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Oberon ( comp.lang.oberon )
From [email protected] Sat Feb 13 12:44:57 1993
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From: [email protected] (Christian Schaepper)
Subject: RFD: comp.lang.oberon
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Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 19:24:28 GMT
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              R E Q U E S T   F O R   D I S C U S S I O N

This is a Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a newsgroup
for the discussion of issues regarding the Oberon language and system.



	comp.lang.oberon (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for discussion
	of all types of issues regarding the Oberon language and system.

	Due to historical reasons, topics related to Oberon are currently
	being discussed in comp.lang.modula2. Not everyone may be aware of
	this fact and thus miss the discussion related to Oberon. Further,
	readers of comp.lang.modula2 might not like the "abuse" of their
	newsgroup. The creation of comp.lang.oberon solves both problems.

	Oberon is really three things:
	- the name of a project started by Proff. N. Wirth and J. Gutknecht
	  (both at ETH Zurich) with the goal of developing a modern and
	  portable operating system for personal workstations
	- a general-purpose programming language (the successor of Modula-2)
	  with type extension as its principal new feature 
	  (The programming language Oberon-2, designed to make object
	  oriented programming easier, is a true extension of Oberon)
	- an extensible operating system, complete with a novel user
          interface and associated software tools

	The Oberon system (including the Oberon compiler) is available as
	freeware via anonymous ftp from neptune.inf.ethz.ch (
	(directory 'Oberon') for the following machines:
	IBM PC (386 or better), Macintosh II (Apple), SPARC (Sun),
	DECstation/3100 and 3500, RS/6000 (IBM)
	(You'll also find some docu (including language reports) there)

	This RFD was issued on February  1 and will last for 30 days. If
	this RFD is approved, a CFV will be issued on March 4, and
	the voting period will end at 11:59 (MET), March 25.
| Christian Schaepper, Zurich, Switzerland      [email protected] |
|                  DECnet (HEPNET/SPAN): EZINFO::SCHAEPPER (57413::SCHAEPPER) |

From [email protected] Thu Mar 11 11:33:16 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Christian Schaepper <[email protected]>
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Subject: CFV: comp.lang.oberon
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Date: 11 Mar 1993 01:25:24 -0500
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                      C A L L   F O R   V O T E S

This is a Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of comp.lang.oberon.

	A Request For Discussion (RFD) was issued on February 1.
	The name, status and charter of the new group were accepted.

	comp.lang.oberon (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for discussion
	of all types of issues regarding the Oberon language and system.

	The voting period will begin when this CFV is posted. It will 
	end at 11:59 (MET), April 1, 1993. According to the Usenet
	rules, in order for the group to be created, at least 2/3 of
	the votes cast must be YES votes, and there must be at least
	100 more YES votes than NO votes

	Votes must be sent to the following address:

		[email protected]
	You may simply "reply" to this posting. The subject line should
	be an unambigous YES or NO vote (e.g. "I vote ( YES | NO ) on
	the creation of comp.lang.oberon as proposed"). Conditional
	statements (e.g. "I would vote YES, if ...") will be considered
	as comments as will votes posted to the net instead of being
	mailed to the above address. Please include your full name if
	your mailer doesn't do this for you.

	This CFV was issued on March 11, and the voting period will
        end at 11:59 (MET), April 1, 1993.

                   Thank you for your participation!

From [email protected] Thu Apr  1 16:00:50 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Christian Schaepper <[email protected]>
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Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.oberon passes 237:17
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                             R E S U L T S

Here are the results of the CFV on the creation of the comp.lang.oberon

	votes cast:	254
	yes votes:	237 (93.3%)
	no votes:	 17 ( 6.7%)

The requirements for group creation are met and the new newsgroup can be
created after a waiting period of 5 days. During this waiting period the
net has a chance to correct any errors in the voter list appended below.

Thanks to anyone who cast a vote!

YES votes:
"A. Evers" <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Jason Smith)
Adrian Howard <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (J. Alan Eldridge)
Alexander Tuninga <[email protected]>
[email protected]
"(Andreas Garzotto)" <[email protected]>
"(Andreas Margelisch)" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Andrew McVeigh)
[email protected] (John Foster)
Barry Allebone <[email protected]>
Barry Cornelius <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ben Coleman)
Bernhard Leisch <[email protected]>
Bert Bos <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dwight Everhart)
Bill Wallace <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Andreas Borchert)
Boris Nordenstroem <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Brent Benson)
Brian Beattie <[email protected]>
Brian Excarnate <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dennis Brueni)
Cedric Didier Baechler <[email protected]>
"Cheryl Lins" <[email protected]>
"(Christoph MALLOTH)" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Claudio Nieder)
Clemens Szyperski <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected] (Yoshiyuki KONDO)
Conor O'Neill <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
[email protected] (Pat Terry)
Curlen H. Phipps <[email protected]>
[email protected]
[email protected]
David Derbes <[email protected]>
"David M. Brumley" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (David Sims)
Denisov  Andrey <[email protected]>
Dennis Michl <[email protected]>
Dirk Muysers <[email protected]>
[email protected]
Dmitry Sagatelyan <[email protected]>
[email protected] (David J. Nordstrom)
Douin Jean Michel <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Dov Grobgeld)
[email protected]
Edin Hodzic <[email protected]>
[email protected] ((Elho) ELIDRISSI)
[email protected] (Edward P Luwish)
eric blair hanneken <[email protected]>
Eric Stechmann - SP <[email protected]>
[email protected] (E. Videki)
[email protected] (Marcos J. C. Euzebio)
[email protected]
"(Fernando D. Mato Mira)" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Guenter Feldmann)
[email protected] ( dominik  latouche)
<[email protected]>
[email protected] (Astrid Frings)
[email protected] (Frode Odegard)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
[email protected] (Matthias Grabert)
"Greg (G.T.) Stovall" <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
[email protected] (Sean Case)
Guenter Dotzel <[email protected]>
[email protected] (Brian Guenter)
<[email protected]>
[email protected] (Gene Garbutt)
[email protected] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Hans Eberle <[email protected]>
Hans J. Froehlich <[email protected]>
"(Hansjakob Emch)" <[email protected]>
[email protected] (hartmut Goebel hartmut Goebel)
Hasse Haitto <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
hausutzu@chamber.in-berlin.de (Utz-Uwe Haus)
"Heberto Ghezzo" <heberto@christie.Meakins.McGill.CA>
holger@lsd.nbg.sub.org (Holger Mitterwald)
"J. Adrian Zimmer" <jazimmer@cs.UND.NoDak.Edu>
Jarmo Pussinen
jds@cs.UMD.EDU (James da Silva)
jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
"Jeffrey R. Brown" <jeffrey.r.brown@inst.medtronic.com>
jerry.bujas@itc.univie.ac.at (Jerry Bujas (gst))
jjan@cs.rug.nl (Beeblebrox)
"Joachim Michely" <michely@deliah.nemeter.dinoco.DE>
joel@pa.dec.com (Joel McCormack)
"Jon. Hallett" <J.J.Hallett@ecs.southampton.ac.uk>
Jordan Henderson <jhenders@SEI.CMU.EDU>
jordan@uniblab.aero.org (Larry M. Jordan)
Josef Templ <templ@inf.ethz.ch>
jpussi@cs.joensuu.fi (Jarmo Pussinen)
Jyrki J Wahlstedt <jwa@vipunen.hut.fi>
kardaras@ecn.purdue.edu (George S Kardaras)
katcher@netcom.com (Jeff Katcher)
"Kevin R. Coombes" <krc@wam.umd.edu>
kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel)
knapp@cs.purdue.edu (Edgar Knapp)
Kristian Butorac <butorac@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
krumke@cs.albany.edu (Sven Oliver Krumke)
ksackett@cs.uah.edu (Karl R. Sackett)
laffra@watson.ibm.com (C.Laffra)
larry@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Larry Maturo)
lchen@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Lee Li-Jen Chen)
lendecke@namu01.gwdg.de (Volker Lendecke EIFFEL)
lima!lima-3!reh@uu5.psi.com (Rich Hoffarth)
longjohn@adnovum.ch (Stefan Wengi)
lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Apostolos Lytras)
maartenb@na47sun05.cern.ch (Maarten Ballintijn)
mani@ppvku.ericsson.se (Markus Nikolopoulos)
Manuel Eduardo Correia <mcc@ciup1.ncc.up.pt>
Marc Brandis <brandis@inf.ethz.ch>
Marcel Waldvogel <marcel@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch>
Mark Skipper <mcs@de-montfort.ac.uk>
Markus Geltz <Geltz@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
martin@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Martin Hasch)
matt@amex-trs.com (The Libertarian Underground)
"Matthew (M.) Holiday" <holiday@bnr.ca>
Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>
matwood@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
Maximilian Spring <sepp@cs.tu-berlin.de>
mcintosh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (aubrey mcintosh)
mdt26@cas.org (Ming-Ding Tsao)
Michael John Haertel <mike@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu>
mikeg@psg.com (Mike Gallo)
mjl@cs.rit.edu (Michael J Lutz)
Nedorya Alexey <ned@isi.itfs.nsk.su>
neurogen@reks.uia.ac.be (Neurogenetica)
norman@bellcore.com (Norman Ramsey)
Paolo Bucci <bucci@cis.ohio-state.edu>
pareto!steffan@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Steffan)
Patrick Saladin <psaladin@iiic.ethz.ch>
Paul McRae <mcrae@gaul.csd.uwo.ca>
Paul Prescod <papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Peter Hertel <PHERTEL@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE>
peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
"pfterry" <pfterry@MSMail.kgs.ukans.edu>
pjc@luke.ATdiv.Lanl.GOV (Paul J. Channell)
psp@spectrospin.ch (Panagiotis Spiliopoulos)
pwau@alcbel.be (Patrick Wauters)
R James Noble <kjx@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Ralf Bauer <nathan@cs.tu-berlin.de>
"Ramon E. Pereda" <rpereda@cs.arizona.edu>
randy@psg.com (Randy Bush)
Ray Jackson <raj@halcyon.halcyon.com>
"Rett Bull, Pomona College" <RBULL@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Richard Hable <K3027E7@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Rick Moore <rickm@gethen.com>
Rik Watson <watson@futurs.enet.dec.com>
"R.J.D.Elias" <R.J.D.Elias@fel.tno.nl>
"(Robb Nebbe)" <nebbe@lglsun.epfl.ch>
Robert Cowell <rgc@stats.ucl.ac.uk>
rod@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (R. Harries)
Roger Vossler <vossler@csn.org>
rohm@mpimfhd.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de (Klaus Rohm)
romu@spectrospin.ch (Roger Mueller)
rose@cs.wisc.edu (Scott Rose)
rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp)
rschoen@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Reinhard Schoen)
ruess@ares.informatik.uni-ulm.de (Harald Ruess)
schauler@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Markus Schauler)
schramm@prosun.first.gmd.de (Andreas Schramm)
sclafani@netcom.com (Michael Sclafani)
sibrahim@cs.usc.edu (Shahril Ibrahim)
stanglow@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Werner Stanglow)
Stefan Esser <se@ParC02.mi.Uni-Koeln.DE>
Stefan Odendahl <sodendah@iiic.ethz.ch>
stefan@fostam.nbg.sub.org (Stefan Stammler)
"(Stelio Tzonis)" <stelio@lysis.ch>
stephan@stack.urc.tue.nl (Stephan Eggermont)
stewartg@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Stewart Gilles)
swg@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Franz Schweiggert)
T0FG000 <T0FG@unb.ca>
Thomas F. Reid <reid@vtopus.cs.vt.edu>
Thomas Ingold <tingold@iiic.ethz.ch>
"Thomas J. Herbert" <THERBERT@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU>
Thomas Wainwright <tcwain@u.washington.edu>
thutt <thutt@MAIL.CASI.NASA.GOV>
"Todd A. Proebsting" <todd@cs.arizona.edu>
Tony Sloane <tony@riker.cs.colorado.edu>
Toshinori.Maeno <tmaeno@cc.titech.ac.jp>
TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert)
uli@decum.enet.dec.com (uli@decum.enet.dec.com)
Ulrich Hoffmann <uho@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
ulrich@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Ulrich Neumerkel)
Urs Blum <ublum@iiic.ethz.ch>
vev@vevdec.cs.murdoch.edu.au (Val Veraart)
vilva@viikki21.helsinki.fi (VEIJO VILVA (KEJAL))
"(Vincent Kohler)" <kohler@di.epfl.ch>
wald@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Bernd Waldbauer)
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
walische@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Hanno Walischewski)
wbirkhol@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Detlef Birkholz)
wfugmann@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Andreas Fugmann)
whitney@christie.Meakins.McGill.CA (Whitney de Vries)
wnj@indigo.hobby.nl (Willy Jacobs)
Wolfgang Pree <wolfgang@amadeus.wustl.edu>
wrc@cs.rit.edu (Warren R Carithers)
x920031@bus072.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Jost Krieger)
yeung@cse.ogi.edu (Woodrow Yeung)

NO votes:
claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
"Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
Igor Metz <metz@iam.unibe.ch>
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens)
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce)
Peter Hermann <ph@ica.uni-stuttgart.dbp.de>
"Phil Scadden, Scadden Research" <mdlcpgs@lhn.gns.cri.nz>
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
Roland Kaltefleiter <kaltef@theo-physik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
Stephen Lau <lau@ai.sri.com>
tchannon@black.demon.co.uk (Tim Channon)
tkoppel@cassandra.cair.du.edu (Ted Koppel)
trier@slc6.INS.CWRU.Edu (Stephen C. Trier)

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