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From [email protected] Thu Sep 17 09:06:10 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2727 news.groups:56632 comp.realtime:2726 comp.robotics:3102 comp.lang.c:56110 comp.sys.m68k:3359 comp.os.os9:3416 comp.os.misc:2910 comp.lang.ada:8796 comp.os.vxworks:832 comp.sys.sun.hardware:4438 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.realtime,comp.robotics,comp.lang.c,comp.sys.m68k,comp.os.os9,comp.os.misc,comp.lang.ada,comp.os.vxworks,comp.sys.sun.hardware Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (David B Stewart) Subject: RFD: comp.sys.vmebus Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1992 00:09:09 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 36  This is a Request For Discussion (RFD) regarding creation of an unmoderated newsgroup for discussing all aspects of computing related to the VMEbus and VMEbus-based systems:      comp.sys.vmebus	   Discussions on hardware and software for VMEbus.   The VMEbus is one of the more popular standards for developing open-architecture applications based on off-the-shelf hardware.  Many hardware components, operating systems, and applications are based on this standard, yet there currently is no USENET group where discussions of this standard, and related items, are appropriate.  The proposal is to create comp.sys.vmebus as a forum for discussing issues related to developing VMEbus-based systems.  This includes discussion on the VMEbus Specification; VMEbus-based hardware, such as CPU boards and I/O devices; secondary buses such as VSB, VXI, and VMX; open-architecture applications based on the VMEbus; and hardware-dependent software, such as device drivers and bus communication protocols.  The group is also available for questions and answers, so that developers of VMEbus-based hardware and software can get feedback or help with any problems they may encounter.  Discussions should not be about hardware-independent software which use the VMEbus, such as the operating system or language being used, as there are other comp.* newsgroups dedicated to those functions.  The discussion on this proposal will take place in news.groups.  Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in creating a newsgroup (cf. <[email protected]>). --  David B. Stewart  - email: <[email protected]>            The Robotics Institute snail mail:       - ECE Dept., Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Current Projects: - Chimera 3.0 Real-Time Operating System 		  - Reconfigurable Sensor-Based Control Systems  From [email protected] Fri Sep 25 12:22:25 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2771 news.groups:56956 comp.realtime:2764 comp.robotics:3164 comp.lang.c:56467 comp.sys.m68k:3384 comp.os.os9:3443 comp.os.misc:2920 comp.lang.ada:8931 comp.os.vxworks:865 comp.sys.sun.hardware:4603 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.realtime,comp.robotics,comp.lang.c,comp.sys.m68k,comp.os.os9,comp.os.misc,comp.lang.ada,comp.os.vxworks,comp.sys.sun.hardware Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (David B Stewart) Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.vmebus Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 13:08:57 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 66  This is the 2nd Request for Discussion (RFD) regarding creation of an unmoderated newsgroup 'comp.sys.vmebus' for discussing all aspects of computing related to the VMEbus and VMEbus-based systems.  So far the following summarizes what has been discussed on news.groups about the proposed creation of comp.sys.vmebus:  1- No objections yet.  Some say this newsgroup is long overdue.  2- Naming the newsgroup 'comp.sys.vme' VS. 'comp.sys.vmebus'.     The shorter name was recommended by one netter, saying that it is a common     abbreviation.  However, not everyone agrees since VMEbus is the official     name, and VME is the name of a mainframe operating system.  Based on this,     I plan on keeping the name 'comp.sys.vmebus' when we have the Call for     Votes (CFV).  3- One person recommends that the charter of the newgroup be expanded to     include other buses related to VMEbus, such as Futurebus+.     Additional discussion on this point is encouraged.    All discussions should take place in news.groups.  The Call for Votes will occur on Oct. 17 at the earliest, according to the USENET rules for creating a new newsgroup.   (cf.  <[email protected]>).  The original Request for Discussion follows:  -------------------------------------------------------------------------  This is a Request for Discussion (RFD) regarding creation of an unmoderated newsgroup for discussing all aspects of computing related to the VMEbus and VMEbus-based systems.  comp.sys.vmebus	   Discussions on hardware & software for VMEbus.   The VMEbus is one of the more popular standards for developing open-architecture applications based on off-the-shelf hardware.  Many hardware components, operating systems, and applications are based on this standard, yet there currently is no USENET group where discussions of this standard, and related items, are appropriate.  The proposal is to create comp.sys.vmebus as a forum for discussing issues related to developing VMEbus-based systems.  This includes discussion on the VMEbus Specification; VMEbus-based hardware, such as CPU boards and I/O devices; secondary buses such as VSB, VXI, and VMX; open-architecture applications based on the VMEbus; and hardware-dependent software, such as device drivers and bus communication protocols.  The group is also available for questions and answers, so that developers of VMEbus-based hardware and software can get feedback or help with any problems they may encounter.  Discussions should not be about hardware-independent software which use the VMEbus, such as the operating system or language being used, as there are other comp.* newsgroups dedicated to those functions.  The discussion on this proposal will take place in news.groups   Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in creating a newsgroup (<[email protected]>). --  David B. Stewart  - email: <[email protected]>            The Robotics Institute snail mail:       - ECE Dept., Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Current Projects: - Chimera 3.0 Real-Time Operating System 		  - Reconfigurable Sensor-Based Control Systems  From [email protected] Thu Oct 15 22:08:57 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2834 news.groups:57848 comp.robotics:3356 comp.realtime:2848 comp.lang.c:57425 comp.unix.wizards:7675 comp.sys.m68k:3486 comp.sys.misc:4086 comp.os.os9:3499 comp.lang.ada:9125 comp.os.vxworks:930 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.robotics,comp.realtime,comp.sys.sun,comp.lang.c,comp.unix.wizards,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.misc,comp.os.os9,comp.lang.ada,comp.os.vxworks Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (David B Stewart) Subject: CFV: comp.arch.bus.vmebus Keywords: VMEbus Followup-To: poster Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:52:07 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Lines: 72  This is a Call for Votes for the creation of a new newsgroup for discussing VMEbus systems and related topics. The specifics of the proposed newsgroup are given below, followed by the voting intructions and rules.       Name:	comp.arch.bus.vmebus      Purpose:    Discussions of hardware and software for VMEbus Systems.      Status:	Unmoderated      Charter:    The newsgroup 'comp.arch.bus.vmebus' is a forum for discussing 		issues related to developing VMEbus-based systems.  This 		includes discussion of VMEbus-based hardware, such as CPU 		boards and I/O devices; the VMEbus specification; any alternate 		or secondary buses supported by the VMEbus International Trade 		Association (VITA) which includes FutureBus+, VSB, VXI, and 		VMX; open-architecture applications based on the VMEbus; and 		hardware-dependent software, such as device drivers and bus 		communication protocols.  The group is also available for 		questions and answers, so that developers of VMEbus-based 		hardware and software can get feedback or help with any 		problems they may encounter.  		Discussions should not be about hardware-independent software 		which use the VMEbus, such as the operating system or language 		being used, as there are other comp.* newsgroups dedicated to 		those functions.   Voting Instructions:      All votes should be sent to <[email protected]>.     Be sure to include the word "vote" in the subject line.      If you want the group 'comp.arch.bus.vmebus' to be created,      include the text:  	"I vote YES for the creation of comp.arch.bus.vmebus."      If you feel the group 'comp.arch.bus.vmebus' should not be created,      include the text:  	"I vote NO for the creation of comp.arch.bus.vmebus."   Voting Rules:      - One vote per person. If you vote more than once, only the *last* of  	those votes will count.  Therefore if you change your mind about 	the vote, you can send a new vote, which invalidates the old vote, 	as long as it is within the voting period.      - Ambiguous votes will be invalidated. 	Ambiguous votes contain neither YES nor NO, or contain both, 	or are conditional, such as "I vote ... if ..."      - Votes posted to any newsgroup will NOT be counted.      - According to the USENET rules, in order for the new group to be created, 	at least 2/3 of the votes must be "YES", and there must be at least 100 	more "YES" votes than "NO" votes.      - For more details on the voting rules being followed, refer to article 	<[email protected]> in news.announce.newgroups.  Voting period:      Votes will be collected for a period beginning when this CFV is approved     for publication in news.announce.newgroups and ending at midnight on     Tuesday November 10, 1992.  Votes received after the expiration of the     voting period will be discarded.  From [email protected] Wed Nov  4 10:19:50 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2898 news.groups:58832 comp.robotics:3527 comp.realtime:2952 comp.sys.sun.hardware:5347 comp.lang.c:58349 comp.unix.wizards:7881 comp.sys.m68k:3556 comp.sys.misc:4233 comp.os.os9:3557 comp.lang.ada:9335 comp.os.vxworks:991 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.robotics,comp.realtime,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.lang.c,comp.unix.wizards,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.misc,comp.os.os9,comp.lang.ada,comp.os.vxworks Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (David B Stewart) Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.arch.bus.vmebus Keywords: VMEbus Followup-To: poster Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:49:16 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Lines: 71  This is the second (and final) Call for Votes for the creation of a new newsgroup for discussing VMEbus systems and related topics. The specifics of the proposed newsgroup are given below, followed by the voting intructions and rules.       Name:	comp.arch.bus.vmebus      Purpose:    Discussions of hardware and software for VMEbus Systems.      Status:	Unmoderated      Charter:    The newsgroup 'comp.arch.bus.vmebus' is a forum for discussing 		issues related to developing VMEbus-based systems.  This 		includes discussion of VMEbus-based hardware, such as CPU 		boards and I/O devices; the VMEbus specification; any alternate 		or secondary buses supported by the VMEbus International Trade 		Association (VITA) which includes FutureBus+, VSB, VXI, and 		VMX; open-architecture applications based on the VMEbus; and 		hardware-dependent software, such as device drivers and bus 		communication protocols.  The group is also available for 		questions and answers, so that developers of VMEbus-based 		hardware and software can get feedback or help with any 		problems they may encounter.  		Discussions should not be about hardware-independent software 		which use the VMEbus, such as the operating system or language 		being used, as there are other comp.* newsgroups dedicated to 		those functions.   Voting Instructions:      All votes should be sent to <[email protected]>.     Be sure to include the word "vote" in the subject line.      If you want the group 'comp.arch.bus.vmebus' to be created,      include the text:  	"I vote YES for the creation of comp.arch.bus.vmebus."      If you feel the group 'comp.arch.bus.vmebus' should not be created,      include the text:  	"I vote NO for the creation of comp.arch.bus.vmebus."   Voting Rules:      - One vote per person. If you vote more than once, only the *last* of  	those votes will count.  Therefore if you change your mind about 	the vote, you can send a new vote, which invalidates the old vote, 	as long as it is within the voting period.      - Ambiguous votes will be invalidated. 	Ambiguous votes contain neither YES nor NO, or contain both, 	or are conditional, such as "I vote ... if ..."      - Votes posted to any newsgroup will NOT be counted.      - According to the USENET rules, in order for the new group to be created, 	at least 2/3 of the votes must be "YES", and there must be at least 100 	more "YES" votes than "NO" votes.      - For more details on the voting rules being followed, refer to article 	<[email protected]> in news.announce.newgroups.  Voting period:      Votes will be collected until Tuesday November 10, 1992.  Votes received     after the expiration of the voting period will be discarded.  From [email protected] Fri Nov 13 07:59:10 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.robotics,comp.realtime,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.wizards,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.misc,comp.os.os9,comp.lang.ada,comp.os.vxworks Path: uunet!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (David B Stewart) Subject: RESULT: comp.arch.bus.vmebus passes 227:19 Keywords: VMEbus Followup-To: news.groups Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:16:08 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 291 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2951 news.groups:60361 comp.robotics:3634 comp.realtime:3001 comp.sys.sun.hardware:5631 comp.unix.wizards:8051 comp.sys.m68k:3609 comp.sys.misc:4269 comp.os.os9:3604 comp.lang.ada:9469 comp.os.vxworks:1029  Below is the result of votes received in the comp.arch.bus.vmebus new group vote as of 00:01 EST  11 November 1992.  Vote Tabulation:  	258 votes received 	 12 simple duplicates reduced to one each  	 19 no 	227 yes 	------------- 	246 total  	227 yes       -  19 no 	------------- 	208 margin  (more than 100 more yes than no!)  	227 / 246 = 0.920 = 92.0%  (more than 2/3 [67%] in favor!)  Having met the declared criteria, it appears that the vote for comp.arch.bus.vmebus has passed.  The list of voters, grouped by how they voted, and sorted by the "From:" line of their email, appears below.  If there are no substantial changes to the recorded votes within the 5 days from the posting of this article, the group creation message will be issued by David Lawrence ([email protected]).  During the vote, 4 ambiguous ballots were received (with no indication of yes or no in the headers or the message.) Simple email informing the voter that the votes could not be counted were sent, and in each case a new valid vote was sent by the voter.  Thanks to everyone who voted, and I look forward to some interesting discussions in the future.  					David B. Stewart 					<[email protected]>   No votes (19) ============================================================= AH Al_ashaab <[email protected]> Charles Shub <[email protected]> Eric J. Olson <[email protected]> [2 votes reduced to 1] Gerry Roston <[email protected]> Jon Lin <[email protected]> Sven M. Heinicke <[email protected]> [2 votes reduced to 1] [email protected] [email protected] (Austin G. Hastings) [email protected] (James Barrett) [email protected] (Joe Brandt)) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Paul Eggert) [email protected] (Ed McGuire) [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury) [email protected] (Mike Park) [email protected] (Murray Nesbitt) [2 votes reduced to 1] [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Mikael Parknert)  Yes Votes (227) ============================================================== [email protected] Anay S. Panvalkar <[email protected]> Andre Somberg <[email protected]> Andy Jackson <[email protected]> Bob Foery <[email protected]> Bob Herlien <[email protected]> [email protected] Brian Carlton <[email protected]> Brian Palmer <[email protected]> Brian e. Batson <[email protected]> Christoph Eck <[email protected]> [email protected] DONALD MACKELLAR <[email protected]> David Lee <[email protected]> [email protected] Denis Poussart <[email protected]> Edgar Perez <[email protected]> Edward McClanahan <[email protected]> Einar Sjaavik <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Florian Wohlgemuth) Glenn Kasten <[email protected]> HOGLE RICHARD A <[email protected]> Henning Pangels <[email protected]> James McIntosh <[email protected]> James Olsen <[email protected]> Jan Ekkel <[email protected]> Jian Huang <[email protected]> Jim Cockrell @ NSI <[email protected]> Joe Weintraub <[email protected]> John Heimbold <[email protected]> John Sauter <[email protected]> John M. Jourdain <[email protected]> Jon Kieffer <[email protected]> Jurriaan Vreeburg <[email protected]> Kai Atle Myrvang <[email protected]> Klaus Rennecke <[email protected]> [email protected] (Larry Anglin) Mark Williams <[email protected]> Mark Wuest [email protected]> Markus Traber <[email protected]> Matthieu Herrb <[email protected]> Meindert Kuipers <[email protected]> Michael M. O'Dorney <[email protected]> Michael Quinn [email protected]> Ninane%[email protected] Oded Ravid <[email protected]> [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] Paul Wilkinson <[email protected]> Paul Qualtrough <[email protected]> Pete Lyall <[email protected]> Phil Kester <[email protected]> Pirawat Watanapongse <[email protected]> [2 'yes' votes reduced to 1] Reidar Strand <[email protected]> Remko van Driel <[email protected]> Rene Leiva <[email protected]> [email protected] Robert J. Docktor <[email protected]> Rolf Dietze <[email protected]> Ron Fox <[email protected]> [email protected] Sean Quinlan <[email protected]> Sinan Karasu <[email protected]> Steve Blachman <[email protected]> Steven King (503) 627-2736 <[email protected]> Stuart Quick <[email protected]> Sundar Kuttalingam <[email protected]> Timothy J Chappell <[email protected]> Venneman John <[email protected]> Vincent Verleun <[email protected]> Vuorimaa Petri Kalevi <[email protected]> Walter E Miller @ NSI <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Alex L. Bangs) [email protected] (Adams) [email protected] [email protected] (Tony Poyner) [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] (barry n nelson) [email protected] (Bob Bieszk) [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] [email protected] (Alan K Biocca) [email protected] (Bruce M. Walker) [email protected] (Dietmar Budelsky) [email protected] (Paul Butler) [email protected] (Carl Lowenstein) [email protected] (Alan Cheilek) [email protected] (Chris Tilt) [email protected] (Christian Lam) [email protected] (Gianni Comoretto) [email protected] (Robert Redfield) [email protected] (Craig Conway) crispen <@ada3.ca.boeing.com:[email protected]> [email protected] (Rodney Cummings) [email protected] (John Curry) [email protected] (Brian Curtiss) [email protected] [email protected] (Carl Kalbfleisch) [email protected] (Bill Sheppard) [email protected] (Daniel R. Kegel) [email protected] (Dave Peterson) dawn%[email protected] (Dawn Stewart) [email protected] (Dave Bruce) [email protected] (harbison) [email protected] (Darrell Call) [email protected] (Dan Ciarlette) [email protected] (David Kocinski) [email protected] (Donald R. Newcomb) [email protected] [email protected] (Peter Dufault) [email protected] (Don Wells) [email protected] (Keith Neufeld) [email protected] (Erik Plesner) [email protected] (Albrecht Ernst) [email protected] (Ed Rolfe) [email protected] (Mike Geipel) [email protected] (Ed Faught) [email protected] (Floyd Miller) [email protected] (Jens Ebert (69-6305-299)) [email protected] (Theresa Babrauckas) [email protected] (john galloway) [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] (Ganesan) [email protected] (Peter Faill) [email protected] [email protected] (Gerd Buntkowsky) [email protected] (Steve Gilbert) [email protected] (Greogry J. Nawrocki) [email protected] (Glen Sescila) [email protected] (Gordon Miller) [email protected] (Gary Rima) [email protected] (Gillian Groves) [email protected] (Gerd Truschinski) [email protected] (Guy Cole) [email protected] (Harry Langenbacher) [email protected] (Ron Heiby) [email protected] (Heidi Frock) [email protected] (Jeff Hill) [email protected] (John Hodapp) [email protected] [email protected] (Mike Jablin) [email protected] (Jaime Edwards) [email protected] (John C. Peden) [email protected] (Joe Finnivan) [email protected] (Jim Horstkotte) [email protected] (John E. Kreznar) [email protected] (James D. Moudy) [email protected] (Joe Smith) [email protected] (Terry A. Jones) jpmott%[email protected] (Jon Mott) [email protected] (John Tillema) jtwp%[email protected] [email protected] (Kathryn Fielding) [email protected] (Douglas Kemp) [email protected] (Kevin Pammett) [email protected] (Graulle Christophe) [email protected] [email protected] (Steve Lewis) [email protected] [email protected] (mark milligan) [email protected] (Kenneth Mtz. (YONIX)) [email protected] (John Lengeling) [email protected] (Mustafa Soysal) [email protected] [email protected] (Mohan J. Kumar) [email protected] (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS) [email protected] (Mike Oliver) [email protected] ("Mr. Mike" Passaretti) [email protected] (Manish S. Vaidya) [email protected] (David Muir Sharnoff) [email protected] (Bill Sheppard) [email protected] (Jeff Myer) [email protected] [email protected] (Norbert Nicolay) [email protected] (G. Pardo-Castellote) [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] (Paul Antoine) [email protected] (Patrick D. Wolf) psm%[email protected] (Scot McIntosh) [email protected] [email protected] (Robert Belshe) [email protected] (Raj Shelke) rice%[email protected] (George Rice) [email protected] (Rick Spanbauer) [email protected] (Sylvain Riendeau 8573) [email protected] (Bob McKenzie) [email protected] (Robert Canik) [email protected] (Bob Robison) [email protected] (Glenn Robnett) [email protected] (Benno Lange) [email protected] (David Ross) [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] [email protected] (ruman) [email protected] (Peter Salerno) [email protected] [email protected] (David Sawey) [email protected] (Seth A. Phillips) [email protected] (Tian Shen) [email protected] [email protected] (Don Slater) [email protected] (Steve M. Blumenau) [email protected] ( Steve Broadstone) [email protected] (Steve Morris) [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Flemming Stassen) [email protected] (Steve Zanoni 5-4325) [email protected] (Struck) [email protected] (Stu Labovitz) [email protected] (Tom Carey) [email protected] (Ted Eggers) [email protected] (Andy Thomson) [email protected] (Richard E. Neitzel) [email protected] (Tony Mountifield) [email protected] (Ted Shannon) [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] (A.Lizard) [email protected] (Joe VanAndel) [email protected] [email protected] ( Volker A. Brandt ) ward horner <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bill Brown) [2 'yes votes reduced to 1] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Don Willey) [email protected] (John R. Winans) [email protected] (Isaac Wong) [email protected] [email protected] (Bill McDowell) [email protected] (Dave Wybo) [email protected] (yoshio nakamura) [email protected] (Yves Boudreault)