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Binaries (M) ( comp.binaries.ms-windows )
 
From [email protected] Fri Oct  9 13:29:33 1992
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Subject: RFD: comp.binaries.ms-windows moderated
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
----------------------

NEWSGROUP
	comp.binaries.ms-windows (moderated)

PURPOSE 
	Distribution of binaries for the Microsoft Windows environment.

RATIONALE
	While it can be argued that a vast majority of Windows software
	could be posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc, Windows postings in that
	group are relatively infrequent and drowned out by the volume of 
	MS-DOS-based software.  Meanwhile, sales of commercial Windows
	applications are about to exceed sales of MS-DOS applications for
	the first time, so the user base is there for Windows.

	A group dedicated to Windows software allows both users to find
	the type of software they are interested (Windows or MS-DOS) more
	easily, but also allows Usenet sites to be more selective should
	they not wish to carry both types.

	While there is an existing Windows-oriented FTP site (ftp.cica.-
	indiana.edu), a large proportion of net users do not have FTP
	access.  Further, even for those who do have access, it is often
	not easy to find the recent postings at cica, or to determine
	the contents of many anonymous FTP submissions.  A moderated
	binaries group would provide a controlled volume of binaries
	widely accessible to everyone at a reasonable cost.

	Finally, the Windows FAQ postings (which I maintain) are now in
	a binary WinHelp format.  While this radically improves useability,
	it does increase the size of the postings.  It is questionable
	whether the 200K FAQ postings should be regularly appear in the
	Windows discussion groups, but there is currently no appropriate
	newsgroup where it would be easy for Windows users to locate them.

CONTENT
	I propose that following types for postings should be acceptable:
	    - Windows applications (freeware and shareware)
	    - Windows device drivers
	    - Windows development tools and libraries
	    - WinHelp format FAQ postings
	
	The following items should not be accepted for posting:
	    - Copyrighted material
	    - Demos of commercial products
	
	Acceptable target platforms should include Windows 3.x, Windows NT
	(both Intel and RISC platforms), Pen Windows and Windows for Work-
	groups.

NAME
	While comp.binaries.ms-windows fits in with current usage (for
	example, comp.binaries.os2), other possibilities will be considered.

MODERATOR
	No volunteer yet -- please contact [email protected] if you are
	willing and interested in this task.

NEWSGROUP CREATION
	The discussion period will be from October 10, 1992 to October 31,
	1992.  Please post all discussion in news.groups.

	If a consensus is reached and a moderator is found by the end of
	the discussion period, a CFV (Call for Votes) will be posted at
	that time.  The voting period will last for 21 days.
-- 
[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ [email protected]                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]

From [email protected] Fri Nov 20 10:17:39 1992
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This is the official CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of a new newsgroup,
comp.binaries.ms-windows.

NAME:
	comp.binaries.ms-windows

PURPOSE:
	Distribution of applications and device drivers for the Microsoft
	Windows operating system, including Windows 3.x, Windows for Work-
	groups, Windows NT and Pen Windows.  Drivers, product patches,
	shareware, demos and binaries containing source code may be
	posted if they are, in the judgement of the moderator, beneficial
	to the audience of the newsgroup and do not appear to violate
	copyright laws.

STATUS:
	Moderated; moderator is Tin Le <[email protected]>.

VOTING PERIOD:
	Friday 20 Nov 1992 0:00 EST to Thursday 17 Dec 1992 23:59 EST.
	All votes must be received by wes.on.ca at the address below by the
	end of the voting period.

VOTING ADDRESS:
	Send your vote to either
	    [email protected]
	or
	    uunet.uu.net!wes.on.ca!vote

	You may do this by simply replying to this CFV.  Posted votes will
	not be counted.

VOTE FORMAT:
	Your vote must be explicit and clear, with no conditionals.  The
	following are examples of acceptable votes:
	    "I vote YES to comp.binaries.ms-windows"
	    "No to comp.binaries.ms-windows"
	The vote-taker will attempt to contact senders of ambiguous votes
	by email; they will also be listed in the vote acknowledgement (see
	below) as "AMBIGUOUS VOTES".

	Only the last vote from any voter is counted.

VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
	Except for ambiguous votes (see above), votes will not be acknow-
	ledged individually.  All voters will be listed in the "2nd CFV AND
	VOTE ACK", to be posted December 8, 1992.
-- 
[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ [email protected]                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]

From [email protected] Wed Dec  9 08:56:24 1992
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This is the 2nd official CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of a new newsgroup,
comp.binaries.ms-windows.  A list of valid votes received to date is appended
to the end of this message; if you voted but your name is not listed, please
attempt to send in your vote again.


NAME:
	comp.binaries.ms-windows

PURPOSE:
	Distribution of applications and device drivers for the Microsoft
	Windows operating system, including Windows 3.x, Windows for Work-
	groups, Windows NT and Pen Windows.  Drivers, product patches,
	shareware, demos and binaries containing source code may be
	posted if they are, in the judgement of the moderator, beneficial
	to the audience of the newsgroup and do not appear to violate
	copyright laws.

STATUS:
	Moderated; moderator will be Tin Le <[email protected]>.

VOTING PERIOD:
	Friday 20 Nov 1992 0:00 EST to Thursday 17 Dec 1992 23:59 EST.
	All votes must be received by wes.on.ca at the address below by the
	end of the voting period.

VOTING ADDRESS:
	Send your vote to either
	    [email protected]
	or
	    uunet.uu.net!wes.on.ca!vote

	You may do this by simply replying to this CFV.  Posted votes will
	not be counted.

VOTE FORMAT:
	Your vote must be explicit and clear, with no conditionals.  The
	following are examples of acceptable votes:
	    "I vote YES to comp.binaries.ms-windows"
	    "No to comp.binaries.ms-windows"
	The vote-taker will attempt to contact senders of ambiguous votes
	by email; they will also be listed in the vote acknowledgement (see
	below) as "AMBIGUOUS VOTES".

	Only the last vote from any voter is counted.

VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
	Except for ambiguous votes (see above), votes will not be acknow-
	ledged individually.

VALID VOTES RECEIVED TO 08 Dec 1992, 11:00 EST
	"Beryl Shults" <[email protected]>
	"Carlos Javier Fuentealba Millar" <vandi.ars.cl!cjfuente>
	"Christopher T. Loschen" <[email protected]>
	"DAVID M. KOLESAR" <[email protected]>
	"gdsmith.NL" <[email protected]>
	"Hi, I'm Hoyt. What? Hoyt. What?!?!? H-O-Y-T. Oh..." <[email protected]>
	"Matthew Grant" <ritz.equinox.gen.nz!grant_ma>
	"Michael Bower Comm. " <[email protected]>
	"Michael T. Glazier" <[email protected]>
	"Paul D. Miller" <[email protected]>
	"Thomas D. Gasser" <[email protected]>
	"Thomas Dachsel"                            <[email protected]>
	Aaron Walton <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (Arthur Davis)
	[email protected] (Andre Lehovich)
	Alan Phillips <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (ames lewallen)
	[email protected] (Bill Dixon)
	[email protected] (A.A.Buykx)
	Andrew Henry <[email protected]>
	ANDY GARDNER <kosmos.wcc.govt.nz!gardner_a>
	Andy Lipscomb <[email protected]>
	[email protected]
	[email protected] (Andy Say)
	[email protected] (Anil Srivastava)
	[email protected] (David Arasmith)
	Arne Henrik Juul <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (Audrey Helou)
	[email protected]
	[email protected] (Tim AuYeung 288-9212)
	B.J.  20-Nov-1992 1002 <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (J.D. Baldwin)
	[email protected] (Bengt Larsson)
	bioch.utas.edu.au!jmeehan (John Meehan)
	[email protected] (pri=-10-Doug Blair)
	Bob Sloane <[email protected]>
	Brett {Druid Queen} Manz <[email protected]>
	Brian 'Doc' O'Neill <[email protected]>
	Brian SPENCER <[email protected]>
	Brian Wheeler <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (Bruce Steinke)
	[email protected] (Tom Carter)
	[email protected] (Carl Rigney)
	Charles A McKenzie <[email protected]>
	Charles Shub <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (Charlie Finan)
	Chris Marble <[email protected]>
	Chris Peterson <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (Chuck Colford)
	Cliff Green <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (Mike Coleman)
	cophos.co.at!tom (Tom Duenser)
	[email protected] (Bill Crews)
	cyf-kr.edu.pl!uiprakty (Jerzy Martyna  )
	cyrcle!lothar (Bob Trembley)
	[email protected] (Dan Attaway)
	Danny Schwendener <bernina.ethz.ch!macman>
	Darryl Cross <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (David Godfrey)
	David E. Goggin <[email protected]>
	David Owen <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (D. Michael Basinger)
	[email protected] (Dave Dennis)
	Derek Law <[email protected]>
	[email protected]
	[email protected]
	[email protected] (David Seddon)
	[email protected] (Dave Edick)
	Doug Sewell <[email protected]>
	[email protected] (Greg Moore)
	[email protected]
	[email protected] (Dave Wiseman)
	[email protected] (Ean Smythe)
	[email protected] (Ed Sinamark)
	electro!carlo (Carlo Sgro)
	[email protected] (Ed McGuire)
	[email protected] (Hugo (Eric))
	[email protected] (Andreas Gawecki)
	[email protected] (Gerald Ruderman)
	[email protected] (Gerrit Visser)
	Gerry Magennis <[email protected]>
	[email protected]
	[email protected] (Jon Grantham)
	Greg Franklin <[email protected]>
	Greg Reinacker <[email protected]>
	gregoire@edx.ed.dreo.dnd.ca (Marc Gregoire)
	grether@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (ed grether)
	guenter schwaninger <schwan@rbhp59.rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de>
	guy@tara.sandiegoca.ncr.com
	harper@rigel.convex.com (David Harper)
	hart.actrix.gen.nz!graeme (Graeme Hart)
	heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby)
	hurley@spdc.ti.com (Brian Hurley)
	in@enoch.moses.iok.unit.no
	J.L. Dallaway <jld@eng.cam.ac.uk>
	James Vincent Schultz <js3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
	Jaya <vast.unsw.edu.au!jayas>
	jduncan@jupiter.nmt.edu (John Duncan)
	jeuck@unix.sri.com (Philip Jeuck)
	jh@nbn.com (John Harkin)
	jjf@dsbc.icl.co.uk (J J Farrell)
	jjwebb@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us (JJ Webb)
	John DiMarco <jdd@cdf.toronto.edu>
	John MacLerran <macljohn@ux1.isu.edu>
	johnk@teleng.telxon.com (John E. Kabat Jr.)
	jra@barracuda.wti.com (Jim Atkinson)
	jsosa@edison.encore.com
	jspencer@eyring.com (John Spencer)
	jyl@eng.sun.com (Jacob Levy)
	Kees van der Wal <J.C.vanderWal@research.ptt.nl>
	keithc@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Counsell)
	Kenneth R Aron <kra@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
	Kevin English <kevin@execu.execu.com>
	kla!anil@sun.com (Anil Somani)
	kosmos.wcc.govt.nz!harvey_a
	laine@trbilun.bitnet (Laine Stump)
	lebowitz@krypton.mankato.msus.edu (Robert J. Lebowitz)
	leveret@warren.demon.co.uk (Nick Leverton)
	lhcompt@cs.umd.edu (Lawrence H. Compton)
	Lord Yak Da Hairy <johny@cogs.sussex.ac.uk>
	lrp@rci.dk (Lars Riisboel)
	mani.kaist.ac.kr!leeks (Ki Seob Lee)
	Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
	mark@mozart.demon.co.uk (Mark Whalley)
	Markku Kaukinen <mka@lesti.hut.fi>
	Massimo Monfreda <phys.unibas.ch!monfreda>
	maths.tcd.ie!ratava
	Matthew J Dovey <co93001@ox.ac.uk>
	matwood@labhp16.cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
	mcastle@cs.umr.edu
	mhandel@sunlab.cit.cornell.edu (Mark Handel)
	mhpower@stan.mit.edu
	Michael Quinn <mjquinn%pucc.bitnet@utcs.utoronto.ca>
	mike@seb.se
	Mike_Imai@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Imai)
	milton@abyss.wa.com (Steve Milton, Sysop)
	moriarty@tc.fluke.com (Jeff Meyer)
	mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
	mreese@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Reese)
	msgpad!gabe (Gabe Helou)
	msmits@prl.philips.nl
	Nicholas J Clayton <cs92njc@brunel.ac.uk>
	Nick <paien00@dmi.usherb.ca>
	Nick Rozanski <nar@praxis.co.uk>
	nrabinow@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Nancy Rabinowitz)
	nrk@hcla.hcla.com (Nagraj Kulkarni)
	ohara@brahms.amd.com (Bob O'Hara)
	olerbrek@adh.no (Olav Lerbrekk)
	paul@moore.com (Paul Maclauchlan)
	pcunnell@micrognosis.co.uk
	pete@minster.york.ac.uk
	Peter Conkey <pbc@compsci.stirling.ac.uk>
	Peter Karrer <bernina.ethz.ch!pkarrer>
	plinton@ll.mit.edu (Paul D. Linton)
	Po Shan Cheah <ta-psc10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
	prm@aberystwyth.ac.uk
	prm@aberystwyth.ac.uk
	pshuang@athena.mit.edu
	pta00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Paul Adams)
	pwoodcoc@student.business.uwo.ca (C. Patrick Woodcock)
	ra12@morgoth.gatech.edu
	raider@tpki.toppoint.de (Martin Seeger)
	Ran Atkinson <atkinson@tengwar.itd.nrl.navy.mil>
	RAVEN Winter <raven@lclark.edu>
	rec@indetech.com (Rick Cobb)
	rengland@wv.mentorg.com (Richard England)
	Rick Ellis <rick@ofa123.fidonet.org>
	rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
	rmccown@world.std.com (Bob McCown)
	Rob Trainer <btrainer@access.digex.com>
	Robert Osterlund <spcberto@psyche.spc.uchicago.edu>
	rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
	russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
	ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
	saba@tellabs.com
	sbchanin@ai.mit.edu (Steve Chanin)
	sberger@sedona.intel.com (Scott Berger)
	scott andrew abbott <abbott@cis.ohio-state.edu>
	scott@sousa.amt.tay.dec.com (Scott Robinson)
	sessun!zink@uunet.uu.net (Ken zink)
	Seth the Lesser <slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
	sinyaw@starbright.smsc.sony.com
	sp0mikpa@edit.his.se (Mikael Parknert)
	srzts100!h_hotz@trzcl1.dnet
	srzts100!h_hotz@trzcl1.dnet
	Stefan Matthias Aust <sma@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
	Steffen Krause <skrause@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
	steimann@quando.quantum.de (Ulrich Steimann)
	Steve Gilbert (sgil@netcon.com)
	steveh@devildog.attmail.com
	stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
	syndev@genco.bungi.com (David Thomas Stewart)
	syskdg@agchem.redwater.iol.ca (Ken Gehring)
	t06@clark.edu (Torry Schreiner)
	thorp@spudge.lonestar.org (Don Thorp - Keeper of Avalon)
	tijc02!kjf388@uunet.uu.net (Ken Fisher)
	tim@dogmead.looking.on.ca (Tim Tyhurst)
	tkoppel@cassandra.cair.du.edu (Ted Koppel)
	Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@warren.mentorg.com>
	tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
	ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
	twbrown@pe-nelson.com (Tom W. Brown)
	twcaps@dante.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
	TYLER DAVID CHARLES <tylerd@rintintin.colorado.edu>
	VAARISKO@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Jouni V{{riskoski, ST A3, p.6337)
	vogon1!compnect!frackit!dave@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Dave Ratcliffe)
	waikato.ac.nz!ARRON
	warninm@instruction.cs.orst.edu (Michael Warning)
	watman@atrium1.gwinnett.com (William A. Tolhurst)
	wilcox@erc.cat.syr.edu (Maynard Wilcox)
	wilcox@swarm.wustl.edu (Don Wilcox)
	wixer!raistlin@cs.utexas.edu (Eli Boaz)
	Yaacov Fenster <fenster@taveng.enet.dec.com>
	yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au!kevinlu (Kevin Lu)
-- 
[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ tomh@wes.on.ca                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]

From tomh@wes.on.ca Wed Jan  6 21:02:29 1993
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From: tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.binaries.ms-windows passes 285:28
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As of the end of the voting period (92-12-18 23:59), 313 valid votes had
been received in response to the CFV for comp.binaries.ms-windows.

The proposal passed with a comfortable margin:
	YES:	 285	91.1 %
	NO:	  28	 8.9 %
	Margin:	 257
This easily fulfills the Guidelines' criteria for group creation.

I will accept corrections for the standard 5-day waiting period.  My
apologies to anyone whose vote was not counted.

The newgroup message will be sent out by David Lawrence on 12 January.

[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ tomh@wes.on.ca                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]

LIST OF VOTERS:
	NO: Andre Lehovich <al@cs.brown.edu>
	NO: Andy Lipscomb <LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu>
	NO: Arne Henrik Juul <arnej@kari.fm.unit.no>
	NO: Bob Sloane <SLOANE@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
	NO: Carl Rigney <cdr@kpc.com>
	NO: Charles Shub <cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu>
	NO: Danny Schwendener <bernina.ethz.ch!macman>
	NO: David E. Goggin <dt4%cs@hub.ucsb.edu>
	NO: David Reeve Sward <sward+@cmu.edu>
	NO: James Vincent Schultz <js3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
	NO: John Warburton <bnd2.bnd.oz.au!johnw>
	NO: Jonathan Monsarrat <jgm@cs.brown.edu>
	NO: Ken Fasman <ken@oscar.welch.jhu.edu>
	NO: Kevin Lu <yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au!kevinlu>
	NO: Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
	NO: Markku Kaukinen <mka@lesti.hut.fi>
	NO: mcastle@cs.umr.edu
	NO: mhpower@stan.mit.edu
	NO: Michael Vincze <mav@caess14.dseg.ti.com>
	NO: Mike Coleman <coleman@cs.ucla.edu>
	NO: Murray Nesbitt <pseudo!mjn>
	NO: Nelson Minar <nelson@reed.edu>
	NO: Paul Maclauchlan <paul@moore.com>
	NO: RAVEN Winter <raven@lclark.edu>
	NO: Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu>
	NO: Richard H. Miller <rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu>
	NO: Ted Koppel <tkoppel@cassandra.cair.du.edu>
	NO: Tom Limoncelli <tom_limoncelli@warren.mentorg.com>

	UNKNOWN: Brian 'Doc' O'Neill <oneill@bigmax.ulowell.edu>
	UNKNOWN: Ken zink <sessun!zink@uunet.uu.net>

	YES: A.A.Buykx <andreas@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl>
	YES: Aaron Walton <A.Walton@mi04p.zds.com>
	YES: aiva.lt!misha
	YES: Aki Saari <akisaari@cc.helsinki.fi>
	YES: akindele@loria.loria.fr
	YES: Alan Phillips <alan@computing.lancaster.ac.uk>
	YES: ames lewallen <alewalle@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu>
	YES: Andreas Gawecki <gawecki@dbis1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de>
	YES: Andrew Henry <A.H.Henry@gdr.bath.ac.uk>
	YES: Andrew M. Dunn <mongrel!amdunn@uunet.uu.net>
	YES: ANDY GARDNER <kosmos.wcc.govt.nz!gardner_a>
	YES: Andy Say <andys@rruxc.cc.bellcore.com>
	YES: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com
	YES: Anil Somani <kla!anil@sun.com>
	YES: Anil Srivastava <anils@research.cs.orst.edu>
	YES: Arthur Davis <adavis@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
	YES: ath@linkoping.trab.se
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