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From [email protected] Sat Jan 22 17:53:55 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Chris Blaise)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: RFD: comp.bbs.tbbs
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 14 Jan 1994 22:40:13 -0500
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
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                            REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
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 NAME:                      comp.bbs.tbbs

 STATUS:                    Unmoderated

 CHARTER:

	This newsgroup will be used by The Bread Board System (TBBS)
 DOS-based bulletin board software system operators for technical help
 and support among system operators and 3rd party vendors.  Included in 
 this discussion will be anything related to TBBS, such the eSoft distributed
 option modules (QSO, TDBS, TIMS, SYSOM, Interchange, UltraChat) or 3rd
 party software (PIMP, TDBS applications).  The group will not assume any 
 specific experience level, so both the experienced and novice TBBS SysOp 
 will be welcome as well as those who may be looking into the software 
 for evaluation.  It will be a TBBS SysOp supported group with no official
 ties to eSoft Inc., the company that produces and distributes TBBS.

 RATIONALE:

	In the past several years, more and more computer bulletin boards
 have been linking to the Internet both by direct connection and/or
 e-mail/Usenet gateways.  The Bread Board System (TBBS) software allows
 for both issues of connectivity quite well through the usage of 
 terminal servers and third party packages.  With so many TBBS systems 
 joining the Internet, TBBS SysOps feel the time is right for
 a newsgroup for them to share techniques, ideas, and experiences.

 CROSSPOSTING OF RFD & CFV: 

	In addition to news.groups, the RFD will be posted to comp.bbs.misc,
alt.bbs, and the Pimp (Personal Internet Mail Processor) mailing list 
([email protected]).

 CALANDER:

   RFD Posted: Friday, January 14th, 1994	
   RFD Duration From Post Date: 27 days
   CFV Begins: February 11th, 1994
   CFV Duration: 22 days

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Feb 15 11:05:49 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: CFV: comp.bbs.tbbs
Followup-To: poster
Date: 14 Feb 1994 18:44:53 -0500
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		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		   unmoderated group comp.bbs.tbbs

Newsgroups line:
comp.bbs.tbbs		TBBS Bulletin Board Discussion.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 March 1994. 

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the PIMP mailing list <[email protected]>.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Chris Blaise <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

	This newsgroup will be used by The Bread Board System (TBBS)
DOS-based bulletin board software system operators for technical help
and support among system operators and 3rd party vendors.  Included in
this discussion will be anything related to TBBS, such the eSoft
distributed option modules (QSO, TDBS, TIMS, SYSOM, Interchange,
UltraChat) or 3rd party software (PIMP, TDBS applications).  The group
will not assume any specific experience level, so both the experienced
and novice TBBS SysOp will be welcome as well as those who may be
looking into the software for evaluation.  It will be a TBBS SysOp
supported group with no official ties to eSoft Inc., the company that
produces and distributes TBBS.

	In the past several years, more and more computer bulletin
boards have been linking to the Internet both by direct connection
and/or e-mail/Usenet gateways.  The Bread Board System (TBBS) software
allows for both issues of connectivity quite well through the usage of
terminal servers and third party packages.  With so many TBBS systems
joining the Internet, TBBS SysOps feel the time is right for a
newsgroup for them to share techniques, ideas, and experiences.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.bbs.tbbs
      I vote NO on comp.bbs.tbbs

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Feb 23 15:08:05 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.bbs.tbbs
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 22 Feb 1994 23:09:13 -0500
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Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 8 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT
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Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias)
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                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		   unmoderated group comp.bbs.tbbs

Newsgroups line:
comp.bbs.tbbs		TBBS Bulletin Board Discussion.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 March 1994. 

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the PIMP mailing list <[email protected]>.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Chris Blaise <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

	This newsgroup will be used by The Bread Board System (TBBS)
DOS-based bulletin board software system operators for technical help
and support among system operators and 3rd party vendors.  Included in
this discussion will be anything related to TBBS, such the eSoft
distributed option modules (QSO, TDBS, TIMS, SYSOM, Interchange,
UltraChat) or 3rd party software (PIMP, TDBS applications).  The group
will not assume any specific experience level, so both the experienced
and novice TBBS SysOp will be welcome as well as those who may be
looking into the software for evaluation.  It will be a TBBS SysOp
supported group with no official ties to eSoft Inc., the company that
produces and distributes TBBS.

	In the past several years, more and more computer bulletin
boards have been linking to the Internet both by direct connection
and/or e-mail/Usenet gateways.  The Bread Board System (TBBS) software
allows for both issues of connectivity quite well through the usage of
terminal servers and third party packages.  With so many TBBS systems
joining the Internet, TBBS SysOps feel the time is right for a
newsgroup for them to share techniques, ideas, and experiences.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.bbs.tbbs
      I vote NO on comp.bbs.tbbs

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



unmoderated group comp.bbs.tbbs Bounce Ack List - no need to revote
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From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Mar 10 15:13:08 1994
Sender: [email protected]
Date: 9 Mar 1994 18:06:30 -0500
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Followup-To: news.groups
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: RESULT: comp.bbs.tbbs passes 309:31
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Supersedes: <[email protected]>  
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: [email protected]
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			       RESULTS
	    unmoderated group comp.bbs.tbbs passes 309:31

There were 309 YES votes and 31 NO votes, for a total of 340 valid votes. 
There were 2 abstains and 8 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.bbs.tbbs		TBBS Bulletin Board Discussion.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 March 1994. 

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Chris Blaise <[email protected]>.


CHARTER

	This newsgroup will be used by The Bread Board System (TBBS)
DOS-based bulletin board software system operators for technical help
and support among system operators and 3rd party vendors.  Included in
this discussion will be anything related to TBBS, such the eSoft
distributed option modules (QSO, TDBS, TIMS, SYSOM, Interchange,
UltraChat) or 3rd party software (PIMP, TDBS applications).  The group
will not assume any specific experience level, so both the experienced
and novice TBBS SysOp will be welcome as well as those who may be
looking into the software for evaluation.  It will be a TBBS SysOp
supported group with no official ties to eSoft Inc., the company that
produces and distributes TBBS.

unmoderated group comp.bbs.tbbs Final Vote Ack

Votetaker Note: I noted the extensive number of votes from
ccxbbs.uunet.ve.  The individual votes are different enough that it
appears to be a last minute campaign rather than one person using
different account names.  Just for completeness, I calculated the
results without those votes.  The group would still pass 249:31.

Voted Yes
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Voted No
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[email protected]                      JESUS EUGENIO SANCHEZ PENA
[email protected]                         Stefan Antersberger
[email protected]                                              Don Bashford
[email protected]                                                Bjarne Rosengren
[email protected]                                Christian L Claiborn
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[email protected]                                                 Geoffrey Spear
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[email protected]                                                Joel Furr
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[email protected]                                          Julian Macassey
[email protected]                                          Chad Knudson
[email protected]                                 Lonadar the Wanderer
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[email protected]                                          Nathan Laredo
[email protected]                                                       Miles
[email protected]                                         Peter G. Berger
[email protected]                                    Joel Plutchak
[email protected]                                      Sendhil Revuluri
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                       Marc Moorcroft
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[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
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[email protected]                                                 Vince Skahan
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[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS


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