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From sam@ccnet.com Tue Jan 24 14:08:36 1995
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                     Request for Discussion (RFD)

Newsgroup       : comp.std.pascal
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the ISO/ANSI Pascal standard language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore <sam@ccnet.com>


This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of an unmoderated
newsgroup, comp.std.pascal.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation.  Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs.  The RFD is
being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups:

        news.announce.newgroups
        news.groups
        comp.lang.pascal
        comp.std.misc

CHARTER

The comp.std.pascal newsgroup will be open to discussion of the Pascal
language standards, the Pascal language as defined by those standards,
compilers conforming to the standards, and other Pascal standards related
topics.
The existing stanards for the Pascal language are as follows:

        ISO/IEC 7185 "Programming Languages - Pascal"
        ANSI/IEEE 770X3.97-1983 "American National Standard Pascal Computer
        Programming Language"
        ISO/IEC 10206:1991 "Programming Languages - Extended Pascal"
        ANSI/IEEE 770X3.160

The newsgroup will be founded on these standards, but will be open to
further standards forthcoming.

RATIONALE

The Pascal is an unusual (perhaps unique) language in that the officially
defined standards are not the basis of the most widely used variant of
the language Pascal. The only existing Pascal oriented newsgroup,
comp.lang.pascal, has, by observation, come to be dominated by traffic
based on the leading defacto standard, the Borland Pascal variant.
Since this defacto standard is not compatible with the standard
language, this leads to the need to "hunt" for traffic on the standards
and the standard language among the much greater volume of Borland
Pascal based traffic. I propose that both the users of the standard Pascal
language and the users of Borland would be better served if the
languages were separated into two groups. I further assert that because
comp.lang.pascal is overwhemingly Borland Pascal based, that having
the standard Pascal based users move elsewhere and leaving the majority
of the comp.lang.pascal users alone would only be fair.

PRECEDENT

Several groups exist to discuss the standard versions of languages,
including comp.lisp, comp.c, comp.c++.

MAILING LISTS

No known lists exist.

FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed group, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be at least
21 days.  If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO
votes, and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, it will be
created.

Scott A. Moore is sam@ccnet.com

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                     2nd Request for Discussion (RFD)

I request discussion on the proposal that the group known as:

        comp.lang.pascal

be restructured into the following groups:

        comp.lang.pascal.misc (replacing comp.lang.pascal)
        comp.lang.pascal.borland
        comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
        comp.lang.pascal.think
        comp.lang.pascal.delphi

This change is felt nessary because of the existance of mutually
incompatible versions of the language Pascal. This group split will give
the most popular versions of the language their own newsgroups, and also
create a common area for discussion of all Pascals.

The group plans follow:

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Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.misc
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of issues pertaining to all Pascal
                  versions
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about Pascal that are language
independent, conversion of one Pascal language to another, Pascal
versions that do not fit into one of the other groups, and other issues.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

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Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.borland
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Borland Pascal language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about the various implementations
of Borland Pascal, programming and programs written in that language, and
other issues. Topics that will typically be discussed here are:

        Status of the Borland Pascal language.

        Efforts to produce a manufacturer independent standard for
        Borland Pascal.

        Operating system specific applications of Borland Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of Borland Pascal.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

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Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the ISO/ANSI Pascal standard language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of all Pascal implementations based
on the ISO and ANSI Pascal standards, programs and programming in those
languages, the standards themselves, and other issues.
As discussed in the previous RFD round, it is not the intent to discuss
only standard features/functions, but ANY application of or extention
to Pascals that use the standards for a basis. I forsee these including:

        Further (upcoming) standards for Pascal, including the
        object Pascal standard.

        Operating system specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Portable GUI interfaces for standard Pascal.

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

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Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.think
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Think (macintosh) version of
                  the Pascal language.
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of the macintosh based Think Pascal,
programs and programming in that language, and other issues. Some
subjects are:

        Efforts to create a manufacturer indepenent standard for Think
        Pascal.

        Operating system specific issues with Think Pascal (esp. the
        Macintosh OS).

        Machine specific issues with Think Pascal (esp. The macintosh).

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.delphi
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Borland Delphi language
                  the Pascal language.
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve to discuss the new Pascal variant called Delphi,
including programming, programs, operation and other issues.
Envisioned are the topics:

        Operation of the Delphi toolset

        Coding in Delphi

        Relationship of Delphi to Pascal

And others.
There has been some discussion on whether Delphi properly belongs under
the pascal tree. However, Borland itself claims that the delphi language
is Pascal based. Since it is considered to be incompatible with previous
editions of Borland Pascal, I also do not consider it a candidate for
inclusion under the comp.lang.pascal.borland tree.

Mailing lists:

A mailing list has been announced for delphi. It's status is unknown at
this time.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of the above
described newsgroups, and the phase out of the group comp.lang.pascal.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation.  Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs.  The RFD is
being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups:

        news.announce.newgroups
        news.groups
        comp.lang.pascal

FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed group, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be at least
21 days.  If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO
votes, and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, then ALL the
named groups will be created, and the original group eliminated.

Scott A. Moore is sam@ccnet.com

From sam@ccnet.com Wed Mar 29 19:02:36 1995
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From: sam@ccnet.com (Scott A. Moore)
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Subject: 3rd RFD: comp.lang.pascal reorganization
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                     3rd Request for Discussion (RFD)

CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS RFD:

comp.lang.pascal.think has been changed to comp.lang.pascal.mac to
include all Pascal variants on the Macintosh.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

I request discussion on the proposal that the group known as:

        comp.lang.pascal

be restructured into the following groups:

        comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
        comp.lang.pascal.borland
        comp.lang.pascal.delphi
        comp.lang.pascal.mac
        comp.lang.pascal.misc (replacing comp.lang.pascal)

This change is felt nessary because of the existance of mutually
incompatible versions of the language Pascal. This group split will give
the most popular versions of the language their own newsgroups, and also
create a common area for discussion of all Pascals.

The group plans follow:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.misc
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of issues pertaining to all Pascal
                  versions
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about Pascal that are language
independent, conversion of one Pascal language to another, Pascal
versions that do not fit into one of the other groups, and other issues.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.borland
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Borland Pascal language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about the various implementations
of Borland Pascal, programming and programs written in that language, and
other issues. Topics that will typically be discussed here are:

        Status of the Borland Pascal language.

        Efforts to produce a manufacturer independent standard for
        Borland Pascal.

        Operating system specific applications of Borland Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of Borland Pascal.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the ISO/ANSI Pascal standard language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of all Pascal implementations based
on the ISO and ANSI Pascal standards, programs and programming in those
languages, the standards themselves, and other issues.
As discussed in the previous RFD round, it is not the intent to discuss
only standard features/functions, but ANY application of or extention
to Pascals that use the standards for a basis. I forsee these including:

        Further (upcoming) standards for Pascal, including the
        object Pascal standard.

        Operating system specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Portable GUI interfaces for standard Pascal.

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.mac
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Macintosh versions of
                  the Pascal language.
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of Macintosh based Pascals,
programs and programming in those languages, and other issues. Some
subjects are:

        Efforts to create a manufacturer indepenent standard for
        Macintosh Pascal.

        Operating system specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. the
        Macintosh OS).

        Machine specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. The macintosh).

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.delphi
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Borland Delphi language
                  the Pascal language.
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve to discuss the new Pascal variant called Delphi,
including programming, programs, operation and other issues.
Envisioned are the topics:

        Operation of the Delphi toolset

        Coding in Delphi

        Relationship of Delphi to Pascal

And others.
There has been some discussion on whether Delphi properly belongs under
the pascal tree. However, Borland itself claims that the delphi language
is Pascal based. Since it is considered to be incompatible with previous
editions of Borland Pascal, I also do not consider it a candidate for
inclusion under the comp.lang.pascal.borland tree.

Mailing lists:

A mailing list has been announced for delphi. It's status is unknown at
this time.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of the above
described newsgroups, and the phase out of the group comp.lang.pascal.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation.  Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs.  The RFD is
being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups:

        news.announce.newgroups
        news.groups
        comp.lang.pascal

FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed group, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be at least
21 days.  If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO
votes, and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, then ALL the
named groups will be created, and the original group eliminated.

Scott A. Moore is sam@ccnet.com

From sam@ccnet.com Thu Mar 30 18:58:25 1995
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From: sam@ccnet.com (Scott A. Moore)
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Subject: 3rd RFD: comp.lang.pascal reorganization
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                     3rd Request for Discussion (RFD)

CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS RFD:

comp.lang.pascal.think has been changed to comp.lang.pascal.mac to
include all Pascal variants on the Macintosh.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

I request discussion on the proposal that the group known as:

        comp.lang.pascal

be restructured into the following groups:

        comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
        comp.lang.pascal.borland
        comp.lang.pascal.delphi
        comp.lang.pascal.mac
        comp.lang.pascal.misc (replacing comp.lang.pascal)

This change is felt nessary because of the existance of mutually
incompatible versions of the language Pascal. This group split will give
the most popular versions of the language their own newsgroups, and also
create a common area for discussion of all Pascals.

The group plans follow:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.misc
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of issues pertaining to all Pascal
                  versions
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about Pascal that are language
independent, conversion of one Pascal language to another, Pascal
versions that do not fit into one of the other groups, and other issues.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.borland
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Borland Pascal language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about the various implementations
of Borland Pascal, programming and programs written in that language, and
other issues. Topics that will typically be discussed here are:

        Status of the Borland Pascal language.

        Efforts to produce a manufacturer independent standard for
        Borland Pascal.

        Operating system specific applications of Borland Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of Borland Pascal.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the ISO/ANSI Pascal standard language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of all Pascal implementations based
on the ISO and ANSI Pascal standards, programs and programming in those
languages, the standards themselves, and other issues.
As discussed in the previous RFD round, it is not the intent to discuss
only standard features/functions, but ANY application of or extention
to Pascals that use the standards for a basis. I forsee these including:

        Further (upcoming) standards for Pascal, including the
        object Pascal standard.

        Operating system specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Portable GUI interfaces for standard Pascal.

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.mac
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Macintosh versions of
                  the Pascal language.
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of Macintosh based Pascals,
programs and programming in those languages, and other issues. Some
subjects are:

        Efforts to create a manufacturer indepenent standard for
        Macintosh Pascal.

        Operating system specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. the
        Macintosh OS).

        Machine specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. The macintosh).

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.delphi
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Borland Delphi language
                  the Pascal language.
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve to discuss the new Pascal variant called Delphi,
including programming, programs, operation and other issues.
Envisioned are the topics:

        Operation of the Delphi toolset

        Coding in Delphi

        Relationship of Delphi to Pascal

And others.
There has been some discussion on whether Delphi properly belongs under
the pascal tree. However, Borland itself claims that the delphi language
is Pascal based. Since it is considered to be incompatible with previous
editions of Borland Pascal, I also do not consider it a candidate for
inclusion under the comp.lang.pascal.borland tree.

Mailing lists:

A mailing list has been announced for delphi. It's status is unknown at
this time.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of the above
described newsgroups, and the phase out of the group comp.lang.pascal.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation.  Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs.  The RFD is
being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups:

        news.announce.newgroups
        news.groups
        comp.lang.pascal

FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed group, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be at least
21 days.  If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO
votes, and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, then ALL the
named groups will be created, and the original group eliminated.

Scott A. Moore is sam@ccnet.com

From sam@ccnet.com Mon May  1 18:20:22 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: sam@ccnet.com (Scott A. Moore)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: 4th RFD: comp.lang.pascal reorganization
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
             unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
              unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.borland
                unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.mac
  unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.misc replaces comp.lang.pascal

Proponents note: This 4th RFD is identical to the 3rd except for the
removal of the group for Delphi. During extensive discussions, we have
decided to field that as a separate RFD, for what is likely to be
a separate group (not in the comp.lang.pascal.* tree).  Please look
for that RFD in reference to the Delphi group issue.

If it happens that this proposal passes before the Delphi group does,
we would welcome Delphi participation in the new comp.lang.pascal.misc
group as an interim group for the final Delphi group.

=======================================================================

This change is felt nessary because of the existance of mutually
incompatible versions of the language Pascal. This group split will give
the most popular versions of the language their own newsgroups, and also
create a common area for discussion of all Pascals.

The group plans follow:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.misc
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of issues pertaining to all Pascal
                  versions
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about Pascal that are language
independent, conversion of one Pascal language to another, Pascal
versions that do not fit into one of the other groups, and other issues.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.borland
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Borland Pascal language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions about the various implementations
of Borland Pascal, programming and programs written in that language, and
other issues. Topics that will typically be discussed here are:

        Status of the Borland Pascal language.

        Efforts to produce a manufacturer independent standard for
        Borland Pascal.

        Operating system specific applications of Borland Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of Borland Pascal.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the ISO/ANSI Pascal standard language
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of all Pascal implementations based
on the ISO and ANSI Pascal standards, programs and programming in those
languages, the standards themselves, and other issues.
As discussed in the previous RFD round, it is not the intent to discuss
only standard features/functions, but ANY application of or extention
to Pascals that use the standards for a basis. I forsee these including:

        Further (upcoming) standards for Pascal, including the
        object Pascal standard.

        Operating system specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Portable GUI interfaces for standard Pascal.

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroup       : comp.lang.pascal.mac
Status          : unmoderated
Distribution    : Worldwide
Summary         : For discussion of the Macintosh versions of
                  the Pascal language.
Proponent       : Scott A. Moore (sam@ccnet.com)

Charter:

This group will serve for discussions of the macintosh based Think Pascal,
Apple Pascal, Codewarrior Pascal and other Macintosh Pascals,
programs and programming in that language, and other issues. Some
subjects are:

        Efforts to create a manufacturer indepenent standard for
        Macintosh Pascal.

        Operating system specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. the
        Macintosh OS).

        Machine specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. The macintosh).

And others.

Mailing lists:

No known mailing lists exist

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of the above
described newsgroups, and the phase out of the group comp.lang.pascal.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation.  Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs.  The RFD is
being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups:

        news.announce.newgroups
        news.groups
        comp.lang.pascal

FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed group, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be at least
21 days.  If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO
votes, and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, then ALL the
named groups will be created, and the original group eliminated.

==========================================================================

Proponent's note: This RFD is eligible one week (5 days) after being
posted, due to it's status as a modification to an original RFD.

==========================================================================

Scott A. Moore is sam@ccnet.com

From warren@syra.net Mon May 15 18:18:43 1995
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
                  unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.borland
                    unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.mac
     unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.misc (replaces comp.lang.pascal)

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.pascal.misc	Pascal in general and ungrouped Pascals.
comp.lang.pascal.borland	Borland's Pascal.
comp.lang.pascal.mac	Macintosh based Pascals.
comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso	Pascal according to ANSI and ISO standards.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <warren@Syra.NET>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Scott A. Moore <sam@ccnet.com>.

DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross posted to comp.lang.pascal.

CHARTER

comp.lang.pascal.misc
This group will serve for discussions about Pascal that are language
independent, conversion of one Pascal language to another, Pascal
versions that do not fit into one of the other groups, and other issues.

comp.lang.pascal.borland
This group will serve for discussions about the various implementations
of Borland Pascal, programming and programs written in that language, and
other issues. Topics that will typically be discussed here are:

        Status of the Borland Pascal language.

        Efforts to produce a manufacturer independent standard for
        Borland Pascal.

        Operating system specific applications of Borland Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of Borland Pascal.

comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
This group will serve for discussions of all Pascal implementations based
on the ISO and ANSI Pascal standards, programs and programming in those
languages, the standards themselves, and other issues.
As discussed in the previous RFD round, it is not the intent to discuss
only standard features/functions, but ANY application of or extention
to Pascals that use the standards for a basis. I forsee these including:

        Further (upcoming) standards for Pascal, including the
        object Pascal standard.

        Operating system specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Portable GUI interfaces for standard Pascal.

And others.

comp.lang.pascal.mac
This group will serve for discussions of the macintosh based Think
Pascal, Apple Pascal, Codewarrior Pascal and other Macintosh Pascals,
programs and programming in that language, and other issues. Some
subjects are:

        Efforts to create a manufacturer indepenent standard for
        Macintosh Pascal.

        Operating system specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. the
        Macintosh OS).

        Machine specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. The
        macintosh).

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From dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca Tue May 16 19:37:00 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.pascal,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.controls,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.databases.paradox,comp.databases.xbase.misc
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.lang.pascal.delphi.{components,databases,misc}
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                   2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
         unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.delphi.databases
         unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.delphi.components
            unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.delphi.misc

This is a 2nd formal Request For Discussion (RFD) about the creation
of several newsgroups relating to Borland's Delphi rapid application
development system.  The first RFD used the names
comp.soft-sys.app-builder.delphi.*; this proposal changes the base of
the newsgroup names to comp.lang.pascal.delphi.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for
Newsgroup Creation.  This RFD will be cross-posted to the following
relevant newsgroups:

    news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.lang.pascal,
    comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.controls,
    comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools, comp.databases.paradox,
    comp.databases.xbase.misc

Discussion of this proposal should take place in news.groups.

RATIONALE

1.  Placement of hierarchy

During the comp.lang.pascal reorganization and the Delphi discussion
there has been extensive discussion of the appropriate place for
Delphi in the Usenet hierarchy.  There were 4 main proposals for the
placement:

  Comp.lang.delphi

This group was initially the most popular.  However, the programming
language underlying Delphi is called Object Pascal rather than
Delphi, and it is not different enough from Pascal to warrant
creation of a separate comp.lang newsgroup.

  Comp.lang.pascal.delphi

This group was initially second most popular, and later became the
most popular choice.  If Delphi is placed in the comp.lang hierarchy,
it seems the most natural place.  However,

  - it downplays the database aspects of Delphi
  - it moves Delphi away from the related packages PowerBuilder and
  Uniface.

  Comp.soft-sys.delphi

Much of Delphi is not really a "language" at all; the VCL library
with its database support and the visual design environment are
valuable parts of the package, suggesting that comp.soft-sys is an
appropriate place. This proposal received very little support.

  Comp.soft-sys.app-builder.delphi

The comp.soft-sys hierarchy contains a number of unrelated software
packages, and there has been a recent effort to organize these into
subgroups by topic (e.g. c.s.math.mathematica,
c.s.multimedia.cu-seeme.*, and the c.s.app-builder.uniface
proposal).

Within comp.soft-sys, Delphi is most closely related to Uniface,
another application development product, and would belong as a
sibling of it in the app-builder subgroup.

This name was proposed in the 1st RFD, and received some support,
though not nearly as much as c.l.p.d.  On the negative side, it was
pointed out that:

  - it may cause confusion with the Novell Visual
AppBuilder product (which performs a function similar to Delphi)
  - it downplays the Pascal language aspect of Delphi, and may lead
to numerous incorrect posts to the c.l.p groups
  - it violates the precedent of placement in the comp.lang
hierarchy set by Visual Basic, the closest existing package to
Delphi


In my judgment, the two names c.l.p.d and c.s.a.d are clearly better
than the other choices.  Neither is perfect, but I would judge their
flaws to be roughly equal.  However, c.l.p.d has been much more
popular than c.s.a.d in the Delphi discussion, and so I have changed
the proposal.

2.  Choice of subgroups

There is no change to the subgroups from the original proposal:

The current volume of postings in comp.lang.pascal suggests that
about 3 newsgroups would have a reasonable amount of traffic.  The
choice of "databases", "components" and "misc" represents my judgment
of a clear delineation of topics.  The databases and misc subgroups
will likely have similar high traffic rates.  The components group
will probably be more technical and lower volume.

In the future, new subgroups separating local database issues from
client-server issues, and separating language from VCL from IDE
usage issues might be appropriate, if traffic warrants.  A moderated
group for new product announcements may also prove to be desirable.

CHARTERS (AND CONTEXT)

Delphi is Borland's recently released rapid application development
system for MS Windows.  It consists of a compiler for a version of
Object Pascal descended from Borland's Pascal compilers, a
user-interface and database access library called VCL, and a
development environment allowing for components to be dropped from a
palette into an application.  Components may also be written in
Delphi and installed into the environment.

Since the release of Delphi, most Usenet discussion of it has taken
place in comp.lang.pascal, raising the volume of postings there from
70/day to 200/day.


************************************************************************
* Group 1: comp.lang.pascal.delphi.databases

This group would be for discussions related to using the database
aspects of Delphi.  Discussions of Database Desktop and Reportsmith
would belong here, as would discussions of the database aspects of
VCL, client-server issues, and most other things relating to
databases.

************************************************************************
* Group 2: comp.lang.pascal.delphi.components

This group would be for discussion specific to writing components in
Delphi.  Discussions of details of VCL pertinent to creating new
components, how to write VBXs, and other issues of component design
would be on topic here.  Discussions about creating database
components would probably be more appropriate here than in the
c.s.a.d.databases group.  Discussions about how to use components
would belong in c.s.a.d.misc.

************************************************************************
* Group 3: comp.lang.pascal.delphi.misc

This would be the catch-all discussion group not dealing with the
specific technical issues covered in the other groups.  The name
"misc" was chosen to be in line with current newsgroup name
conventions.

Discussions of how to use the IDE and help system, how to install
components including VBXs, how to use VCL and Object Pascal (except
database specific issues), how to port code from other languages to
Delphi, how to create DLLs, bugs and workarounds in VCL,
announcements of new products, general help in getting started,
where to find ftp and www sites regarding Delphi, etc. would all be
on topic here.



WHAT'S NEXT

    Seven days after this RFD is posted, if there are not overwhelming
    objections to any of the proposed groups, there will be a Call For
    Votes (CFV) posted to the groups as this RFD has been. The voting
    period will be 22 days. Each group that passes, by receiving 100
    more YES votes than NO votes *and* twice as many YES votes as NO
    votes, will be created.

From warren@syra.net Mon May 29 22:35:11 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: warren@syra.net (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.pascal reorganization
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
                  unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.borland
                    unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.mac
     unmoderated group comp.lang.pascal.misc (replaces comp.lang.pascal)

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.pascal.misc	Pascal in general and ungrouped Pascals.
comp.lang.pascal.borland	Borland's Pascal.
comp.lang.pascal.mac	Macintosh based Pascals.
comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso	Pascal according to ANSI and ISO standards.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <warren@Syra.NET>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Scott A. Moore <sam@ccnet.com>.

DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross posted to comp.lang.pascal.

CHARTER

comp.lang.pascal.misc
This group will serve for discussions about Pascal that are language
independent, conversion of one Pascal language to another, Pascal
versions that do not fit into one of the other groups, and other issues.

comp.lang.pascal.borland
This group will serve for discussions about the various implementations
of Borland Pascal, programming and programs written in that language, and
other issues. Topics that will typically be discussed here are:

        Status of the Borland Pascal language.

        Efforts to produce a manufacturer independent standard for
        Borland Pascal.

        Operating system specific applications of Borland Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of Borland Pascal.

comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
This group will serve for discussions of all Pascal implementations based
on the ISO and ANSI Pascal standards, programs and programming in those
languages, the standards themselves, and other issues.
As discussed in the previous RFD round, it is not the intent to discuss
only standard features/functions, but ANY application of or extention
to Pascals that use the standards for a basis. I forsee these including:

        Further (upcoming) standards for Pascal, including the
        object Pascal standard.

        Operating system specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Portable GUI interfaces for standard Pascal.

And others.

comp.lang.pascal.mac
This group will serve for discussions of the macintosh based Think
Pascal, Apple Pascal, Codewarrior Pascal and other Macintosh Pascals,
programs and programming in that language, and other issues. Some
subjects are:

        Efforts to create a manufacturer indepenent standard for
        Macintosh Pascal.

        Operating system specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. the
        Macintosh OS).

        Machine specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. The
        macintosh).

HOW TO VOTE
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list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From warren@syra.net Tue Jun  6 18:46:55 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: warren@syra.net (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.pascal reorganization all groups pass
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                                RESULT
              comp.lang.pascal results - 441 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 368   47 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.lang.pascal.misc (replaces comp.lang.pascal)
 356   46 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.lang.pascal.borland
 370   42 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.lang.pascal.mac
 329   63 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
   3 invalid votes

  comp.lang.pascal.misc (replaces comp.lang.pascal)
	passed on Wed May 17 14:39:06 1995
  comp.lang.pascal.borland passed on Wed May 17 14:21:50 1995
  comp.lang.pascal.mac passed on Wed May 17 12:00:51 1995
  comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso passed on Thu May 18 05:02:25 1995

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and
NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.pascal.misc	Pascal in general and ungrouped Pascals.
comp.lang.pascal.borland	Borland's Pascal.
comp.lang.pascal.mac	Macintosh based Pascals.
comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso	Pascal according to ANSI and ISO standards.

This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <warren@Syra.NET>. For questions
about the proposed group contact Scott A. Moore <sam@ccnet.com>.

CHARTER

comp.lang.pascal.misc
This group will serve for discussions about Pascal that are language
independent, conversion of one Pascal language to another, Pascal
versions that do not fit into one of the other groups, and other issues.

comp.lang.pascal.borland
This group will serve for discussions about the various implementations
of Borland Pascal, programming and programs written in that language, and
other issues. Topics that will typically be discussed here are:

        Status of the Borland Pascal language.

        Efforts to produce a manufacturer independent standard for
        Borland Pascal.

        Operating system specific applications of Borland Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of Borland Pascal.

comp.lang.pascal.ansi-iso
This group will serve for discussions of all Pascal implementations based
on the ISO and ANSI Pascal standards, programs and programming in those
languages, the standards themselves, and other issues.
As discussed in the previous RFD round, it is not the intent to discuss
only standard features/functions, but ANY application of or extention
to Pascals that use the standards for a basis. I forsee these including:

        Further (upcoming) standards for Pascal, including the
        object Pascal standard.

        Operating system specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Machine specific applications of standard Pascal.

        Portable GUI interfaces for standard Pascal.

And others.

comp.lang.pascal.mac
This group will serve for discussions of the macintosh based Think
Pascal, Apple Pascal, Codewarrior Pascal and other Macintosh Pascals,
programs and programming in that language, and other issues. Some
subjects are:

        Efforts to create a manufacturer indepenent standard for
        Macintosh Pascal.

        Operating system specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. the
        Macintosh OS).

        Machine specific issues with Macintosh Pascals (esp. The
        macintosh).


[This collection of addresses is (C)1995 by Consultix Computer Services.
Permission is strictly NOT given to use this list or any part thereof to
make a mailing list, or for mass-mailings.  Any other use is fine.]
comp.lang.pascal Final Vote Ack


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tsikes@netcom.com                                             Terry Sikes YYYY
twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu                                   Tim Pierce YNNN
ub359@freenet.victoria.bc.ca                               Brent D. Beach YYYY
VictorF8@aol.com                Victor Maurice Faubert (victorf8@aol.com) YYYY
villalon@crl.com                                           Craig Villalon YYYY
voting@Syra.NET                                           Fabrizio Oddone Y-Y-
wang@wsm.pl.my                                             Wang Sang Meng NNNN
Warren_R._Volz@capmac.org                                     Warren Volz NNYY
wayne@helix.nih.gov                                         Wayne Rasband YYYN
wdecker@csc.com                                            William Decker YYYY
wgalazka@chem.uw.edu.pl                                  Wojciech Galazka YYYY
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi                                    Risto Widenius NNNN
wiml@netcom.com                                                   W Lewis N---
WISANR@hartwick.edu                                            Dick Wisan YYYN
wuttke@stein.teuto.de                                     Matthias Wuttke YYNY
wyatt@wyatt.com                         David W. Shortt <wyatt@wyatt.com> YYYN
yadav@c17m.mdc.com                                         Yadav, Avinash Y-Y-
yeung@reed.edu                                              Woodrow Yeung YYYY
yeungw@lclark.edu                                             Wendy Yeung YYYY
zeta@skypoint.com                                   Gregory S. Youngblood YYYN


Votes in error
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94908210@cpccux0.cityu.edu.hk
   ! No name given
A139CCR@SEMOVM.SEMO.EDU                                        Patrick Voelker
   ! No vote statement in message
bhorton@aries.dpi.tas.gov.au
   ! No name given

 
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