Steinberger <[email protected]> Craig Upson <[email protected]> [email protected] Cynthia D. McLain <[email protected]> D.C. <[email protected]> Dan Waylonis <[email protected]> Danny Thomas <[email protected]> Dave Cahlander <[email protected]> Dave Donegan <[email protected]> Dave Englund <[email protected]> Dave Foulser <[email protected]> Dave Shreiner <[email protected]> David A Shinberg <[email protected]> David Haight <[email protected]> David Holt <[email protected]> David Ofelt <[email protected]> David Reuteler <[email protected]> David Stewart <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Demetri Terzopoulos <[email protected]> Deyang Song <[email protected]> Dick Jackson <[email protected]> dixons [email protected]> [email protected] Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University <[email protected]> Dr. John S. Eickemeyer <[email protected]> Dr. Michael M. Cohen <[email protected]> Drew R Whitehouse <[email protected]> Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <[email protected]> Gary Oberbrunner <[email protected]> George Elkins <[email protected]> George Vanecek Jr. <[email protected]> Gianni Mariani <[email protected]> Gitta Domik <[email protected]> glenn p. forney <[email protected]> Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Gordon Erlebacher <[email protected]> [email protected] Greg Fairbrother <[email protected]> [email protected] Gus Williams <[email protected]> Hans feil <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Heiko Schlichting <[email protected]> Helen Salter <[email protected]> Henrik Klagges <[email protected]> highnam <[email protected]> Holly_Rushmeier <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Ingela Nordhage <[email protected]> Ion Barosan <[email protected]> [email protected] Jacqueline Dousson <[email protected]> James J. Mcleod <[email protected]> James Peters <[email protected]> Jay Long <[email protected]> Jean M. Favre <[email protected]> Jeff Allston <[email protected]> Jeff Hanson <[email protected]> Jeffrey A. Thingvold <[email protected]> Jerry Swearingen <[email protected]> Jim Chen <[email protected]> Jim Johnson <[email protected]> Jim Salem <[email protected]> [email protected] Jim_Sims_x2710 <[email protected]> Joe Biegel <[email protected]> Joe Brust <[email protected]> Joel Neisen <[email protected]> John D. McCalpin <[email protected]> John Gregor <[email protected]> John Hagedorn <[email protected]> John Hwa <[email protected]> John M. Troyer <[email protected]> John Martin <[email protected]> John R. Chawner <[email protected]> John Rupley <[email protected]> John Schmidt <[email protected]> John Wilson <[email protected]> Karl Geppert <[email protected]> Karl Henrik Eggestad <[email protected]> Karl Washburn <[email protected]> Kathy Carusone  <[email protected]> [email protected] Kerry C. Hilldrup <[email protected]> Kevin Russo <[email protected]> Kian-Tat Lim <[email protected]> [email protected] Larry Coffin <[email protected]> Larry Schuette <[email protected]> Lawrence Mark Lifshitz <[email protected]> Lee Davis <[email protected]> Len Zaifman <[email protected]> Leo Blume <[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert Lipman) Loki Jorgenson <[email protected]> Magnus Bergman <[email protected]> Malcolm Davis <[email protected]> Malcolm W. Ice <[email protected]> Man Wei Tam <[email protected]> Manuel Gamito <[email protected]> Marc Andreessen <[email protected]> Mark Bartelt <[email protected]> Mark Solsman <[email protected]> Martin Knoblauch <[email protected]> Marty Marra <[email protected]> Marvin Landis <[email protected]> Matthew White <[email protected]> [email protected] Michael Bobak <[email protected]> Naci Dai <[email protected]> [email protected] Nils Thune <[email protected]> [email protected] Olof Runborg <[email protected]> Patrick J. Flynn <[email protected]> [email protected] Paul Jensen <[email protected]> Paul Smith <[email protected]> [email protected] Pierre MARTEL <[email protected]> R. AJAY KUMAR <[email protected]> Raul Essig <[email protected]> Richard H. Miller <[email protected]> Rick Speer <[email protected]> Rob MacLeod <[email protected]> Robert DeMillo  <[email protected]> Robert E. Minsk <[email protected]> Robert Hallowell <[email protected]> Robert Skinner <[email protected]> Roger Crawfis <[email protected]> Roland Schweitzer <[email protected]> [email protected] Ruth White <[email protected]> Scott Bolte <[email protected]> Scott Draves <[email protected]> seppo < (Seppo_Jarimo)seppo%[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Stefan Farestam <[email protected]> Stephen Bohus <[email protected]> Stephen Schraml (TBD|BDB) <[email protected]> Steve Couturie <[email protected]> Steve Larkin <[email protected]> Steve Olson  <[email protected]> Steve Rogers <[email protected]> Steve Rooke <[email protected]> Steve Van Gorder <[email protected]> Steven Anderson <[email protected]> Steven H. Izen <[email protected]> T. Todd Elvins <[email protected]> Thomas C. Palmer <[email protected]> Tim Monks <[email protected]> [email protected] U. Lang <[email protected]> Vincent A. Frouhar <[email protected]> Vincent LE BARAZER <[email protected]> Vivien Hannon, UCIS <[email protected]> Wayne A. Vieira <[email protected]> Wayne Podaima <[email protected]> westenberg g. <[email protected]> william e lorensen <[email protected]> William J. Bouma <[email protected]> Wizard of OZ <[email protected]> [email protected] /usr/spool/mail/young <[email protected]> --  e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: [email protected]     oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'  From [email protected] Wed Jun  3 09:54:10 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2396 news.groups:52038 comp.graphics.visualization:1972 comp.sys.sgi:22012 comp.graphics:27565 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.graphics.explorer Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1992 19:33:02 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 402         oOo 3rd Call For Votes (CFV) - comp.graphics.explorer oOo                     + Vote ACK - 31st May 1992        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  This is the 3rd and final call for votes (CFV) for the formation of the group                     comp.graphics.explorer                          Unmoderated    Discussing the Explorer Modular Visualisation Environment (MVE)                                         Vote Taker : Gordon Cameron                    [email protected]                    (see How to Vote below)           Voting Period ENDS at midnight (GMT) on 4th June  A list of voters registered so far (31st May 1992) appears at the end                         of this message                          oOo   oOo   oOo Group Charter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by Silicon Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, exisiting code can be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently is available on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on other platforms in time.   Hopefully the group should serve as an open forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related, in much the same way as comp.graphics.avs and comp.soft-sys.khoros work for those products. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself. Questions can be answered, and opinions heard by those working on future versions of the software.                          oOo   oOo   oOo How To Vote ~~~~~~~~~~~ To Vote, please send a message to [email protected], with either the word YES or the word NO in the Subject: of your message (the word YES/NO must be in capitals). No body of text is required, and you need not qualify your decision. Only one vote per person is allowed, and in the case of multiple votes being received from the same individual, only the last one will be registered.  Example of how to vote ----------------------  	To: [email protected]  	Subject : I vote YES to comp.graphics.explorer or,	Subject : I vote NO to comp.graphics.explorer  Only unambiguous votes will be accepted, so things like `I would vote yes if ....' will not count. Also, votes not received by direct email by myself will not be registered (e.g. votes posted to the NET do not count). The vote taking will last from 7th May 1992 through to midnight on the 4th June 1992. Any votes received after this period will be ignored.                          oOo   oOo   oOo  What Happens Next ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At the completion of the voting period, I will post the vote tally and the E-mail addresses and (if available) names of the votes received to news.announce.newgroups and any other groups or mailing lists to which the original call for votes was posted. The tally will include a statement of which way each voter voted so that the results can be verified.  After a 5-day waiting period, where the votes are posted and propogated, and any conflicts resolved, and if there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, and if 100 more valid YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of creation, a newgroup control message may be sent out.  If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 percentage is not met, the group should not be created.                            oOo   oOo   oOo Mailing List ~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Explorer mailing list service (which can be joined by mailing [email protected]) is currently active and was formed after initial interest in Explorer - it will be retained regardless, offering a gateway to those without USENET access, and as an alternative to using News.  Comments on this to the request address. The FTP sites (ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov) will remain active.                            oOo   oOo   oOo Why Form a Group ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The last request for discussion (RFD) resulted in the formation of a mailing list, which now has upwards of 300 subscribers. Many of these people have expressed the opinion that attempting to form a group may well be worthwile. In addition, many other non-subscribers may be also interested in the formation of such a group.                            oOo   oOo   oOo  Votes received so far - any queries to [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Aaron Schuman <[email protected]> Al Globus <[email protected]> Alain Massiot <[email protected]> alan dare <[email protected]> Alan Davis <[email protected]> Alan Knight <[email protected]> Alan Peevers <[email protected]> Alex Butler (JRG ra) <[email protected]> Alex Pang <[email protected]> Alex S. Crain <[email protected]> anand kolatkar <[email protected]> Andras Salamon <[email protected]> Andreas Wierse <[email protected]> Andrew J Wilson <[email protected]> Andrew Wyatt <[email protected]> Angelo Mangili <[email protected]> Augustine Lo <[email protected]> Bill E. Eickmeier <[email protected]> Bill Owens <[email protected]> Bill Southworth <[email protected]> Blaise Frederick <[email protected]> Bob Brown <[email protected]> Bob Lewis <[email protected]> Bob Swaffar <[email protected]> Booker Bense <[email protected]> Bradley Moskowitz <[email protected]> Brian Kauffman <[email protected]> Brian Stone <[email protected]> Bryan Reutter <[email protected]> Buck Buchanan <[email protected]> C Thornborrow <[email protected]> Cal Kirchhof <[email protected]> Charles Boesel <[email protected]> Charles Gaumond <[email protected]> Charles Ledogar <[email protected]> Chieh-Cheng J. Yen <[email protected]> Chris Cressy <[email protected]> Chris Galas <[email protected]> Chris Hebert <[email protected]> Chris Lilley <[email protected]> Chris Pennington <[email protected]> Chris Rousculp <[email protected]> Christian REBIFFE _ Pre Sales Manager <[email protected]> Christopher Fouts <[email protected]> [email protected] Cocotte Minute <[email protected]> Coral Bernier <[email protected]> [email protected] Craig Steinberger <[email protected]> Craig Upson <[email protected]> [email protected] Cynthia D. McLain <[email protected]> D.C. <[email protected]> Dan Severance <[email protected]> Dan Waylonis <[email protected]> Daniel Hoffmann <[email protected]> Danny Thomas <[email protected]> Dave Cahlander <[email protected]> Dave Ciemiewicz <[email protected]> Dave Donegan <[email protected]> Dave Englund <[email protected]> Dave Foulser <[email protected]> Dave Kerlick <[email protected]> Dave Shreiner <[email protected]> David A Shinberg <[email protected]> David Haight <[email protected]> David Holt <[email protected]> David M. Senseman <[email protected]> David Ofelt <[email protected]> David Reuteler <[email protected]> David Stewart <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Demetri Terzopoulos <[email protected]> Deyang Song <[email protected]> Dick Jackson <[email protected]> dixons [email protected]> Don Middleton <[email protected]> [email protected] Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University <[email protected]> Dr. John S. Eickemeyer <[email protected]> Dr. Michael M. Cohen <[email protected]> Drew R Whitehouse <[email protected]> Duane F Marble <[email protected]> Emilia Hezari <[email protected]> [email protected] (Erik Peterson) Eric Salberta <[email protected]> Frank C. Christofferson <[email protected]> Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <[email protected]> [email protected] Fredo Sartori <[email protected]> Gary Oberbrunner <[email protected]> [email protected] George Elkins <[email protected]> George Vanecek Jr. <[email protected]> Gianni Mariani <[email protected]> Gitta Domik <[email protected]> glenn p. forney <[email protected]> Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Gordon Erlebacher <[email protected]> [email protected] Greg Chien <[email protected]> Greg Couch <[email protected]> Greg Fairbrother <[email protected]> [email protected] Gus Williams <[email protected]> Hans feil <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Charles D. Hansen) [email protected] Hege <[email protected]> Heiko Schlichting <[email protected]> [email protected] (Vera Heinau) Helen Salter <[email protected]> Henrik Klagges <[email protected]> highnam <[email protected]> Holly_Rushmeier <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] In-Kwon Lee <[email protected]> Ingela Nordhage <[email protected]> Ion Barosan <[email protected]> [email protected] J.-P. Malisse CAMME project <[email protected]> Jacqueline Dousson <[email protected]> James J. Mcleod <[email protected]> James Peters <[email protected]> JANINE <[email protected]> Jay Long <[email protected]> Jean M. Favre <[email protected]> Jeff Allston <[email protected]> Jeff Hanson <[email protected]> Jeffrey A. Thingvold <[email protected]> Jeffrey L. Jones <[email protected]> Jerry Swearingen <[email protected]> Jim Chen <[email protected]> Jim Johnson <[email protected]> Jim Salem <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Jim_Sims_x2710 <[email protected]> Joe Biegel <[email protected]> Joe Brust <[email protected]> Joel Garrett <[email protected]> Joel Neisen <[email protected]> John D. McCalpin <[email protected]> John E. Mendenhall <[email protected]> John G Dobnick <[email protected]> John Gregor <[email protected]> John Hagedorn <[email protected]> John Hwa <[email protected]> John M. Troyer <[email protected]> John Martin <[email protected]> John R. Chawner <[email protected]> John Rupley <[email protected]> John Schmidt <[email protected]> John Wilson <[email protected]> Karl Geppert <[email protected]> Karl Henrik Eggestad <[email protected]> Karl Washburn <[email protected]> Kathy Carusone  <[email protected]> [email protected] Kerry C. Hilldrup <[email protected]> Kevin Russo <[email protected]> Kian-Tat Lim <[email protected]> Killer Bob <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Lanny R. Udey <[email protected]> Larry Coffin <[email protected]> Larry Lidsky <[email protected]> Larry Schuette <[email protected]> Lawrence Mark Lifshitz <[email protected]> Lee Davis <[email protected]> Len Zaifman <[email protected]> Leo Blume <[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert Lipman) Loki Jorgenson <[email protected]> [email protected] Magnus Bergman <[email protected]> Malcolm Davis <[email protected]> Malcolm W. Ice <[email protected]> Man Wei Tam <[email protected]> Manuel Gamito <[email protected]> Manuel Urrutia <[email protected]> Marc Andreessen <[email protected]> Mark Bartelt <[email protected]> Mark D. Freeman <[email protected]> Mark Solsman <[email protected]> Martin Knoblauch <[email protected]> Marty Marra <[email protected]> Marvin Landis <[email protected]> Matthew White <[email protected]> [email protected] Melvino <[email protected]> [email protected] Michael Bobak <[email protected]> Michael Fong <[email protected]> Michael Lewis <[email protected]> mike carson <[email protected]> Naci Dai <[email protected]> Nazneen Billawala <[email protected]> [email protected] Nils Thune <[email protected]> Norm Nithman <[email protected]> [email protected] Olof Runborg <[email protected]> Patrick J. Flynn <[email protected]> [email protected] Paul Jensen <[email protected]> Paul Smith <[email protected]> Paul Sorensen <[email protected]> Pavel Mayer <[email protected]> [email protected] Penny Rheingans <[email protected]> Peter S. Shenkin <[email protected]> Philippe SUIGNARD  <[email protected]> Pierre MARTEL <[email protected]> Po Sum Chung -- ACF <[email protected]> R. AJAY KUMAR <[email protected]> Ralph Milliff <[email protected]> Randall Gallimore <[email protected]> Raul Essig <[email protected]> Richard H. Miller <[email protected]> Rick Speer <[email protected]> Rob MacLeod <[email protected]> Robert Allan Pette <[email protected]> Robert DeMillo  <[email protected]> Robert E. Minsk <[email protected]> Robert Hallowell <[email protected]> Robert Riviere <[email protected]> Robert Skinner <[email protected]> Roger Crawfis <[email protected]> Roland Gordon-Beresford <[email protected]> Roland Schweitzer <[email protected]> [email protected] Ruth White <[email protected]> Scott Bolte <[email protected]> Scott Draves <[email protected]> seppo < (Seppo_Jarimo)seppo%[email protected]> Seth Troxel  <[email protected]> Shannon Maher <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] smant g.a. <[email protected]> Stan Jensen <[email protected]> Stefan Farestam <[email protected]> Stephen Bohus <[email protected]> Stephen Schraml (TBD|BDB) <[email protected]> Steve Couturie <[email protected]> Steve Kim  <[email protected]> Steve Larkin <[email protected]> Steve Olson  <[email protected]> Steve Rogers <[email protected]> Steve Rooke <[email protected]> Steve Van Gorder <[email protected]> Steve Woodyatt <[email protected]> Steven Anderson <[email protected]> Steven H. Izen <[email protected]> Steven Kubica <[email protected]> STOEFFLER Daniel <[email protected]> T. Todd Elvins <[email protected]> Tad Guy <[email protected]> Technocrat  <[email protected]> Thomas C. Palmer <[email protected]> Thomas Richter <[email protected]> Tim Buckner <[email protected]> Tim Monks <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Todd Shutts <[email protected]> Tom Albrecht <[email protected]> Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]> Tony Berke  <[email protected]> U. Lang <[email protected]> Vincent A. Frouhar <[email protected]> Vincent LE BARAZER <[email protected]> Vivien Hannon, UCIS <[email protected]> Wayne A. Vieira <[email protected]> Wayne Podaima <[email protected]> westenberg g. <[email protected]> william e lorensen <[email protected]> William J. Bouma <[email protected]> William Sherman -Visualization <[email protected]> Wizard of OZ <[email protected]> [email protected] /usr/spool/mail/young <[email protected]> --  e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: [email protected]     oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'  From [email protected] Thu Jun 11 14:30:40 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2415 news.groups:52348 comp.sys.sgi:22327 comp.graphics:27757 comp.graphics.visualization:1996 comp.unix.cray:789 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.unix.cray Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Subject: RESULT: comp.graphics.explorer passes 322: 13 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1992 18:31:15 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 398  The vote on the proposal of the creation of the newsgroup :                 comp.graphics.explorer (Unmoderated) closed at 12pm (GMT) on the 4th of June 1992.   oOo Result oOo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  The result is as follows.                  Votes For     322                 Votes Against 13  Since there are greater than 100 more valid YES notes than NO votes, and since the proportion of YES to NO votes is greater than 2/3, the proposal passes the USENET guidelines for creation of a newsgroup.  The next 5 days gives the net a chance to correct any errors in the voter list or voting procedure. If, after this period, there are no serious objections, the group comp.graphics.explorer shall be created.  A full list of voters, indicating which way their votes were cast, is listed at the foot of this message. Thanks to all those who participated in the vote.  oOo The Mailing List oOo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  The explorer mailing list will remain in place, (mainly for the benefit of those without USENET access). Any mail posted to the mailing list will AUTOMATICALLY be forwarded on to the newsgroup comp.graphics.explorer, but the reverse feed will not be performed initially.  What this means is that people can still mail to [email protected], and if they do so, their message will go directly to those still on the mailing list, as well as to the newsgroup. However, messages posted directly to the newsgroup WILL NOT be fed back to the mailing list subscribers (so if you want a reply after posting to the mailing list, be sure to mention that you would like it via e-mail).  (This also means that there is no great rush to unsubscribe from  the list if this is what you wish to do....I won't be processing such requests instantly anyway #:-)  FTP is available as usual from ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk and swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov  Please send any comments you may have to [email protected] or [email protected]  	-Gordon Cameron.   YES votes for comp.graphics.explorer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /usr/spool/mail/young <[email protected]> Aaron Schuman <[email protected]> Al Globus <[email protected]> Alain Massiot <[email protected]> alan dare <[email protected]> Alan Davis <[email protected]> Alan Knight <[email protected]> Alan Peevers <[email protected]> Alex Butler (JRG ra) <[email protected]> Alex Pang <[email protected]> Alex S. Crain <[email protected]> Allan Schaffer <[email protected]> Allen McPherson <[email protected]> anand kolatkar <[email protected]> Andras Salamon <[email protected]> Andreas Wierse <[email protected]> Andrew J Wilson <[email protected]> Andrew Wyatt <[email protected]> Angelo Mangili <[email protected]> Augustine Lo <[email protected]> Bill E. Eickmeier <[email protected]> Bill Southworth <[email protected]> [email protected] Blaise Frederick <[email protected]> Bob Brown <[email protected]> Bob Lewis <[email protected]> Bob Swaffar <[email protected]> Booker Bense <[email protected]> Bradley Moskowitz <[email protected]> Brian Calvert <[email protected]> Brian Kauffman <[email protected]> Brian Stone <[email protected]> Bruce Dupee NCS Site Manager <[email protected]> Bryan Reutter <[email protected]> Buck Buchanan <[email protected]> C Thornborrow <[email protected]> Charles Boesel <[email protected]> Charles Gaumond <[email protected]> Charles Ledogar <[email protected]> Chieh-Cheng J. Yen <[email protected]> Chris Cressy <[email protected]> Chris Galas <[email protected]> Chris Hebert <[email protected]> Chris Lilley <[email protected]> Chris Pennington <[email protected]> Chris Rousculp <[email protected]> Christian REBIFFE _ Pre Sales Manager <[email protected]> Christopher Fouts <[email protected]> [email protected] Cocotte Minute <[email protected]> Coral Bernier <[email protected]> [email protected] Craig Steinberger <[email protected]> Craig Upson <[email protected]> Cynthia D. McLain <[email protected]> D.C. <[email protected]> Dan Miley <[email protected]> Dan Severance <[email protected]> Dan Waylonis <[email protected]> Daniel Hoffmann <[email protected]> Daniel Morrison <[email protected]> Danny Thomas <[email protected]> Dave Cahlander <[email protected]> Dave Ciemiewicz <[email protected]> Dave Donegan <[email protected]> Dave Englund <[email protected]> Dave Foulser <[email protected]> Dave Kerlick <[email protected]> Dave Shreiner <[email protected]> David A Shinberg <[email protected]> David Boles <[email protected]> David Haight <[email protected]> David Holt <[email protected]> David M. Senseman <[email protected]> David Ofelt <[email protected]> David Reuteler <[email protected]> David Stewart <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Demetri Terzopoulos <[email protected]> Deyang Song <[email protected]> Dick Jackson <[email protected]> Dirk Luesebrink <[email protected]> dixons [email protected]> Don Middleton <[email protected]> Dr Y.M. Engel - The Hebrew University <[email protected]> Dr. John S. Eickemeyer <[email protected]> Dr. Michael M. Cohen <[email protected]> Drew R Whitehouse <[email protected]> Duane F Marble <[email protected]> E. Kirby  5-3524 <[email protected]> Emilia Hezari <[email protected]> [email protected] (Erik Peterson) Eric Salberta <[email protected]> Frank C. Christofferson <[email protected]> Frank Taylor 4278 <[email protected]> Frank Terhaar-Yonkers <[email protected]> [email protected] Fredo Sartori <[email protected]> Gary Oberbrunner <[email protected]> [email protected] George Elkins <[email protected]> George Scott <[email protected]> George Vanecek Jr. <[email protected]> Gianni Mariani <[email protected]> Gitta Domik <[email protected]> Glen Niebur <[email protected]> Glenn Deardorff -- GDP <[email protected]> glenn p. forney <[email protected]> Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Gordon Erlebacher <[email protected]> [email protected] Greg Chien <[email protected]> Greg Couch <[email protected]> Greg Fairbrother <[email protected]> Gus Williams <[email protected]> Hannu Napari <[email protected]> Hans feil <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Charles D. Hansen) [email protected] Hege <[email protected]> Heiko Schlichting <[email protected]> [email protected] (Vera Heinau) Helen Salter <[email protected]> Henrik Klagges <[email protected]> highnam <[email protected]> [email protected] Holly_Rushmeier <[email protected]> [email protected] Ian Clements <[email protected]> [email protected] In-Kwon Lee <[email protected]> Ingela Nordhage <[email protected]> Ion Barosan <[email protected]> [email protected] J.-P. Malisse CAMME project <[email protected]> Jack Rogers <[email protected]> Jacqueline Dousson <[email protected]> James J. Mcleod <[email protected]> James Peters <[email protected]> JANINE <[email protected]> Jay Long <[email protected]> Jean M. Favre <[email protected]> Jeff Allston <[email protected]> Jeff Hanson <[email protected]> Jeffrey A. Thingvold <[email protected]> Jeffrey L. Jones <[email protected]> Jerry Swearingen <[email protected]> Jim Chen <[email protected]> Jim Johnson <[email protected]> Jim Salem <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Jim_Sims_x2710 <[email protected]> Joe Biegel <[email protected]> Joe Brust <[email protected]> Joel Garrett <[email protected]> Joel Neisen <[email protected]> John D. McCalpin <[email protected]> John E. Mendenhall <[email protected]> John G Dobnick <[email protected]> John Gregor <[email protected]> John Hagedorn <[email protected]> John Hwa <[email protected]> John J. Helly <[email protected]> John M. Troyer <[email protected]> John Martin <[email protected]> John R. Chawner <[email protected]> John Rupley <[email protected]> John Schmidt <[email protected]> John Wilson <[email protected]> Juan Meza <[email protected]> K. R. Subramanian <[email protected]> Karl Geppert <[email protected]> Karl Henrik Eggestad <[email protected]> Karl Washburn <[email protected]> Kathy Carusone  <[email protected]> [email protected] Kerry C. Hilldrup <[email protected]> Kevin Russo <[email protected]> Kian-Tat Lim <[email protected]> Killer Bob <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Lanny R. Udey <[email protected]> Larry Coffin <[email protected]> Larry Lidsky <[email protected]> Larry Schuette <[email protected]> Lawrence Mark Lifshitz <[email protected]> Lee Davis <[email protected]> Len Zaifman <[email protected]> Leo Blume <[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert Lipman) Loki Jorgenson <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Magnus Bergman <[email protected]> Malcolm Davis <[email protected]> Malcolm W. Ice <[email protected]> Man Wei Tam <[email protected]> Manuel Gamito <[email protected]> Manuel Urrutia <[email protected]> Marc Andreessen <[email protected]> Marek Behr <[email protected]> Mark Bartelt <[email protected]> Mark D. Freeman <[email protected]> Mark Solsman <[email protected]> Martin Knoblauch <[email protected]> Martin S. Weinhous Ph.D. <[email protected]> Marty Marra <[email protected]> Marvin Landis <[email protected]> Masayuki Matsumoto <[email protected]> Matthew White <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Melvino <[email protected]> [email protected] Michael Bobak <[email protected]> Michael Fong <[email protected]> Michael Lewis <[email protected]> mike carson <[email protected]> Mike Weisenborn <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Naci Dai <[email protected]> Nazneen Billawala <[email protected]> Nils Thune <[email protected]> Norm Nithman <[email protected]> [email protected] Olof Runborg <[email protected]> Paetsch <[email protected]> Patrick J. Flynn <[email protected]> [email protected] Paul Jensen <[email protected]> Paul Smith <[email protected]> Paul Sorensen <[email protected]> Pavel Mayer <[email protected]> [email protected] Penny Rheingans <[email protected]> [email protected] Peter S. Shenkin <[email protected]> Phil Jeffrey <[email protected]> Philip Machanick <[email protected]> Philippe SUIGNARD  <[email protected]> Phillip C. Chen <[email protected]> Pierre MARTEL <[email protected]> Po Sum Chung -- ACF <[email protected]> R. AJAY KUMAR <[email protected]> Ralph Milliff <[email protected]> Randall Gallimore <[email protected]> Raul Essig <[email protected]> Richard Avila <[email protected]> Richard Ottolini <[email protected]> Rick Speer <[email protected]> Rob MacLeod <[email protected]> Robert Allan Pette <[email protected]> Robert DeMillo  <[email protected]> Robert E. Minsk <[email protected]> Robert Hallowell <[email protected]> Robert Keller <[email protected]> Robert Riviere <[email protected]> Robert Skinner <[email protected]> Roger Crawfis <[email protected]> Roland Gordon-Beresford <[email protected]> Roland Schweitzer <[email protected]> Ronald Jacoby <[email protected]> [email protected] Ruth White <[email protected]> Scott Bolte <[email protected]> Scott Draves <[email protected]> seppo < (Seppo_Jarimo)seppo%[email protected]> Seth Troxel  <[email protected]> Shannon Maher <[email protected]> [email protected] smant g.a. <[email protected]> Sridhar Venkataraman <[email protected]> Stan Jensen <[email protected]> Stefan Farestam <[email protected]> Stephen Schraml (TBD|BDB) <[email protected]> Steve Couturie <[email protected]> Steve Kim  <[email protected]> Steve Larkin <[email protected]> Steve Olson  <[email protected]> Steve Rooke <[email protected]> Steve Rooke <[email protected]> Steve Van Gorder <[email protected]> Steve Woodyatt <[email protected]> Steven Anderson <[email protected]> Steven H. Izen <[email protected]> Steven Kubica <[email protected]> STOEFFLER Daniel <[email protected]> Tad Guy <[email protected]> Technocrat  <[email protected]> Thomas C. Palmer <[email protected]> Thomas Richter <[email protected]> Tim Buckner <[email protected]> Tim Monks <[email protected]> [email protected] Todd Shutts <[email protected]> Tom Albrecht <[email protected]> Tom Barton <[email protected]> Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]> Tom Reed <[email protected]> [email protected] Tony Berke  <[email protected]> U. Lang <[email protected]> Vincent A. Frouhar <[email protected]> Vincent LE BARAZER <[email protected]> Vivien Hannon, UCIS <[email protected]> [email protected] Wayne A. Vieira <[email protected]> Wayne Podaima <[email protected]> westenberg g. <[email protected]> william e lorensen <[email protected]> William J. Bouma <[email protected]> William Sherman -Visualization <[email protected]> Wizard of OZ <[email protected]> [email protected]  NO votes for comp.graphics.explorer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Richard H. Miller" <[email protected]> Bill Owens <[email protected]> Cal Kirchhof <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Nicholas Wilt <[email protected]> [email protected] Stephen Bohus <[email protected]> Steve Rogers <[email protected]> T. Todd Elvins <[email protected]> [email protected] --  e|p Gordon Cameron                      |     Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre |     Email: [email protected]     oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo |    'So far so good, so now so what'  From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:44:54 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1826 news.groups:39231 comp.sys.sgi:16835 comp.graphics:21304 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Gordon Cameron <[email protected]> Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.explorer Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1992 04:27:43 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 83 Status: RO X-Status:   Request for Discussion (RFD) ============================  This is an message to discuss the formation of an UNMODERATED group named :  		comp.graphics.explorer  What about the discussion ? =========================== 	This discussion will take place in the group : 		news.groups  If you're interested in taking part, this is the place to post to. If you feel you have any comments, then please try and contribute.  Brief Description of Explorer ============================= 	IRIS Explorer is an application creation system developed by SiliconGraphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write any traditonal code.  IRIS Explorer is provided free of charge to new owners of SGI machines, and it is hoped that the the execution and/or visualisation environment be ported to several machines in the near future.   What will the group discuss ? (i.e. proposed charter)  =====================================================  	Part of the point of this posting is to try and talk over this very question #:-}  	Hopefully the group should serve as a forum for discussion on all matters Explorer-related. It would be also be good if the group could help the users of Explorer by giving them the option to keep in touch with both each other, and the developers of Explorer itself.  Some Issues =========== 	It would be nice to get some discussion going - a few of the possible issues include : 	(1) Is the name comp.graphics.explorer OK ? 		- should it maybe be comp.soft-sys.explorer or 		comp.sys.sgi.explorer ??? 	(2) Is there sufficient interest ?? 	(3) Is there sufficient interest from NON-SGI people ? (related to 		point 1) 	(4) Are SGI people interested in the formation of such a group ? 		- if so, are they interested in contributing, as they do 		admirably with comp.sys.sgi ? 	(5) Should the group be moderated ?  Other Options ============= 	...include the formation of a mailing list as an interim measure. Is there any comment/interest in this ?  ...and finally ============== 	I feel that Explorer constitutes an important tool for scientists and engineers. The user-base has the potential to be vast, and indeed should potentially include ALL SGI customers.   With such a large potential user base, the scope for questions and discussion is enormous, and a USENET group for this purpose I think would be beneficial to users, module writers, and the Explorer developers. This last group could benefit from immediate feedback from the users, and the users in turn could feel that they have somewhere to ask questions, and hopefully increase their productivity.  The mailing list ================ 	If there is any interest in an alternative mailing list, could they please mail the following address : 		[email protected] i.e. NOT my personal mail address #:-}  Any comments would be useful - please not too many flames :) --  e|p Gordon Cameron				Phone:+44 31 650 5024(Rm. 2259) c|c Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre		Email: [email protected]                     oOo The University of Edinburgh oOo