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From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 21:56:07 1992
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From: [email protected] (Life...)
Subject: RFD:  comp.bbs.misc
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Request For Discussion (RFD): comp.bbs.misc

Status: unmoderated

This is an official Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
Usenet newsgroup to take the role currently held by alt.bbs.

Charter:

Comp.bbs.misc is for discussion of all aspects of Bulletin Board Systems
(BBSs).  Topics would include those current discussed in alt.bbs, .ads,
.allsysop, .cnet, .internet, .lists, and .lists.d.  Topics related to
specific BBS software are not included, and can be discussed in their
corresponding comp.sys.* group or form a subgroup of comp.bbs (like
comp.bbs.waffle is attempting at this time).

Discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  As per the
Guidelines, discussion that occurs there is the only discussion that
counts.  If your site does not carry news.groups, and you are interested
in this discussion, get your administrator to carry the group.

Currently there is a proposal to move alt.bbs.waffle to comp.bbs.waffle.
It is a seperate proposal from this one, but the course of that vote may
affect this proposal.  If the group fails, I'd be willing to amend the
charter to allow for discussion of BBS software that runs on different
platforms, thus allowing comp.bbs.waffle discussion.
-- 
  ///   ____   \\\       |"Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
  | |/ /    \ \| |       | breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
   \\_|\____/|_//        | know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
       \_)\\/            | Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
gberigan `-' cse.unl.edu | Life... don't talk to me about life...."

From [email protected] Mon Apr 27 14:08:16 1992
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From: [email protected] (Life...)
Subject: 2nd RFD:  comp.bbs.misc
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2nd Request For Discussion (RFD): comp.bbs.misc

Status: unmoderated

This is a repost of the Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of
a Usenet newsgroup to take the role currently held by alt.bbs.

Charter:

Comp.bbs.misc is for discussion of all aspects of Bulletin Board Systems
(BBSs).  Topics would include those current discussed in alt.bbs, .ads,
.allsysop, .internet, .lists, and .lists.d.  Topics related to specific
BBS software are not included, and can be discussed in their correspond-
ing comp.sys.* group or form a subgroup of comp.bbs (like comp.bbs.-
waffle).  If the software is platform independent, it can be discussed
in comp.bbs.misc.

Discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  As per the
Guidelines, discussion that occurs there is the only discussion that
counts.  If your site does not carry news.groups, and you are interested
in this discussion, get your administrator to carry the group.

comp.bbs.waffle has now successfully passed the voting procedure, and
will shortly be created.  Thus the door has been closed on the discussion
of specific BBS software in comp.bbs.misc.  Said discussion should take
part in either the relevent comp.sys.* group, or create its own
comp.bbs.* group.  Thus, the suggestion of merging alt.bbs.cnet into
comp.bbs.misc has been dropped, unless it is a platform indepenent piece
of software.

There has been discussion opposed to the merging of the .ads, .lists,
and .lists.d groups into comp.bbs.misc, on the grounds that they would
reduce the quality of posts in comp.bbs.misc below the current alt.bbs
group's quality.  If there is enough interest in creating a moderated
comp.bbs.lists group and unmoderated .d companion group, to handle both
ads and lists, I will consider adding them to this proposal as ballot
elements.  I may be willing to act as moderator, but I might not be
able.  Depends on the administration here.  Lack of discussion on this
subtopic will be taken as disapproval of creation of subgroups and
approval of their absorption.

The first RFD was posted on Monday, April 13th, 1992.
The CFV is tentatively proposed for posting on Wednesday, May 13th, 1992.
-- 
  ///   ____   \\\       |"Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
  | |/ /    \ \| |       | breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
   \\_|\____/|_//        | know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
       \_)\\/            | Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
gberigan `-' cse.unl.edu | Life... don't talk to me about life...."

From [email protected] Tue May 12 11:08:47 1992
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From: [email protected] (Life...)
Subject: 2nd RFD:  comp.bbs.misc
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2nd Request For Discussion (RFD): comp.bbs.misc

Status: unmoderated

This is a repost of the Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of
a Usenet newsgroup to take the role currently held by alt.bbs.

Charter:

Comp.bbs.misc is for discussion of all aspects of Bulletin Board Systems
(BBSs).  Topics would include those currently discussed in alt.bbs, .ads,
.allsysop, .internet, .lists, and .lists.d.  Topics related to specific
BBS software are not included, and can be discussed in their correspond-
ing comp.sys.* group or form a subgroup of comp.bbs (like comp.bbs.-
waffle).  If the software is platform independent, it can be discussed
in comp.bbs.misc.  Future comp.bbs.* groups' charters will take priority
over this one.

Discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  As per the
Guidelines, discussion that occurs there is the only discussion that
counts.  If your site does not carry news.groups, and you are interested
in this discussion, get your administrator to carry the group.

There has been discussion opposed to the merging of the .ads, .lists,
and .lists.d groups into comp.bbs.misc, on the grounds that they would
reduce the quality of posts in comp.bbs.misc below the current alt.bbs
group's quality.  However, after checking the Guidelines as to proposals
for moderated newsgroups, as explicitly written it would require we push
this proposal for another 21 to 31 days while the extra group of
comp.bbs.lists be worked out.

It is quite likely that comp.bbs.lists will be created later.  Indeed,
at about 1 week into the CFV of this proposal, I will start the
RFD for comp.bbs.lists.  The current thought is that .misc be used for
discussion of .lists, rather than forming a .d group.  However, both
groups will be put forward in the RFD to avoid adding groups and
extending the time.

The first RFD was posted on Monday, April 13th, 1992.
The CFV will be posted on Wednesday, May 13th, 1992.
-- 
  ///   ____   \\\       |"Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
  | |/ /    \ \| |       | breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
   \\_|\____/|_//        | know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
       \_)\\/            | Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
gberigan `-' cse.unl.edu | Life... don't talk to me about life...."

From [email protected] Thu May 14 12:37:33 1992
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From: [email protected] (Life...)
Subject: CFV:  comp.bbs.misc
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Call For Votes (CFV): comp.bbs.misc

Status: unmoderated

This is an official Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of a Usenet
newsgroup to take the role currently held by alt.bbs, under the
following charter.

Charter:

Comp.bbs.misc is for discussion of all aspects of Bulletin Board Systems
(BBSs).  Topics would include those currently discussed in alt.bbs, .ads,
.allsysop, .internet, .lists, and .lists.d.  Topics related to specific
BBS software are not included, and can be discussed in their correspond-
ing comp.sys.* group or form a subgroup of comp.bbs (like comp.bbs.-
waffle).  If the software is platform independent, it can be discussed
in comp.bbs.misc.  Future comp.bbs.* groups' charters will take priority
over this one.

Voting:

All votes must be emailed to the address [email protected], and must
be of a simple and unambiguous form.  Ideally, votes should contain one
of the following lines in their subject and body:

I vote YES for the group comp.bbs.misc as proposed.
I vote NO for the group comp.bbs.misc as proposed.

An email vote ack will be sent for every vote, accepted or not, upon
receipt.  If you have sent a vote and have not recieved an ack, it may
be that I could not reach your address, or that the vote did not arrive.
Check the periodic Mass Ack posts for your address.  If you don't find
your name, it is likely that your vote was not received or was ambiguous.
In such cases, you should resend your vote in a non-ambiguous form.

This CFV will last for the standard duration, which ends 31 days after
this post appears in news.announce.newgroups.  This will be June 14th, 1992.
Posts received after the end of June 14th, 1992, as measured by the
system clock of cse.unl.edu, will be rejected.

In the case of more than one vote arriving from the same address, before
the vote has terminated, the ballot with the latest "Date:" will be
counted, and the other(s) rejected.
-- 
  ///   ____   \\\       |"Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
  | |/ /    \ \| |       | breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
   \\_|\____/|_//        | know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
       \_)\\/            | Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
gberigan `-' cse.unl.edu | Life... don't talk to me about life...."

From [email protected] Sat May 23 13:05:55 1992
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From: [email protected] (Life...)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.bbs.misc
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2nd Call For Votes (CFV): comp.bbs.misc

Status: unmoderated

This is an official repost of the Call For Votes (CFV), with Mass
Acknowledgement, for the creation of a Usenet newsgroup to take the role
currently held by alt.bbs, under the following charter.

Charter:

Comp.bbs.misc is for discussion of all aspects of Bulletin Board Systems
(BBSs).  Topics would include those currently discussed in alt.bbs, .ads,
.allsysop, .internet, .lists, and .lists.d.  Topics related to specific
BBS software are not included, and can be discussed in their correspond-
ing comp.sys.* group or form a subgroup of comp.bbs (like comp.bbs.-
waffle).  If the software is platform independent, it can be discussed
in comp.bbs.misc.  Future comp.bbs.* groups' charters will take priority
over this one.

Voting:

All votes must be emailed to the address [email protected], and must
be of a simple and unambiguous form.  Ideally, votes should contain one
of the following lines in their subject and body:

I vote YES for the group comp.bbs.misc as proposed.
I vote NO for the group comp.bbs.misc as proposed.

An email vote ack will be sent for every vote, accepted or not, upon
receipt.  If you have sent a vote and have not recieved an ack, it may
be that I could not reach your address, or that the vote did not arrive.
Check the periodic Mass Ack posts for your address.  If you don't find
your name, it is likely that your vote was not received or was ambiguous.
In such cases, you should resend your vote in a non-ambiguous form.

This CFV will expire at the end of June 14th, 1992.  Votes received
after that time, as measured by the system clock of cse.unl.edu, will be
rejected.

In the case of more than one vote arriving from the same address, before
the vote has terminated, the ballot with the latest "Date:" will be
counted, and the other(s) rejected.

MASS ACK:

The following is the list of recorded votes for this proposal.  If your
vote is not present, then it either did not arrive, or was ambiguous,
and you should attempt to resend your vote.  If anyone spots any
duplicates in this list, please contact me.

82 addresses follow...

"Eric L. Thav" <[email protected]>
"Hardcore Alaskan" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Stephen Cristol)
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
Alan Coopersmith <[email protected]>
Andy Malis <[email protected]>
Cedric Didier Baechler <[email protected]>
Christophe Wolfhugel <[email protected]>
Collin Forbes <[email protected]>
Dave Ratcliffe <psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!eds1!compnect!frackit!dave>
David DeBry <[email protected]>
David Desko <[email protected]>
ELISHA FARA LANDMAN <[email protected]>
James Ault <[email protected]>
Jamie Gritton <[email protected]>
Jarno Kokko <[email protected]>
Jeff Suttor <[email protected]>
Jon Thackray <[email protected]>
Marlboro Sherbet <[email protected]>
Michael R Linksvayer <[email protected]>
Roland Kaltefleiter <[email protected]>
Sean Petty <[email protected]>
Tim Hagman (lbs) <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Andrew McMillan)
[email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt)
[email protected] (Stephanie da Silva)
[email protected] (Austin G. Hastings)
[email protected] (Andrew Kroll)
biwi <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Ruth White)
[email protected] (The Squire, Phish)
[email protected] (Chris Galas)
[email protected] (Chuyen L. Tran)
[email protected] (Skip Watson)
clout.chi.il.us!balr!vpnet!vpnet!chaz
[email protected] (Cristiano Verondini)
[email protected]
[email protected] (David Stodolsky)
[email protected]
duke.cs.duke.edu!wolves!news (The Wolfe of the Den)
[email protected] (Edward Bertsch)
[email protected] (Ismo Peltonen)
[email protected] (John F. Snyder)
ersys.edmonton.ab.ca!ersys!alpha3!russell (Russell Schulz)
[email protected] (Steve Frampton)
[email protected] (Aaron Ross Priven)
[email protected] (B. Gabriel Helou)
gberigan (Greg Berigan)
grayhawk.rent.com!iowegia!kevin (Kevin Houle)
harvard.harvard.edu!scubed!cruiser!bdl (Bob Lombard)
[email protected] (Jon Vander Hill)
[email protected]
m2xenix!pacifier!lrisys!lrimark!mark
[email protected] (Mark E Daniel)
[email protected] (Mark H. Anbinder)
[email protected] (Mike Batchelor)
[email protected] (Mike Shirley)
[email protected] (Norman C. Lee)
[email protected] (Bob Peterson)
[email protected] (P.J. Boulay )
[email protected] (Joel Plutchak)
[email protected] (Jeffrey  Porten)
[email protected] (Ralph Sims)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
[email protected] (Roger Parks)
[email protected] (Bob Kirkpatrick)
[email protected] (R. P. White)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Scott Stevens)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Tony DeBari)
[email protected] (Timo Salmi)
[email protected] (Real life?  Ha!)
uunet.UU.NET!decwrl!change!ross (Ross Miller   )
uunet.UU.NET!sessun!orth (John Orth)
uunet.UU.NET!smania!kbrown (Kevin W. Brown)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Glee Willis)
-- 
  ///   ____   \\\       |"Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
  | |/ /    \ \| |       | breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
   \\_|\____/|_//        | know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
       \_)\\/            | Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
gberigan `-' cse.unl.edu | Life... don't talk to me about life...."

From [email protected] Wed Jun  3 09:54:02 1992
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From: [email protected] (Life...)
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.bbs.misc
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3rd Call For Votes (CFV): comp.bbs.misc

Status: unmoderated

This is an official repost of the Call For Votes (CFV), with Mass
Acknowledgement, for the creation of a Usenet newsgroup to take the role
currently held by alt.bbs, under the following charter.

Charter:

Comp.bbs.misc is for discussion of all aspects of Bulletin Board Systems
(BBSs).  Topics would include those currently discussed in alt.bbs, .ads,
.allsysop, .internet, .lists, and .lists.d.  Topics related to specific
BBS software are not included, and can be discussed in their correspond-
ing comp.sys.* group or form a subgroup of comp.bbs (like comp.bbs.-
waffle).  If the software is platform independent, it can be discussed
in comp.bbs.misc.  Future comp.bbs.* groups' charters will take priority
over this one.

Voting:

All votes must be emailed to the address gberigan@cse.unl.edu, and must
be of a simple and unambiguous form.  Ideally, votes should contain one
of the following lines in their subject and body:

I vote YES for the group comp.bbs.misc as proposed.
I vote NO for the group comp.bbs.misc as proposed.

An email vote ack will be sent for every vote, accepted or not, upon
receipt.  If you have sent a vote and have not recieved an ack, it may
be that I could not reach your address, or that the vote did not arrive.
Check the periodic Mass Ack posts for your address.  If you don't find
your name, it is likely that your vote was not received or was ambiguous.
In such cases, you should resend your vote in a non-ambiguous form.

This CFV will expire at the end of June 14th, 1992.  Votes received
after that time, as measured by the system clock of cse.unl.edu, will be
rejected.

In the case of more than one vote arriving from the same address, before
the vote has terminated, the ballot with the latest "Date:" will be
counted, and the other(s) rejected.

MASS ACK:

The following is the list of recorded votes for this proposal.  If your
vote is not present, then it either did not arrive, or was ambiguous,
and you should attempt to resend your vote.  If anyone spots any
duplicates in this list, please contact me.

137 votes follow...

"Eric L. Thav" <eric@sol.cse.fau.edu>
"Hardcore Alaskan" <FSSPR%ALASKA.ACAD3A.mrouter@acad3.alaska.edu>
"Michael Studte" <michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au>
"Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
"Stu Labovitz" <stu@valinor.mythical.com>
701steph@dwarf.epibio.emory.edu (Stephen Cristol)
<dkyburz@techdata.com>
<mad@merit.edu>
Alan Coopersmith <alanc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Amir Plivatsky <amir@discus.technion.ac.il>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Cedric Didier Baechler <cbaechle@iiic.ethz.ch>
Christophe Wolfhugel <Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr>
Collin Forbes <min@cardboard.mocw.id.us>
Dave Ratcliffe <psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!eds1!compnect!frackit!dave>
David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
David Desko <daviddes@twg.com>
ELISHA FARA LANDMAN <ST911117@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>
Eric Peterson <epeterso@encore.com>
James Ault <aultj@rpi.edu>
Jamie Gritton <gritton@alaska.caedm.byu.edu>
Jarno Kokko <jarnis@mdata.fi>
Jeff Gostin <jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us>
Jeff Suttor <jsuttor@world.std.com>
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Jon Thackray <jrmt@ukc.ac.uk>
MSgt Robert Harris <rharris@hq.af.mil>
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
Mark AuBuchon <mya@tsoft.sf-bay.org>
Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Purcell)
Marlboro Sherbet <atman@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Michael R Linksvayer <mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
R Batt <rbatt@adam.adelaide.edu.au>
Rick Ellis <rick@ofa123.fidonet.org>
Roland Kaltefleiter <kaltef@theo-physik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
Scott J. Kramer <sjk@aura.nbn.com> (())
Sean Petty <seanp@undr.org>
StarWatcher@uiuc.edu (StarWatcher)
Tim Becker <becker@cs.rochester.edu>
Tim Hagman (lbs) <hagman@crs.cl.msu.edu>
Timothy VanFosson <timv@ccad.uiowa.edu>
Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
Tony Wilson <wilson@stc.nato.int>
UB.com!grafex!steveh (Steve Harding)
ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
andrew@folly.welly.gen.nz (Andrew McMillan)
andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
austin@franklin.com (Austin G. Hastings)
biga@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Kroll)
biwi <buc29@iis.ethz.ch>
bk@kullmar.kullmar.se (Bo Kullmar)
bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
bn244@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth White)
cambler@nike.calpoly.edu (The Squire, Phish)
ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Jacobson)
chuyen@ron6522.dloslv.xerox.com (Chuyen L. Tran)
ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson)
clout.chi.il.us!balr!vpnet!vpnet!chaz
cverond@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it (Cristiano Verondini)
danj1@ihspa.att.com
david@ruc.dk (David Stodolsky)
dduff@infopls.chi.il.us (Dennis Duffner)
dec@lazarus.nrtc.northrop.com
doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
duke.cs.duke.edu!wolves!news (The Wolfe of the Den)
eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
elandal@unidex.pp.fi (Ismo Peltonen)
elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov!abode!gallery!sysop
eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
ersys.edmonton.ab.ca!ersys!alpha3!russell (Russell Schulz)
esorkin@cellar.org
fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
fred@cdin-1.compu.com
fuzzface@cats.UCSC.EDU (Aaron Ross Priven)
gabe@angus.mi.org (B. Gabriel Helou)
gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
ggjns@knuth.mtsu.edu (John N Schmidt)
gordon@eddy.pinetree.org (Gordon Dewis)
grayhawk.rent.com!iowegia!kevin (Kevin Houle)
harvard.harvard.edu!scubed!cruiser!bdl (Bob Lombard)
jcv26@cas.org (Jon Vander Hill)
jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu
jonc@status.gen.nz
karlf@bearsw.com (Karl F. Finkemeyer)
kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (Happy Happy Joy Joy)
lunatic@fringe.rain.com (Dean Woodward)
m2xenix!pacifier!lrisys!lrimark!mark
mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
matwood%peruvian@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
mha@memory.ithaca.ny.us (Mark H. Anbinder)
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU
mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Mike Batchelor)
mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
norman@SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Norman C. Lee)
pac@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu
parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom James Parry)
peora.sdc.ccur.com!bilver!vicstoy!aphelps (Austin Phelps)
peterson@ZGNews.LoneStar.Org (Bob Peterson)
pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (P.J. Boulay )
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
porten@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey  Porten)
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au
richardc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Richard Commander)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld)
rogerp@amgen.com (Roger Parks)
root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (R. P. White)
scott@cellar.org
scott@truevision.com (Scott Stevens)
sorcerer@leland.Stanford.EDU
srandolp@uceng.uc.edu (Shiri Randolph)
tdboyce@cco.caltech.edu
tflamand@minman.almanac.bc.ca
tjbarre@srv.PacBell.COM (Tom Barrett)
tkoppel@carl.org (Ted Koppel)
toad@cellar.org
tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari)
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life?  Ha!)
tyrone@acme.gen.nz (A Real Nice User)
ulowell.ulowell.edu!pilgrim!walsh (John P. Walsh)
uu.psi.com!wisper!sherman (Peter Sherman)
uunet.UU.NET!decwrl!change!ross (Ross Miller   )
uunet.UU.NET!sdc!norm (Norm Nithman)
uunet.UU.NET!sessun!orth (John Orth)
uunet.UU.NET!smania!kbrown (Kevin W. Brown)
uunet.UU.NET!teamate!bob ()
walterb@sequoia.cray.com
weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
willis@equinox.unr.edu (Glee Willis)
zeta@yngbld.gwinnett.COM (Gregory S. Youngblood)
-- 
  ///   ____   \\\       |"Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
  | |/ /    \ \| |       | breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
   \\_|\____/|_//        | know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
       \_)\\/            | Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
gberigan `-' cse.unl.edu | Life... don't talk to me about life...."

From gberigan@cse.unl.edu Fri Jun 19 13:27:59 1992
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From: gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
Subject: RESULT: comp.bbs.misc passes 150: 24
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The voting period for newsgroup comp.bbs.misc has ended.  No further
votes will be accepted regarding this newsgroup.

At the close of the polling address on June 15, 1992 at 00:00 CDT, the
results are:

        Total YES votes:  150
        Total NO  votes:   24

These results pass both the 100 YES-NO and 2/3 majority YES requirements
as outlined by the Guidelines for a newsgroup.  A list of voters and the
way they voted appears at the end of this posting.  There will now be a
5 day period while the results are given for public perusal before the
newgroup message is sent out for the group as described below.

Status: unmoderated

Charter:

Comp.bbs.misc is for discussion of all aspects of Bulletin Board Systems
(BBSs).  Topics would include those currently discussed in alt.bbs, .ads,
.allsysop, .internet, .lists, and .lists.d.  Topics related to specific
BBS software are not included, and can be discussed in their correspond-
ing comp.sys.* group or form a subgroup of comp.bbs (like comp.bbs.-
waffle).  If the software is platform independent, it can be discussed
in comp.bbs.misc.  Future comp.bbs.* groups' charters will take priority
over this one.

As it is useless to attempt to rmgroup ay alt.* newsgroup, no rmgroup
message will be sent out for the alt newsgroups whose topics have been
relocated to the comp.bbs.misc group, although posting to these groups
is not recommended.

Complete texts of each vote listed below are available during the 5 days
of post-discussion.

174 votes (150 YES, 24 NO) follow, "sort"ed:

NO:

701steph@dwarf.epibio.emory.edu (Stephen Cristol)
<mad@merit.edu>
Christophe Wolfhugel <Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr>
ELISHA FARA LANDMAN <ST911117@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
Mark AuBuchon <mya@tsoft.sf-bay.org>
Scott Mash <smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>
Scott Sanbeg <ssanbeg@visual.spk.wa.us>
Tim Becker <becker@cs.rochester.edu>
Timothy VanFosson <timv@ccad.uiowa.edu>
elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov!abode!gallery!sysop
eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
gordon@eddy.pinetree.org (Gordon Dewis)
jhood@banana.ithaca.ny.us (John Hood)
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU
peora.sdc.ccur.com!bilver!vicstoy!aphelps (Austin Phelps)
pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (P.J. Boulay )
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
root@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
tjbarre@srv.PacBell.COM (Tom Barrett)
tkoppel@carl.org (Ted Koppel)

YES:

"Allen L. Spruill" <ASPRUIL1@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
"Eric L. Thav" <eric@sol.cse.fau.edu>
"Hardcore Alaskan" <FSSPR%ALASKA.ACAD3A.mrouter@acad3.alaska.edu>
"Michael Studte" <michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au>
"Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
"Stu Labovitz" <stu@valinor.mythical.com>
"The Bored One." <jtn@ukc.ac.uk>
<dkyburz@techdata.com>
Alan Coopersmith <alanc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Amir Plivatsky <amir@discus.technion.ac.il>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Bob.Batson@p0.f322.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Batson)
Cedric Didier Baechler <cbaechle@iiic.ethz.ch>
Chad Lundgren <lundgren@vesta.unm.edu>
Collin Forbes <min@cardboard.mocw.id.us>
Dave Ratcliffe <psuvax1.cs.psu.edu!eds1!compnect!frackit!dave>
David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
David Desko <daviddes@twg.com>
Eric Peterson <epeterso@encore.com>
Erik.Jacobson@tdkt.kksys.com (Erik Jacobson)
Fred.Lloyd@West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
James Ault <aultj@rpi.edu>
Jamie Gritton <gritton@alaska.caedm.byu.edu>
Jarno Kokko <jarnis@mdata.fi>
Jay Troy <udel.edu!dvss!jtroy>
Jeff Gostin <jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us>
Jeff Suttor <jsuttor@world.std.com>
John Romine <jromine@yoyodyne.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Jon Thackray <jrmt@ukc.ac.uk>
Jyrki Kuoppala <jkp@cs.hut.fi>
Laurence Palter <lhpalter@nexus.yorku.ca>
MSgt Robert Harris <rharris@hq.af.mil>
Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Purcell)
Marlboro Sherbet <atman@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Matt Hucke <hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Michael R Linksvayer <mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Noska Werner <K3022E8@EDVZ.UNI-Linz.AC.AT>
R Batt <rbatt@adam.adelaide.edu.au>
Richard Sleegers <sleeger@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Rick Ellis <rick@ofa123.fidonet.org>
Roland Kaltefleiter <kaltef@theo-physik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
Scott J. Kramer <sjk@aura.nbn.com> (())
Sean Petty <seanp@undr.org>
StarWatcher@uiuc.edu (StarWatcher)
Thomas E. Dell <dell@apple.com>
Tim Hagman (lbs) <hagman@crs.cl.msu.edu>
Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
Tony Wilson <wilson@stc.nato.int>
UB.com!grafex!steveh (Steve Harding)
ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
alexsut@panix.com (Alex Sutton)
andrew@folly.welly.gen.nz (Andrew McMillan)
andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
austin@franklin.com (Austin G. Hastings)
bagout.BELL-ATL.COM!bagate!baarsa!ddj896m
barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
biga@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Kroll)
billr@ims.com (Bill Rea)
biwi <buc29@iis.ethz.ch>
bk@kullmar.kullmar.se (Bo Kullmar)
bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
bn244@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth White)
brent@myka.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Brent J. Krawchuk)
cambler@nike.calpoly.edu (The Squire, Phish)
ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens)
chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Jacobson)
chuyen@ron6522.dloslv.xerox.com (Chuyen L. Tran)
ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson)
clout.chi.il.us!balr!vpnet!vpnet!chaz
cs8024@ee23.ncu.edu.tw
cverond@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it (Cristiano Verondini)
danj1@ihspa.att.com
david@ruc.dk (David Stodolsky)
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com
dduff@infopls.chi.il.us (Dennis Duffner)
dec@lazarus.nrtc.northrop.com
doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
duke.cs.duke.edu!wolves!news (The Wolfe of the Den)
eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
elandal@unidex.pp.fi (Ismo Peltonen)
ersys.edmonton.ab.ca!ersys!alpha3!russell (Russell Schulz)
esorkin@cellar.org
failsafe@cellar.org
fenner@jazz.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
fred@cdin-1.compu.com
fuzzface@cats.UCSC.EDU (Aaron Ross Priven)
gabe@angus.mi.org (B. Gabriel Helou)
gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
ggjns@knuth.mtsu.edu (John N Schmidt)
grayhawk.rent.com!iowegia!kevin (Kevin Houle)
harvard.harvard.edu!scubed!cruiser!bdl (Bob Lombard)
jcv26@cas.org (Jon Vander Hill)
jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu
jh@nbn.com (John Harkin)
jonc@status.gen.nz
jprovo@gnu.ai.mit.edu
karlf@bearsw.com (Karl F. Finkemeyer)
kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
kilgore@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Stan Hall)
kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (Happy Happy Joy Joy)
lefty@mtu.edu (DOUGLAS COFFMAN)
lelam%kuwait@Sun.COM (Len E. Elam)
lunatic@fringe.rain.com (Dean Woodward)
m2xenix!pacifier!lrisys!lrimark!mark
mark@legend.akron.oh.us (Mark E Daniel)
matwood%peruvian@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
mha@memory.ithaca.ny.us (Mark H. Anbinder)
mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Mike Batchelor)
mike@cherry.cray.com (Mike Carney)
mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
norman@SEAS.UCLA.EDU (Norman C. Lee)
pac@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu
parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom James Parry)
peterson@ZGNews.LoneStar.Org (Bob Peterson)
porten@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey  Porten)
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
randall@proteus.qc.ca (Randall Reid)
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au
richardc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Richard Commander)
rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld)
rob@nabob.CC.McGill.CA (Robert Macfarlane)
rogerp@amgen.com (Roger Parks)
rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (R. P. White)
scott@cellar.org
scott@truevision.com (Scott Stevens)
sorcerer@leland.Stanford.EDU
srandolp@uceng.uc.edu (Shiri Randolph)
tdboyce@cco.caltech.edu
tflamand@minman.almanac.bc.ca
toad@cellar.org
tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari)
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life?  Ha!)
tyrone@acme.gen.nz (A Real Nice User)
ulowell.ulowell.edu!pilgrim!walsh (John P. Walsh)
uu.psi.com!wisper!sherman (Peter Sherman)
uunet.UU.NET!decwrl!change!ross (Ross Miller   )
uunet.UU.NET!sdc!norm (Norm Nithman)
uunet.UU.NET!sessun!orth (John Orth)
uunet.UU.NET!smania!kbrown (Kevin W. Brown)
uunet.UU.NET!teamate!bob ()
walsh%ibis@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
walterb@sequoia.cray.com
weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
willis@equinox.unr.edu (Glee Willis)
zeta@yngbld.gwinnett.COM (Gregory S. Youngblood)
-- 
  ///   ____   \\\       |"Sorry, did I say something wrong?  Pardon me for
  | |/ /    \ \| |       | breathing, which I never do anyway so I don't even 
   \\_|\____/|_//        | know why I bother to say it oh God I'm so depressed.
       \_)\\/            | Here's another one of those self-satisfied doors.
gberigan `-' cse.unl.edu | Life... don't talk to me about life...."

 
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